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Paddy Power - 12/1 the UK Government needs to ration food

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Lord Haskins, who chairs the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership and is the former chairman of Hull-based Hull Foods, was asked on Radio 4 about concerns of a food shortage unless competition rules are relaxed.

"The government thinks the food will flow normally as before but I have my doubts. I think there will be some panic-buying and that will create shortages.

"We could be in a war-time situation of limited amount of food rationing.

"Those who can remember the war, that took a long time to put in place ands it was pretty haphazard and pretty unfair.

"Now I don't think we will get to that but I am very concerned about the groups who aren't in the supermarket chains and how they would deal with things."

Tim Rycroft, corporate affairs director at the Food and Drink Federation, said: "The deadline is pretty much the worst date because it's peak Christmas pre-season, and warehouses are full.

"We think there will be some serious disruption and it will go on for weeks or months.

"Fresh food is obviously the tip of the iceberg but we expect that there will be shortages on a whole range of things."

Just imagine how popular the Government will be in these circumstances?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

1) petrol will be rationed before food....

2) they why Bojo will either want an election either before brexit/as soon as brexit will take place.... or not till 2022....

because if bojo had it say late nov/dec you'd be right in the kick of the teething issues.....

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

It is a good plan to relieve remoaners of there money,wish I had thought of it

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

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By *hebritukCouple
over a year ago

London

Don’t worry Boris will sort everything out! Trump with give us a great deal and Putin is a decent chap? Really ??

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

"

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol"

This doesn't address any of the issues discussed in this thread. Or even make sense. Maybe you could clarify how "doing things the british way" will help us as the economy crumbles, food, fuel and medical supplies run short?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

"

It's a combination of stupid and evil.

The more racist element led by Farage, funded by the Americans are stupid.

The greedy element, led by the upper echelons of the Tory party are evil.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

It's a combination of stupid and evil.

The more racist element led by Farage, funded by the Americans are stupid.

The greedy element, led by the upper echelons of the Tory party are evil."

What a load of bollocks

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol

This doesn't address any of the issues discussed in this thread. Or even make sense. Maybe you could clarify how "doing things the british way" will help us as the economy crumbles, food, fuel and medical supplies run short?"

You have zero sense of humour and little knowledge of Britishness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol

This doesn't address any of the issues discussed in this thread. Or even make sense. Maybe you could clarify how "doing things the british way" will help us as the economy crumbles, food, fuel and medical supplies run short?You have zero sense of humour and little knowledge of Britishness"

Feel free to enlighten me. Or to explain what you didn't like about my other post?

And yeah I don't know what "Britishness" means to you. It's something different for every person. I'm not patriotic at all, so never gave much stock to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is funny. Reading the OP it is clear an owner of a SME has 'concerns' he can't compete with the supermarkets. No shit sherlock!

The loonies on the forum don't understand the post and all of a sudden we are having an election, government will be shut down and the entire infrastructure of the country is going to collapse. The doom and scare mongering as a result of a businessman worried about his wallet really sums up the lunacy of some on this forum It really made me laugh

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol"

Just stop and listen to yourself. The British way. It works? NHS waiting lists at record high. Knife crime rife. This country is in a mess and the cause is absolutely nothing to do with the EU.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol

This doesn't address any of the issues discussed in this thread. Or even make sense. Maybe you could clarify how "doing things the british way" will help us as the economy crumbles, food, fuel and medical supplies run short?You have zero sense of humour and little knowledge of Britishness"

[snort]

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"Tim Rycroft, corporate affairs director at the Food and Drink Federation, said: "The deadline is pretty much the worst date because it's peak Christmas pre-season, and warehouses are full.

"We think there will be some serious disruption and it will go on for weeks or months.

"Fresh food is obviously the tip of the iceberg but we expect that there will be shortages on a whole range of things.""

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think he also said "Michael Gove knows politics but I know food distribution."

He had just been talking about how any delay, never mind a long one, in the food distribution chain would become noticeable very quickly.

Good news for B&Q and the like, though. We'll all be digging for victory next spring.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

This is Britain we will do thins the British way,no more Euro organisation just our way it works lol"

Have you received a bang on the head? That is irrelevant drivel

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Fabio is right - 4/1 on fuel being rationed.

11/1 on milk.

In 2019.

In Britain.

Bookies offering odds on the first thing to be rationed.

"There are no downsides to Brexit, just a considerable upside"

- David Davies

How often do these people need to be exposed as fraudsters before the penny drops?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The UK is self sufficient in milk, and actually exports surplus.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental


"The UK is self sufficient in milk, and actually exports surplus. "

There will be plenty of milk from northern Ireland too. At least the NI diary farmers will not have to cull their diary herds (according to the BBC!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK is self sufficient in milk, and actually exports surplus. "

Come on. Think. Just a little bit, and you'll get there.....

Okay I'll help. If dairy farmers aren't able to export anymore. Some will........? Go out of business, which could result in dairy shortages.

Until the trade deal with the US is done and they start importing cheaply produced milk packed with growth hormones that are currently illegal in the EU. Which will then.......? Squeeze British dairy farmers even harder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK is self sufficient in milk, and actually exports surplus.

Come on. Think. Just a little bit, and you'll get there.....

