FabSwingers.com forum: Have you Always voted the same?Will you now change?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lifetime green voter but might vote tactically and vote Lib Dem’s next election to oust the Tory in my neck of the woods.The Lib Dem’s seem to have momentum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern? "

Never voted for one party out of blind faith over and over again but different ones depending on what their manifesto states.

Traditionally been Tory but have deviated a few times and I'll probably be deviating again at the next GE.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern? "

My parents voted Conservative.

I vote Labour and SNP.

My kids vote SNP.

I can say for certain who I will NOT vote for, and that is any permutation of UKIP, Brexit Party, Conservative, Britain First, BNP etc.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Lifetime green voter but might vote tactically and vote Lib Dem’s next election to oust the Tory in my neck of the woods.The Lib Dem’s seem to have momentum."

I see the Lib Dems are to stand on a policy of outright revocation of Article 50.

I suspect it's a bargaining chip for coalition talks, but interesting development to effectively declare the referendum null and void.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

I grew up in an active Conservative household, I used to be a staunch conservative (small c). But during my military service I came to realise the Thatcher changed Conservatism from a centre right, one nation party, to an ever increasingly right wing pro business anti worker, anti welfare party that was only interested in promoting the interests of the most wealthy. So I changed allegiance to Labour as to me they represented the best hope for defeating the Nasty Party. After the Labour purge of the late 80's and the rise of the Blairites I moved to the Greens as I realised that Labour had become nothing more than ToryLite. Then when JC became the leader of Labour and reversed the lurch to the right of the Labour Party I returned to Labour as they now come closest to reflecting my political views and have the best chance to remove the Tories from power.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i suppose i grew up in a lib dem household.... but have in the past voted labour and green.....

i think i am more likely to vote lib dem next time.. they have won me back....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm flexible and vote for the benefit of the country. Almost certainly never to include a connection with Farage.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I’m suffering from total apathy.

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract

Grew up in labour supporting household

Have never voted labour since Blair and could never vote Lib Dem’s or greens

Will vote Brexit Party next GE to get rid of our 2 faced MP Yvette Cooper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Grew up in labour supporting household

Have never voted labour since Blair and could never vote Lib Dem’s or greens

Will vote Brexit Party next GE to get rid of our 2 faced MP Yvette Cooper"

Wasted vote then

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract

"Grew up in labour supporting household

Have never voted labour since Blair and could never vote Lib Dem’s or greens

Will vote Brexit Party next GE to get rid of our 2 faced MP Yvette Cooper

Wasted vote then

My choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always voted Conservative. I would vote labour now but Corbyn is too extreme. So will vote LibDem next time..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Grew up in labour supporting household

Have never voted labour since Blair and could never vote Lib Dem’s or greens

Will vote Brexit Party next GE to get rid of our 2 faced MP Yvette Cooper

Wasted vote then

My choice"

Of course . Wasted vote then

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. "
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I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader."

I agree. If (and they probably will) labour lose the next GE I think Milliband would be the perfect leader of the Labour Party .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader.

I agree. If (and they probably will) labour lose the next GE I think Milliband would be the perfect leader of the Labour Party . "
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Another Blairite!.

That should go down well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader.

I agree. If (and they probably will) labour lose the next GE I think Milliband would be the perfect leader of the Labour Party . "

I prefer kier Starmer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Labour need to regain some centre ground. The current management is a losing ticket.

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By *shrop_cpleCouple
over a year ago

Ceredigion

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader."

Of course, we are being 'told' (ask by whom) from all quarters that the Labour Party is anti-semitic.

. So how could they have ANOTHER Milliband... Unless of course (as I believe) they are not indeed anti-semitic, and merely seek to oppose the behaviour of the rogue state of Isr@el and NOT world jewry as a whole. Anti-Zionism is NOT anti-semitism.

But to return to the thread...

One has to vote for the party one believes will do right by the country as a whole at the time. I started by voting for Maggie in'79, but could latterly retch at the thought of voting tory again. After a 'Red Rose' period, saw through 'Bliars' 'Torylite' and was delighted when Labour embraced a socialist again. Enviromental concerns then made me vote Green but I could not now support a party seeking to overturn the referendum result. That vote means everything and should be honoured or our democracy (or belief in it) will never recover.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader.

I agree. If (and they probably will) labour lose the next GE I think Milliband would be the perfect leader of the Labour Party .

I prefer kier Starmer."

He is very impressive .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern? "

Never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im from a Labour background

I will always vote Labour

Why ?

Because the Conservative party will only ever be for those who want tax cuts for the rich & to never give the breaks to the working classes.

If i earned a million quid id have no problem being taxed at a much higher rate.

Id be grateful i wasnt deciding if i can feed my kids , put petrol in my car or can i go & see my footie team play .

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

No started as Liberal but stopped when they became Lib Dems,then tory then labour now tory.Believe that the current labour party is total dangerous communist scum.

They aim to destroy the country and turn it into a communist dictatorship but many have not grasped this yet.

