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"And he's OK with the far right nazi supporting morons walking the streets making sieg heil salutes.. Or is it more deflection to keep his paedophile friend off the front pages.. " Hahahahahahaha | |||
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"Fascists have always outlawed those that oppose them, in fact it is one of the traits that define Fascism." 
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"Well given that much of their activity is violent and more akin to terrorism, I can’t see why he wouldn’t class them as such. " But they are not the "side" that have killed people. That mainly seems to be the violent right wingers they are opposing. | |||
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"Fascists have always outlawed those that oppose them, in fact it is one of the traits that define Fascism." Same as communism | |||
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"Fascists have always outlawed those that oppose them, in fact it is one of the traits that define Fascism.Same as communism" You actually mean Stalinism/Leninism/Authoritarianism. What you think of as communist states are not communist. There has never been a communist state. Just authoritarian with the projection of a collective and oppression of it’s citizens. | |||
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"I'm not really sure how that would work, given anti-fa isn't an 'organisation'. It's a name that local groups can adopt. There's no 'leader of antifa' for example. I guess you could ban the name being used? That's about it. " I thought that this was the case too. He just half-heard and half-understood something whilst on the toilet. | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them." Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it. | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it." . Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them  | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them "Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine. Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt. You really couldn't have picked a worse example | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them
Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine.
Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt.
You really couldn't have picked a worse example "There was also that Caliphate thing | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them
Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine.
Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt.
You really couldn't have picked a worse example ". Antifa run all their activities through encrypted websites and social media platforms just like Isis do, the only reason we know who the leaders of the various groups of Isis camps are is because the intelligence services have been monitoring them for decades as a proscribed terrorists organisation. What we do see from antifa is dress code, flags, tactics all being passed along from group to group, far left, anti capitalism, no borders, communists there mo is pretty common, they've become increasingly violent over recent years from looting and burning to daytime thuggery all centred around political activism. I've got no problem whatsoever with trumps decision, in fact I'd have done it last year. | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them
Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine.
Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt.
You really couldn't have picked a worse example .
Antifa run all their activities through encrypted websites and social media platforms just like Isis do, the only reason we know who the leaders of the various groups of Isis camps are is because the intelligence services have been monitoring them for decades as a proscribed terrorists organisation.
What we do see from antifa is dress code, flags, tactics all being passed along from group to group, far left, anti capitalism, no borders, communists there mo is pretty common, they've become increasingly violent over recent years from looting and burning to daytime thuggery all centred around political activism.
I've got no problem whatsoever with trumps decision, in fact I'd have done it last year.
"Ah. Conspiracy that we cannot know the purpose of. The best type of conspiracy 
I'm not saying that they aren't often violent fuckwits, but have you any idea what their purpose is?
Did you break the code? | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them
Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine.
Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt.
You really couldn't have picked a worse example .
Antifa run all their activities through encrypted websites and social media platforms just like Isis do, the only reason we know who the leaders of the various groups of Isis camps are is because the intelligence services have been monitoring them for decades as a proscribed terrorists organisation.
What we do see from antifa is dress code, flags, tactics all being passed along from group to group, far left, anti capitalism, no borders, communists there mo is pretty common, they've become increasingly violent over recent years from looting and burning to daytime thuggery all centred around political activism.
I've got no problem whatsoever with trumps decision, in fact I'd have done it last year.
Ah.
Conspiracy that we cannot know the purpose of.
The best type of conspiracy
I'm not saying that they aren't often violent fuckwits, but have you any idea what their purpose is?
Did you break the code?". What conspiracy?. I've quoted the actual FBI, unless you think the American intelligence agencies are caught up in conspiracies!. You don't think that do you? | |||
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"I don't know much about this Antifa, but they sound formidable. I mean it seems the French authorities can't deal too well with them from what I've heard. Even though they're very effective at shooting the eyes and hands off their own citizens, with no apology and no compensation that I know of, with not a lot of reporting from the usual suspects BBC, Sky News etc. (too busy focusing hours and ours on what Donald Trump has said this week). France have also introduced laws basically saying anyone can be arrested at any time for being suspected of going to demonstrate. No warrant. No judge. No appeal. No rights?"
