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By *unstar_M OP Man
over a year ago

dudley

All seems very quite at the moment?

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

Check out the politics forum...they all know exactly what's going on in there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a constant on the Irish news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All seems very quite at the moment?"

Very quite indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone's been called in to prepare for no deal. There's no one left to chat to about it now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's been called in to prepare for no deal. There's no one left to chat to about it now."

That’s not one of your best jokes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Check out the politics forum...they all know exactly what's going on in there

I had a laugh to myself until I was flicking through forums and noticed there was actually a politics forum

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By *embslee1Man
over a year ago

pembroke

Can't be arsed with it now, no point, let the kids(politicians) squabble amongst themselves. Nothing we can do about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it."

The world still turns doesnt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol!! Feckin disaster from start to finish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it. "

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

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By *hongguyMan
over a year ago

heckmondwike

lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

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By *he Cheeky GirlsCouple (FF)
over a year ago

Dover Kent

Bend it like Boris, no one else can tell like he can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it."

I second this motion.

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By *houldibedoingthis!Man
over a year ago

london

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

I second this motion. "

Ignorance is bliss. I'm with you all the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't "

Really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet. "

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can’t believe the ignorance !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound? "

All of that has been happening long before all this crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound? "

Yep. Massive repercussions for Ireland too. North and south of the border.

Lots of worry over the Good Friday agreement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

All of that has been happening long before all this crap."

Really ? Omg !! When a business says we are leaving due to Brexit we think mmm ok but you would have left anyway except you didn’t In the last 30 years!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

Yep. Massive repercussions for Ireland too. North and south of the border.

Lots of worry over the Good Friday agreement.

Worry is an understatement

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By *oonloverWoman
over a year ago

bognor regis

But what about all the big business that has left with EU grants?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anyone of any 3 figure IQ think ..,

Boris, Farage, David, Raab, Rudd...,are really people to follow? Bunch of cunts!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

All of that has been happening long before all this crap.

Really ? Omg !! When a business says we are leaving due to Brexit we think mmm ok but you would have left anyway except you didn’t In the last 30 years!!! "

Perhaps a business should consider better ways to stay and support their country rather than everything being down to profit profit profit. And I know thats what businesses are really there for, but then perhaps business is all rubbish anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But what about all the big business that has left with EU grants?"

Who?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

Yep. Massive repercussions for Ireland too. North and south of the border.

Lots of worry over the Good Friday agreement.

Jesus h Christ on a bike!! Do people not know??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't "

What did you vote for ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound? "

No, how would I notice that if I don’t watch the news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

All of that has been happening long before all this crap.

Really ? Omg !! When a business says we are leaving due to Brexit we think mmm ok but you would have left anyway except you didn’t In the last 30 years!!!

What you said...makes no sense...try again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can’t believe the ignorance !!!! "

We’re on a rock floating in space, anything else is small fry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

No, how would I notice that if I don’t watch the news."

Ok. Don’t comment then...grown ups taking now!

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By *iverpooldarkoMan
over a year ago

wilmslow

It worries me what will happen with Ireland. I can see it going back to the dark days of the troubles. Already there is a reemergence of terrorist groups.

Unfortunately for me the world has gone mad. Apparently we can invent an invisible border solution in 30 days and the president of the USA had a tantrum because he couldnt buy an Island.

Stop the world i want to get off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

All of that has been happening long before all this crap.

Really ? Omg !! When a business says we are leaving due to Brexit we think mmm ok but you would have left anyway except you didn’t In the last 30 years!!!

What you said...makes no sense...try again "

Makes perfect sense to me. Businesses are in essence greedy entities designed to make money over all else. Re think business that works to support communities, individuals and the country as a whole not just a select few.

Will never happen as humans are greedy money machines and I cannot be convinced otherwise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 21/08/19 23:11:16]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Roll on Hard Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

No, how would I notice that if I don’t watch the news.

Ok. Don’t comment then...grown ups taking now! "

As a grown up, I would have thought you could spell ‘talking’. If you’re going to be incredibly patronising at least check your spelling, try again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"[Removed by poster at 21/08/19 23:11:16]"

Patronising was just the word my little brain was looking for. Fanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, still haven’t noticed any difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

All of that has been happening long before all this crap.

