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"Republican marchers calling for the eminently sensible and inevitable unification of the island of Ireland were violently set upon by union jack-waving thugs shouting anti-Catholic abuse. Pubs were put on lock-down, police struggled to cope and were obliged to deploy mounted units, riot police and air cover. This is the ugly face of the horrible thuggish tribalism of central Scotland, where there is a crossover of the orange lodge, nutters at the (sizeable)fringes of Rangers support, the DUP and the BNP. They also claim to be the true defenders of beleaguered Protestantism, but never attend church. Scotland's shame - and the sins of the colonisation of Ulster by the plantation Scots coming back to haunt us centuries later. " Just watching the news seems that nobody was set upon.Nobody injured and no damage to any property ,its not right everyone should have the right to peaceful protest but your post is a bit dramatic. | |||
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"I was in Edinburgh a couple of weeks before the 2014 referendum when 10,000 from the Orange Order and the like marched through the centre in support of the Union. I remember wondering to myself how violent the reaction would be in the event of a Yes vote. I still do. The only question for me is whether Ireland erupts before Scotland does. " ireland erupted 800 years ago and since the late 70s 3000 people have been killed as a direct result of northern British rule. We have had some semblance of peace since the good Friday agreement. Brexit has given the thugs morons and murderers an perfect excuse to go at it again. The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all | |||
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"Why this weekend, I wondered. Then I remembered. Rangers v Celtic, 1200hrs, Sunday" A Republican parade on this weekend then. Restraint and sensible actions have to be shown by both sides. | |||
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" The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all " Actions have consequences. Brexit has consequences. But the Brextremists seem oblivious or irresponsible to the consequences of their actions. They have become consumed by ideology at the expense of reason and evidence. The genie is out the bottle. | |||
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" The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all Actions have consequences. Brexit has consequences. But the Brextremists seem oblivious or irresponsible to the consequences of their actions. They have become consumed by ideology at the expense of reason and evidence. The genie is out the bottle. " That march had nothing to do with Brexit. | |||
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"I was in Edinburgh a couple of weeks before the 2014 referendum when 10,000 from the Orange Order and the like marched through the centre in support of the Union. I remember wondering to myself how violent the reaction would be in the event of a Yes vote. I still do. The only question for me is whether Ireland erupts before Scotland does. ireland erupted 800 years ago and since the late 70s 3000 people have been killed as a direct result of northern British rule. We have had some semblance of peace since the good Friday agreement. Brexit has given the thugs morons and murderers an perfect excuse to go at it again. The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all " . Nobody has twisted these idiots arms to make them violent, Nobody. The only people to blame for their violence is themselves. If we want to start getting somewhere in society we have to stop victim blaming and realise we all have a personal responsibility not to be violent regardless of circumstances. | |||
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" The "rally" last night in Govan by Saoradh, the group that murdered young journalist Lyra McKee, and sent a letter bomb to Glasgow University is condemned by every mainstream Irish Republican group, including Sinn Fein. This the second time they have been allowed to march in Glasgow. This has nothing to do with Brexit, but the snps "Ulsterisation" of Scotland. How Glasgow City Council allowed this in spite of Police advice, is incredible. " Can you explain what you mean by snp ulserisation of scotland? as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum | |||
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"I doubt that you are either "pretty" or "sure" at all. " So you just made that up about the snp? | |||
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"That's an interesting interpretation of my post, do you recall "What we need in Scotland is another Ulster" - Hugh McDairmed, SNP founder, honoured every year by SNP politicians wearing his white rose? We are now reaping the seeds he sowed. Now can you evidence the following with credible and verifiable quotes please "as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum"? " Your post is all made up crap as the march was organized by the james Connolly flute band and the ones who caused the trouble were the union bears a bunch of bigoted rangers fans and if you watch the videos on social media there vile anti catholic chants and calling the marchers fenian bstrds ect,and as for you trying to bring the snp in to this is just utter crap,i also think all orange order and republican marches should be banned in scotland | |||