Okay I'll help. If dairy farmers aren't able to export anymore. Some will........? Go out of business, which could result in dairy shortages.

Until the trade deal with the US is done and they start importing cheaply produced milk packed with growth hormones that are currently illegal in the EU. Which will then.......? Squeeze British dairy farmers even harder."

I think the implication is if farmers struggle to export, then we'd struggle to import. So those exporters mow serve the gap in the domestic market.

It seems the relative size of the import export market in raw milk is tiny compared to the domestic market, so seems like a fairly immune industry. Interesting it seems to be one the bookiesvare taking money on. Public perception versus reality...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most of the uk milk for exports is in powder form which is used in other products. Which we then buy back

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Paddy power offer 12/1 on food rationing to take more money off mugs. What odds they offering on no food rationing? The answer is they are not.I tried to lay a bet with them that there will be no rationing but funny enough you cant get to bet on that.Now ask yourself why that is,i love the way remainers get hysterical about anything they can to do with brexit.In a two horse race one where they wont lay odds and the other is 12/1 they are just after tempting a few quid off mug punters.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Paddy power offer 12/1 on food rationing to take more money off mugs. What odds they offering on no food rationing? The answer is they are not.I tried to lay a bet with them that there will be no rationing but funny enough you cant get to bet on that.Now ask yourself why that is,i love the way remainers get hysterical about anything they can to do with brexit.In a two horse race one where they wont lay odds and the other is 12/1 they are just after tempting a few quid off mug punters. "

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Which is why I prefer to listen to people from the industry rather than a bookmakers.

The UK normally holds enough food to feed itself for 10 days.

The perishable come and go on a just-in-time basis.

No-one knows for sure how much interruption there will be to the supply chain as a result of all this red tape you voted for.

No-one knows for sure how much prices will rise by as a result of the red tape you voted for.

No-one knows for sure how much panic buying there will be as a result of the red tape you voted for.

But the people with the most informed assessment of the likely impact are those in the industry.

They are the ones earning of shortages and interruptions to supply, as a result of all the red tape you voted for.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Which is why I prefer to listen to people from the industry rather than a bookmakers.

The UK normally holds enough food to feed itself for 10 days.

The perishable come and go on a just-in-time basis.

No-one knows for sure how much interruption there will be to the supply chain as a result of all this red tape you voted for.

No-one knows for sure how much prices will rise by as a result of the red tape you voted for.

No-one knows for sure how much panic buying there will be as a result of the red tape you voted for.

But the people with the most informed assessment of the likely impact are those in the industry.

They are the ones earning of shortages and interruptions to supply, as a result of all the red tape you voted for."

For someone who doesn't listen to bookmakers you sure made a big headline of it.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The bookmakers appear to be listening to industry, too, and pricing accordingly.

Unlike the Brexiteers, who appear to be putting fingers in their ears, again.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The bookmakers appear to be listening to industry, too, and pricing accordingly.

Unlike the Brexiteers, who appear to be putting fingers in their ears, again."

Why cant you get it in your head bookmakers are after your money nothing else, you try to find any bookmaker that will give you odds on no rationing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paddy power offer 12/1 on food rationing to take more money off mugs. What odds they offering on no food rationing? The answer is they are not.I tried to lay a bet with them that there will be no rationing but funny enough you cant get to bet on that.Now ask yourself why that is,i love the way remainers get hysterical about anything they can to do with brexit.In a two horse race one where they wont lay odds and the other is 12/1 they are just after tempting a few quid off mug punters. "

Paddy Power are always offering gimmick bets. It gets them headlines... I wonder how much they are actually taking.

But given the bet covers rationing coming in 2019, eg in the first two months only, I'd say the odds are stingy for something they'd see as never going to happen.

Especially when no deal is a million to one

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

12/1 sounds like a rank outsider to me. Would probably unseat its rider or get tailed off.

Methinks that no rationing would be 12/1 ON.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paddy power offer 12/1 on food rationing to take more money off mugs. What odds they offering on no food rationing? The answer is they are not.I tried to lay a bet with them that there will be no rationing but funny enough you cant get to bet on that.Now ask yourself why that is,i love the way remainers get hysterical about anything they can to do with brexit.In a two horse race one where they wont lay odds and the other is 12/1 they are just after tempting a few quid off mug punters. "

No one here is hysterical. We're just discussing and poking fun.

Also "remainers" aren't one group. We're all different people. And why shouldn't we consider these things, such as food shortages. Thus far Brexit is going exactly as we were told it would before the referendum. So there have been relatively few surprises. The risk of food, medicine and fuel shortages is real. Just like the pound nose diving, businesses closing or leaving, billions of pounds being waste etc. If you like to call reality "project fear" and like to refer to people who like to discuss what's going on in the world around them hysterical, then of course, for now, you're free to do so. But it doesn't reflect well on you.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"12/1 sounds like a rank outsider to me. Would probably unseat its rider or get tailed off.

Methinks that no rationing would be 12/1 ON. "

Exactly you would but i cant find anyone of them who would even give you 12/1 on.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"The bookmakers appear to be listening to industry, too, and pricing accordingly.

Unlike the Brexiteers, who appear to be putting fingers in their ears, again.Why cant you get it in your head bookmakers are after your money nothing else, you try to find any bookmaker that will give you odds on no rationing."