Ah Antifa, a loosely assembled bunch of pricks, wearing all black and using violence and thuggery to get what they want. Looting, destruction of property, arson and disregard for anyone who gets in their way and looks like he/she disagrees with them. There MO sounds pretty familiar to the very thing they gob off about hating.
On their own they are nothing, in a group they feed off of their warped ideologies egging each other on, with mob mentality.
Even Anarchists are beginning to dislike them these days. | |||
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"I don't know much about this Antifa, but they sound formidable. I mean it seems the French authorities can't deal too well with them from what I've heard. Even though they're very effective at shooting the eyes and hands off their own citizens, with no apology and no compensation that I know of, with not a lot of reporting from the usual suspects BBC, Sky News etc. (too busy focusing hours and ours on what Donald Trump has said this week). France have also introduced laws basically saying anyone can be arrested at any time for being suspected of going to demonstrate. No warrant. No judge. No appeal. No rights?
Ah Antifa, a loosely assembled bunch of pricks, wearing all black and using violence and thuggery to get what they want. Looting, destruction of property, arson and disregard for anyone who gets in their way and looks like he/she disagrees with them. There MO sounds pretty familiar to the very thing they gob off about hating.
On their own they are nothing, in a group they feed off of their warped ideologies egging each other on, with mob mentality.
Even Anarchists are beginning to dislike them these days. "To be fair Don’t forget the antifa terrorist guy Willem Van Spronsen who threw incendiary devices at a Washington detention centre and was armed with a rifle. He is now celebrated by antifa | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them
Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine.
Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt.
You really couldn't have picked a worse example .
Antifa run all their activities through encrypted websites and social media platforms just like Isis do, the only reason we know who the leaders of the various groups of Isis camps are is because the intelligence services have been monitoring them for decades as a proscribed terrorists organisation.
What we do see from antifa is dress code, flags, tactics all being passed along from group to group, far left, anti capitalism, no borders, communists there mo is pretty common, they've become increasingly violent over recent years from looting and burning to daytime thuggery all centred around political activism.
I've got no problem whatsoever with trumps decision, in fact I'd have done it last year.
Ah.
Conspiracy that we cannot know the purpose of.
The best type of conspiracy
I'm not saying that they aren't often violent fuckwits, but have you any idea what their purpose is?
Did you break the code?.
What conspiracy?.
I've quoted the actual FBI, unless you think the American intelligence agencies are caught up in conspiracies!.
You don't think that do you?"What FBI quote? | |||
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"Well considering one of its members took a rifle And fire bombed a federal building in the intent of killing the workers inside I really don't see how trump couldn't designate this group a terrorist organisation. And that's not even looking at the constant tweets they put out on having "a siege in Texas" or "punch a Nazi (or anybody else you disagree with)". While there at it, why don't they round up Bob deniro, Madonna and half the CNN cast and slap some changes on them. Member? Member of what? Who gave them the card? What are the aims? It's just an undefined label used by whoever chooses to use it.. Isis Where's the card Who issues membership Your ridiculous at times This is one of them
Isis is an organisation. It has a leadership, a militia, a management structure, etc. I believe at one point it even had its own propaganda magazine.
Anti-fa is a name that local groups adopt.
You really couldn't have picked a worse example .
Antifa run all their activities through encrypted websites and social media platforms just like Isis do, the only reason we know who the leaders of the various groups of Isis camps are is because the intelligence services have been monitoring them for decades as a proscribed terrorists organisation.
What we do see from antifa is dress code, flags, tactics all being passed along from group to group, far left, anti capitalism, no borders, communists there mo is pretty common, they've become increasingly violent over recent years from looting and burning to daytime thuggery all centred around political activism.
I've got no problem whatsoever with trumps decision, in fact I'd have done it last year.
Ah.
Conspiracy that we cannot know the purpose of.
The best type of conspiracy
I'm not saying that they aren't often violent fuckwits, but have you any idea what their purpose is?
Did you break the code?.
What conspiracy?.