They are no different to the Nazis in Germany,who sneaked into authoritarian power.We must destroy them

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

Is that why Thatcher championed the single market?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Im from a Labour background

I will always vote Labour

Why ?

Because the Conservative party will only ever be for those who want tax cuts for the rich & to never give the breaks to the working classes.

If i earned a million quid id have no problem being taxed at a much higher rate.

Id be grateful i wasnt deciding if i can feed my kids , put petrol in my car or can i go & see my footie team play .

How do you think you earn a million quid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No started as Liberal but stopped when they became Lib Dems,then tory then labour now tory.Believe that the current labour party is total dangerous communist scum.

They aim to destroy the country and turn it into a communist dictatorship but many have not grasped this yet.

They are no different to the Nazis in Germany,who sneaked into authoritarian power.We must destroy them"

To be honest I think you will find as many parallels between what BoJo is doing a what happened during the rise to power of the nazis. The tories are trying to hold their party together by swinging to the right as they know they are under existential threat from UKIP and that devil Farage - he truly is a fascist and Hitlers heir apparent

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern? "

I (male) vary between Labour and Lib Dem.

Have never and will almost certainly never vote Conservative.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No started as Liberal but stopped when they became Lib Dems,then tory then labour now tory.Believe that the current labour party is total dangerous communist scum.

They aim to destroy the country and turn it into a communist dictatorship but many have not grasped this yet.

They are no different to the Nazis in Germany,who sneaked into authoritarian power.We must destroy them"

, I suggest you watch the BBC documentary on the Nazis, it will prove how wrong and pathetic that statement is

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot

"Grew up in labour supporting household

Have never voted labour since Blair and could never vote Lib Dem’s or greens

Will vote Brexit Party next GE to get rid of our 2 faced MP Yvette Cooper

Wasted vote then

My choice"

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By *arkndirtyMan
over a year ago

sale

As NHS can't imagine voting for any party adocating even more fragmentation through privatisation. Veering between labour or lib dem. Not JC fan as he gets very wishy washy when you need a strong voice e.g. referendum or Salisbury Russians. Good to see dirth of raging right wingers in swinger land.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used to vote labour have voted snp for over 20yrs now all family and friends are the same i actually dont know anyone who votes labour or tory and long may that continue

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By *teveNW81Man
over a year ago

wigan

"Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern? "

My Grandad was a Tory, something i would never consider being.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

They aim to destroy the country and turn it into a communist dictatorship but many have not grasped this yet.

They are no different to the Nazis in Germany,who sneaked into authoritarian power.We must destroy them"

This would be hilarious in its stupidity if it wasn't also a scary example of the current right wing mindset.

Absolutely divorced from reality. Corbyn wanting to give a bit more power to workers and to nationalise the railways = communists/Nazis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As NHS can't imagine voting for any party adocating even more fragmentation through privatisation. Veering between labour or lib dem. Not JC fan as he gets very wishy washy when you need a strong voice e.g. referendum or Salisbury Russians. Good to see dirth of raging right wingers in swinger land. "

Vote Lib Dem and they might prop up the tories irrespective of what they say in public about Brexit.

Remember Clegg and no student cuts. Vote green?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Going are the days when you voted 'X' because your grandad did ..

With the current mess will you now consider voting against your traditional pattern?

I (male) vary between Labour and Lib Dem.

Have never and will almost certainly never vote Conservative.

“Almost certainly never”... a smidging of doubt then. What situation are you thinking might want to vote conservative

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"No started as Liberal but stopped when they became Lib Dems,then tory then labour now tory.Believe that the current labour party is total dangerous communist scum.

They aim to destroy the country and turn it into a communist dictatorship but many have not grasped this yet.

They are no different to the Nazis in Germany,who sneaked into authoritarian power.We must destroy them

, I suggest you watch the BBC documentary on the Nazis, it will prove how wrong and pathetic that statement is

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I watched it

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

My mum voted Conservative and so do I and my sister. My dad has never voted.

I once voted for lib dems in 1997 when John Major was prime minister. I regretted that ever since because that gave Tony Blair the power.

I honestly don't know who I would vote for now. Apart from the Heath and Gallahan governments in the 1970's I believe that the current tory governments since 2010 have been the worst in my lifetime. All they have done is torn this country apart with a referendum which had no planning as to what might happen after.

Could Jeremy Corbin be any worse? I hate to say it but I can't think how he could be.

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By *lashnannieCouple
over a year ago

Dundee

Always amazed when people call Corbyn extreme, considering how extreme our right wing politics have become. Not a fan of Bojo or Corbyn as I believe both are being worked by their party committees. Will vote SNP again, best chance for independence yet.

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley

"I grew up in an active Conservative household, I used to be a staunch conservative (small c). But during my military service I came to realise the Thatcher changed Conservatism from a centre right, one nation party, to an ever increasingly right wing pro business anti worker, anti welfare party that was only interested in promoting the interests of the most wealthy. So I changed allegiance to Labour as to me they represented the best hope for defeating the Nasty Party. After the Labour purge of the late 80's and the rise of the Blairites I moved to the Greens as I realised that Labour had become nothing more than ToryLite. Then when JC became the leader of Labour and reversed the lurch to the right of the Labour Party I returned to Labour as they now come closest to reflecting my political views and have the best chance to remove the Tories from power."