Feel free to start a thread about bookies.

This one is about the food and drink industry saying they do not share the confidence of Government that supplies will be unaffected.

You know, because of all that red tape and bureaucracy you voted to impose on their industry.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"The bookmakers appear to be listening to industry, too, and pricing accordingly.

Unlike the Brexiteers, who appear to be putting fingers in their ears, again.Why cant you get it in your head bookmakers are after your money nothing else, you try to find any bookmaker that will give you odds on no rationing.

Feel free to start a thread about bookies.

This one is about the food and drink industry saying they do not share the confidence of Government that supplies will be unaffected.

You know, because of all that red tape and bureaucracy you voted to impose on their industry."

you title a thread with a bookmaker and odds then call me out for talking about them.????????

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The Food and Drink Federation warned UK Government in late 2018 that rural areas without a chain supermarket were likely to be worst affected.

They asked Government to relax competition regs that prevent collaboration on supplies, so that stocks bound for, say, Aldi could be shared with independent shops in villages.

They are still waiting for a response.

The good news is that urban areas, which voted to remain, are least likely to be affected, and rural areas, which voted leave, are likely to be worst affected.

Every cloud has a silver lining, I guess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

PP odds are fun

Farage to be PM in 2019. 14 to 1.

Seems like leavers are equally gullible.

He's alomsot evens to be PM by 2025.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The more we talk about this and fuel the lies, the more the food industry will make it happen. There's money to be made out of fear.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"PP odds are fun

Farage to be PM in 2019. 14 to 1.

Seems like leavers are equally gullible.

He's alomsot evens to be PM by 2025.

"

Well you are only gullible if you choose to take them or post them as some justification.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"The more we talk about this and fuel the lies, the more the food industry will make it happen. There's money to be made out of fear."

Media fuelled panic buying ahead ...

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The UK is self sufficient in milk, and actually exports surplus.

Come on. Think. Just a little bit, and you'll get there.....

Okay I'll help. If dairy farmers aren't able to export anymore. Some will........? Go out of business, which could result in dairy shortages.

Until the trade deal with the US is done and they start importing cheaply produced milk packed with growth hormones that are currently illegal in the EU. Which will then.......? Squeeze British dairy farmers even harder."

I didn't mention dairy products, just milk.

I can find no analysis or assessment to say there would be milk rationing after a no deal Brexit anywhere. All supermarkets are tied in long term with their UK milk suppliers, and none of these have expressed any concern to having to ration milk.

Dairy products are a different matter. Should a no deal Brexit occur, and agreements cannot be reached on tariffs and standards, then some milk exporters may suffer. The Northern Irish milk producers have highlighted this, as they stand to lose the most.

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Food and Drink Federation warned UK Government in late 2018 that rural areas without a chain supermarket were likely to be worst affected.

They asked Government to relax competition regs that prevent collaboration on supplies, so that stocks bound for, say, Aldi could be shared with independent shops in villages.

They are still waiting for a response.

The good news is that urban areas, which voted to remain, are least likely to be affected, and rural areas, which voted leave, are likely to be worst affected.

Every cloud has a silver lining, I guess."

I guess whatever bad happens if we no deal Brexit then that's exactly what leavers voted for, I just feel sorry for remainers if they get affected.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

12 to 1 is the odds now on fiid rationing and as it stands the odds on a no deal brexit are 7/5 so still unlikely. If we did leave or look very likely to leave with a no deal expect the odds on food rationing to tumble to 2 or 3 to 1. Petrol rationing probably around evens.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind."

Let me help you with this question:

In 9 years they have deliberately made Britain a 'toxic environment' for those they deem unworthy where ideological austerity (for the many) has been used to cut national and local government budgets by around 30% in the false name of balancing the books, while our government has doubled the national debt to fund tax cuts for the richest individuals and corporations.

But, hey, don't listen to me, I'm a Corbyn supporting lefty, so anything I say can be dismissed as commie propaganda...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter. "

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Food and Drink Federation warned UK Government in late 2018 that rural areas without a chain supermarket were likely to be worst affected.

They asked Government to relax competition regs that prevent collaboration on supplies, so that stocks bound for, say, Aldi could be shared with independent shops in villages.

They are still waiting for a response.

The good news is that urban areas, which voted to remain, are least likely to be affected, and rural areas, which voted leave, are likely to be worst affected.

Every cloud has a silver lining, I guess.

I guess whatever bad happens if we no deal Brexit then that's exactly what leavers voted for, I just feel sorry for remainers if they get affected. "

We will all be effected negatively. Unless we're members of the political elite or in the top 1% in wealth. In which case the good times will roll.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


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No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily."

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

No one will bat an eye lid about any trade deals that the Government subsequently negotiate because the negotiations will be conducted secretly and without accountability.

This is one of the great ironies of the position that we find ourselves in. Being in the EU, we all know about the Single Market and the Customs Union and the U.K. is (was) instrumental in shaping EU policies. Future trade deals between the U.K. and (as an example) the US will be negotiated in secret and we won’t complain, because we won’t know anything about the negotiations.