I've quoted the actual FBI, unless you think the American intelligence agencies are caught up in conspiracies!.
You don't think that do you?
What FBI quote?". It's all FBI quotes, why do you think the FBI are contributing to conspiracies?. | |||
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"Is antifa an actual group. Or is it something you can just label yourself. " The latter. | |||
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"Is antifa an actual group. Or is it something you can just label yourself. The latter. " Is it an option you can list on here as your interests or orientation | |||
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"Is antifa an actual group. Or is it something you can just label yourself. The latter. Is it an option you can list on here as your interests or orientation "I'm antifat.  | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out?" So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that " .
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that " What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence? Who is "Antifa" and who is not? | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that "What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence? Who is "Antifa" and who is not? | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence? Who is "Antifa" and who is not?" What makes them terrorists? ,,,, terrorism noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. What does Antifa want? ,,, a bath, toothpaste and a job What acts of terror do they carry out? ,, the Washington detention centre attack On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence? ,, against fashion and personal hygiene, yes Who is "Antifa" and who is not? ,, people who say they are anfifa and everyone else who dosent | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?"What makes them terrorists? ,,,, terrorism noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. What does Antifa want? ,,, a bath, toothpaste and a job What acts of terror do they carry out? ,, the Washington detention centre attack On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence? ,, against fashion and personal hygiene, yes Who is "Antifa" and who is not? ,, people who say they are anfifa and everyone else who dosent | |||
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"Definition of antifa 1 : a person or group actively opposing fascism The groups … prominently featured about 100 Christian ministers in clerical garb, angry Charlottesville residents, peace advocates, Black Lives Matter activists, and self-styled anti-fascists who call themselves "antifas" … — Peter Weber After the war, Antifas varied in size and composition across the former Reich, now divided into four zones of occupation, and developed in interaction with the local occupying power. — Loren Balhorn 2 : an anti-fascist movement Antifa is the backlash to the backlash, a defensive response to the growing presence of right-wing extremism. — Todd Gitlin Other Words from antifa antifa adjective antifa protesters First Known Use of antifa 1946 , in the meaning defined at sense 1 History and Etymology for antifa borrowed from German Antifa, short for antifaschistisch "anti-fascist," in Antifaschistische Aktion (multiparty front initiated by the German Communist Party in 1932 to counter Nazism) and in other collocations https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/23/what-antifa-and-what-does-movement-want/593867001/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/us/what-is-antifa-explainer-trnd/index.html" Words are cool yay | |||
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"Definition of antifa 1 : a person or group actively opposing fascism The groups … prominently featured about 100 Christian ministers in clerical garb, angry Charlottesville residents, peace advocates, Black Lives Matter activists, and self-styled anti-fascists who call themselves "antifas" … — Peter Weber After the war, Antifas varied in size and composition across the former Reich, now divided into four zones of occupation, and developed in interaction with the local occupying power. — Loren Balhorn 2 : an anti-fascist movement Antifa is the backlash to the backlash, a defensive response to the growing presence of right-wing extremism. — Todd Gitlin Other Words from antifa antifa adjective antifa protesters First Known Use of antifa 1946 , in the meaning defined at sense 1 History and Etymology for antifa borrowed from German Antifa, short for antifaschistisch "anti-fascist," in Antifaschistische Aktion (multiparty front initiated by the German Communist Party in 1932 to counter Nazism) and in other collocations https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/23/what-antifa-and-what-does-movement-want/593867001/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/us/what-is-antifa-explainer-trnd/index.html Words are cool yay" You don't even have those. Which FBI quote? Quote one. | |||
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"Definition of antifa 1 : a person or group actively opposing fascism The groups … prominently featured about 100 Christian ministers in clerical garb, angry Charlottesville residents, peace advocates, Black Lives Matter activists, and self-styled anti-fascists who call themselves "antifas" … — Peter Weber After the war, Antifas varied in size and composition across the former Reich, now divided into four zones of occupation, and developed in interaction with the local occupying power. — Loren Balhorn 2 : an anti-fascist movement Antifa is the backlash to the backlash, a defensive response to the growing presence of right-wing extremism. — Todd Gitlin Other Words from antifa antifa adjective antifa protesters First Known Use of antifa 1946 , in the meaning defined at sense 1 History and Etymology for antifa borrowed from German Antifa, short for antifaschistisch "anti-fascist," in Antifaschistische Aktion (multiparty front initiated by the German Communist Party in 1932 to counter Nazism) and in other collocations https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/23/what-antifa-and-what-does-movement-want/593867001/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/us/what-is-antifa-explainer-trnd/index.html Words are cool yay You don't even have those. Which FBI quote? Quote one." Who said FBI I never said FBI, chill out dude getting a bit jumpy and paranoid are we. Look if you like to dress up in black and not shower it’s cool and your choice relax, we can’t think any less of you anyway | |||
