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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

When a second vote was first mooywd, everyone was up in arms about the question... Especially about splitting the leave vote.

Now hard core Brexiteers are saying no deal is the only true version of Brexit (shame they weren't that clear during the referendum)

And if Boris can't solve the Irish problem in 30 days, and it comes to pass the onky solution which can be put in place today is some kind of custom arrangement...

Then is there any choice buy to have no deal versus remain?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Second ref might work but if it's still so close it will divide the nation again.

Perhaps unite Ireland and give Northern Ireland to the EU.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Second ref might work but if it's still so close it will divide the nation again.

Perhaps unite Ireland and give Northern Ireland to the EU. "

Think we should have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th vote then we put the numbers 1-5 in a hat and have Bruce Springsteen pick a number and we go with that result ,,, fair yeah

No way should we stick to the democratic way of life and live by the democratic vote, how silly would that be ,,, aarrgghhh bloody stupid democracy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of people have a big shock coming when they realise that no matter what in or out thier life will still be same shit different day no better off but possibly a bit more difficult.

But don’t worry the rich folks will do just fine

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

Prior to the referendum Jacob Rees Mogg ,said there should be 2 votes , the first being the in/out choice as in the 2016 referendum , the 2nd being a confirmation vote on any deal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prior to the referendum Jacob Rees Mogg ,said there should be 2 votes , the first being the in/out choice as in the 2016 referendum , the 2nd being a confirmation vote on any deal "

Also Farage said if the vote was too close it would be unfinished business but he always brushes that aside

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Second ref might work but if it's still so close it will divide the nation again.

Perhaps unite Ireland and give Northern Ireland to the EU.

Think we should have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th vote then we put the numbers 1-5 in a hat and have Bruce Springsteen pick a number and we go with that result ,,, fair yeah

No way should we stick to the democratic way of life and live by the democratic vote, how silly would that be ,,, aarrgghhh bloody stupid democracy "

Everyone is shouting about democracy, and the loudest johnson who wants to suspend a democratically elected parliament. Here is the paradox

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Second ref might work but if it's still so close it will divide the nation again.

Perhaps unite Ireland and give Northern Ireland to the EU.

Think we should have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th vote then we put the numbers 1-5 in a hat and have Bruce Springsteen pick a number and we go with that result ,,, fair yeah

No way should we stick to the democratic way of life and live by the democratic vote, how silly would that be ,,, aarrgghhh bloody stupid democracy

Everyone is shouting about democracy, and the loudest johnson who wants to suspend a democratically elected parliament. Here is the paradox"

And the reason is because they are trying to overturn our democratic vote , so thank you Boris and doing what the country asked for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Second ref might work but if it's still so close it will divide the nation again.

Perhaps unite Ireland and give Northern Ireland to the EU.

Think we should have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th vote then we put the numbers 1-5 in a hat and have Bruce Springsteen pick a number and we go with that result ,,, fair yeah

No way should we stick to the democratic way of life and live by the democratic vote, how silly would that be ,,, aarrgghhh bloody stupid democracy

Everyone is shouting about democracy, and the loudest johnson who wants to suspend a democratically elected parliament. Here is the paradox"

Brexiteers have wanted an end to democracy since 23rd June 2016.

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By *dglasgow30TV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The window for a 2nd referendum has gone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??"

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The conservatives are playing the only hand left to them and its a sad day for democracy when party politics undermine parliamentary sovereignty. Johnson is a product of his over privileged background and has no intention of uniting the country, he just wants power at any cost - you only needed to watch his body language when he met trump at the G7 to realise who’s pocket he was in!

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By *dglasgow30TV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants. "

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants. "

So trying to deliver what the country wants is a dictatorship??? Uuurrrrmmm that’s a big fat no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu."

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

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By *dglasgow30TV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense surly

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics. "

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

I love the way Boris is playing this like a game of chess. He is making moves that force his opponents down a particular path to defeat.