Really ? Omg !! When a business says we are leaving due to Brexit we think mmm ok but you would have left anyway except you didn’t In the last 30 years!!!

What you said...makes no sense...try again "

How’s that patronising thing working out for you ?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"It’s a constant on the Irish news.

That's because it could lead to civil war again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it is abit quite, justice to northern ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just what I've been looking forward to.....

Another Brexit thread

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Have I strayed into the wrong forum?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s a constant on the Irish news.

That's because it could lead to civil war again."

It does not need to, the EU just needs to be flexible. But it is blatantly using Ireland as a pawn.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

It does make me laugh, everytime brexit seems to falter there will be a report on migrants getting across the channel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s a constant on the Irish news.

That's because it could lead to civil war again."

Yeah, I know. I lived through some of the last one and lost people I know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s a constant on the Irish news.

That's because it could lead to civil war again."

Total rubbish. The civil war was back in 1922 or thereabouts.

Other than a handful of zealots nutters and sheep no one either side of the border is going to be rushing to the barricades....

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't "

Neither did it have an option for creating a recession.

The campaign was for an exit via an agreed terms deal, a Northern Ireland/Ireland border that was open and respected the Good Friday peace agreement and supported trading without extra tariffs being imposed (keeping shopping affordable). A no deal exit meam you and everyone else will have to pay much more for all shopping and a recession becomes likely. Out products become dearer for EU countries, putting thousands of UK companies and jobs at risk. It's complicated because decades of business, standards and laws were developed with us central to the EU. Expecting ordinary citizens to understand enough about the whole complexity of it was inappropriate, especially as millions of peoples lives and wellbeing depends on what was concluded. Medication, including cancer treatments are now at risk - of you have a loved one who might die, the details of the way we might leave may be the most important thing right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's been called in to prepare for no deal. There's no one left to chat to about it now.

That’s not one of your best jokes."

And you know bad jokes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brexit was a vote for a misguided nostalgia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FUCK SAKE!!!!

I only joined Fab to escape all talk of the B word.

Right, I'm going UNLOS

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Brexit is an excuse to increase revenue and run the hard working workers out of the uk. Build the wall I say

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"It’s a constant on the Irish news.

Yea cuz taking about the weather and the art and boys band has got boring

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's been called in to prepare for no deal. There's no one left to chat to about it now.

That’s not one of your best jokes.

And you know bad jokes."

Yeah, I’m aware of you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the presidents are in spain

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds

O no their not

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

I’m fucking sick of it... just get on with it.. we’ve survived this far as a country and I can’t see us not surviving this ... where were Europe in 1939 ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m fucking sick of it... just get on with it.. we’ve survived this far as a country and I can’t see us not surviving this ... where were Europe in 1939 ?? "

Is this sarcasm? I’m not sure any more with shite I’ve heard...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Neither did it have an option for creating a recession.

But!!!! Blue passports!!???!!!

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

The eu will buckle because they don't want other countries to leave ....even greece

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Lol that is precisely why they won't

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't "

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"I’m fucking sick of it... just get on with it.. we’ve survived this far as a country and I can’t see us not surviving this ... where were Europe in 1939 ?? "

Experiencing what the rest of the world had experienced under Britain for the previous 300 years - military conquest followed by occupation and puppet rulers who allowed their country to be stripped of it's natural riches.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m fucking sick of it... just get on with it.. we’ve survived this far as a country and I can’t see us not surviving this ... where were Europe in 1939 ??

And also Russia beating the German army and France with those underground and oh I give up, I really do!

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"Lol that is precisely why they won't"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Two questions?? Mmmm? Maybe that’s why we leaving the biggest market in the world with no trade deals, losing jobs, having to pay off farmers, short of migrant nhs workers, even dyson fucked off!! I do wonder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't "
Brexit wont happen lol.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't Brexit wont happen lol."

As good as that sounds Shag I think you are wrong. The UK is circling the drain and it’s a matter of “pride” now that we crash out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't Brexit wont happen lol."

Did not vote for a deal? What did they actually vote out for? Do they even know?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't Brexit wont happen lol.

As good as that sounds Shag I think you are wrong. The UK is circling the drain and it’s a matter of “pride” now that we crash out. "
We will see on the day. I reckon the parliament will have the final say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't Brexit wont happen lol.