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"Definition of antifa 1 : a person or group actively opposing fascism The groups … prominently featured about 100 Christian ministers in clerical garb, angry Charlottesville residents, peace advocates, Black Lives Matter activists, and self-styled anti-fascists who call themselves "antifas" … — Peter Weber After the war, Antifas varied in size and composition across the former Reich, now divided into four zones of occupation, and developed in interaction with the local occupying power. — Loren Balhorn 2 : an anti-fascist movement Antifa is the backlash to the backlash, a defensive response to the growing presence of right-wing extremism. — Todd Gitlin Other Words from antifa antifa adjective antifa protesters First Known Use of antifa 1946 , in the meaning defined at sense 1 History and Etymology for antifa borrowed from German Antifa, short for antifaschistisch "anti-fascist," in Antifaschistische Aktion (multiparty front initiated by the German Communist Party in 1932 to counter Nazism) and in other collocations https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/23/what-antifa-and-what-does-movement-want/593867001/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/us/what-is-antifa-explainer-trnd/index.html Words are cool yay You don't even have those. Which FBI quote? Quote one. Who said FBI I never said FBI, chill out dude getting a bit jumpy and paranoid are we. Look if you like to dress up in black and not shower it’s cool and your choice relax, we can’t think any less of you anyway " My apologies. It was Man on Fire "quoting" the FBI without a quote. You've become interchangeable to me
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?". We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI. So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags. The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party. Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?. Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up. Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics. Tax breaks for the rich. Foreign wars. These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics. So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing. And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned. But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit. What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work. Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence. | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?.
We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI.
So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags.
The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party.
Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?.
Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up.
Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Foreign wars.
These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics.
So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing.
And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned.
But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit.
What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work.
Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence.
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?.
We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI.
So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags.
The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party.
Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?.
Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up.
Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Foreign wars.
These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics.
So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing.
And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned.
But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit.
What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work.
Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence.
"Where is the FBI "quote"? What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours? What acts of terror do they carry out? Who are Antifa? Are they all violent? You have written much an said little. Just fishing into your word soup, what did the thick as wooden plank barmaid do before she was a barmaid? | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?.
We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI.
So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags.
The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party.
Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?.
Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up.
Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Foreign wars.
These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics.
So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing.
And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned.
But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit.
What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work.
Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence.
You asked questions about Antifa and I answered , scroll up unless I missed something, apologies if I have could you mention then again please"My apologies I sent a reply+quote to the wrong message | |||
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"Definition of antifa 1 : a person or group actively opposing fascism The groups … prominently featured about 100 Christian ministers in clerical garb, angry Charlottesville residents, peace advocates, Black Lives Matter activists, and self-styled anti-fascists who call themselves "antifas" … — Peter Weber After the war, Antifas varied in size and composition across the former Reich, now divided into four zones of occupation, and developed in interaction with the local occupying power. — Loren Balhorn 2 : an anti-fascist movement Antifa is the backlash to the backlash, a defensive response to the growing presence of right-wing extremism. — Todd Gitlin Other Words from antifa antifa adjective antifa protesters First Known Use of antifa 1946 , in the meaning defined at sense 1 History and Etymology for antifa borrowed from German Antifa, short for antifaschistisch "anti-fascist," in Antifaschistische Aktion (multiparty front initiated by the German Communist Party in 1932 to counter Nazism) and in other collocations https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/23/what-antifa-and-what-does-movement-want/593867001/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/X56rQkDgd0qqB7R68t6t7C/seven-things-you-need-to-know-about-antifa https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/us/what-is-antifa-explainer-trnd/index.html Words are cool yay You don't even have those. Which FBI quote? Quote one. Who said FBI I never said FBI, chill out dude getting a bit jumpy and paranoid are we. Look if you like to dress up in black and not shower it’s cool and your choice relax, we can’t think any less of you anyway My apologies. It was Man on Fire "quoting" the FBI without a quote. You've become interchangeable to me
You still failed to actually address any of the points directly. You used your version of "humour" to avoid the point.