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By *dglasgow30TV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics. "

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

In April 2019 the swiss supreme court declared a referendum result void due to mis-information of the electorate in the upleading referendum campaign. It was the first time in Swiss history since the foundation of the confederation in 1848. Surely you can argue the UK electorate has been misinformed in the Brexit referendum as terms & conditions of leaving the EU weren't outlined respectively no one mentioned crashing out with a no deal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me"

It doesn't make sense because the suspension of a parliament elected democratically by the electorate is not democratic. johnson was not elected by the electorate. Just what he does sounds like a coup. He did it to obtain absolute power. This is a simple example of a coup.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"In April 2019 the swiss supreme court declared a referendum result void due to mis-information of the electorate in the upleading referendum campaign. It was the first time in Swiss history since the foundation of the confederation in 1848. Surely you can argue the UK electorate has been misinformed in the Brexit referendum as terms & conditions of leaving the EU weren't outlined respectively no one mentioned crashing out with a no deal. "

It was always there from the very start ... withdrawing without an agreement is the default.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

It doesn't make sense because the suspension of a parliament elected democratically by the electorate is not democratic. johnson was not elected by the electorate. Just what he does sounds like a coup. He did it to obtain absolute power. This is a simple example of a coup."

Remember parliament passed a law to leave on the 31st October, Boris is just helping them to stick to that decision.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

It doesn't make sense because the suspension of a parliament elected democratically by the electorate is not democratic. johnson was not elected by the electorate. Just what he does sounds like a coup. He did it to obtain absolute power. This is a simple example of a coup."

Omg lol, come on people this is getting silly now

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

It doesn't make sense because the suspension of a parliament elected democratically by the electorate is not democratic. johnson was not elected by the electorate. Just what he does sounds like a coup. He did it to obtain absolute power. This is a simple example of a coup.

Remember parliament passed a law to leave on the 31st October, Boris is just helping them to stick to that decision."

Parliament should be able to change its mind. And if it does, the PM shouldn't stand in its way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me"

Parliament shutting down making sense to you is fine. You're entitled to like anything you want.

But the opposition parties are trying to stop a no deal brexit. They're not trying to stop us from leaving.

Would you prefer that they allow Johnson to be force through the most damaging possible brexit?

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

It doesn't make sense because the suspension of a parliament elected democratically by the electorate is not democratic. johnson was not elected by the electorate. Just what he does sounds like a coup. He did it to obtain absolute power. This is a simple example of a coup.

Remember parliament passed a law to leave on the 31st October, Boris is just helping them to stick to that decision.

Parliament should be able to change its mind. And if it does, the PM shouldn't stand in its way. "

So parliament should go against the voice of the nation and the democratic vote ?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

Parliament shutting down making sense to you is fine. You're entitled to like anything you want.

But the opposition parties are trying to stop a no deal brexit. They're not trying to stop us from leaving.

Would you prefer that they allow Johnson to be force through the most damaging possible brexit?"

By trying to stop a specific version of brexit they don’t like, they are stopping us from leaving

The politicians knew what they were voting on when the referendum was agreed, and they also knew what they were voting for when article 50 was triggered.

Now let’s get on with it.

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By *dglasgow30TV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

What is this most damaging Brexit people keep saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What is this most damaging Brexit people keep saying.

"

Where have you been for the last three years.

No deal is far more damaging than a shitty deal like May was trying for.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"What is this most damaging Brexit people keep saying.

"

Well if you listen to some on here the worst brexit means the world will explode Christmas 2020 ( maybe sooner )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have had 3 years to sort a deal. What's the point now, was a extra few weeks going to change anything??

Johnson should be held to account, and his plans for a no deal brexit need to be scrutinised. As per parliamentary process.

Otherwise he's an acting dictator and can do what he wants.

Like everyone said tho, it was a stay or leave vote. Not leave with this n that.

All this shouting for another vote is same as the snp supporters asking for another vote. That was a independence yes or no. Scotland was told if they stayed part of the uk then that was the only way for them to be part of the eu. So what's the point ? Best bet would be clean house and all start from scratch, sort our country out then think about eu.

I'm not suggesting another vote. I was answering your question about the point of parliament sitting during this crucial time in British politics.

The country wanted to leave. That is what's happening, other parties was trying to take over the current government in an attempt to stop the leave from happing. That sounds like coup , so the shutting of parliament makes sense to me

Parliament shutting down making sense to you is fine. You're entitled to like anything you want.

But the opposition parties are trying to stop a no deal brexit. They're not trying to stop us from leaving.

Would you prefer that they allow Johnson to be force through the most damaging possible brexit?

