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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now?

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By *il FiskMan
over a year ago

sefton

She's shown how useless she is because of this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people should judge the value of the Queen on more than this afternoon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well this diverts the media nicely from her son doesn't it?

But in all seriousness I think she had little choice to make that decision. She's not going to be the direct cause of the inevitable constitutional crisis that is looming. And I say that as a remainer who'do gladly see the back of the royals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those who wish to see the end of the Monarchy, is a President going to be:

a. Cheaper.

b. as much of a tourist attraction.

c. look as good on a stamp.

Given how much America spends on protection for every living ex president, and the fact that people with enough money (i.e. Trump) can get elected, would we really benefit from replacing a Constitutional Figurehead who generally goes along with whatever the Prime Minister of the day says, with an elected representative who may actively work against the Prime Minister?

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? "
is it a waste or a huge business interest. The amount of money brought in by torrisum due to a monarchy far out strips the cost

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think people should judge the value of the Queen on more than this afternoon. "

Yes by last 50 years of waste of space

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Well this diverts the media nicely from her son doesn't it?

But in all seriousness I think she had little choice to make that decision. She's not going to be the direct cause of the inevitable constitutional crisis that is looming. And I say that as a remainer who'do gladly see the back of the royals"

Exactly! She didn’t so pointless

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"For those who wish to see the end of the Monarchy, is a President going to be:

a. Cheaper.

b. as much of a tourist attraction.

c. look as good on a stamp.

Given how much America spends on protection for every living ex president, and the fact that people with enough money (i.e. Trump) can get elected, would we really benefit from replacing a Constitutional Figurehead who generally goes along with whatever the Prime Minister of the day says, with an elected representative who may actively work against the Prime Minister?"

1 yes

2 even more so! See Tower of London!

3 pugsy

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Give Chas a go

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? is it a waste or a huge business interest. The amount of money brought in by torrisum due to a monarchy far out strips the cost "

Oh dear

Top ten uk attractions?

Only one royal related...tower of London! Who lives there???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like bohemian rapsody

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? is it a waste or a huge business interest. The amount of money brought in by torrisum due to a monarchy far out strips the cost

Oh dear

Top ten uk attractions?

Only one royal related...tower of London! Who lives there???"

The ghosts of many beheaded people

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? is it a waste or a huge business interest. The amount of money brought in by torrisum due to a monarchy far out strips the cost

Oh dear

Top ten uk attractions?

Only one royal related...tower of London! Who lives there???"
not the attractions just having a monarchy is enough

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Who, just who comes to London or England to ‘see’ the queen? The tourist line is always trotted out & has no validity, it is history which does include a monarchy that draws them in.. no one goes to Egypt beacause they might see Tutankhamun, but they go to see the pyramids.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? is it a waste or a huge business interest. The amount of money brought in by torrisum due to a monarchy far out strips the cost

Oh dear

Top ten uk attractions?

Only one royal related...tower of London! Who lives there??? not the attractions just having a monarchy is enough "

That makes no sense

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? is it a waste or a huge business interest. The amount of money brought in by torrisum due to a monarchy far out strips the cost

Oh dear

Top ten uk attractions?

Only one royal related...tower of London! Who lives there???

The ghosts of many beheaded people "

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just keep playing the game. What would we do with her otherwise.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

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"Who, just who comes to London or England to ‘see’ the queen? The tourist line is always trotted out & has no validity, it is history which does include a monarchy that draws them in.. no one goes to Egypt beacause they might see Tutankhamun, but they go to see the pyramids."

Or maybe because they want to walk like an Egyptian

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just keep playing the game. What would we do with her otherwise. "

Not be subjects? Have 8 billion quid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could always move to a country with no monarchy. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just keep playing the game. What would we do with her otherwise.

Not be subjects? Have 8 billion quid? "

I dont feel particulary subjected.

The money wouldnt see the light of day either.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Just keep playing the game. What would we do with her otherwise.

Not be subjects? Have 8 billion quid? "

At least she could have looked in her purse and got a couple of quid out to chuck at Bolton and Bury FC then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just keep playing the game. What would we do with her otherwise.

Not be subjects? Have 8 billion quid?

At least she could have looked in her purse and got a couple of quid out to chuck at Bolton and Bury FC then? "

But she would if it was rugby union!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d still give her my last rolo.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

I dislike Royalty a lot

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

I don't mind them really..they've always been there. I quite like having a bit of history about us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I quite like the royals ... Dont think they do much wrong. Again because we dont agree with something it means it's wrong?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I quite like the royals ... Dont think they do much wrong. Again because we dont agree with something it means it's wrong?"

I’m guessing you don’t know them or met them so thinking they ok is Er...guess?

I don’t know them either but I do know they are no better than us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I quite like the royals ... Dont think they do much wrong. Again because we dont agree with something it means it's wrong?

I’m guessing you don’t know them or met them so thinking they ok is Er...guess?

I don’t know them either but I do know they are no better than us "

Nope not met them ... or know them ! I like tradition that's all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Queen is a self preserving toff who doesn’t even want to take her gloves off in case she might catch something off us

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I quite like the royals ... Dont think they do much wrong. Again because we dont agree with something it means it's wrong?