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?.
We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI.
So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags.
The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party.
Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?.
Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up.
Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Foreign wars.
These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics.
So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing.
And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned.
But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit.
What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work.
Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence.
Where is the FBI "quote"?
What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
Who are Antifa?
Are they all violent?
You have written much an said little.
Just fishing into your word soup, what did the thick as wooden plank barmaid do before she was a barmaid?". I give up with you, when the conversation becomes inconvenient you just list a load of questions most of which have already been answered, your the exact reason we are where we are. So yea your right, who cares, nothings going to change, the world's full of hate and division and all your words of wisdom will cure it. Good luck | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?.
We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI.
So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags.
The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party.
Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?.
Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up.
Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Foreign wars.
These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics.
So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing.
And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned.
But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit.
What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work.
Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence.
Where is the FBI "quote"?
What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
Who are Antifa?
Are they all violent?
You have written much an said little.
Just fishing into your word soup, what did the thick as wooden plank barmaid do before she was a barmaid?.
I give up with you, when the conversation becomes inconvenient you just list a load of questions most of which have already been answered, your the exact reason we are where we are.
So yea your right, who cares, nothings going to change, the world's full of hate and division and all your words of wisdom will cure it.
Good luck"You have a lot of information obtained from who knows what source that you present as "fact". You do not organise the information in a way that actually makes a specific point. You really do not address many questions directly. This could just be a question of style. You might be completely right in what you are saying but there is really no way of knowing. | |||
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"I'm not defending them. Some of them are violent thugs. Some don't seem to be at all. What makes them terrorists? What does Antifa want? What acts of terror do they carry out? So are you saying some are good and some are bad ?? Sounds familiar, that’s right trump said that .
Oh they won't come back to that
What makes them terrorists?
What does Antifa want?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
On an "Antifa" protest are they all committing acts of violence?
Who is "Antifa" and who is not?.
We've been though this but you've chosen to talk bollocks when I told you I was quoting the FBI.
So the FBI think there's internal terrorism going on amongst antifa groups, they say this because there m.o plus the way there organised and ran under scrambled internet social media, past crimes, tactics, uniform, flags.
The very definition of terrorism is violence for political aims, the IRA were the violent wing of the political party sinn Fein,antifa is beginning to look like the violent wing of the democratic party or more to the point the progressive democrats, hence when I told you before about the current civil war inside the democratic party.
Research who runs the justice democrats and watch there videos of how there running progressives candidate against the weak democrats at state level, running progressives at local level pretending to be republicans because only 14% of people bother to vote, how they've told the DNC that if they don't comply with what they want they'll run them into the ground with multiple candidacy hijacking, research who's funding them, track that back to media propaganda via the young Turks (race Bater Central), research how Alexandria Cortez got from bar girl to congresswoman despite being as thick as a wooden plank and ask yourself why there picking a plank for the job?.
Look at her speeches and see how they mimic word for word what the anarchist/communist real players behind the scenes match up.
Personally I still don't think we're polarised by colour in the main despite the creeps behind the scenes on both sides but by hell were polarised by left the right political persuasion and I don't really know why, in the main the the points the left don't like are corporate influence in politics.
Tax breaks for the rich.
Foreign wars.
These are pretty much universal with the right side of politics.
So what are we really arguing about, immigration levels and public spending both of which can be met with sensible discussion, gun control (not here) but America, easily met via sensible give and take (criminal checks, mental health checks and magazine reform will not be opposed by those of the right wing.