By trying to stop a specific version of brexit they don’t like, they are stopping us from leaving

The politicians knew what they were voting on when the referendum was agreed, and they also knew what they were voting for when article 50 was triggered.

Now let’s get on with it.

"

No. Just trying to stop a no deal brexit.

None of them have enough integrity to stop brexit completely.

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By *dglasgow30TV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

Feck i better go buy all that eu food that we can't get anywhere else like the wee green tomatoes from Spain and loads of Croissants to freeze.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

It seems to me that there is roughly a third of MPs who want to remain, a third want to leave with a deal and a third want leave with or without a deal. That means there will always be a majority against any option and a majority for delaying. This basically means we will be stuck in this limbo forever if we let parliament continually ask for a delay.

Any decision is better than no decision. It's the only way to move forward.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems to me that there is roughly a third of MPs who want to remain, a third want to leave with a deal and a third want leave with or without a deal. That means there will always be a majority against any option and a majority for delaying. This basically means we will be stuck in this limbo forever if we let parliament continually ask for a delay.

Any decision is better than no decision. It's the only way to move forward. "

Well a decision to leave or leave with no deal is a guaranteed backwards move in every sense.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"It seems to me that there is roughly a third of MPs who want to remain, a third want to leave with a deal and a third want leave with or without a deal. That means there will always be a majority against any option and a majority for delaying. This basically means we will be stuck in this limbo forever if we let parliament continually ask for a delay.

Any decision is better than no decision. It's the only way to move forward.

Well a decision to leave or leave with no deal is a guaranteed backwards move in every sense."

Well that’s what the UK voted for buddy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems to me that there is roughly a third of MPs who want to remain, a third want to leave with a deal and a third want leave with or without a deal. That means there will always be a majority against any option and a majority for delaying. This basically means we will be stuck in this limbo forever if we let parliament continually ask for a delay.

Any decision is better than no decision. It's the only way to move forward.

Well a decision to leave or leave with no deal is a guaranteed backwards move in every sense.

Well that’s what the UK voted for buddy "

Ah yes after all that eu money was pumped into South Wales, I guess you would prefer the good old days of Tiger Bay?

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"It seems to me that there is roughly a third of MPs who want to remain, a third want to leave with a deal and a third want leave with or without a deal. That means there will always be a majority against any option and a majority for delaying. This basically means we will be stuck in this limbo forever if we let parliament continually ask for a delay.

Any decision is better than no decision. It's the only way to move forward.

Well a decision to leave or leave with no deal is a guaranteed backwards move in every sense.

Well that’s what the UK voted for buddy

Ah yes after all that eu money was pumped into South Wales, I guess you would prefer the good old days of Tiger Bay? "

Ahh I love Cardiff Bay

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"It seems to me that there is roughly a third of MPs who want to remain, a third want to leave with a deal and a third want leave with or without a deal. That means there will always be a majority against any option and a majority for delaying. This basically means we will be stuck in this limbo forever if we let parliament continually ask for a delay.

Any decision is better than no decision. It's the only way to move forward.

Well a decision to leave or leave with no deal is a guaranteed backwards move in every sense.

Well that’s what the UK voted for buddy

Ah yes after all that eu money was pumped into South Wales, I guess you would prefer the good old days of Tiger Bay?

Ahh I love Cardiff Bay "

Lots of really fit birds there.

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By *exyusMan
over a year ago

halifax

Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal"

The number of people excited for the UK to accelerate the race to the bottom is staggering.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal

The number of people excited for the UK to accelerate the race to the bottom is staggering."

We already had that before we leave sadly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal"

And so what if he said that? He didn't really know what it means to leave the result. How would ordinary people know about this? All they knew were lies from johnson and farage mouth and insignificant knowledge about the EU and how big the business connections between UK and EU are.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

It was all really quite clear

The MPs voted for it

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for."

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal

And so what if he said that? He didn't really know what it means to leave the result. How would ordinary people know about this? All they knew were lies from johnson and farage mouth and insignificant knowledge about the EU and how big the business connections between UK and EU are."

Counteracted by Project fear..

There is nothing to fear

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten."

Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"No way should we stick to the democratic way of life and live by the democratic vote, how silly would that be ,,, aarrgghhh bloody stupid democracy "

Well to stick to a democratic way of life you would first need to have an open, transparent referendum, that wins by a large majority of votes.