I’m guessing you don’t know them or met them so thinking they ok is Er...guess?

I don’t know them either but I do know they are no better than us

Nope not met them ... or know them ! I like tradition that's all "

Tradition is ...what?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The Queen is a self preserving toff who doesn’t even want to take her gloves off in case she might catch something off us "

This!! Lol or what is hip!’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Queen is a self preserving toff who doesn’t even want to take her gloves off in case she might catch something off us

This!! Lol or what is hip!’ "

Do you agree

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The Queen is a self preserving toff who doesn’t even want to take her gloves off in case she might catch something off us

This!! Lol or what is hip!’

Do you agree"

I concur!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I quite like the royals ... Dont think they do much wrong. Again because we dont agree with something it means it's wrong?

I’m guessing you don’t know them or met them so thinking they ok is Er...guess?

I don’t know them either but I do know they are no better than us

Nope not met them ... or know them ! I like tradition that's all

Tradition is ...what? "

Keeping our britishness ... Its a personal opinion not everyone has to agree

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

The queen is just the physical representation of the monarchy. The firm will eventually recognise that it's in trouble and creak into action to try and ensure it's continuation with a suitable figurehead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness "

Only 8 billion quid!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

Only 8 billion quid!! "

Just 8 billion wow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d give her one.

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley


"Well this diverts the media nicely from her son doesn't it?

But in all seriousness I think she had little choice to make that decision. She's not going to be the direct cause of the inevitable constitutional crisis that is looming. And I say that as a remainer who'do gladly see the back of the royals"

I’m in a similar position, ie remainer who has some understanding of constitutional history. Last time a monarch ignored advice of Prime minister was Queen Anne in 1705 (or thereabouts)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well this diverts the media nicely from her son doesn't it?

But in all seriousness I think she had little choice to make that decision. She's not going to be the direct cause of the inevitable constitutional crisis that is looming. And I say that as a remainer who'do gladly see the back of the royals

I’m in a similar position, ie remainer who has some understanding of constitutional history. Last time a monarch ignored advice of Prime minister was Queen Anne in 1705 (or thereabouts)"

And that's the whole point that this thread is missing, the protocol is just that - a protocol, she's a figurehead and was never going to step up. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by that

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bingley


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? "
what's she done ?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not. "

You like them ! You know them! They all ok? Ones you don’t like?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not. "

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Who actually owns the whole of the United Kingdom? The Queen does, by right of conquest and inheritance. What do you think “Freehold” actually means? Answer: held for the monarch rent-free. So add up all of the freehold property values in the United Kingdom. The total has to be astronomical. London’s West End alone is worth billions.

Who is the head of all of the armed forces in Great Britain? Answer: the monarch.

Who owns all of the currency in circulation? Answer: the monarch – that’s why her head is on all of our coins and notes.

Who has the final say in whether each and every new law is legal? You all know that now.

Who owns all of the land between low and high tides? Guess!

Who owns all of the swans?

And there must be a lot more.

The Queen is, in theory, the richest person in the world by a very long way – even richer than the Kings of Saudi Arabia and Thailand. And she is one of the top ten most powerful people in the world. Our armed forces are far superior to Saudi’s and Thailand’s.

And she’s all ours!

All of this is “theoretical”, and the popular media keep quiet about it. But there could come a time when a monarch decides to exercise all of his rights and powers, including the dissolution of Parliament. He would be an EXTREMELY powerful dictator. (Head of the armed forces – remember?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? "

The VAT on all the things tourists coming to London far exceeds the cost on its own so in reality it isn't. I am not a royalist but its far from a waste of money.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not.

You like them ! You know them! They all ok? Ones you don’t like? "

Do you know them? Everyone slags them off and they know fuck all about them except what they read in the media, regardless of what you think of them, they are still people.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Given how much America spends on protection for every living ex president,"

But the US does not have a prime minister, so the price of protecting the President of the UK would be the same as the Prime Minister of the UK.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I personally love the royal family and think that Her Majesty does an exceptional job... to be fair I'd love the queen to tell parliament she has had enough of all this and she will sort it herself.

I recently took my granddaughters to London and all they wanted to do was go to Buckingham palace... Windsor castle and other royal palaces.. those that say the Royal family do nothing should try being them for a bit. How many ladies of the queens age still work the hours she does???

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not.

You like them ! You know them! They all ok? Ones you don’t like?

Do you know them? Everyone slags them off and they know fuck all about them except what they read in the media, regardless of what you think of them, they are still people. "

I think it's like saying you like or dislike a particular celebrity. Very few people actually know them personally but they can form and are entitled to hold an opinion on their public persona.

I like Queen Elizabeth 1st and intensely dislike Henry 8th but I unsurprisingly, didn't know either of them

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not.

You like them ! You know them! They all ok? Ones you don’t like?

Do you know them? Everyone slags them off and they know fuck all about them except what they read in the media, regardless of what you think of them, they are still people.

I think it's like saying you like or dislike a particular celebrity. Very few people actually know them personally but they can form and are entitled to hold an opinion on their public persona.