Did not vote for a deal? What did they actually vote out for? Do they even know? "
Noone really know and not even themself but I think it is misguided nostalgia thinking they will rule the world as a big empire.

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Two Questions?? Yep Simple

Remain in the EU

Leave the EU

unless you had a different ballot paper to everyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't Brexit wont happen lol.

As good as that sounds Shag I think you are wrong. The UK is circling the drain and it’s a matter of “pride” now that we crash out. "

Pride as you know comes before the fall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Two Questions?? Yep Simple

Remain in the EU

Leave the EU

unless you had a different ballot paper to everyone else

Two questions?? Really did you answer two questions???

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

It wasn't "leave" or "stay".

It was "Leave while honouring all our commitments and the GFA at all cost" or "Stay"

Was there anything on the ballot about not paying bills? Breaking peace treaties?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Two Questions?? Yep Simple

Remain in the EU

Leave the EU

unless you had a different ballot paper to everyone else

Two questions?? Really did you answer two questions???"

Dammit. I forgot to turn over the ballot paper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We should leave, but then when things get worse, those who voted Brexit should be on the chopping block first. Oh what's that, we only have a limited supply of medicine, well according to our notes you voted for this, what's that you can't get a doctor's appointment? Well according to our notes you voted for Brexit and a huge chunk of Doctors and Nurses had to go, etc.

Let's see how fast Farage, Boris, Give, etc will care about you then.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

"We should leave, but then when things get worse, those who voted Brexit should be on the chopping block first. Oh what's that, we only have a limited supply of medicine, well according to our notes you voted for this, what's that you can't get a doctor's appointment? Well according to our notes you voted for Brexit and a huge chunk of Doctors and Nurses had to go, etc.

Let's see how fast Farage, Boris, Give, etc will care about you then."

Yawn ,, its the end of the world aarrgghh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's see how fast Farage, Boris, Give, etc will care about you then."

Excellent !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven’t watched the news for a year, it’s brilliant, I haven’t a fucking clue what’s going on, I recommend it.

The world still turns doesnt it.

It does, it’s all very serious, but I haven’t noticed any difference yet.

Have you not? Job losses? Nhs losses? Euro v pound?

All of that has been happening long before all this crap.

Really ? Omg !! When a business says we are leaving due to Brexit we think mmm ok but you would have left anyway except you didn’t In the last 30 years!!!

Business makes jobs, bigger more successful businesses create even more jobs but yes fuck them off, we don't need them anyway and who the fuck needs jobs

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

And some people might get a shock when they discover how little of British business is owned by British capital.

You know, people for whom Rule Britannia goes in one ear and out the other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

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no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't "

The Leave campaign mentioned getting deals throughout. I assume that the 17.4m bothered to read both leave and remain literature and follow the campaigns? Then make an educated decision based on the arguments from both sides? That would of course be the logical thing to do.

Given the above, did you not for one minute prior to sticking an X in a box , not considered what LEAVE actually meant?

I saw 2 boxes on my ballot paper. 1 was to Remain. The outcome of that was clear. The other was to leave. Did I know what LEAVE actually meant? Did I hell and I absolutely guarantee that not one of the 17.4m knew what it meant. Of course, some know what they wanted it to mean but they don't speak for everyone...

"We didn't vote to leave without a deal. That wasn't the message of the campaign I helped lead"

Michael Gove - 11/03/19

There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal"

Boris Johnson - 11/07/17

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?"

Still peddling this horsesh*t?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?

Still peddling this horsesh*t?"
What was on your ballot paper then?

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?

Still peddling this horsesh*t?What was on your ballot paper then?"

I had 2 options.

Remain which I was led to believe by the remain campaign meant staying in the EU.

Leave which I was led to believe by the leave campaign meant getting a 'great' and 'easy' deal and whatever horsesh*t the leave campaign was peddling.

You might want to leave at any cost but I can guarantee that enough voted beleving in a deal to make the "WTO" lot a minority.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?

Still peddling this horsesh*t?What was on your ballot paper then?

I had 2 options.

Remain which I was led to believe by the remain campaign meant staying in the EU.

Leave which I was led to believe by the leave campaign meant getting a 'great' and 'easy' deal and whatever horsesh*t the leave campaign was peddling.