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"Thank for confirming the Ulsterisation of Scotland. Your post has done just that. Pictures from the parade in Govan showed marchers at the front holding a large banner supporting hardline militant group Saoradh, which is linked to the New IRA. I agree that terrorist supporting marches should be banned. " And what has it to do with snp? Do you also agree bigoted anti catholic orange order marches should be banned? | |||
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"Thank for confirming the Ulsterisation of Scotland. Your post has done just that. Pictures from the parade in Govan showed marchers at the front holding a large banner supporting hardline militant group Saoradh, which is linked to the New IRA. I agree that terrorist supporting marches should be banned. " What about terrorist supported bonfires? | |||
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"Thank for confirming the Ulsterisation of Scotland. Your post has done just that. Pictures from the parade in Govan showed marchers at the front holding a large banner supporting hardline militant group Saoradh, which is linked to the New IRA. I agree that terrorist supporting marches should be banned. And what has it to do with snp? Do you also agree bigoted anti catholic orange order marches should be banned?" I see you make no mention of the unionists who started the trouble | |||
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"Thank for confirming the Ulsterisation of Scotland. Your post has done just that. Pictures from the parade in Govan showed marchers at the front holding a large banner supporting hardline militant group Saoradh, which is linked to the New IRA. I agree that terrorist supporting marches should be banned. What about terrorist supported bonfires?" Uch thats part of their culture lol | |||
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"You see what you want to see, and ignore that which you don't. "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." The "Brits out" rallying call resonates with the Anglophobic element within the SNP and independence supporters. It is they that are directly responsible for turning Irish nationalists into Scottish nationalists. They have brought hatred into Scottish politics & given central belt sectarianism rocket fuel by giving it the chance to bash the Brits. Is it any wonder that there is a backlash to this? " What a utter load of crap its pretty clear you have an agenda against the snp who have nothing to do with what happened last nigh ,and il ask again do you think anti catholic marches by orange order should be banned? Ive already said both should be banned | |||
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"On what grounds? Because you don't like them or that they promote illegality. If you want to ban something, you must have good grounds to do so. Independence marches next perhaps? " On the grounds they are a racist sectarian bigoted organisation, still waiting your answer | |||
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"You see what you want to see, and ignore that which you don't. "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." The "Brits out" rallying call resonates with the Anglophobic element within the SNP and independence supporters. It is they that are directly responsible for turning Irish nationalists into Scottish nationalists. They have brought hatred into Scottish politics & given central belt sectarianism rocket fuel by giving it the chance to bash the Brits. Is it any wonder that there is a backlash to this? " Hate to tell you but sectarianism and hatred was well and truly on the go long before the snp got into power. | |||
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"You see what you want to see, and ignore that which you don't. "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." The "Brits out" rallying call resonates with the Anglophobic element within the SNP and independence supporters. It is they that are directly responsible for turning Irish nationalists into Scottish nationalists. They have brought hatred into Scottish politics & given central belt sectarianism rocket fuel by giving it the chance to bash the Brits. Is it any wonder that there is a backlash to this? Hate to tell you but sectarianism and hatred was well and truly on the go long before the snp got into power." He will deny that as he has an agenda against snp | |||
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" On the grounds they are a racist sectarian bigoted organisation, still waiting your answer " I don't think they are racist but I'll give you the other two, however they are not illegal, so there is no legal grounds to do so. I may not like or agree with them but to ban them is a step too far. Only if they promote or support illegality, for example, the hardline militant group Saoradh, which was marching last night. I'd say the same for loyalist paramilitary marches too. | |||
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"Meanwhile Ireland played Wales and England without a bother of trouble in Rugby. This is nothing really to worry about, even if some slaps were given. Even if one side was a bit worse than the other. Its just handbags at dawn stuff." yep great game well done Ireland after last week. | |||
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"That's an interesting interpretation of my post, do you recall "What we need in Scotland is another Ulster" - Hugh McDairmed, SNP founder, honoured every year by SNP politicians wearing his white rose? We are now reaping the seeds he sowed. Now can you evidence the following with credible and verifiable quotes please "as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum"? Your post is all made up crap as the march was organized by the james Connolly flute band and the ones who caused the trouble were the union bears a bunch of bigoted rangers fans and if you watch the videos on social media there vile anti catholic chants and calling the marchers fenian bstrds ect,and as for you trying to bring the snp in to this is just utter crap,i also think all orange order and republican marches should be banned in scotland " And the choice of marching in Govan? Knowing its the blue side of Glasgow? They knew exactly what they were doing, and when they were doing it. | |||