Anything less than that, in a democratic way of life, is allowed to be voted upon again. Many countries have re-done elections when the win was not by a big majority or new facts were presented that were not available to people before voting.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten."

The Eu cake is rotten ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"No way should we stick to the democratic way of life and live by the democratic vote, how silly would that be ,,, aarrgghhh bloody stupid democracy

Well to stick to a democratic way of life you would first need to have an open, transparent referendum, that wins by a large majority of votes.

Anything less than that, in a democratic way of life, is allowed to be voted upon again. Many countries have re-done elections when the win was not by a big majority or new facts were presented that were not available to people before voting."

1.5 million people not enough for you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again."

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth. "

No because you didnt have an answer .

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"1.5 million people not enough for you?"

51.89% is not a clear majority to me, its a small majority.

I would accept a small minority as being "democratic lifestyle", if the campaign had no lies, and had a plan people could vote on and hold the government to.

My point is simple, referendums that have been as high as 55% have been redone to clarify issues where one single lie was found before the vote.

But the gap was so close on the vote that in a "democratic world", that alone could have triggered another referendum without one single lie.

All I am saying is, its not anti-democratic to do a referendum twice. The system is built to allow it in nearly every country that practices democracy.

The UK deciding not to re-run the election is a valid stance to have, but doing it again is also a perfectly democratic stance to have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth. No because you didnt have an answer . "

Too simple a question to answer

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal

The number of people excited for the UK to accelerate the race to the bottom is staggering."

It’s staggering you don’t get it yet ,, this is what the uk voted for

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Cameron said a leave vote in the referendum will mean leaving the customs union, leaving the single market and leaving EU legal

HOW CLEAR DOES IT NEED TO BE? leave means no deal! Get on with it and then do a trade deal

And so what if he said that? He didn't really know what it means to leave the result. How would ordinary people know about this? All they knew were lies from johnson and farage mouth and insignificant knowledge about the EU and how big the business connections between UK and EU are."

Yawn, get over it we are leaving like we voted for

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth. "

That would be a first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

That would be a first"

Cool that you think you're funny. But the truth is completely different.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

That would be a first

Cool that you think you're funny. But the truth is completely different. "

Strange that you mentioned truth as it seems like you don’t know the meaning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

That would be a first

Cool that you think you're funny. But the truth is completely different.

Strange that you mentioned truth as it seems like you don’t know the meaning "

I know the meaning of truth very well but it is not the same as your heroes think about it. And probably you. There is no point in discussing with someone who does not know the meaning of the basic words.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

That would be a first

Cool that you think you're funny. But the truth is completely different.

Strange that you mentioned truth as it seems like you don’t know the meaning

I know the meaning of truth very well but it is not the same as your heroes think about it. And probably you. There is no point in discussing with someone who does not know the meaning of the basic words. "

Awwww hope your ok sounds like someone is feeling a little fragile, and for you yes your right there is no point you discussing with me, save yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

That would be a first

Cool that you think you're funny. But the truth is completely different.

Strange that you mentioned truth as it seems like you don’t know the meaning

I know the meaning of truth very well but it is not the same as your heroes think about it. And probably you. There is no point in discussing with someone who does not know the meaning of the basic words.

Awwww hope your ok sounds like someone is feeling a little fragile, and for you yes your right there is no point you discussing with me, save yourself "

Yeah yeah yeah. Who really cares if anyone is fragile or not? The truth is important and it is simply not on your side. Save yourself if you can of course.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Any mp who voted to trigger article 50 knew what they were voting for and if they didn't they shouldn't be in the job.Now they are up in arms for something they voted for.

Did I write something about MPs? No. Did I write something about triggering article 50? No. I wrote about ordinary people who do not yet realize what this cake is and certainly this cake is rotten.Why do you think that my post was directed at you? are you trying to wind me up so you can get me banned for the 3rd time sorry sunshine wont work again.

I didn't mean it. Where did this idea come from? Probably because I wrote the truth.

That would be a first

Cool that you think you're funny. But the truth is completely different.

Strange that you mentioned truth as it seems like you don’t know the meaning

I know the meaning of truth very well but it is not the same as your heroes think about it. And probably you. There is no point in discussing with someone who does not know the meaning of the basic words.