And honestly cracking down on violent thugs wearing black will not be opposed by the left leaning politically aligned.
But that's not what we're going to see, no were going to see polarization, my way or violence, trumps a cunt or the greatest thing since sliced bread, hard brexit or no brexit.
What can we agree about, socialism is a tried and failed system and so is unregulated capitalism, nationalism and globalism aren't going to work.
Somewhere in the middle is where we all give and take and move forward without violence.
Where is the FBI "quote"?
What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
Who are Antifa?
Are they all violent?
You have written much an said little.
Just fishing into your word soup, what did the thick as wooden plank barmaid do before she was a barmaid?.
I give up with you, when the conversation becomes inconvenient you just list a load of questions most of which have already been answered, your the exact reason we are where we are.
So yea your right, who cares, nothings going to change, the world's full of hate and division and all your words of wisdom will cure it.
Good luck
You have a lot of information obtained from who knows what source that you present as "fact".
You do not organise the information in a way that actually makes a specific point.
You really do not address many questions directly.
This could just be a question of style.
You might be completely right in what you are saying but there is really no way of knowing.". It was verbatim from the FBI head designated into looking into the antifa movement. I've already told you this three times. But why argue, let's pretend your right and nobody knows anything at all about them | |||
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" It was verbatim from the FBI head designated into looking into the antifa movement. I've already told you this three times. But why argue, let's pretend your right and nobody knows anything at all about them "From ABC by Leandra Bernstein Tuesday, July 23rd 2019 FBI Director Christopher Wray testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, July 23, 2019. "It's about the violence, not about the ideology," Wray responded, reiterating that agents do not conduct investigations based on a group's ideology or rhetoric. He further argued that the new category was meant to address an array of violent threats the FBI is seeing from various groups, including white supremacists, neo-Nazis, anarchists and environmental extremists. Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas raised a different concern about the violent far-left group, Antifa. Individuals associated with the group have been involved in several violent protests around the country, including the alleged assault of a journalist in Portland, Oregon, and an attempted attack on an immigration detention facility in Tacoma, Washington. Cruz pressed the FBI director to assess the organization and said he is formally recommending the Justice Department and FBI open a RICO investigation into Antifa, which would essentially make all members of the group liable to prosecution as an organized crime syndicate. Wray responded that the FBI views Antifa "more as an ideology than an organization." The FBI currently has several investigations into violent criminal activity by individuals who subscribe to "an Antifa-like ideology." | |||
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" It was verbatim from the FBI head designated into looking into the antifa movement. I've already told you this three times. But why argue, let's pretend your right and nobody knows anything at all about them
From ABC
by Leandra Bernstein
Tuesday, July 23rd 2019
FBI Director Christopher Wray testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, July 23, 2019.
"It's about the violence, not about the ideology," Wray responded, reiterating that agents do not conduct investigations based on a group's ideology or rhetoric. He further argued that the new category was meant to address an array of violent threats the FBI is seeing from various groups, including white supremacists, neo-Nazis, anarchists and environmental extremists.
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas raised a different concern about the violent far-left group, Antifa. Individuals associated with the group have been involved in several violent protests around the country, including the alleged assault of a journalist in Portland, Oregon, and an attempted attack on an immigration detention facility in Tacoma, Washington.
Cruz pressed the FBI director to assess the organization and said he is formally recommending the Justice Department and FBI open a RICO investigation into Antifa, which would essentially make all members of the group liable to prosecution as an organized crime syndicate.
Wray responded that the FBI views Antifa "more as an ideology than an organization." The FBI currently has several investigations into violent criminal activity by individuals who subscribe to "an Antifa-like ideology."". Seems pretty damming to me in its ideological violence, the FBI head I watched on C-SPAN was detailing how they've been tracking the "movement" how groups hundreds of miles apart use identical tactics within days off each other suggesting there's shared intelligence between individuals, how arrested and defected individuals have given evidence that there using protected social media (WhatsApp) to share and encourage others into violent and illegal acts, that there's a known hierarchy (well of course there is, the left have been banging on about it for years), hierarchies means there's leaders and followers, you know like, erm an organisation | |||
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" It was verbatim from the FBI head designated into looking into the antifa movement. I've already told you this three times. But why argue, let's pretend your right and nobody knows anything at all about them
From ABC
by Leandra Bernstein
Tuesday, July 23rd 2019
FBI Director Christopher Wray testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, July 23, 2019.