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"That's an interesting interpretation of my post, do you recall "What we need in Scotland is another Ulster" - Hugh McDairmed, SNP founder, honoured every year by SNP politicians wearing his white rose? We are now reaping the seeds he sowed. Now can you evidence the following with credible and verifiable quotes please "as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum"? Your post is all made up crap as the march was organized by the james Connolly flute band and the ones who caused the trouble were the union bears a bunch of bigoted rangers fans and if you watch the videos on social media there vile anti catholic chants and calling the marchers fenian bstrds ect,and as for you trying to bring the snp in to this is just utter crap,i also think all orange order and republican marches should be banned in scotland And the choice of marching in Govan? Knowing its the blue side of Glasgow? They knew exactly what they were doing, and when they were doing it. " Both sides do it , republican marches dont have the monopoly on that. | |||
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"That's an interesting interpretation of my post, do you recall "What we need in Scotland is another Ulster" - Hugh McDairmed, SNP founder, honoured every year by SNP politicians wearing his white rose? We are now reaping the seeds he sowed. Now can you evidence the following with credible and verifiable quotes please "as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum"? Your post is all made up crap as the march was organized by the james Connolly flute band and the ones who caused the trouble were the union bears a bunch of bigoted rangers fans and if you watch the videos on social media there vile anti catholic chants and calling the marchers fenian bstrds ect,and as for you trying to bring the snp in to this is just utter crap,i also think all orange order and republican marches should be banned in scotland And the choice of marching in Govan? Knowing its the blue side of Glasgow? They knew exactly what they were doing, and when they were doing it. Both sides do it , republican marches dont have the monopoly on that. " And should you ever want the sectarian violence to stop? | |||
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" That march had nothing to do with Brexit. " Why do you think I was referring to Glasgow? | |||
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" This has nothing to do with Brexit, but the snps "Ulsterisation" of Scotland. " | |||
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"I was in Edinburgh a couple of weeks before the 2014 referendum when 10,000 from the Orange Order and the like marched through the centre in support of the Union. I remember wondering to myself how violent the reaction would be in the event of a Yes vote. I still do. The only question for me is whether Ireland erupts before Scotland does. ireland erupted 800 years ago and since the late 70s 3000 people have been killed as a direct result of northern British rule. We have had some semblance of peace since the good Friday agreement. Brexit has given the thugs morons and murderers an perfect excuse to go at it again. The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all . Nobody has twisted these idiots arms to make them violent, Nobody. The only people to blame for their violence is themselves. If we want to start getting somewhere in society we have to stop victim blaming and realise we all have a personal responsibility not to be violent regardless of circumstances." You don't think driving hundreds of thousands out of the country on coffin ships is twisting arms. A death toll of close to two million in a genocide through forced starvation is twisting arms. Patroling streets with military grade weapons and a licence to kill twisting arms with reason to fight back. Fools on the streets have no business involving innocent people but to put out a blanket statement like that shows an inherent lake of historical understanding or a Tory view, they are not us and therefore they are expendable | |||
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"That's an interesting interpretation of my post, do you recall "What we need in Scotland is another Ulster" - Hugh McDairmed, SNP founder, honoured every year by SNP politicians wearing his white rose? We are now reaping the seeds he sowed. Now can you evidence the following with credible and verifiable quotes please "as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum"? Your post is all made up crap as the march was organized by the james Connolly flute band and the ones who caused the trouble were the union bears a bunch of bigoted rangers fans and if you watch the videos on social media there vile anti catholic chants and calling the marchers fenian bstrds ect,and as for you trying to bring the snp in to this is just utter crap,i also think all orange order and republican marches should be banned in scotland And the choice of marching in Govan? Knowing its the blue side of Glasgow? They knew exactly what they were doing, and when they were doing it. Both sides do it , republican marches dont have the monopoly on that. And should you ever want the sectarian violence to stop? " Ban the lot of them . There is no place in the modern world for it.Enough hatred going on without fighting amongst ourselves. | |||
