FabSwingers.com forum: Boris will fire anyone that doesnt agree with him

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

His cabinet will almost be empty, as many dont agree with him, is this a start of a dictatorship?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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Of course, yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Of course, yes "
Yes, it will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it."
That is right and that is the first sign of how it starts.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The Prime Minister can only "fire members of his Cabinet but they will still remain MPs.

The rebellion will come from the back benches. Older MPs that already know that they will probably be deselected at the next GE anyway.

The Opposition parties need any GE before October 31st, otherwise Brexit may well have happened.

Interesting week ahead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

AFAIK, he can take whip from them. So while they stay as MPs they can't stand next GE...

It's a bolshy threat which could make him powerless for the rest of this sitting.

Good luck with an emergency budget when you don't have a majority and it's brexit related...

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

He is trying to force a GE. labour are down in all the polls and although they say they want want one they are going to have to come off the fence in the next couple of weeks at the party conference.Boris knows by taking a hard line he will lose seats in the south but to greens and lib/dems as they wouldnt vote for a corbyn government and will gain in the north and midlands in brexit supporting constituencies that are held by labour.The labour mp,s in these constituencies are the key to what will happen in the votes next weeks they know could be voting themselves out of a job along with the independence who jumped ship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Johnson needs to be very careful how he plays this 'dictator' scenario, or he could find himself spending his dotage in a prison cell.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Johnson needs to be very careful how he plays this 'dictator' scenario, or he could find himself spending his dotage in a prison cell."

Lol, really ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Johnson needs to be very careful how he plays this 'dictator' scenario, or he could find himself spending his dotage in a prison cell.

Lol, really ?"

It all depends upon how far he's prepared to go. Dictators generally tend to not fare so well once their rule is over.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Johnson needs to be very careful how he plays this 'dictator' scenario, or he could find himself spending his dotage in a prison cell.

Lol, really ?

It all depends upon how far he's prepared to go. Dictators generally tend to not fare so well once their rule is over."

Ah ok, makes sense now.

Of course, yes, I’m sure he will be charged and end up in prison

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, the Brexit Cabal that refused to follow party discipline under Mrs May are now demanding, um, er, party discipline under Billy Bunter.

Fuck 'em.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it."
He did not sieze power he was elected by his party

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"His cabinet will almost be empty, as many dont agree with him, is this a start of a dictatorship?"
Every PM does the same basically,I am not sure if he can deselect an MP as that done by the local party.

He is taking a leaf out of Corbyn's book with the hard liners selecting MP's there is no difference.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"Yes, the Brexit Cabal that refused to follow party discipline under Mrs May are now demanding, um, er, party discipline under Billy Bunter.

Pretty much spot on, the ones who refused to follow the party demanding everyone follow the party now they have the power.

However it is politics and May could have demanded they follow the party line or sank the country too.

I just dont know what a general election would do. If you opposed Boris and got voted back in, surely that means keep opposing him?

Surely if he kicked you out of the party, then just run as an independent and promise people in your area that Boris will have to do a deal with you, like they had to do with the DUP.

These people are mainly all psychopaths. They can hold the party to ransom just as much as boris can as leader.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Yes, the Brexit Cabal that refused to follow party discipline under Mrs May are now demanding, um, er, party discipline under Billy Bunter.

Pretty much spot on, the ones who refused to follow the party demanding everyone follow the party now they have the power.

However it is politics and May could have demanded they follow the party line or sank the country too.

I just dont know what a general election would do. If you opposed Boris and got voted back in, surely that means keep opposing him?

Surely if he kicked you out of the party, then just run as an independent and promise people in your area that Boris will have to do a deal with you, like they had to do with the DUP.

These people are mainly all psychopaths. They can hold the party to ransom just as much as boris can as leader."
Phychopaths ????? fuck ive heard so exaggeration on here but you take the biscuit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His cabinet will almost be empty, as many dont agree with him, is this a start of a dictatorship?"

I disagree.

Those he appointed to cabinet posts were done so on the basis that they DID agree with him.

I suspect you are confusing Cabinet with general Conservative MP's

None of those at risk of deselection - or indeed expulsion from the party - are members of the cabinet.

I do of course refer to Dominic Grieve (already deselcted by his local Conservative association), David Gauke and Philip Hammond

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has grieve been deselected. I thought it was still going thru...

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Has grieve been deselected. I thought it was still going thru... "

Been threatened with it. Other names you'll hear in the next few days are Antoinette Sandbach, Alistair Burt and Guto Bebb, all Conservative MPs that will oppose the PM.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"Phychopaths ????? fuck ive heard so exaggeration on here but you take the biscuit.

Not just Boris, but all politicians rate highly on psychopath tests. Like most Businessmen do too. Surely everyone knows that.

Labour, the green party, liberals, conservatives, its just a bunch of psychopaths with different opinions.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Phychopaths ????? fuck ive heard so exaggeration on here but you take the biscuit.

Not just Boris, but all politicians rate highly on psychopath tests. Like most Businessmen do too. Surely everyone knows that.

Labour, the green party, liberals, conservatives, its just a bunch of psychopaths with different opinions."

everyone knows that?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Phychopaths ????? fuck ive heard so exaggeration on here but you take the biscuit.

Not just Boris, but all politicians rate highly on psychopath tests. Like most Businessmen do too. Surely everyone knows that.

Labour, the green party, liberals, conservatives, its just a bunch of psychopaths with different opinions.

everyone knows that?????"
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Well most people who know anything about phycology.

