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"Finally has Court date - 17th and 18th September EU determined Ireland acted illegally by not collecting correct taxes from Apple. EU interpreted the sweetheart deal Ireland gave Apple was "illegal state aid" " What's the relevance to UK? | |||
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"Finally has Court date - 17th and 18th September EU determined Ireland acted illegally by not collecting correct taxes from Apple. EU interpreted the sweetheart deal Ireland gave Apple was "illegal state aid" What's the relevance to UK?" Does there have to be a relevance to UK to post on the politics forum? The date is set for Apple's and the irish governments appeal against the European Commission’s (EC) ruling that it must pay a massive €13B ($14.4B) in underpaid taxes to the Irish government. It demonstrates the Irish governments contempt towards its own people having to pay for years to come for the bailouts Ireland received during the crash but refuses 13B in tax from a multinational. Mind boggling. | |||
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"Finally has Court date - 17th and 18th September EU determined Ireland acted illegally by not collecting correct taxes from Apple. EU interpreted the sweetheart deal Ireland gave Apple was "illegal state aid" What's the relevance to UK?" What was the relevance to the uk on your trump mulls over buying greenland post? | |||
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"Finally has Court date - 17th and 18th September EU determined Ireland acted illegally by not collecting correct taxes from Apple. EU interpreted the sweetheart deal Ireland gave Apple was "illegal state aid" " This whole thing was a joke. If I lived in Ireland I would be so pissed off with the government. Imagine what that money could do for the country. | |||
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" What's the relevance to UK?What was the relevance to the uk on your trump mulls over buying greenland post?" I asked it as a genuine question, not as a criticism. Whether the case had an impact on UK. | |||
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"I’m sure...but rules are rules that must be followed ...Apple invested in Ireland due to their low CT. Ireland also sweetened the deal ... Ireland gets valuable investment and jobs ... happy days A few years down the line Of course this wouldn’t have happened - Eu moving to singular tax regime across all members..." | |||
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"The consequences of being in the EU club .... " Corporations having to pay tax is a positive. | |||
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"Finally has Court date - 17th and 18th September EU determined Ireland acted illegally by not collecting correct taxes from Apple. EU interpreted the sweetheart deal Ireland gave Apple was "illegal state aid" This whole thing was a joke. If I lived in Ireland I would be so pissed off with the government. Imagine what that money could do for the country. " The site which was going to be built would have been The Biggest apple production site 8n the world outside of China, it would have bought immense wealth 8nto Ireland not just through apple but a 100 other blue chip companies which were planning to move there to . Apple got the sweetner to draw the other companies in. Now Apple aren't coming i doubt the others will. | |||
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"Yes, it is the fundamental weakness of the €. Monetary policy is centralised but fiscal policy is sovereign. The £ zone works because both are controlled from the centre. In € land, for the currency to work and reduce risk, fiscal policy needs to be run from centre, too. Politically, the states do not want to give up their tax and spend independence. So the € gets a sticking plaster until the next crisis." No area the size of the euro zone can work with one fiscal policy, the cuture of all the different nations and their attitude to work/saving and fraud make it impossible, and yett you want to remmain in that club, yes I kknow we arent in the euro but he fall out of the issues will affect us more and more. While it woulld be a great idea to have one currency one government in te world it could nnever work | |||
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"The consequences of being in the EU club .... Corporations having to pay tax is a positive." They did pay CT to Ireland - the amount the Irish government asked them to. The club disagreed and said “we want more” | |||
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"Think the British people should not worry about ireland and their tax system .better off trying to sort out your own mess" Yes Ireland tax system is their responsibility (other than the EU of course thinking they should have a say in how much they tax companies) Good example of what happens when you upset the club - so maybe better we are out | |||
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"Finally has Court date - 17th and 18th September EU determined Ireland acted illegally by not collecting correct taxes from Apple. EU interpreted the sweetheart deal Ireland gave Apple was "illegal state aid" This whole thing was a joke. If I lived in Ireland I would be so pissed off with the government. Imagine what that money could do for the country. The site which was going to be built would have been The Biggest apple production site 8n the world outside of China, it would have bought immense wealth 8nto Ireland not just through apple but a 100 other blue chip companies which were planning to move there to . Apple got the sweetner to draw the other companies in. Now Apple aren't coming i doubt the others will." Exactly | |||
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"Yes, it is the fundamental weakness of the €. Monetary policy is centralised but fiscal policy is sovereign. The £ zone works because both are controlled from the centre. In € land, for the currency to work and reduce risk, fiscal policy needs to be run from centre, too. Politically, the states do not want to give up their tax and spend independence. So the € gets a sticking plaster until the next crisis. No area the size of the euro zone can work with one fiscal policy, the cuture of all the different nations and their attitude to work/saving and fraud make it impossible, and yett you want to remmain in that club, yes I kknow we arent in the euro but he fall out of the issues will affect us more and more. While it woulld be a great idea to have one currency one government in te world it could nnever work" Yes, you can only have so many sticky plasters. | |||