"It's about the violence, not about the ideology," Wray responded, reiterating that agents do not conduct investigations based on a group's ideology or rhetoric. He further argued that the new category was meant to address an array of violent threats the FBI is seeing from various groups, including white supremacists, neo-Nazis, anarchists and environmental extremists.
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas raised a different concern about the violent far-left group, Antifa. Individuals associated with the group have been involved in several violent protests around the country, including the alleged assault of a journalist in Portland, Oregon, and an attempted attack on an immigration detention facility in Tacoma, Washington.
Cruz pressed the FBI director to assess the organization and said he is formally recommending the Justice Department and FBI open a RICO investigation into Antifa, which would essentially make all members of the group liable to prosecution as an organized crime syndicate.
Wray responded that the FBI views Antifa "more as an ideology than an organization." The FBI currently has several investigations into violent criminal activity by individuals who subscribe to "an Antifa-like ideology.".
Seems pretty damming to me in its ideological violence, the FBI head I watched on C-SPAN was detailing how they've been tracking the "movement" how groups hundreds of miles apart use identical tactics within days off each other suggesting there's shared intelligence between individuals, how arrested and defected individuals have given evidence that there using protected social media (WhatsApp) to share and encourage others into violent and illegal acts, that there's a known hierarchy (well of course there is, the left have been banging on about it for years), hierarchies means there's leaders and followers, you know like, erm an organisation
"Let's try one last time. The questions have not changed. I have added to one for clarity. Where is the FBI "quote"? Please provide the source. What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours? What acts of terror do they carry out? Who are Antifa? Are they all violent? | |||
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"Of course their an organisation, you don't mobilise a group of thugs without having some form of organisation. The FBI need to get their fingers out their arses and start doing what they are meant to do. Antifa terrorise people and communities, they like to be in control, cause mayhem, hurt, maim people who they perceive as 'faschist' many of whom are innocent bystanders and just exercising their free speech. Pretty good pointers to designate them domestic terrorists. The law needs to start coming down heavy on these arse wipes before the situation escalates further. " What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours? What acts of terror do they carry out? Is rioting and fighting "terror"? Are the Gillets Jaynes terrorists? Were the miners terrorists? Were the Poll tax rioters terrorists? What do they do when there is no right wing group present? Who are Antifa? Are they all violent? I don't agree with their methods, but you severely degrade the meaning of terrorism of you apply it to these people. | |||
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" It was verbatim from the FBI head designated into looking into the antifa movement. I've already told you this three times. But why argue, let's pretend your right and nobody knows anything at all about them
From ABC
by Leandra Bernstein
Tuesday, July 23rd 2019
FBI Director Christopher Wray testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, July 23, 2019.
"It's about the violence, not about the ideology," Wray responded, reiterating that agents do not conduct investigations based on a group's ideology or rhetoric. He further argued that the new category was meant to address an array of violent threats the FBI is seeing from various groups, including white supremacists, neo-Nazis, anarchists and environmental extremists.
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas raised a different concern about the violent far-left group, Antifa. Individuals associated with the group have been involved in several violent protests around the country, including the alleged assault of a journalist in Portland, Oregon, and an attempted attack on an immigration detention facility in Tacoma, Washington.
Cruz pressed the FBI director to assess the organization and said he is formally recommending the Justice Department and FBI open a RICO investigation into Antifa, which would essentially make all members of the group liable to prosecution as an organized crime syndicate.
Wray responded that the FBI views Antifa "more as an ideology than an organization." The FBI currently has several investigations into violent criminal activity by individuals who subscribe to "an Antifa-like ideology.".