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" This has nothing to do with Brexit, but the snps "Ulsterisation" of Scotland. " | |||
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"I was in Edinburgh a couple of weeks before the 2014 referendum when 10,000 from the Orange Order and the like marched through the centre in support of the Union. I remember wondering to myself how violent the reaction would be in the event of a Yes vote. I still do. The only question for me is whether Ireland erupts before Scotland does. ireland erupted 800 years ago and since the late 70s 3000 people have been killed as a direct result of northern British rule. We have had some semblance of peace since the good Friday agreement. Brexit has given the thugs morons and murderers an perfect excuse to go at it again. The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all . Nobody has twisted these idiots arms to make them violent, Nobody. The only people to blame for their violence is themselves. If we want to start getting somewhere in society we have to stop victim blaming and realise we all have a personal responsibility not to be violent regardless of circumstances. You don't think driving hundreds of thousands out of the country on coffin ships is twisting arms. A death toll of close to two million in a genocide through forced starvation is twisting arms. Patroling streets with military grade weapons and a licence to kill twisting arms with reason to fight back. Fools on the streets have no business involving innocent people but to put out a blanket statement like that shows an inherent lake of historical understanding or a Tory view, they are not us and therefore they are expendable " Fuck sake everyone needs to stop living in the past and move forwards hence the reason those morons will continue their idiotic behaviour none of those idiots even know what they are rioting for it's mindless idiotic behaviour being cycled on and on.. Stop all demos, and stop all flut marches and stop this racist, you bigoted behaviour best if it is its history repeating itself and no one is prepared to pull the plug o you it. Politicians are to afraid to be the ones that says stop.. | |||
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"A fair bit of discussion about restricting/prohibiting marches. But the blame for yesterdays disorder lies with the grown men who think it is ok to fight centuries old battles on our streets in 2019. Exactly! It's those idiots that have no idea what they are even fighting about, but it's just an excuse to be morons " | |||
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"A fair bit of discussion about restricting/prohibiting marches. But the blame for yesterdays disorder lies with the grown men who think it is ok to fight centuries old battles on our streets in 2019. " Maybe shoving 10 years each up their arses for inciting violence and riots would help eradicate it, instead of the slap on the wrist usually given . | |||
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"The British have never got on with the neighbours, basically." Whereas the French, germans, Spanish, Portuguese, Vikings, Russians, Greeks, Italians, Chinese, Japanese,always have | |||
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"The British have never got on with the neighbours, basically. Whereas the French, germans, Spanish, Portuguese, Vikings, Russians, Greeks, Italians, Chinese, Japanese,always have" | |||
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"I was in Edinburgh a couple of weeks before the 2014 referendum when 10,000 from the Orange Order and the like marched through the centre in support of the Union. I remember wondering to myself how violent the reaction would be in the event of a Yes vote. I still do. The only question for me is whether Ireland erupts before Scotland does. ireland erupted 800 years ago and since the late 70s 3000 people have been killed as a direct result of northern British rule. We have had some semblance of peace since the good Friday agreement. Brexit has given the thugs morons and murderers an perfect excuse to go at it again. The no deal farce will cost countless lives in northern Ireland but leavers just don't seem to care. It's all to familiar and not a pleasant situation at all . Nobody has twisted these idiots arms to make them violent, Nobody. The only people to blame for their violence is themselves. If we want to start getting somewhere in society we have to stop victim blaming and realise we all have a personal responsibility not to be violent regardless of circumstances. You don't think driving hundreds of thousands out of the country on coffin ships is twisting arms. A death toll of close to two million in a genocide through forced starvation is twisting arms. Patroling streets with military grade weapons and a licence to kill twisting arms with reason to fight back. Fools on the streets have no business involving innocent people but to put out a blanket statement like that shows an inherent lake of historical understanding or a Tory view, they are not us and therefore they are expendable " . I must have missed that bit in Glasgow last night | |||
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"The British have never got on with the neighbours, basically. Whereas the French, germans, Spanish, Portuguese, Vikings, Russians, Greeks, Italians, Chinese, Japanese,always have" Clutching At Straws | |||