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"Think the British people should not worry about ireland and their tax system .better off trying to sort out your own mess Yes Ireland tax system is their responsibility (other than the EU of course thinking they should have a say in how much they tax companies) Good example of what happens when you upset the club - so maybe better we are out " Ireland signed up to the rules. Maybe they should leave too if they don't like them... Help solve the border problem!! | |||
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"Think the British people should not worry about ireland and their tax system .better off trying to sort out your own mess Yes Ireland tax system is their responsibility (other than the EU of course thinking they should have a say in how much they tax companies) Good example of what happens when you upset the club - so maybe better we are out Ireland signed up to the rules. Maybe they should leave too if they don't like them... Help solve the border problem!!" Not a bad idea 
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"Yes, it is the fundamental weakness of the €. Monetary policy is centralised but fiscal policy is sovereign. The £ zone works because both are controlled from the centre. In € land, for the currency to work and reduce risk, fiscal policy needs to be run from centre, too. Politically, the states do not want to give up their tax and spend independence. So the € gets a sticking plaster until the next crisis." Probably the first post of yours that I actually agree with. But it will take more than a sticking plaster when Italy goes tits up. Which it will, the only question is when? | |||
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" No area the size of the euro zone can work with one fiscal policy, the cuture of all the different nations and their attitude to work/saving and fraud make it impossible, and yett you want to remmain in that club, yes I kknow we arent in the euro but he fall out of the issues will affect us more and more. While it woulld be a great idea to have one currency one government in te world it could nnever work" It makes little difference whether the UK is inside the EU our outside. Western finance, from the US to Europe, is so intertwined that any currency failure anywhere will ricochet through the system. Being outside the EU won't protect the UK from contagion. | |||
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" No area the size of the euro zone can work with one fiscal policy, the cuture of all the different nations and their attitude to work/saving and fraud make it impossible, and yett you want to remmain in that club, yes I kknow we arent in the euro but he fall out of the issues will affect us more and more. While it woulld be a great idea to have one currency one government in te world it could nnever work It makes little difference whether the UK is inside the EU our outside. Western finance, from the US to Europe, is so intertwined that any currency failure anywhere will ricochet through the system. Being outside the EU won't protect the UK from contagion. " Protect? No. Minimise? Possibly. Having an independent currency? Almost certainly. | |||
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"Think the British people should not worry about ireland and their tax system .better off trying to sort out your own mess Yes Ireland tax system is their responsibility (other than the EU of course thinking they should have a say in how much they tax companies) Good example of what happens when you upset the club - so maybe better we are out Ireland signed up to the rules. Maybe they should leave too if they don't like them... Help solve the border problem!! Not a bad idea
"We're not that stupid. Theres a reason that the EU is more popular now than it was before Brexit and its not because you made the smart choice. | |||
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" Protect? No. Minimise? Possibly. Having an independent currency? Almost certainly." Demonstrably, you can be in the EU and hold a currency independent of the EU. | |||
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" Protect? No. Minimise? Possibly. Having an independent currency? Almost certainly. Demonstrably, you can be in the EU and hold a currency independent of the EU. " For now yes. But who knows what the future will hold? As it stands all "new" members have to set a timetable for joining the Euro. How long before that becomes all members have to set a timetable for joining the Euro? Removing one word makes a hell of a difference and we all know how good the EU are at moving goalposts. | |||
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" Protect? No. Minimise? Possibly. Having an independent currency? Almost certainly. Demonstrably, you can be in the EU and hold a currency independent of the EU. For now yes. But who knows what the future will hold? As it stands all "new" members have to set a timetable for joining the Euro. How long before that becomes all members have to set a timetable for joining the Euro? Removing one word makes a hell of a difference and we all know how good the EU are at moving goalposts. " Untrue. Existing members can opt out. Demonstrably. New members sign up in principle. Croatia, for example, signed up in 2003 or so, but still uses the Kuna. Any country wanting to convert to the Euro needs to meet strict convergence criteria to avoid a destabilising effect. In reality, that can take decades. | |||
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"Untrue. They had a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, I think. " You think? Is this a slow handclap moment? Either way, the EU is merrily fucking over Irish farmers and beef (one of Ireland's important exports) by bringing in cheap meat from across the globe to undercut them. | |||
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"Untrue. They had a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, I think. You think? Is this a slow handclap moment? Either way, the EU is merrily fucking over Irish farmers and beef (one of Ireland's important exports) by bringing in cheap meat from across the globe to undercut them." Ireland can veto that trade agreement if it wishes. Trade agreements require unanimous agreement. | |||
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"Untrue. They had a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, I think. You think? Is this a slow handclap moment? Either way, the EU is merrily fucking over Irish farmers and beef (one of Ireland's important exports) by bringing in cheap meat from across the globe to undercut them. Ireland can veto that trade agreement if it wishes. Trade agreements require unanimous agreement. " Look up Phil Hogan This guy epitomizes the greedy self serving politicians of Ireland. Make a balls of your portfolio and get rewarded with a sweet well paid pensioned EU job. When will people wake up to the fact these cockroaches serve no one but them selves. Hence don't be surprised if Ireland votes against the interests of its farmers | |||
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