I like Queen Elizabeth 1st and intensely dislike Henry 8th but I unsurprisingly, didn't know either of them "

That was kind of my point, everyone slags them off but they haven't got a clue what they are really like.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"How many ladies of the queens age still work the hours she does??? "

All the ones who get paid what she gets paid and the perks she gets still work at her age.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not.

You like them ! You know them! They all ok? Ones you don’t like?

Do you know them? Everyone slags them off and they know fuck all about them except what they read in the media, regardless of what you think of them, they are still people.

I think it's like saying you like or dislike a particular celebrity. Very few people actually know them personally but they can form and are entitled to hold an opinion on their public persona.

I like Queen Elizabeth 1st and intensely dislike Henry 8th but I unsurprisingly, didn't know either of them

That was kind of my point, everyone slags them off but they haven't got a clue what they are really like. "

I quite often wonder what they're really like. They can no more help the circumstances they were born into than the rest of us can so on that I have some sympathy for them.

What I don't like or agree with is the almost sacred status they hold e.g. staff at places they visit being told they must not offer their hand to shake unless the royal visitor does. I also really dislike their privilege, for example William and Kate looking distressed at a charity visit before being ushered into a chauffeured car and driven back to immense wealth and comfort. It doesn't sit well with me however nice they are in person

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I like our Royal family, I honestly don't care if people agree with me or not.

You like them ! You know them! They all ok? Ones you don’t like?

Do you know them? Everyone slags them off and they know fuck all about them except what they read in the media, regardless of what you think of them, they are still people.

I think it's like saying you like or dislike a particular celebrity. Very few people actually know them personally but they can form and are entitled to hold an opinion on their public persona.

I like Queen Elizabeth 1st and intensely dislike Henry 8th but I unsurprisingly, didn't know either of them

That was kind of my point, everyone slags them off but they haven't got a clue what they are really like.

I quite often wonder what they're really like. They can no more help the circumstances they were born into than the rest of us can so on that I have some sympathy for them.

What I don't like or agree with is the almost sacred status they hold e.g. staff at places they visit being told they must not offer their hand to shake unless the royal visitor does. I also really dislike their privilege, for example William and Kate looking distressed at a charity visit before being ushered into a chauffeured car and driven back to immense wealth and comfort. It doesn't sit well with me however nice they are in person"

The handshake thing is more tradition I think. I also think if any of us had immense wealth, comfort, privilege, we wouldn't be complaining and would not like being slagged off repeatedly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have seen the BBC news, I am not in the least bit surprised by BJ and his actions. But the monarchy are servants of parliament so the queen had no choice but to agree, the request is not out of the normal anyway as parliament generally takes time off from July until October.

But I like having a royal family, it makes for some quirky interesting stuff in the UK, and they are pretty much free of charge as well as keeping a hell of a lot of people employed either directly or indirectly.

Having the queen means we don't have to elect a Britain Trump!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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But I like having a royal family, it makes for some quirky interesting stuff in the UK, and they are pretty much free of charge as well as keeping a hell of a lot of people employed either directly or indirectly.

Having the queen means we don't have to elect a Britain Trump! "

We've got our own Trump and the royals aren't free of charge. I'm kind of begrudgingly OK with the latter of those two...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Her priority is self-protection and ensuring the continuation of the monarchy. Expecting anything else is unrealistic

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By *ay4realstr8TV/TS
over a year ago

hoyland

Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! "

Here here . GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, hip hip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! "

I’d give her a pay rise after what she’s done today ! These useless politicians can’t even agree to leave after we the people voted to leave(sorry not you Boris) no deal

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By *ay4realstr8TV/TS
over a year ago

hoyland


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

Here here . GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, hip hip "

Hooray!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! "

How does the queen make me British?

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By *ay4realstr8TV/TS
over a year ago

hoyland


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

How does the queen make me British?"

quintessentially

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

I miss them

Great music

RIP Freddie

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Sorry only queen I am aware of

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I personally love the royal family and think that Her Majesty does an exceptional job... to be fair I'd love the queen to tell parliament she has had enough of all this and she will sort it herself.

I recently took my granddaughters to London and all they wanted to do was go to Buckingham palace... Windsor castle and other royal palaces.. those that say the Royal family do nothing should try being them for a bit. How many ladies of the queens age still work the hours she does??? "

The ones in the food banks & charity shops...and to prove my point your Granddaughters looked at historical buildings, not the Queen, we don't need her r the other hangers on to make tourist dollars.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I have seen the BBC news, I am not in the least bit surprised by BJ and his actions. But the monarchy are servants of parliament so the queen had no choice but to agree, the request is not out of the normal anyway as parliament generally takes time off from July until October.

But I like having a royal family, it makes for some quirky interesting stuff in the UK, and they are pretty much free of charge as well as keeping a hell of a lot of people employed either directly or indirectly.

Having the queen means we don't have to elect a Britain Trump! "

Back to work today after holiday..think I will ask my boss if I can just 'suspend' that until ooooh maybe October?

that will work..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! "
the only reason we get tourists oh wait i thought we wanted rid of foreigners im confused

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By *ay4realstr8TV/TS
over a year ago

hoyland


"Leave her the hell alone! She’s one of the only remaining thing left that makes us bloody British, other country's love the royals! And so do i. She causes no harm, she’s a lovely british lady! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! the only reason we get tourists oh wait i thought we wanted rid of foreigners im confused "

At least tourists go home!!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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Nope.