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

"

I think you will find two world wars we more threatening than brexit

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Unless or until Parliament decides otherwise, e.g. ratification of a trade agreement that requires changes to UK regulatory standards to enable non-compliant products to be imported.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

I think you will find two world wars we more threatening than brexit "

In living memory? That would make you at least 78 years of age.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

"

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot


"The more we talk about this and fuel the lies, the more the food industry will make it happen. There's money to be made out of fear."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

Can't watch the news anymore, how did we get here ? Absolute idiots in charge

"

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?"

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The more we talk about this and fuel the lies, the more the food industry will make it happen. There's money to be made out of fear. "

"There's money to be made out of fear".

If the leave campaign had honest slogans. This would have been it. Haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

"

Okay then I am saying that will not be accepted by the US. And either we will have no trade deal. Or we will have to change the food safety standards.

I don't really understand why this is a discussion point. This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. It's been one of the main driving forces behind the whole thing.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

I think you will find two world wars we more threatening than brexit "

They did say living memory. I doubt anyone alive in this country can remember WW1.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

Okay then I am saying that will not be accepted by the US. And either we will have no trade deal. Or we will have to change the food safety standards.

I don't really understand why this is a discussion point. This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. It's been one of the main driving forces behind the whole thing. "

I couldn’t possibly comment on what the US may or may not accept in negotiating.

But I do accept that you have an opinion.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"The bookmakers appear to be listening to industry, too, and pricing accordingly.

Unlike the Brexiteers, who appear to be putting fingers in their ears, again.Why cant you get it in your head bookmakers are after your money nothing else, you try to find any bookmaker that will give you odds on no rationing.

Feel free to start a thread about bookies.

This one is about the food and drink industry saying they do not share the confidence of Government that supplies will be unaffected.

."

Er... So Paddy Power isn't a bookie, and 12/1 are not odds?

Looks very much like a bookie thread to me.

Either that or another remainer wank fest thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

Okay then I am saying that will not be accepted by the US. And either we will have no trade deal. Or we will have to change the food safety standards.

I don't really understand why this is a discussion point. This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. It's been one of the main driving forces behind the whole thing.

I couldn’t possibly comment on what the US may or may not accept in negotiating.

But I do accept that you have an opinion.

"

Fair enough. It's just a forum for opinions and discussion though.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

Okay then I am saying that will not be accepted by the US. And either we will have no trade deal. Or we will have to change the food safety standards.

I don't really understand why this is a discussion point. This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. It's been one of the main driving forces behind the whole thing.

I couldn’t possibly comment on what the US may or may not accept in negotiating.

But I do accept that you have an opinion.

Fair enough. It's just a forum for opinions and discussion though. "

Yes, I just said that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

Okay then I am saying that will not be accepted by the US. And either we will have no trade deal. Or we will have to change the food safety standards.

I don't really understand why this is a discussion point. This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. It's been one of the main driving forces behind the whole thing.

I couldn’t possibly comment on what the US may or may not accept in negotiating.

But I do accept that you have an opinion.

Fair enough. It's just a forum for opinions and discussion though.

Yes, I just said that "

Erm. Why are you making an issue of me agreeing with you?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

Okay then I am saying that will not be accepted by the US. And either we will have no trade deal. Or we will have to change the food safety standards.

I don't really understand why this is a discussion point. This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. It's been one of the main driving forces behind the whole thing.

I couldn’t possibly comment on what the US may or may not accept in negotiating.

But I do accept that you have an opinion.

Fair enough. It's just a forum for opinions and discussion though.

Yes, I just said that

Erm. Why are you making an issue of me agreeing with you?"

Erm. I agreed and gave you a thumbs up.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex


"

No one has mentioned importing milk from the USA. It doesn't comply with current EU standards, and is a non starter.

Yes! Now we're getting down to it. There has been plenty of talk of food produce being included in the US trade deals post Brexit. And very soon we will be out of the UK and the EU will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.

This is one of the core purposes of Brexit. And one of the main reasons the US pumped so much cash into the leave campaign and why Trump is wading in heavily.

Chair and Board of the Food Standards Agency has confirmed that food safety standards will not be reduced after the UK leaves the EU.

So you're suggesting that either the US is prepared to compromise or make concessions on the trade deals, or that we will be so desperate, that we will compromise on food safety standards?

I’m not actually suggesting anything.

You said “And very soon we will be out of the EU and the Uk will be able to remove the EU food safety standards.”

I replied by confirming the FSA have confirmed food standards will not be changed after we leave the EU.

"

The FSA dont decide on that though do they? I bet you a chlorinated chicken that within 5 years, we will have junked all of the EU regs on food safety and adopted US standards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes, I read today how, in the event of a no confidence vote in September, Johnson (or his sidekick Cummings) will put off an election until . . .

October 31 or November 1.

Imagine that!

The country facing its biggest crisis in living memory, the civil service in lockdown for six weeks and the Ministers all out in the country kissing babies.

Is there no limit to the lunacy?

"

.

Every time I log in to this forum I think the same thing

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"The FSA dont decide on that though do they? I bet you a chlorinated chicken that within 5 years, we will have junked all of the EU regs on food safety and adopted US standards "

Who decides on food standards and safety?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple ."

Unless it's like gmo, one would need to avoid chicken all together. I can't imagine every sandwich etc will say that they contain chlorinated chicken.