You might want to leave at any cost but I can guarantee that enough voted beleving in a deal to make the "WTO" lot a minority."

I have to agree with that. Leave to many, meant a well organised and managed withdrawal, not the shambolic scenario we have now.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?

Still peddling this horsesh*t?"

Still crying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still crying "

You know it gets to a certain point where YOU come across as the moaning and crying one, I think I've seen you in this section post more about "remoaners" and people crying than I've actually seen anybody "crying".

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

"Still crying

I can only assume your not very strong at keeping track of things then or reading isn’t one of your strong points

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can only assume your not very strong at keeping track of things then or reading isn’t one of your strong points"

Ahh you're also bad at assuming too

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

"I can only assume your not very strong at keeping track of things then or reading isn’t one of your strong points

Ahh you're also bad at assuming too

Well by your comment it must be one of the two I mentioned as your comment was so wrong.

My apologies it could be a third and it’s your intelligence, but definitely one of the 3

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over a year ago

"Well by your comment it must be one of the two I mentioned as your comment was so wrong.

My apologies it could be a third and it’s your intelligence, but definitely one of the 3 "

Or perhaps it's neither and you're just a moaner in denial

to be fair though at least it looks like you've had meets on here unlike some of the others who hang around this section

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I have to agree with that. Leave to many, meant a well organised and managed withdrawal, not the shambolic scenario we have now. "

I cannot remember a single person in 2016 talking about how exciting a unilateral exit from the EU would be.

Quite the opposite.

They were supremely confident the EU would be falling over themselves to offer cake-and-eat-it terms.

Anyone who suggested otherwise was dismissed in scathing terms.

Now, when that supreme confidence turns out to have been hubris on an epic scale, do the Brexiteers:

a) accept their predictions in 2016 may have been somewhat flawed

b) re-write history to justify why No Deal was always the outcome they expected.

Answers on a postcard, please.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

"Well by your comment it must be one of the two I mentioned as your comment was so wrong.

My apologies it could be a third and it’s your intelligence, but definitely one of the 3

Or perhaps it's neither and you're just a moaner in denial

to be fair though at least it looks like you've had meets on here unlike some of the others who hang around this section

Or maybe I’m a moaner of others moaning, I could agree to that to be fair ,, deal ?? Lol

And god yes I take my swinging very seriously lol

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over a year ago

"lets get the fuck out of Europe asap I didn't vote for a deal did anyone one else see that on the ballot paper cos I fucking didn't

Yeah absolutely agree

There were only 2 questions on the ballot paper to remain or leave

Nothing on there about leaving with a deal

Or having another referendum if a bunch of moaners didn’t like the result

Nothing on it about leaving with no deal either

no because it was remain or leave what part of that dont you understand?"

Ahh the keyboard warrior strikes again

It was quite plain to understand to even the most hard of understanding that I was replying to the post section that said

##Nothing on there about leaving with a deal##

I'm sure even your understanding could of understood that

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over a year ago

The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying. "

1 simple question

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

With simple answers. The bit inbetween is difficult tho!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Brexit what a fat yorkshire lass does to a plastic chair when she sits on it

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"Brexit what a fat yorkshire lass does to a plastic chair when she sits on it "

Hahahaha

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice. "

But one side has been proven to have misled, been absolutely incorrect and down right lied. One hasn't as one has historical proof staying as we are

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

But one side has been proven to have misled, been absolutely incorrect and down right lied. One hasn't as one has historical proof staying as we are "
very true remain said that there would be an emergency budget,mass unemployment and house prices would dramatically fall if we dared to vote leave none of which was true.

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

But one side has been proven to have misled, been absolutely incorrect and down right lied. One hasn't as one has historical proof staying as we are very true remain said that there would be an emergency budget,mass unemployment and house prices would dramatically fall if we dared to vote leave none of which was true."

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to!

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over a year ago

No side has come out smelling or roses here.

Remain, on the whole, showed their workings and had a load of detail. Yes, their predictions were sometimes wrong (house prices) , sometimes right (sterling) and sometimes debatable (gdp lost)

But economic predictions aren't easy and sensitive to the inputs (QE)

That said, Osborne simplistic summarising of the detail was playing to the crowd.