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader.

I agree. If (and they probably will) labour lose the next GE I think Milliband would be the perfect leader of the Labour Party . .

Another Blairite!.

That should go down well

The Labour Party, like most political parties, a broad based coalition. It should be able to function with Blairites and Corbyniistas working together. David Miliband is closer to Corbyn than he is to Johnson, or even someone seen as a tory moderate like Amber Rudd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no loyalty to any political party. Policy first followed by the leader, that's generally how I figure out where to place my mark.

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley

As for the original question, I vote with my brain, and it says Labour. I prefer to have well funded public services for the benefit of the whole of society thank you very much. I want the vulnerable in society to be looked after. I want my rights as a worker to be protected not undermined.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

"As for the original question, I vote with my brain, and it says Labour. I prefer to have well funded public services for the benefit of the whole of society thank you very much. I want the vulnerable in society to be looked after. I want my rights as a worker to be protected not undermined. "

That equates to higher taxes, more expensive products to pay for those services and workers rights. So generally you would be worse off, unless you can think of areas where there should be less public spending.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley

If we have a progressive tax system then those who earn most pay proportionally more. Close tax loop holes, why can Starbucks and Amazon get away with paying virtually no corporation tax? Chase tax dodgers. HMRC have had their revenue teams cut and what a surprise, most estimates are that tax dodging has increased as people can get away with it.

I would happily pay more for properly funded services as we all lose out (presuming you aren’t earning super bucks) including me, when services are cut. Poverty increases, police numbers are cut, crime goes up, my insurance premiums go up and quality of life goes down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im from a Labour background

I will always vote Labour

Why ?

Because the Conservative party will only ever be for those who want tax cuts for the rich & to never give the breaks to the working classes.

If i earned a million quid id have no problem being taxed at a much higher rate.

Id be grateful i wasnt deciding if i can feed my kids , put petrol in my car or can i go & see my footie team play .

How do you think you earn a million quid?

Ive done it twice

1st time was through a chance meeting a good idea hard work & a fair slice of luck .

My accountant saved me a pile of tax , so i made up the balance .

Gave £150 k to my local hospital

By buying specialist kit for them

& a couple of other 6 figures sums to 2 causes close to my heart.

The 2nd time i got humped for not having earnt enough to pay my tax fully for the previous 3 years.

As for others & there millions

Its up to them , i only do what i think helps my mind be settled .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Predictions for a low turn out next Gen Election.I dont think so ,think it'll be a very high turnout...protest vote could see Liberals(remain) in a coilition with Brexit party( leave)..so back to stalemate...The monster raving loony party now seeming most sensible party... oh dear

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"No started as Liberal but stopped when they became Lib Dems,then tory then labour now tory.Believe that the current labour party is total dangerous communist scum.

They aim to destroy the country and turn it into a communist dictatorship but many have not grasped this yet.

They are no different to the Nazis in Germany,who sneaked into authoritarian power.We must destroy them"

Forum Gold.

Evidence of a parallel universe is discovered

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Grew up in labour supporting household

Have never voted labour since Blair and could never vote Lib Dem’s or greens

Will vote Brexit Party next GE to get rid of our 2 faced MP Yvette Cooper

Wasted vote then

My choice"

2 faced? Can you elaborate?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

havent voted ssince the mid ninties and aint changing that any time soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

same path as me except i grew up in a labour house and area. Will vote labour in next GE

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By *hebritukCouple
over a year ago

London

"Im going to find it pretty tricky to continue to support labour, under this leadership. ..

I would not be shocked if David Millband was a future leader.

I agree. If (and they probably will) labour lose the next GE I think Milliband would be the perfect leader of the Labour Party . "

If we don’t get a change from the current mob, there won’t be much left to govern! Well Hung parliament me thinks. Pun in there somewhere?

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By *p kingMan
over a year ago

Law

Tbh I'm sick of hearing about referendums Brexit and Scottish Independence. I want the 31st of October to come and go so we can get on with things and get some form of normality back

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Tbh I'm sick of hearing about referendums Brexit and Scottish Independence. I want the 31st of October to come and go so we can get on with things and get some form of normality back "

October 31 is the end of the beginning.

Nov 1 is when the fun starts.

It will run and run for years and years.

The idea this will be over . . . er, no.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Gave £150 k to my local hospital

By buying specialist kit for them

& a couple of other 6 figures sums to 2 causes close to my heart.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Tbh I'm sick of hearing about referendums Brexit and Scottish Independence. I want the 31st of October to come and go so we can get on with things and get some form of normality back "

That is hilarious.

The serious stuff has not even started yet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tbh I'm sick of hearing about referendums Brexit and Scottish Independence. I want the 31st of October to come and go so we can get on with things and get some form of normality back

That is hilarious.

The serious stuff has not even started yet."

you mean our Christmas Brussel sprouts wont come from Brussels...nooooooo

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