Wonder what else we will be having to avoid...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lord Haskins, who chairs the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership and is the former chairman of Hull-based Hull Foods, was asked on Radio 4 about concerns of a food shortage unless competition rules are relaxed.

"The government thinks the food will flow normally as before but I have my doubts. I think there will be some panic-buying and that will create shortages.

"We could be in a war-time situation of limited amount of food rationing.

"Those who can remember the war, that took a long time to put in place ands it was pretty haphazard and pretty unfair.

"Now I don't think we will get to that but I am very concerned about the groups who aren't in the supermarket chains and how they would deal with things."

Tim Rycroft, corporate affairs director at the Food and Drink Federation, said: "The deadline is pretty much the worst date because it's peak Christmas pre-season, and warehouses are full.

"We think there will be some serious disruption and it will go on for weeks or months.

"Fresh food is obviously the tip of the iceberg but we expect that there will be shortages on a whole range of things."

Just imagine how popular the Government will be in these circumstances?

"

Great business for William Hill . They are taking bets on a situation where there no possibility of having to pay out . As far as I am aware there have been no major crop failures this year. The idea is laughable. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

"

I absolutely agree with what you are saying but would suggest the UK is led at the moment by extremely rich people with a huge sense of entitlement to protect that wealth but worse, who would pass laws and rule that do not, by their wealth, apply to them but hammer those with much less that they.

The UK is not alone in this- sadly they are following the US.

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By *iltsguy200Man
over a year ago

Warminster


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

"

What happens to the Government when Parliament is dissolved?

Parliament and Government are two separate institutions.

The Government does NOT resign when Parliament is dissolved. Government ministers remain in charge of their departments. The role of minister is independent of the role of MP.

Ministers keep their ministerial titles after dissolution, but MPs can no longer use MP in their name.

The Cabinet Manual sets out the main laws, rules and conventions affecting the conduct and operation of government.

In the period immediately before an election or referendum there are restrictions on the use of public resources and activities of civil servants. This pre-election period is also known as the ‘period of sensitivity’ and has often been referred to as ‘purdah’.

During a general election Ministers remain in office and in charge of their departments but it is customary for them to observe discretion in announcing initiatives that are new or of a long-term character in their capacity as a minister. It does not prevent ministers from campaigning on their party manifesto in their role as politicians seeking election.

The general principle for ministers, as outlined in the Ministerial Code of Conduct, is that departmental resources and facilities are provided at Government expense to enable them to carry out their official duties. These facilities should not generally be used for party or constituency activities.

The pre-election period before general elections is NOT regulated by STATUTE , but governed by conventions based largely on the Civil Service Code. The Cabinet Office issues guidance for civil servants in UK government departments, and the staff and members of non-departmental public bodies (NDPBs) and other arm’s length bodies (ALBs) on their role and conduct during election and referendum campaigns.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

I absolutely agree with what you are saying but would suggest the UK is led at the moment by extremely rich people with a huge sense of entitlement to protect that wealth but worse, who would pass laws and rule that do not, by their wealth, apply to them but hammer those with much less that they.

The UK is not alone in this- sadly they are following the US."

Yeah let’s get Dave the crack head from Stockport who sleeps in a bus stop to run the country, at least he can represent us real people

“ UK is led at the moment by extremely rich people with a huge sense of entitlement to protect that wealth “ can’t really think of many who haven’t to be fair

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"Lord Haskins, who chairs the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership and is the former chairman of Hull-based Hull Foods, was asked on Radio 4 about concerns of a food shortage unless competition rules are relaxed.

"The government thinks the food will flow normally as before but I have my doubts. I think there will be some panic-buying and that will create shortages.

"We could be in a war-time situation of limited amount of food rationing.

"Those who can remember the war, that took a long time to put in place ands it was pretty haphazard and pretty unfair.

"Now I don't think we will get to that but I am very concerned about the groups who aren't in the supermarket chains and how they would deal with things."

Tim Rycroft, corporate affairs director at the Food and Drink Federation, said: "The deadline is pretty much the worst date because it's peak Christmas pre-season, and warehouses are full.

"We think there will be some serious disruption and it will go on for weeks or months.

"Fresh food is obviously the tip of the iceberg but we expect that there will be shortages on a whole range of things."

Just imagine how popular the Government will be in these circumstances?

Great business for William Hill . They are taking bets on a situation where there no possibility of having to pay out . As far as I am aware there have been no major crop failures this year. The idea is laughable. ."

I agree food rationing is unlikely. Any Food will, apart from the first few weeks or months of chaos at the ports, be able freely to come to the uk. Rationing won't be needed as the market will control supply, with the probability that some or all food will become more expensive due to tariffs and addition importing costs, this will control demand. Also if things got really bad then the government would drop its food and hygiene standards to allow import of cheaper food with lower standards to be imported.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, purdah is the period when the civil service must stay out the spotlight and do nothing that is politically controversial.

Cannot think what that might in the six weeks leading up to Brexit day. Everything will be very dull, I,m sure.

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas


". Also if things got really bad then the government would drop its food and hygiene standards to allow import of cheaper food with lower standards to be imported."
. Nothing to worry about then

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple ."