Leave tended to make more simplistic statements (imo sensible given the wide range of interest people take in understanding issues) and many of these statements were used to suggest miss leading implications by the reader (350m, eu exports 40% to us, easiest deal etc)

No one has the moral high ground.

Each tended to put a filter on when summarising to us.

Unfortunately that's politics, and the tribal nature we have built in recent years almost makes us afraid to hold out won side to account, just attack the other side.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! "
Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them."

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar. "

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Andrea Leadsom seems to think the Remain campaign was credible, because she says anyone who voted Brexit and loses their job as a result knew the risks they were taking.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

That's it applying for dual nationality on my passport now, did you know roaming charges will now come back now.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

Still not had anyone give a single tangible benefit to balance against even the current losses, never mind the chaos that is going to occur according to bojo's own commissioned study. And i don't count "we survived the war, we can survive this" as a bloody benefit!

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over a year ago

"Andrea Leadsom seems to think the Remain campaign was credible, because she says anyone who voted Brexit and loses their job as a result knew the risks they were taking."

Remain was credible. Chat think of anything said that wasn’t true. But facts are facts and Brexit campaign was lies or at best ignorant

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar. "

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true "
could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

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over a year ago

" could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?"

There has been numerous statements from mainly financial services companies that are or have already closed down jobs in the UK to relocate in other EU capitals.

Investment is massively down in general, and that lack of investment will have led to an equal percentage share of jobs not being created too.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

" could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

There has been numerous statements from mainly financial services companies that are or have already closed down jobs in the UK to relocate in other EU capitals.

Investment is massively down in general, and that lack of investment will have led to an equal percentage share of jobs not being created too.

Do you need us to explain what specific means ?

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying. "
It was just 1 question as the remainers knew what they voted for and that was to keep it as is and to be in the eu

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

It's true.

Remain had a plan - the status quo.

Leave did not have a plan, just an idea.

So now, three years later, that idea can still mean whatever you want it to mean.

Brexit means Brexit.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice. "

Only just noticed

So only 1 question then not the 2 you thought it was then lol

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over a year ago

"It's true.

Remain had a plan - the status quo.

Leave did not have a plan, just an idea.

So now, three years later, that idea can still mean whatever you want it to mean.

Brexit means Brexit.

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That is right

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over a year ago

"Still not had anyone give a single tangible benefit to balance against even the current losses, never mind the chaos that is going to occur according to bojo's own commissioned study. And i don't count "we survived the war, we can survive this" as a bloody benefit!"

The benefits of brexit aren't for normal people. It's about power and control for the Eton political economic elites classes.

And a little bit so they can continue to use tax avoidance schemes.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay

The benefits of brexit aren't for normal people. It's about power and control for the Eton political economic elites classes.

And a little bit so they can continue to use tax avoidance schemes."

Tally ho, off to get some tissues you go

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By *hebritukCouple
over a year ago

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The calm before the storm!

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over a year ago

" could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

There has been numerous statements from mainly financial services companies that are or have already closed down jobs in the UK to relocate in other EU capitals.

Investment is massively down in general, and that lack of investment will have led to an equal percentage share of jobs not being created too.

Do you need us to explain what specific means ? "

Total Jobs Lost: 243,702

Total Annual Wages Lost*: £6,988,642,254

Reduction in Annual Income Tax & National Insurance Receipts**: £2,093,124,796.74

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?"

Automotive: 50,467

Transport: 30,799

Food & Drink: 30,315

Finance: 17,289

Construction: 14,167

Clothing: 10,639

Aerospace: 4,324

Agriculture: 3,100

ICT: 2,505

Hospitality: 2450

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

Automotive: 50,467

Transport: 30,799

Food & Drink: 30,315

Finance: 17,289

Construction: 14,167

Clothing: 10,639

Aerospace: 4,324

Agriculture: 3,100

ICT: 2,505

Hospitality: 2450"

Those automotive job losses are certainly not due to Brexit.

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over a year ago

Not solely or primarily due to Brexit I agree.

But when deciding which plants to close, yes, being diesel counted against us, being a distance away from huge new markets counted against us (if you believe distance makes a difference to ability to trade)... But having a tarrif and friction free access to a huge market counted for us... And bejng able to be part of a tarriff free and fiction free supply chain counted for us... Brexit, while not being responsible for the con column took away so pro points.