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"The British have never got on with the neighbours, basically. Whereas the French, germans, Spanish, Portuguese, Vikings, Russians, Greeks, Italians, Chinese, Japanese,always have Clutching At Straws " Standards and principles. | |||
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"That's an interesting interpretation of my post, do you recall "What we need in Scotland is another Ulster" - Hugh McDairmed, SNP founder, honoured every year by SNP politicians wearing his white rose? We are now reaping the seeds he sowed. Now can you evidence the following with credible and verifiable quotes please "as im pretty sure it was ruth davidsons tories and labour who called for unionists and the outdated bigots of the orange order to vote no in last referendum"? Your post is all made up crap as the march was organized by the james Connolly flute band and the ones who caused the trouble were the union bears a bunch of bigoted rangers fans and if you watch the videos on social media there vile anti catholic chants and calling the marchers fenian bstrds ect,and as for you trying to bring the snp in to this is just utter crap,i also think all orange order and republican marches should be banned in scotland And the choice of marching in Govan? Knowing its the blue side of Glasgow? They knew exactly what they were doing, and when they were doing it. " Yip i agree its prob wrong place to march but govan is a multicultural area too also the orange order go out their way to march by chapels singing their vile anti catholic songs and spitting on preists and parishioners,when they march the only violence and trouble thats caused is by themselves and their followers as i said earlier the protest and violence was caused by the union bears who themselves are marching to ibrox tomorow there banners flyers and posters say lets march and stop the fenians think that says it all | |||
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"Yip i agree its prob wrong place to march but govan is a multicultural area too also the orange order go out their way to march by chapels singing their vile anti catholic songs and spitting on preists and parishioners,when they march the only violence and trouble thats caused is by themselves and their followers as i said earlier the protest and violence was caused by the union bears who themselves are marching to ibrox tomorow there banners flyers and posters say lets march and stop the fenians think that says it all " Bingo. | |||
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"You can blame the Scots and James VI for that. " Not the snp... shocked. | |||
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" It was the Act of Settlement of 1701 that provided the exclusive succession of a Protestant. " Not quite. Any religion. So long as it wasn't Catholic. The British crown to this day is sectarian by nature. Someone earlier asked for a big person to step forward. Removing sectarianism as a core value of the British crown might be a good step. | |||
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"Indeed. December 2011: Celtic are fined £12,700 after fans sing pro-IRA chants during a Europa League clash with Rennes in Glasgow. March 2012: A £21,000 penalty is issued after supporters set off fireworks and unveil an insulting banner aimed at UEFA during their Europa League fixture with Udinese in Italy. September 2012: The use of fireworks at Celtic Park during a Champions League qualifier with Cliftonville costs the Scottish title winners another £4,200. December 2013: The club are fined around £42,000 after the Green Brigade unveils "illicit banners" featuring IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands before a Champions League match with AC Milan. September 2014: UEFA fines Celtic £15,900 after fans display a Palestinian flag during a Champions League qualifier against KR Reykjavik. February 2015: The club are fined £7,300 after Celtic fans clash with rival supporters and Croatian police during a Europa League group stage match against Dinamo Zagreb. The fine also punishes Celtic for the supporters' use of fireworks. March 2015: Flares set off by Celtic fans during a Europa League clash with Inter Milan at the San Siro incur a £3,600 sanction. February 2016: A £10,000 fine is issued for using fireworks following a Europa League tie with Fenerbahce in Istanbul, although a portion of the fine related to the "improper conduct" of the team. August 2016: Fans again flew Palestinian flags in the Champions League qualifier against Israeli side Hapoel Be'er Sheva, prompting UEFA to fine the Scottish champions £8,616 for the use of "illicit banners". February 2017: More fireworks and crowd disturbances during a Champions League match against Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium are punished with a £16,050 fine. July 2017: Celtic are fined £20,000 for crowd-related offences during a Champions League home qualifier against Linfield, including blocked stairways and another "illicit banner" featuring a paramilitary-style figure. October 2017: Celtic are fined £8,900 after 21-year-old supporter John Hatton raced on to the Parkhead pitch and aimed a kick at Paris St Germain striker Kylian Mbappe in the Champions League match in September. " All that and not one charge for racism or secterian chants lol now go and put a list of the rangers fines or are you just against one side | |||