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"The UK is self sufficient in milk, and actually exports surplus. "

We used to have hosepipe bans in Kent whilst there were floods in the north.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

"

That's an interesting point. I guess we either don't think about it for the two weeks, allow lower standards because of the benefits of the place, or just have higher tolerance to risk.

But just because I'd maybe accept getting in a rickety old car in Brazil doesn't mean I'd like us to get rid of Mots.

I also suspect there are people are okay with Muslim law on holidays yet wouldn't welcome it here...

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I don't think the issue is about quantity of supply from abroad.

It's about delays at ports causing perishable goods to waste.

That, and the effects of panic buying.

It's the same issue with supplies of nuclear medicine from the Netherlands.

If they get held up at ports, they perish and become useless.

So the Government chartered a plane back in March in case it needed to fly in supplies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

"

How will anyone know if they're buying chlorine washed chicken. (Which is the least of the worries when it comes to food safety standards in America).

The rules that govern food labelling, including country of origin, are from the EU.

So they can just remove the labelling laws.

Again, this is all at the core of why we left the EU. It's not just about the ultra rich avoiding paying tax. There's much more to it.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

How will anyone know if they're buying chlorine washed chicken. (Which is the least of the worries when it comes to food safety standards in America).

The rules that govern food labelling, including country of origin, are from the EU.

So they can just remove the labelling laws.

Again, this is all at the core of why we left the EU. It's not just about the ultra rich avoiding paying tax. There's much more to it."

Food labelling regulations are covered by the FSA

See discussion earlier today ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

How will anyone know if they're buying chlorine washed chicken. (Which is the least of the worries when it comes to food safety standards in America).

The rules that govern food labelling, including country of origin, are from the EU.

So they can just remove the labelling laws.

Again, this is all at the core of why we left the EU. It's not just about the ultra rich avoiding paying tax. There's much more to it.

Food labelling regulations are covered by the FSA

See discussion earlier today ...

"

For sure. And as soon as we're out of the EU. The FSA is then free to change the standards and labelling laws. Again. Removing "EU red tape" is one of the core purposes of Brexit.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

How will anyone know if they're buying chlorine washed chicken. (Which is the least of the worries when it comes to food safety standards in America).

The rules that govern food labelling, including country of origin, are from the EU.

So they can just remove the labelling laws.

Again, this is all at the core of why we left the EU. It's not just about the ultra rich avoiding paying tax. There's much more to it.

Food labelling regulations are covered by the FSA

See discussion earlier today ...

For sure. And as soon as we're out of the EU. The FSA is then free to change the standards and labelling laws. Again. Removing "EU red tape" is one of the core purposes of Brexit. "

Red tape is one thing... standards are something different.

The FSA have confirmed standards will not change after we leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Consumer pressure on food standards will be the driving force here.

The supermarkets can fill their shelves as high as they want with chlorine washed chicken, but if no one buys it, then it'll not appear again.

I have to admit, when I travel beyond the EU, I don't research food standards, and I doubt others do either.

How will anyone know if they're buying chlorine washed chicken. (Which is the least of the worries when it comes to food safety standards in America).

The rules that govern food labelling, including country of origin, are from the EU.

So they can just remove the labelling laws.

Again, this is all at the core of why we left the EU. It's not just about the ultra rich avoiding paying tax. There's much more to it.

Food labelling regulations are covered by the FSA

See discussion earlier today ...

For sure. And as soon as we're out of the EU. The FSA is then free to change the standards and labelling laws. Again. Removing "EU red tape" is one of the core purposes of Brexit.

Red tape is one thing... standards are something different.

The FSA have confirmed standards will not change after we leave"

I feel exhausted talking about this. I mean, if this isn't an example of what red tape the Tories and the Americas want to remove post Brexit. Then what is?

If it's not this then what is Brexit all about?

I don't buy that it's just about rich people avoiding the EU tax clamp down.

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over a year ago


"

For sure. And as soon as we're out of the EU. The FSA is then free to change the standards and labelling laws. Again. Removing "EU red tape" is one of the core purposes of Brexit. "

Do you not see it as something good that food produce has to be of a certain high standard and say where it's come from ?

i

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

For sure. And as soon as we're out of the EU. The FSA is then free to change the standards and labelling laws. Again. Removing "EU red tape" is one of the core purposes of Brexit.

Do you not see it as something good that food produce has to be of a certain high standard and say where it's come from ?

i"

Indeed I absolutely do.

What I am saying is that removing the food safety standards, food labelling laws is one of the objectives of Brexit. It is required to enable a trade deal with America. Which is why so much money came to the leave campaign from the US.

EU "red tape" that the Tories are desperate to remove is largely there for good reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Unless it's like gmo, one would need to avoid chicken all together. I can't imagine every sandwich etc will say that they contain chlorinated chicken.

Wonder what else we will be having to avoid..."

.

Name me a product that doesn't state it's GMO, and after that tell me why scientists who research this shit and declare it safe are wrong.

I'm really interested to know why you bunch of fuckwits know better than scientists and experts who've declared this safe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chlorinated chicken is the lefts dog whistle for violent uprisings,omg look what the right are forcing you to eat

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Chlorinated chicken is the lefts dog whistle for violent uprisings,omg look what the right are forcing you to eat "

And the chickens are racist also with close ties with Russia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's billionaires getting together in secret hotels and deciding to force this crap down left wing idiots mouths.