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over a year ago

"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

Automotive: 50,467

Transport: 30,799

Food & Drink: 30,315

Finance: 17,289

Construction: 14,167

Clothing: 10,639

Aerospace: 4,324

Agriculture: 3,100

ICT: 2,505

Hospitality: 2450

Those automotive job losses are certainly not due to Brexit. "

Job losses are attributed to Brexit if they meet one or more of the following conditions:

1. The employer’s business has been significantly affected by sterling’s devaluation, either immediately through rises in the cost of imported inputs or later by inflation passed on by those who were so affected.

2. Government austerity cuts are attributed to Brexit since Britain voted to remain the EU, austerity would have been lifted instead of deepened.

3. Barring other obvious explanations businesses that were doing okay but experienced a significant slowdown after the Brexit vote are deemed to have been impacted by Brexit.

4. Businesses and other enterprises (e.g. EU regulatory authorities) that will be impacted by the imposition of trading or regulatory barriers (including the potential imposition of tariffs).

5. All jobs moved abroad are considered Brexit-related even if offshored outside the EU, since Brexit makes Britain a “third country” to the EU, just like India or China.

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The aerospace group employs 14,000 people in Britain, including 6,000 jobs at its main wings factory at Broughton in North Wales and 3,000 at Filton, near Bristol, where wings are designed.

Chief executive Tom Enders warned in January that the firm could be forced to start shutting down UK plants and attacked Theresa’s May’s government for the prevailing state of chaos, saying: “It is a disgrace that, more than two years after the result of the 2016 referendum, businesses are still unable to plan properly for the future.”

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Aviva

Britain’s second-largest insurer announced in February it will move £7.8bn worth of assets to Ireland as it prepares for Brexit.

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Barclays

The British bank has moved £166bn of its clients' assets to the Irish capital, stating that it could not wait any longer to implement Brexit contingency plans.

Barclays has also set aside a cool £150m in anticipation of Brexit chaos, expecting a slowdown in economic growth of 0.3 per cent and a spike in unemployment of 5.7 per cent.

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The company announced 400 job cuts in September 2018 blaming the weakening of the pound and the euro which has made the raw materials it uses - all traded in US dollars - more expensive.

In May 2019 British Steel said it risked going into administration, putting more than 4,000 jobs on the line at its main Scunthorpe plant and three other sites, along with an estimated 20,000 in the supply chain.

The private-equity backed company said it needed £30m of government support, partly because of "Brexit-related" problems,

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Credit Suisse

The giant Swiss bank is reported to have moved about 250 bankers from London to other European financial hubs.

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Ford

The US car maker warned in February that a no-deal Brexit would be “catastrophic” for its business and and put jobs at risk at its Bridgend, Dagenham and Halewood manufacturing plants.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

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"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

Automotive: 50,467

Transport: 30,799

Food & Drink: 30,315

Finance: 17,289

Construction: 14,167

Clothing: 10,639

Aerospace: 4,324

Agriculture: 3,100

ICT: 2,505

Hospitality: 2450

Those automotive job losses are certainly not due to Brexit.

Job losses are attributed to Brexit if they meet one or more of the following conditions:

2. Government austerity cuts are attributed to Brexit since Britain voted to remain the EU, austerity would have been lifted instead of deepened.

3. Barring other obvious explanations businesses that were doing okay but experienced a significant slowdown after the Brexit vote are deemed to have been impacted by Brexit.

4. Businesses and other enterprises (e.g. EU regulatory authorities) that will be impacted by the imposition of trading or regulatory barriers (including the potential imposition of tariffs).

5. All jobs moved abroad are considered Brexit-related even if offshored outside the EU, since Brexit makes Britain a “third country” to the EU, just like India or China.

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I see you are an avid follower of mr hickmott .I know hes a avid remainer but he does talk some crap how can he equate the fall of the pound against the euro as a brexit reason when the pound was at its present level in 2009 before brexit was even thought of.As for all the other reasons he uses to come up with for a mythical figure its no wonder brexiteers dont believe a word remainers say.If these are the type of people you choose to believe no wonder you are so depressed.