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough


"

Back to work today after holiday..think I will ask my boss if I can just 'suspend' that until ooooh maybe October?

that will work.."

I'm sure he'll agree and pay you fully just like our MPs.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"People must now realise head of state is just a waste of money now? "

The Royal Family are a symbolic entity with no real power in modern politics. They do however bring a lot of money and tourism into the country.

The money that they get "paid" is actually money given back to them from the MUCH larger sum of money that The Crown Estate gives to the country. They have an agreed percentage of the total income that is returned to them (20% possibility)

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

2018 royal work statistics: who’s been busy, who’s been busier

royal rankings, by total number of engagements:

1. Prince Charles

2. Princess Anne

3. Prince Edward

4. Prince Andrew

5. Queen Elizabeth II

6. Sophie, Countess of Wessex

7. Duke of Gloucester

8. Prince William

9. Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall

10. Prince Harry

11. Duke of Kent

12. Meghan, Duchess of Sussex

13. Duchess of Gloucester

14. Kate, Duchess of Cambridge

15. Princess Alexandra of Kent

In 2018 the Queen completed 293 Royal Engagements, and she came 5th.

She’s 27 years past the usual retirement age.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The Queen is just the figurehead. Boris has prorogued Parliament.

I am very pro Europe and pro European but the squabbling is increasingly ridiculous amongst MPs.. Get us in or get us out ASAP.

God Save the Queen.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Love the Queen, amazing lady

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Love the Queen, amazing lady "

Didn’t know you had met her! She smell like Murray mints?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Love the Queen, amazing lady

Didn’t know you had met her! She smell like Murray mints? "
,

Don't think I said I have met her, have you?

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

...but that tourism would still be there without them, they are still a luxury when we ‘can’t’ afford vital stuff...or won’t afford.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I wonder how much we spend on the monarchy compared to Foreign Aid. Bizarre to me that we have food banks yet give away billions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I wonder how much we spend on the monarchy compared to Foreign Aid. Bizarre to me that we have food banks yet give away billions."

0.7% gdp. Nothing really a spit in the ocean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm far from a royalist, but she had no other option. The monarchy cannot be seen to overrule the elected Government of the day. I'm glad at least someone in this whole shameful debacle upholds democracy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm far from a royalist, but she had no other option. The monarchy cannot be seen to overrule the elected Government of the day. I'm glad at least someone in this whole shameful debacle upholds democracy. "

Exactly. A waste of space. Nothing the position does deserves our 8 billion pounds!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm far from a royalist, but she had no other option. The monarchy cannot be seen to overrule the elected Government of the day. I'm glad at least someone in this whole shameful debacle upholds democracy.

Exactly. A waste of space. Nothing the position does deserves our 8 billion pounds! "

I don't believe they are a waste of space. They play a difference role than Parliament/Government but it doesn't mean they are worthless.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Personally I've nothing against the Queen . If all our MPS were as dutiful and respectful as her , we wouldnt be in such a mess !!

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs

She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson "
Why ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??"

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless

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By *hebritukCouple
over a year ago

London

We are not royalist, but the thought of a President like Trump as an option Does any anyone remember Votes for English law should not include Scottish MPs. Now we have the DUP, all 10 of them, dragging us into the abyss!

We think we should give Northern Ireland independence. That will solve a lot of problems and force them to resolve their differences!!!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless "
At least hes getting shit done wether good or bad

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Love the Queen, amazing lady

Didn’t know you had met her! She smell like Murray mints? "
I have twice... once as a girl guide and once at the royal variety performance. Both times she took time to talk to every one.

Oh I met her 3 times but i was only a babe in arms the first time

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bingley


"Given how much America spends on protection for every living ex president,

But the US does not have a prime minister, so the price of protecting the President of the UK would be the same as the Prime Minister of the UK."
does the us president and UK prime minister not so the same job ...

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bingley


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless At least hes getting shit done wether good or bad "
but without doing what hes done and the queen allowing him to do it ... labour would stil be trying to block every potential move he tries to make like they did with Theresa may .

They go on complaing about all this but if they hadn't blocked her in the first place we would of been out with a deal ages ago

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"I quite like the royals ... Dont think they do much wrong. Again because we dont agree with something it means it's wrong?"

True, Prince Andrew is just a misjudged romantic..

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless At least hes getting shit done wether good or bad but without doing what hes done and the queen allowing him to do it ... labour would stil be trying to block every potential move he tries to make like they did with Theresa may .

They go on complaing about all this but if they hadn't blocked her in the first place we would of been out with a deal ages ago "
But it didnt , so we are where we are , not Boris's fault !!

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By *ieandteaseMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire


"Who actually owns the whole of the United Kingdom? The Queen does, by right of conquest and inheritance. What do you think “Freehold” actually means? Answer: held for the monarch rent-free. So add up all of the freehold property values in the United Kingdom. The total has to be astronomical. London’s West End alone is worth billions.

Who is the head of all of the armed forces in Great Britain? Answer: the monarch.

Who owns all of the currency in circulation? Answer: the monarch – that’s why her head is on all of our coins and notes.