Awwww hope your ok sounds like someone is feeling a little fragile, and for you yes your right there is no point you discussing with me, save yourself

Yeah yeah yeah. Who really cares if anyone is fragile or not? The truth is important and it is simply not on your side. Save yourself if you can of course."

Ok ok it’s bed time now, you take it easy ok it’s been a loooooooong day let’s see what tomorrow brings and hopefully the truth fairy had left some facts for you under the pillow, good night and sleep tight x

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth OYO Hotel


"When a second vote was first mooywd, everyone was up in arms about the question... Especially about splitting the leave vote.

Now hard core Brexiteers are saying no deal is the only true version of Brexit (shame they weren't that clear during the referendum)

And if Boris can't solve the Irish problem in 30 days, and it comes to pass the onky solution which can be put in place today is some kind of custom arrangement...

Then is there any choice buy to have no deal versus remain?

"

Well if I remember right, we were told "This is it! A one time for all time vote! In or out. We will implement what you decide!"

I think a law might even have been passed to make the final decision up to the people.

Everything was debated and laid out at length before hand and it was abundantly clear that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market and the rest, and the choices were to Remain in the EU or Leave the EU.

They were saying this because they were fully expecting a remain vote, so wanted to make it clear that was it.

When it surprisingly didn't go their way, that was when all that changed and the relentless non-stop attack train left the station in haste, and has been ploughing on at full speed every single day in the media for over 3 years to try to browbeat people into submission.

Then we started hearing "it was only advisory" "People voting remain knew what they were voting for, but leave voters didn't, so we have to do it again and again and again until we can finally turn up a remain result".

As well as all the abuse and ungracious horrific ugly behaviour to be expected of those suffering from Severe Narcisstic Personality Disorder, who are always right and have to shut down anyone who feels differently.

In short, I think a vote to leave was a vote for no-deal by default?

Are there many people who voted Leave who "didn't know what they were voting for?" Is there a possibility the reason no-one is coming forward to state so is because there isn't really anybody (rather than unsubstantiated theories they're all hiding)?

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"When a second vote was first mooywd, everyone was up in arms about the question... Especially about splitting the leave vote.

Now hard core Brexiteers are saying no deal is the only true version of Brexit (shame they weren't that clear during the referendum)

And if Boris can't solve the Irish problem in 30 days, and it comes to pass the onky solution which can be put in place today is some kind of custom arrangement...

Then is there any choice buy to have no deal versus remain?

Well if I remember right, we were told "This is it! A one time for all time vote! In or out. We will implement what you decide!"

I think a law might even have been passed to make the final decision up to the people.

Everything was debated and laid out at length before hand and it was abundantly clear that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market and the rest, and the choices were to Remain in the EU or Leave the EU.

They were saying this because they were fully expecting a remain vote, so wanted to make it clear that was it.

When it surprisingly didn't go their way, that was when all that changed and the relentless non-stop attack train left the station in haste, and has been ploughing on at full speed every single day in the media for over 3 years to try to browbeat people into submission.

Then we started hearing "it was only advisory" "People voting remain knew what they were voting for, but leave voters didn't, so we have to do it again and again and again until we can finally turn up a remain result".

As well as all the abuse and ungracious horrific ugly behaviour to be expected of those suffering from Severe Narcisstic Personality Disorder, who are always right and have to shut down anyone who feels differently.

In short, I think a vote to leave was a vote for no-deal by default?

Are there many people who voted Leave who "didn't know what they were voting for?" Is there a possibility the reason no-one is coming forward to state so is because there isn't really anybody (rather than unsubstantiated theories they're all hiding)?"

There is so much incorrect here it's hard to know where to start.

For example the referendum was always advisory. Had it not been then the vote would have been legally overturned already because of wrong doing.

Also, plenty of people have come forward. You're just ignoring them because it's more convenient.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It was advisory.

Plenty of leavers were suggesting we could go down models like Switzerland, Norway, etc

Vote leave said taking back control is a careful change... With terms of a new deal to be negotiated (in fairness they said they'd do this before starting the keagk process to leave... To counter that, that was a route that couldn't be taken)

No deal onky became a default when MP's made it so (imo with no mandate given most stood on how they'd get the best deal)

It's one of lifes ironies leavers wantvto use a backstop because they don't like a backstop. It also shows why the eu is right to concentrate forts on what happens if no solutions are found in a very short period. If only our MP's had given it such thought...

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