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over a year ago

London

European Medicines Agency - already moved with a loss of 900 jobs

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over a year ago

Grantham

"Ford

The US car maker warned in February that a no-deal Brexit would be “catastrophic” for its business and and put jobs at risk at its Bridgend, Dagenham and Halewood manufacturing plants."

Bridgend is running down because the Ford engine being produced there is no longer required in sufficient volume, and the JLR engine is going to the new JLR engine plant at Wolverhampton.

Halewood is a JLR facility, apart from a small Ford transmission plant.

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"Ford

The US car maker warned in February that a no-deal Brexit would be “catastrophic” for its business and and put jobs at risk at its Bridgend, Dagenham and Halewood manufacturing plants.

Bridgend is running down because the Ford engine being produced there is no longer required in sufficient volume, and the JLR engine is going to the new JLR engine plant at Wolverhampton.

Halewood is a JLR facility, apart from a small Ford transmission plant. "

Wonder why jlr bosses would lie about it?

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"The ballot paper had 2 simple questions with no other detail but each option was backed up with mountains of rhetoric on each side.

None of the leave rhetoric was pushing or even talking of leaving without an agreement / deal and to say otherwise is just plain and simple lying.

1 simple question

Yes one overly simple question that both options we're backed up with mountains of rhetoric which went with each simple choice.

Yet! Better those things are not true than the crap you were fed for your vote tho! I don't get why leavers are mad at remainers rather than the lying twat bags they gave their votes to! Well we have not left yet so we do not know what the outcome will be unless you can see into the future.Maybe all those remain so called experts who predicted what would happen and didn't had been right more people would be prepared to believe them now.I for one dont believe them.

You're right to take all claims with a pinch of salt. On both sides. I don't believe remain claims nor leave claims unless I can see how they get to the answer.

Mass unemployment smelt wrong.

Easiest deal ever smelt wrong.

I suspect most people more readily believe those who support their beliefs... And hold the other side to a higher bar.

Jobs already gone, jobs under threat (Vauxhall’s, JLR, etc) true could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

Automotive: 50,467

Transport: 30,799

Food & Drink: 30,315

Finance: 17,289

Construction: 14,167

Clothing: 10,639

Aerospace: 4,324

Agriculture: 3,100

ICT: 2,505

Hospitality: 2450

Those automotive job losses are certainly not due to Brexit.

Job losses are attributed to Brexit if they meet one or more of the following conditions:

2. Government austerity cuts are attributed to Brexit since Britain voted to remain the EU, austerity would have been lifted instead of deepened.

3. Barring other obvious explanations businesses that were doing okay but experienced a significant slowdown after the Brexit vote are deemed to have been impacted by Brexit.

4. Businesses and other enterprises (e.g. EU regulatory authorities) that will be impacted by the imposition of trading or regulatory barriers (including the potential imposition of tariffs).

5. All jobs moved abroad are considered Brexit-related even if offshored outside the EU, since Brexit makes Britain a “third country” to the EU, just like India or China.

I see you are an avid follower of mr hickmott .I know hes a avid remainer but he does talk some crap how can he equate the fall of the pound against the euro as a brexit reason when the pound was at its present level in 2009 before brexit was even thought of.As for all the other reasons he uses to come up with for a mythical figure its no wonder brexiteers dont believe a word remainers say.If these are the type of people you choose to believe no wonder you are so depressed."

But you are dismissing all the other posts too? No wonder you were tricked into voting out.

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" could you be more specific what jobs have gone due to brexit?

There has been numerous statements from mainly financial services companies that are or have already closed down jobs in the UK to relocate in other EU capitals.

Investment is massively down in general, and that lack of investment will have led to an equal percentage share of jobs not being created too.

Do you need us to explain what specific means ? "

Research yourself it's easy to do online unless you're so inept at doing so

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

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A nice little piece on health bbc website you remainers might like, it seems people who look on the bright side of life live longer than pessimists.pessimists could benefit from doing things like imagining a future where everything turns out well.So there you have it cheer up stay healthy and stop being a burden on the nhs.

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"A nice little piece on health bbc website you remainers might like, it seems people who look on the bright side of life live longer than pessimists.pessimists could benefit from doing things like imagining a future where everything turns out well.So there you have it cheer up stay healthy and stop being a burden on the nhs.

Be a burden on the state pension instead!

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