Who has the final say in whether each and every new law is legal? You all know that now.

Who owns all of the land between low and high tides? Guess!

Who owns all of the swans?

And there must be a lot more.

The Queen is, in theory, the richest person in the world by a very long way – even richer than the Kings of Saudi Arabia and Thailand. And she is one of the top ten most powerful people in the world. Our armed forces are far superior to Saudi’s and Thailand’s.

And she’s all ours!

All of this is “theoretical”, and the popular media keep quiet about it. But there could come a time when a monarch decides to exercise all of his rights and powers, including the dissolution of Parliament. He would be an EXTREMELY powerful dictator. (Head of the armed forces – remember?)

"

Ah yes the aircraft-less carriers, destroyers that break down, a handful of tanks, helicopters now twice the age of their pilots and still the same Hooray Henry officer class throughout. The British armed forces, the rest of the world's laugh.

They're hardly the New Model Army man.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless At least hes getting shit done wether good or bad but without doing what hes done and the queen allowing him to do it ... labour would stil be trying to block every potential move he tries to make like they did with Theresa may .

They go on complaing about all this but if they hadn't blocked her in the first place we would of been out with a deal ages ago But it didnt , so we are where we are , not Boris's fault !!"

What?? One of the biggest instigators and liars to persuade people on a Feckin whim! A total con man, proven liar who failed as foreign secretary!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I'm far from a royalist, but she had no other option. The monarchy cannot be seen to overrule the elected Government of the day. I'm glad at least someone in this whole shameful debacle upholds democracy.

Exactly. A waste of space. Nothing the position does deserves our 8 billion pounds! "

Where's the "8 billion" figure come from? Is it per annum, or from the dawn of time?

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By *ustme34Man
over a year ago

Bingley


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless At least hes getting shit done wether good or bad but without doing what hes done and the queen allowing him to do it ... labour would stil be trying to block every potential move he tries to make like they did with Theresa may .

They go on complaing about all this but if they hadn't blocked her in the first place we would of been out with a deal ages ago But it didnt , so we are where we are , not Boris's fault !!"
its not his fault it's the fault of all those who opposed may to begin with instead of letting her do her job weather people want in or out a deal has to be done rather than getting a no deal exit

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

He’s a delicate twat. She’s just a waste of space...not personally as I don’t know her but position is pointless At least hes getting shit done wether good or bad but without doing what hes done and the queen allowing him to do it ... labour would stil be trying to block every potential move he tries to make like they did with Theresa may .

They go on complaing about all this but if they hadn't blocked her in the first place we would of been out with a deal ages ago But it didnt , so we are where we are , not Boris's fault !!

What?? One of the biggest instigators and liars to persuade people on a Feckin whim! A total con man, proven liar who failed as foreign secretary! "
Name me an honest MP ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Who actually owns the whole of the United Kingdom? The Queen does, by right of conquest and inheritance. What do you think “Freehold” actually means? Answer: held for the monarch rent-free. So add up all of the freehold property values in the United Kingdom. The total has to be astronomical. London’s West End alone is worth billions.

Who is the head of all of the armed forces in Great Britain? Answer: the monarch.

Who owns all of the currency in circulation? Answer: the monarch – that’s why her head is on all of our coins and notes.

Who has the final say in whether each and every new law is legal? You all know that now.

Who owns all of the land between low and high tides? Guess!

Who owns all of the swans?

And there must be a lot more.

The Queen is, in theory, the richest person in the world by a very long way – even richer than the Kings of Saudi Arabia and Thailand. And she is one of the top ten most powerful people in the world. Our armed forces are far superior to Saudi’s and Thailand’s.

And she’s all ours!

All of this is “theoretical”, and the popular media keep quiet about it. But there could come a time when a monarch decides to exercise all of his rights and powers, including the dissolution of Parliament. He would be an EXTREMELY powerful dictator. (Head of the armed forces – remember?)

Ah yes the aircraft-less carriers, destroyers that break down, a handful of tanks, helicopters now twice the age of their pilots and still the same Hooray Henry officer class throughout. The British armed forces, the rest of the world's laugh.

They're hardly the New Model Army man. "

And redundant soldiers homeless in the street! Thanks fellas while I’m having the best of everything!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Who actually owns the whole of the United Kingdom? The Queen does, by right of conquest and inheritance. What do you think “Freehold” actually means? Answer: held for the monarch rent-free. So add up all of the freehold property values in the United Kingdom. The total has to be astronomical. London’s West End alone is worth billions.

Who is the head of all of the armed forces in Great Britain? Answer: the monarch.

Who owns all of the currency in circulation? Answer: the monarch – that’s why her head is on all of our coins and notes.

Who has the final say in whether each and every new law is legal? You all know that now.

Who owns all of the land between low and high tides? Guess!

Who owns all of the swans?

And there must be a lot more.

The Queen is, in theory, the richest person in the world by a very long way – even richer than the Kings of Saudi Arabia and Thailand. And she is one of the top ten most powerful people in the world. Our armed forces are far superior to Saudi’s and Thailand’s.

And she’s all ours!