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"The IRA were indeed sectarian. You do you're own looking up. From the act of settlement, "And that the said Crown and Government shall from time to time descend to and be enjoyed by such Person or Persons being Protestants as should have inherited." " Cant be arsed your getting boring now same crap in every post you have an agenda against snp nationalists il say it again the trouble was caused by the union bears and all the videos online show the police charging them so are you condoning their behaviour | |||
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"Of course you are completely open minded, and have no axe to grind. " My problem is with your first comment of the ulserisation of scotland by the snp which you know is a lot of crap | |||
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"Indeed. December 2011: Celtic are fined £12,700 after fans sing pro-IRA chants during a Europa League clash with Rennes in Glasgow. March 2012: A £21,000 penalty is issued after supporters set off fireworks and unveil an insulting banner aimed at UEFA during their Europa League fixture with Udinese in Italy. September 2012: The use of fireworks at Celtic Park during a Champions League qualifier with Cliftonville costs the Scottish title winners another £4,200. December 2013: The club are fined around £42,000 after the Green Brigade unveils "illicit banners" featuring IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands before a Champions League match with AC Milan. September 2014: UEFA fines Celtic £15,900 after fans display a Palestinian flag during a Champions League qualifier against KR Reykjavik. February 2015: The club are fined £7,300 after Celtic fans clash with rival supporters and Croatian police during a Europa League group stage match against Dinamo Zagreb. The fine also punishes Celtic for the supporters' use of fireworks. March 2015: Flares set off by Celtic fans during a Europa League clash with Inter Milan at the San Siro incur a £3,600 sanction. February 2016: A £10,000 fine is issued for using fireworks following a Europa League tie with Fenerbahce in Istanbul, although a portion of the fine related to the "improper conduct" of the team. August 2016: Fans again flew Palestinian flags in the Champions League qualifier against Israeli side Hapoel Be'er Sheva, prompting UEFA to fine the Scottish champions £8,616 for the use of "illicit banners". February 2017: More fireworks and crowd disturbances during a Champions League match against Manchester City at the Etihad Stadium are punished with a £16,050 fine. July 2017: Celtic are fined £20,000 for crowd-related offences during a Champions League home qualifier against Linfield, including blocked stairways and another "illicit banner" featuring a paramilitary-style figure. October 2017: Celtic are fined £8,900 after 21-year-old supporter John Hatton raced on to the Parkhead pitch and aimed a kick at Paris St Germain striker Kylian Mbappe in the Champions League match in September. " Are Rangers better behaved because they can't afford the fines? LOL | |||
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"Fuck sake everyone needs to stop living in the past and move forwards hence the reason those morons will continue their idiotic behaviour none of those idiots even know what they are rioting for it's mindless idiotic behaviour being cycled on and on.. Stop all demos, and stop all flut marches and stop this racist, you bigoted behaviour best if it is its history repeating itself and no one is prepared to pull the plug o you it. Politicians are to afraid to be the ones that says stop.. " I'll do you a deal, I will personally stop Irish people learning their history and living in the past, when British people stop quoting Churchill and wearing poppies every year. Deal? Irish people broke the cycle while remembering all the bad things that happened. A little fight in glasgow does not change that. But speaking of history repeating. Irish history says that the UK will cause a border to be built, break agreements with them, and clamp down on catholics in the north. | |||
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"SNP's Ulsterisation of Scotland? Total bampot." Yep. Probably even unhappier than he usually is, too. | |||
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"Fuck sake everyone needs to stop living in the past and move forwards hence the reason those morons will continue their idiotic behaviour none of those idiots even know what they are rioting for it's mindless idiotic behaviour being cycled on and on.. Stop all demos, and stop all flut marches and stop this racist, you bigoted behaviour best if it is its history repeating itself and no one is prepared to pull the plug o you it. Politicians are to afraid to be the ones that says stop.. I'll do you a deal, I will personally stop Irish people learning their history and living in the past, when British people stop quoting Churchill and wearing poppies every year. Deal? Irish people broke the cycle while remembering all the bad things that happened. A little fight in glasgow does not change that. But speaking of history repeating. Irish history says that the UK will cause a border to be built, break agreements with them, and clamp down on catholics in the north. " . There's nothing wrong with learning history and living in the past, it's when people dive into violence where the problems start. If an orange march makes somebody take a gun and shoot somebody the problem really isn't the march, it's the bellend with the gun to blame. What somebody's great great great grandaddy did to somebody else's great great great grandaddy is history and bears nothing at all on somebodys life today and certainly doesn't justify any violence, those that think it does need there bumps feeling. | |||
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