You've got no free will, they force you to eat it in your sleep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Chlorinated chicken is the lefts dog whistle for violent uprisings,omg look what the right are forcing you to eat

And the chickens are racist also with close ties with Russia "

.

I would imagine every chicken is a Putin fanboy.

If only we could have a massive multi year inquiry into why leftist halfwit fucking morons managed to fuck up yet another election.

Wait no we had that, it just proved the left are conspiracy theory fuckwits like this thread.

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over a year ago

It's not surpassing to be honest, the sheer amount of them that openly declare there love for (skunk), p0ppers and other illegal drugs that are known to fuck your head up is.. Well it's heavily balanced to leftist crazies but no, it's that chlorinated chicken that's our to get them

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I'm sure there must be a logic somewhere to wanting to follow the standards and regulations of a marketplace 4500 miles away instead of one that is 20 miles away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a simple solution to all those objecting.

Just don't buy chlorinated chicken, it's like really simple .

Unless it's like gmo, one would need to avoid chicken all together. I can't imagine every sandwich etc will say that they contain chlorinated chicken.

Wonder what else we will be having to avoid....

Name me a product that doesn't state it's GMO, and after that tell me why scientists who research this shit and declare it safe are wrong.

I'm really interested to know why you bunch of fuckwits know better than scientists and experts who've declared this safe.

"

I didn't explain myself well.

Will a chicken sandwich, KFC, etc have to disclose there is (or may be) chlorinated chicken in their food?

If not, the only way one. An avoid chlorinated chocked is to avoid chicken all together.

(i though gmo had to be stated on a label to give people choice. That is all. I make no comment about their safety)

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

If the UK is importing chicken products that are prohibited in the EU, the UK will be prohibited from exporting chicken products to the EU.

Lots of chick-wire on the Irish border

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Uk food standards are not changing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not surpassing to be honest, the sheer amount of them that openly declare there love for (skunk), p0ppers and other illegal drugs that are known to fuck your head up is.. Well it's heavily balanced to leftist crazies but no, it's that chlorinated chicken that's our to get them

"

This is my favourite post I've seen since I've been here.

I especially enjoy it's random nature. The third of three in a row where you seem quite angry, but not really sure why, or who you're angry at.

I also enjoy how you associate people who are concerned about food safety standards as "leftist crazies".

I like the rambling section about drugs, but it's not clear who you're referring to. Ironically, you give the impression that you were high when you posted this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

"

I love how you're hanging on to this.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

"

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA."

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this."

Why would they say different?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA."

Ex fsa agency head said chlorinated chicken is not abouts safety but animal welfare. Its used to make up for chickens being kept in shit conditions or something.

So theres the get out clause.

Although the wider point is US tend to have lower standards... Chlorinated chicken is just the poster boy. So hopefully we will be keeping toxins etc out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

Ex fsa agency head said chlorinated chicken is not abouts safety but animal welfare. Its used to make up for chickens being kept in shit conditions or something.

So theres the get out clause.

Although the wider point is US tend to have lower standards... Chlorinated chicken is just the poster boy. So hopefully we will be keeping toxins etc out. "

Chlorinated chicken is a minor worry. The use of growth hormones is a much bigger problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?"

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

Ex fsa agency head said chlorinated chicken is not abouts safety but animal welfare. Its used to make up for chickens being kept in shit conditions or something.

So theres the get out clause.

Although the wider point is US tend to have lower standards... Chlorinated chicken is just the poster boy. So hopefully we will be keeping toxins etc out. "

Yes

And the FSA will maintain the same level of food standards being allowed in to the food chain.

Being out of the EU doesn’t mean we drop the standards and regulations for the food coming in to the uk.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

"

That really makes no sense and I don’t know why you keep hanging on to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

Ex fsa agency head said chlorinated chicken is not abouts safety but animal welfare. Its used to make up for chickens being kept in shit conditions or something.

So theres the get out clause.

Although the wider point is US tend to have lower standards... Chlorinated chicken is just the poster boy. So hopefully we will be keeping toxins etc out.

Yes

And the FSA will maintain the same level of food standards being allowed in to the food chain.

Being out of the EU doesn’t mean we drop the standards and regulations for the food coming in to the uk.

"

It shouldn't do, I agree.

But I do wonder if there will be pressure to find ways of squinting if we have no fta with Europe and the US is the being negotiated...

But I am black hat.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

In absence of safeguards for the Belfast Agreement, there won't be any trade agreement with the US, so I suspect it is all pretty academic stuff until the Brexiteers come up with a satisfactory solution to the problem they created.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" But I am black hat. "

I do t know this term and when I searched it I can only find reference to hacking

Are you a hacker ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol. No.

It's a term used for when you look what could go wrong in a plan. I think it's Edward de bono.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Are you thinking of "black swan"?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Lol. No.

It's a term used for when you look what could go wrong in a plan. I think it's Edward de bono. "

got it now

Black – logic applied to identifying reasons to be cautious and conservative. Practical, realistic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lol. No.

It's a term used for when you look what could go wrong in a plan. I think it's Edward de bono.

got it now

Black – logic applied to identifying reasons to be cautious and conservative. Practical, realistic.

"

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Lol. No.