All of this is “theoretical”, and the popular media keep quiet about it. But there could come a time when a monarch decides to exercise all of his rights and powers, including the dissolution of Parliament. He would be an EXTREMELY powerful dictator. (Head of the armed forces – remember?)

Ah yes the aircraft-less carriers, destroyers that break down, a handful of tanks, helicopters now twice the age of their pilots and still the same Hooray Henry officer class throughout. The British armed forces, the rest of the world's laugh.

They're hardly the New Model Army man. "

Guessing they wouldn't let you in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They go on complaing about all this but if they hadn't blocked her in the first place we would of been out with a deal ages ago "

The deal on the table is we have no sovereignty over our fishing rights, we give the EU more money than we currently do, we can't negotiate trade deals with anyone except the EU and we can't actually leave unless or until the EU says we can.

Not much of a deal at all really!

Labour has a duty to oppose the government, that's why it is called the opposition! It may be a stupid system but it is how it is. The difference is many conservatives and most other parties are voting against the government too, otherwise it would win.

BJ is probably right the only way out is to just leave, that way he can save the payments to the EU to prop up his shareholder mates as their companies collapse so only unimportant people can't afford food or housing

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??"

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Can I also point out that any exit, deal or no deal is not the end, it is the beginning .. this isn’t going anywhere anytime soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I also point out that any exit, deal or no deal is not the end, it is the beginning .. this isn’t going anywhere anytime soon "

Welcome to the hotel California

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All of this talk about boris saving the £39 billion is shite! We own the money for outstanding commitments that we singed up for.

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By *ait88Man
over a year ago

Plymouth


"Ah yes the aircraft-less carriers, destroyers that break down, a handful of tanks, helicopters now twice the age of their pilots and still the same Hooray Henry officer class throughout. The British armed forces, the rest of the world's laugh.

They're hardly the New Model Army man. "

And the best Special Forces in the world and her nuclear weapons. Not too funny, those! Have you any idea about what goes on in the Porton Down weapons facility? How about the GCHQ in Cheltenham? Lots of laughs about those two.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

"

You sound like an anarchist OP. Some papers are calling this the death of democracy. Democracy died when MPs decided to go against the referendum result.. would you reverse that and march the Monarch to the gallows. She has served this country well for decades and please do not make her a scapegoat..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

You sound like an anarchist OP. Some papers are calling this the death of democracy. Democracy died when MPs decided to go against the referendum result.. would you reverse that and march the Monarch to the gallows. She has served this country well for decades and please do not make her a scapegoat.."

Democracy to not let mps decide? Really ? Democratic to have unelected head of state? House of Lords? A referendum that was advisory only? A referendum going against original referendum? An unelected mp in a government that had to buy Irish support? Really????

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"

Democracy to not let mps decide? Really ? Democratic to have unelected head of state? House of Lords? A referendum that was advisory only? A referendum going against original referendum? An unelected mp in a government that had to buy Irish support? Really???? "

Calm down dear...

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Can I also point out that any exit, deal or no deal is not the end, it is the beginning .. this isn’t going anywhere anytime soon "

^ this ^

We are on the inside, trying to get out.

On Nov 1, we are on the outside, trying to get in.

Article 50 is dead. Article 218 applies.

Bad debts, included.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Whatever happens and whatever course this country takes there will be some turbulence.. the mongers of doom and soothsayers will have their say on both sides.. some will march, some will be content and some will dawdle along airport corridors on their hols oblivious..

Some will call for the abolition of the monarchy as if it's her fault.. I am pro Europe but I respect the democratic vote old the referendum.. I am not an anarchist. This is still a good country to live in..

Shortages of goods will be short lived..

Royalty is not doomed yet..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

Only 8 billion quid!! "

Where did this figure come from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm disappointed.

I was never much of a Royalist. I wouldn't better an eyelid if we gave them up and just maintained the properties for the public from now on.

I've no strong view on Brexit either way.

Just disappointed she didn't tell all the politicians to fuck off and do their jobs. The only job most of them have ever known, debating shit they've no real life experience in.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm disappointed.

I was never much of a Royalist. I wouldn't better an eyelid if we gave them up and just maintained the properties for the public from now on.

I've no strong view on Brexit either way.

Just disappointed she didn't tell all the politicians to fuck off and do their jobs. The only job most of them have ever known, debating shit they've no real life experience in. "

Think most are doing their jobs which is to not make the country worse off

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

Only 8 billion quid!!

Where did this figure come from?"

It’s what she’s worth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm disappointed.

I was never much of a Royalist. I wouldn't better an eyelid if we gave them up and just maintained the properties for the public from now on.

I've no strong view on Brexit either way.

Just disappointed she didn't tell all the politicians to fuck off and do their jobs. The only job most of them have ever known, debating shit they've no real life experience in.

Think most are doing their jobs which is to not make the country worse off"

I disagree wholeheartedly

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By *ay4realstr8TV/TS
over a year ago

hoyland

Oh shut up already! “Hums national anthem really loud” !!! GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She’s the last queen

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

Only 8 billion quid!!

Where did this figure come from?

It’s what she’s worth "

You know that the country wouldn't get that money, right?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Think the OP is on the wind up on this one...