The sociopath/psychopath makes up a smallish percentage of the population but a rather large percentage of business/entrepreneur/politicans/scientists etc etc.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

i dont recognize these traits in my local mp or any business men i know.Psychopathy is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i dont recognize these traits in my local mp or any business men i know.Psychopathy is traditionally a personality disorder characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits."
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According to most psychology studies done you get a ratio of about 1-2% of the population with psychopathic traits, the male prison population jumps to about 30% just above CEOs at about 23%.

It's a personality trait that works for business and criminals.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

When dictators come to power they never do it openly, it is always 'the will of the people' that forces them to suspend democracy, reduce freedom and impose an autocratic dictatorship. It is telling how quickly de Pfeffel is moving to remove all opposition to his rule and how easily he claims it to be the will of the people.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, I have read some similar research about entrepreneurs and sociopathy - their drive to accumulate wealth often is at the expense of other characteristics.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

Try IT sales, you've accurately described many of my colleagues...

And the ones in managerial positions are the worst.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

Just because you don't recognise them doesn't mean they aren't there. Another well known aspect of psychopathy is their ability to decieve; especially those pre-disposed to believe their bullshit.

You're just susceptible. Doesn't make you a bad person.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Just because you don't recognise them doesn't mean they aren't there. Another well known aspect of psychopathy is their ability to decieve; especially those pre-disposed to believe their bullshit.

You're just susceptible. Doesn't make you a bad person."
Right so friends and family of mine have been hiding the fact that they are psychopaths

and im just susceptible, how patronizing can you get?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

His ego just wants the power and he's looking forward to making big £ in the longer term. Other people, whether inside his party, or the population as a whole, do not matter at all. HE matters to himself. A ruthless, dangerous individual, highlighting the risks to the country, should someone like Johnson abuse his privilege.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

Just because you don't recognise them doesn't mean they aren't there. Another well known aspect of psychopathy is their ability to decieve; especially those pre-disposed to believe their bullshit.

You're just susceptible. Doesn't make you a bad person.Right so friends and family of mine have been hiding the fact that they are psychopaths

and im just susceptible, how patronizing can you get? "

They wouldn't have to make much effort to hide it from someone with your limited powers of observation.

That patronizing enough for you? LOL

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The argument goes that Johnson is acting entirely lawfully.

That may be so. It does not mean it is right.

His intentions are clear - to remove Parliament from the Brexit equation.

Parliament.

The thing that Brexiteers claimed to hold so dearly in their hearts now becomes something to be dispensed with.

Yes, it may be lawful.

So too was the Enabling Act 1933 that empowered the Cabinet of Germany to bypass the Reichstag and the Reichsrat.

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

"Yes, the Brexit Cabal that refused to follow party discipline under Mrs May are now demanding, um, er, party discipline under Billy Bunter.

Fuck 'em.

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. Johnson doesn't want Tory MPs to vote against the tories and with Corbyn , yet Johnsons Cabinet ( and Johnson himself ) previously voted against the tories and with Corbyn , The Tories that Johnson doesn't want to vote with Corbyn and against the tories are the same tories who previously voted with the tories and against Corbyn

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

What does it tell you about how far to the right the Conservative Party has swung when people like Ken Clarke, Burt, Hammond are branded as traitorous rebels?

These are the people who voted to leave the EU with an agreement. They were thwarted by the Brextremists who are now in Government.

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"What does it tell you about how far to the right the Conservative Party has swung when people like Ken Clarke, Burt, Hammond are branded as traitorous rebels?

These are the people who voted to leave the EU with an agreement. They were thwarted by the Brextremists who are now in Government. "

The split in the Conservative Party could well be massive. Most Conservatives prefer the more moderate politics of Clarke and Hammond and not those of Johnson and Raab.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

i remember the right-wingers in here decrying Corbyn and his team for trying to deselect the Labour moderates for not toeing the line.

Johnson now is doing exactly the same to the Conservative Party.

Johnson is the new Corbyn.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

The boss is always right . .that's what I tell my staff ....they tend to agree or it's bus time

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I did chuckle when I heard Johnson warn Conservative MPs not "chop the legs from under the UK".

Which is precisely what he and his ERG chums did to the last administration.

Their soft Brexit was repeatedly thwarted by the Brexit ideologues.

Now the ideologues are in charge and are finding the soft Brexiteers will thwart them.

The Conservative Party needs to split.

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By *ab_SparklesWoman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

"The boss is always right . .that's what I tell my staff ....they tend to agree or it's bus time"

They probably agree because they need to put food on the table and pay bills, i think that you appear to be a dictator. Maybe you should have a holiday in think about how you are as a person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His cabinet will almost be empty, as many dont agree with him, is this a start of a dictatorship?"

But was it Boris who did the firing, or is there some other puppet master in charge of Boris?

Is Boris nothing more than the public monkey, dancing on stage to the "advice" of the real organ grinder?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"When dictators come to power they never do it openly, it is always 'the will of the people' that forces them to suspend democracy, reduce freedom and impose an autocratic dictatorship. It is telling how quickly de Pfeffel is moving to remove all opposition to his rule and how easily he claims it to be the will of the people."
You know all about Adolf Hitler don't you

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"You know all about Adolf Hitler don't you"

Yep. Including that you would happily wear a brown shirt (or one of Mosley's black ones).

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

I have lots of holidays ...as I'm the boss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Adolf Hitler. Hmm, will that be the same person who served in both world wars, was spurned by his exes, invented Autobahns long before the UK got that tiddly bit of M6 near Preston and invented motorway services on the "difficult to engineer" stretch of Autobahn which passes Chimsee?

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

He’s just copying Trump. Serial cheater, serial liar , incompetent buffoon, blonde, chubby, mysoginist dictator

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think he is still a brexit opponent. Does he do all kinds of stupid things to disgust people leaving the EU.

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