It's a term used for when you look what could go wrong in a plan. I think it's Edward de bono.

got it now

Black – logic applied to identifying reasons to be cautious and conservative. Practical, realistic.

"

Yellow possibly green for me I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lord Haskins, who chairs the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership and is the former chairman of Hull-based Hull Foods, was asked on Radio 4 about concerns of a food shortage unless competition rules are relaxed.

"The government thinks the food will flow normally as before but I have my doubts. I think there will be some panic-buying and that will create shortages.

"We could be in a war-time situation of limited amount of food rationing.

"Those who can remember the war, that took a long time to put in place ands it was pretty haphazard and pretty unfair.

"Now I don't think we will get to that but I am very concerned about the groups who aren't in the supermarket chains and how they would deal with things."

Tim Rycroft, corporate affairs director at the Food and Drink Federation, said: "The deadline is pretty much the worst date because it's peak Christmas pre-season, and warehouses are full.

"We think there will be some serious disruption and it will go on for weeks or months.

"Fresh food is obviously the tip of the iceberg but we expect that there will be shortages on a whole range of things."

Just imagine how popular the Government will be in these circumstances?

"

What, so you mean that Lindt chocolate, Mars Bars, tomatoes, pet foods and fabric conditioner might be rationed?

I'm okay, I'll be eating Cornish pasties, Stilton cheese and wrapped up toasty warm in native Shetland wool clothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

At the most critical period in living memory, for six weeks there may be no government, no functioning civil service, no crisis management, no emergency measures - just an election

Is Britain being run by stupid people or wicked people?

I really cannot make up mind.

Generally, in my experience, good ideas don't cost billions in risk mitigation, involve the suspension of parliament and the stockpiling of food.

Absolute fucking lunacy.

I absolutely agree with what you are saying but would suggest the UK is led at the moment by extremely rich people with a huge sense of entitlement to protect that wealth but worse, who would pass laws and rule that do not, by their wealth, apply to them but hammer those with much less that they.

The UK is not alone in this- sadly they are following the US.

Yeah let’s get Dave the crack head from Stockport who sleeps in a bus stop to run the country, at least he can represent us real people

“ UK is led at the moment by extremely rich people with a huge sense of entitlement to protect that wealth “ can’t really think of many who haven’t to be fair"

Really? Politicians who retain their integrity regarding doing the best for as many of their constituents as possible and who leave self-interest out of their day job? And whatever else they do? There have been a few....

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

"

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anybody noticed how much food is actually wasted by this country or unnecessarily produced. We might begin to consider food a bit more closely then and realise what can be done with very little.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it "

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

"

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Has anybody noticed how much food is actually wasted by this country or unnecessarily produced. We might begin to consider food a bit more closely then and realise what can be done with very little. "

Yes, we are greedy 24/7 as a population. We just want to consume. We have been very well trained

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now"

Indeed. Personally I voted against it. But sadly more people turned up on the day and voted for exactly this.

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By *ara J OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

We relied on idiots in Brussels to make sensible rules for us.

Now we need to rely on idiots in London to make sensible rules for us.

Okay, I get that.

Do I trust the idiots in Brussels or the idiots in London?

Hmmmm, let me think . . .

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

Indeed. Personally I voted against it. But sadly more people turned up on the day and voted for exactly this."

Arrggghhh those bloody food safety standards haters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

Indeed. Personally I voted against it. But sadly more people turned up on the day and voted for exactly this.

Arrggghhh those bloody food safety standards haters "

Try speaking to some people who voted leave maybe?

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By *retty GoodMan
over a year ago

Cardiff Bay


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

Indeed. Personally I voted against it. But sadly more people turned up on the day and voted for exactly this.

Arrggghhh those bloody food safety standards haters

Try speaking to some people who voted leave maybe? "

I can’t, I just can’t stand those bloody food safety standards haters, arrgghh makes me so mad

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Uk food standards are not changing

I love how you're hanging on to this.

Yes - It’s what has been stated by the FSA.

That's what I mean. Love how you believe this.

Why would they say different?

Because it's their job to enforce current food safety standards.

But really, let's be honest. What is the point of Brexit if it's not to do things like remove food safety standards? There is a big picture here.

O shit so the real reason for brexit and all this uproar over the last few years and the millions spent was so the food safety standard can be removed

Riiiiight now I get it

I said it's one of the reasons. Not "the real reason". It's required to get a trade deal with the US.

Feel free to engage in the post but deliberately missing someone's point is silly.

And the spending and cost of Brexit is way past the "millions", it's into the billions.

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

What do we want

Food safety standard to be removed

When do we want it

Now

Indeed. Personally I voted against it. But sadly more people turned up on the day and voted for exactly this.

Arrggghhh those bloody food safety standards haters

Try speaking to some people who voted leave maybe?

I can’t, I just can’t stand those bloody food safety standards haters, arrgghh makes me so mad "

Amongst other frightening reductions, food standards was known by all leave voters to be at least changed and by default lowered

Same with safety standards , working standards , holiday standards

Sovereignty apparently, the is currently nothing preventing the UK working to higher or stricter quality standards , only prevents the UK from lowering, to us standards for example

So every brexiteer , who we are informed made an intelligent and informed decision, decided they wanted lower standards and less regulation of those who hold enough money to exploit the public

Yey

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