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

You sound like an anarchist OP. Some papers are calling this the death of democracy. Democracy died when MPs decided to go against the referendum result.. would you reverse that and march the Monarch to the gallows. She has served this country well for decades and please do not make her a scapegoat.."

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

Only 8 billion quid!!

Where did this figure come from?

It’s what she’s worth

You know that the country wouldn't get that money, right? "

You know it should be the countries right?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm disappointed.

I was never much of a Royalist. I wouldn't better an eyelid if we gave them up and just maintained the properties for the public from now on.

I've no strong view on Brexit either way.

Just disappointed she didn't tell all the politicians to fuck off and do their jobs. The only job most of them have ever known, debating shit they've no real life experience in.

Think most are doing their jobs which is to not make the country worse off

I disagree wholeheartedly "

How? Idiots trying to leave with no deal, no plan, no idea! MPs stopping it is their job, in fact their duty.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Sick to death of the queen . I am sure the money she and other royals get could wipe out food banks and homelessness

Only 8 billion quid!!

Where did this figure come from?

It’s what she’s worth

You know that the country wouldn't get that money, right?

You know it should be the countries right?"

Ok, tell me how property, money, jewels she inherited should belong to the country, those are hers. It doesn't matter if you don't like the monarchy, those things belong to her. She's had gifts given to her that belong to her, all this adds up to what she's worth and none of that belongs to the country.

What is your problem? Seriously?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I'm disappointed.

I was never much of a Royalist. I wouldn't better an eyelid if we gave them up and just maintained the properties for the public from now on.

I've no strong view on Brexit either way.

Just disappointed she didn't tell all the politicians to fuck off and do their jobs. The only job most of them have ever known, debating shit they've no real life experience in.

Think most are doing their jobs which is to not make the country worse off

I disagree wholeheartedly

How? Idiots trying to leave with no deal, no plan, no idea! MPs stopping it is their job, in fact their duty. "

And the referendum ? To ignore that is a dictator's position. You know what's best for everyone else ? No wonder populism is on the rise in Europe. Just keep telling people what they want and ignore what they tell you they really want.

And everytime there is an election let's just keep voting and stop when you get the result you want.. just saying.. and I am pro Europe, pro European but I don't like dictators ...

And I love our Queen

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I wonder how much we spend on the monarchy compared to Foreign Aid. Bizarre to me that we have food banks yet give away billions.

0.7% gdp. Nothing really a spit in the ocean "

In 2016 we spent £13.4 billion pounds on overseas aid OP. If this is your spit in the ocean then why so bitter about the Queen's £8 billion.

From your posts OP it seems you want a revolution to oust our monarch, seize her assets, disband the House of Lords and presumably your new Wolfie Smith army will take residence at Windsor Castle. Reminds me of George Orwell and Animal Farm. Everyone is Equal but some are more equal than others. Perish the plebs who voted Brexit. What do they know?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

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The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers."

Finally! People don't seem to understand that she is personally wealthy.

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over a year ago

Reading a lot of posts, reckon the Tower is filling up nicely

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers."
Nice post i didnt know that.

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over a year ago


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers."

At flipping last , someone with brains

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers."

Informative

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I'm not anti monarchist because of how much they cost the tax payer

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers."

8 billion was the figure someone pulled out of their arse earlier...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm far from a royalist, but she had no other option. The monarchy cannot be seen to overrule the elected Government of the day. I'm glad at least someone in this whole shameful debacle upholds democracy.

Exactly. A waste of space. Nothing the position does deserves our 8 billion pounds! "

You keep mentioning £8billion - do you have a source? Or a timescale that that relates to?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

OP has invented this figure

Anarchists always do this

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm not anti monarchist because of how much they cost the tax payer"

So what would you replace our constitutional monarchy with? Let me guess a come day go day politician looking to use their time in office to line up lots of cushy numbers to line their pockets and feather their and their families nests once they get kicked out, or perhaps you would prefer a 'strongman' to size power and take on the job for life?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I'm not anti monarchist because of how much they cost the tax payer

So what would you replace our constitutional monarchy with? Let me guess a come day go day politician looking to use their time in office to line up lots of cushy numbers to line their pockets and feather their and their families nests once they get kicked out, or perhaps you would prefer a 'strongman' to size power and take on the job for life?"

Silence says it all

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Op.. hang your head in shame

Rabble rouser !

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I'm not anti monarchist because of how much they cost the tax payer

So what would you replace our constitutional monarchy with? Let me guess a come day go day politician looking to use their time in office to line up lots of cushy numbers to line their pockets and feather their and their families nests once they get kicked out, or perhaps you would prefer a 'strongman' to size power and take on the job for life?"

I'm not looking to replace the monarchy. I'd like to reform it.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I'm not looking to replace the monarchy. I'd like to reform it. "

How?

Remember it has been paying for itself for the past 200 years and at present the Monarchs 'family business' (The Crown Estate) pays 75% of its annual net profits to the state. Maybe while telling us all how you would reform the Monarchy you will name another business that pays an equivalent amount of its profits to the British State?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I did not realise this..

If true, hang your head in shame OP..

I suspect he will go to ground

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

God save the Queen

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"God save the Queen"

Well I willingly swore an oath to defend her and her heirs and successors in person Crown and dignity when I joined our armed forces, I doubt I would have done that if I had to swear an oath to an Office that was up for grabs by the politician to climb to the top of that particularly unpleasant greasy pole.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

And the OP is the greasiest of greasy

Shame on him..

Move abroad if he dislikes this country so much

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

God Save Our Queen

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers.

Finally! People don't seem to understand that she is personally wealthy."
....by birth & previous generations theft of the country’s lands & assets.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers.

Finally! People don't seem to understand that she is personally wealthy.....by birth & previous generations theft of the country’s lands & assets."

Probably foreign assets to be fair

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"It's important to distinguish between her family's personal wealth and the payment she receives for performing the functions of head of state.

She is the richest woman in the world. Financially, she does not need the royal grant.

The whole claim that the taxpayer subsidises the crown is bullshit and has been since The Sovereign Grant Act 2011!

The Monarch owns The Crown Estate and signs its income over to the Exchequer at the beginning of their reign in return for the Royal Settlement of the Privy Purse. This is enacted in law (Civil List Act), at any time the government of the day can repeal the Civil List Act and both the Royal Settlement will cease, of course the Crown Estate will revert to the Crown at the same time and according to their last Annual Report (2018) they made a £329.4 million net profit of which 75% went to the Exchequer, the other 25% paid for the Civil List. So the Queen pays herself not a penny of tax goes to the Crown!

See the Crown Estate Annual report 1018:

https://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/media/2589/the_crown_estate_annual_report_2018.pdf

and the Sovereign Grant Act Report 2017/2018.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/media/sovereigngrant2017-18_final.pdf

Now all you anti-monarchists please tell me exactly how much the Crown cost UK taxpayers.

Finally! People don't seem to understand that she is personally wealthy.....by birth & previous generations theft of the country’s lands & assets."

So you're going to blame her for her ancestors?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

OP will blame anyone to justify his hatred of the monarchy.. despicable ..

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"OP will blame anyone to justify his hatred of the monarchy.. despicable .."

The OP is a couple, Boris

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

As Daffy Duck once said..

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over a year ago


"OP will blame anyone to justify his hatred of the monarchy.. despicable .."

Explain

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over a year ago


"OP will blame anyone to justify his hatred of the monarchy.. despicable ..

The OP is a couple, Boris "

Expand

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"OP will blame anyone to justify his hatred of the monarchy.. despicable ..

The OP is a couple, Boris "

Two haters then..

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"OP will blame anyone to justify his hatred of the monarchy.. despicable ..

The OP is a couple, Boris

Expand "

Ok .. Three

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

You sound like an anarchist OP. Some papers are calling this the death of democracy. Democracy died when MPs decided to go against the referendum result.. would you reverse that and march the Monarch to the gallows. She has served this country well for decades and please do not make her a scapegoat.."

What the fuck are you on, Boris?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

You sound like an anarchist OP. Some papers are calling this the death of democracy. Democracy died when MPs decided to go against the referendum result.. would you reverse that and march the Monarch to the gallows. She has served this country well for decades and please do not make her a scapegoat..

What the fuck are you on, Boris? "

Your case ?

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs


"She had very little choice - direct your anger against Herr Johnson Why ??

Because he has suspended Parliament to force through a no deal Brexit few in the country actually want. It’s anti democratic in the extreme and threatens to land us with a situation riddled with risks, none of which have been dealt with properly.

You sound like an anarchist OP. Some papers are calling this the death of democracy. Democracy died when MPs decided to go against the referendum result.. would you reverse that and march the Monarch to the gallows. She has served this country well for decades and please do not make her a scapegoat..

What the fuck are you on, Boris?

Your case ? "

Go to sleep, Boris - you need your rest

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I respect the Queen of this land and all it stands for...

Disrespect her if you will but it will gain you no respect from me..

Long live our Queen..

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"God save the Queen

Well I willingly swore an oath to defend her and her heirs and successors in person Crown and dignity when I joined our armed forces, I doubt I would have done that if I had to swear an oath to an Office that was up for grabs by the politician to climb to the top of that particularly unpleasant greasy pole."

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I respect the Queen of this land and all it stands for...

Disrespect her if you will but it will gain you no respect from me..

Long live our Queen.. "
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Yes this

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Down with the agitators and anarchists who would destroy our great country..

OP will agree I am sure...

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over a year ago


"Down with the agitators and anarchists who would destroy our great country..

OP will agree I am sure... "

You are very strange ...,.,

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Well I still love the Queen

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Down with the agitators and anarchists who would destroy our great country..

OP will agree I am sure...

You are very strange ...,.,"

Nowt stranger than folk as they say up North OP

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Well I still love the Queen "

You know her?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Down with the agitators and anarchists who would destroy our great country..

OP will agree I am sure...

You are very strange ...,.,

Nowt stranger than folk as they say up North OP"

Now take your Rag, Tag, and Bobtail army and begone..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Well I still love the Queen

You know her? "
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Yes

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Well I still love the Queen

You know her? "

I don't know you but you are a twat..

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Let me expand on that..

You are both twats..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Well I still love the Queen

You know her? "
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We are actually related, but that's all I can say...

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