Seems pretty damming to me in its ideological violence, the FBI head I watched on C-SPAN was detailing how they've been tracking the "movement" how groups hundreds of miles apart use identical tactics within days off each other suggesting there's shared intelligence between individuals, how arrested and defected individuals have given evidence that there using protected social media (WhatsApp) to share and encourage others into violent and illegal acts, that there's a known hierarchy (well of course there is, the left have been banging on about it for years), hierarchies means there's leaders and followers, you know like, erm an organisation
Let's try one last time.
The questions have not changed. I have added to one for clarity.
Where is the FBI "quote"? Please provide the source.
What does Antifa want? I gave you a definition. What's yours?
What acts of terror do they carry out?
Who are Antifa?
Are they all violent?"This is hilarious, only person who avoids questions the most on this politics forum is you. It’s almost cringeworthy seeing you do this as it’s laughable as when you get into something you can’t handle you disappear We get it you hate trump and you like to dress in black | |||
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"Fascists have always outlawed those that oppose them, in fact it is one of the traits that define Fascism.Same as communism You actually mean Stalinism/Leninism/Authoritarianism. What you think of as communist states are not communist. There has never been a communist state. Just authoritarian with the projection of a collective and oppression of it’s citizens. " I was born in Belarus are you going to tell me that wasn’t a communist country haha | |||
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"I was born in Belarus are you going to tell me that wasn’t a communist country haha " Yep... Depending on how long ago you were born it was and has been many things ranging from being a satellite of an imperialist empire and part of a totalitarian dictatorship to a proto democracy. But one thing it always had is capitalist economic model (unless you know of a time when there was no property in Belarus). Fact is what most of us think of as communism is in fact a command economy. | |||
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"I was born in Belarus are you going to tell me that wasn’t a communist country haha Yep... Depending on how long ago you were born it was and has been many things ranging from being a satellite of an imperialist empire and part of a totalitarian dictatorship to a proto democracy. But one thing it always had is capitalist economic model (unless you know of a time when there was no property in Belarus). Fact is what most of us think of as communism is in fact a command economy." Belarus was communist ever since the Soviet Union when I was a kid my parents couldn’t feed the family and we had to flee are home country to the UK communism and socialism is terrible | |||
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"Belarus was communist ever since the Soviet Union when I was a kid my parents couldn’t feed the family and we had to flee are home country to the UK communism and socialism is terrible " Ah, silly me, clearly there was no money or property in your Soviet Union then. Please stop conflating communism with totalitarianism. Just because a label is attached to something does not make the label correct. | |||
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"Belarus was communist ever since the Soviet Union when I was a kid my parents couldn’t feed the family and we had to flee are home country to the UK communism and socialism is terrible Ah, silly me, clearly there was no money or property in your Soviet Union then. Please stop conflating communism with totalitarianism. Just because a label is attached to something does not make the label correct." obviously you probably know more than me on the matter but I’m just saying | |||
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"Terrorism is using violence against people for political reasons. They, like the nazis are left wing, they are socialists, and they attack people who do not comply with their view. They meet all the criteria to be a terrorist group. You might find people doing hitler saulte offensive, however that is not violence, and unless they beat up someone from a different race, for a politcal, and not racist reason, then they are not terrorists. Hitler would have sided with antifa in their hatred of trump. For all the same reasons." LoL! Nope, nope and nope... Terrorism is not political at all. Terrorism is the use of violence with the intention of having an effect outside its immediate use. just because it is used to advance political agendas does not make it political in itself. The Nazi's were ultra nationalist, right wing fascists, there was nothing left will or socialist about them other than a word in their name. Trump has in many ways modelled himself on Hitler, Hitler would have despised Trump's cowardice but would have seen Trump as a fellow spirit and ally. | |||
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"Terrorism is using violence against people for political reasons. They, like the nazis are left wing, they are socialists, and they attack people who do not comply with their view. They meet all the criteria to be a terrorist group. You might find people doing hitler saulte offensive, however that is not violence, and unless they beat up someone from a different race, for a politcal, and not racist reason, then they are not terrorists. Hitler would have sided with antifa in their hatred of trump. For all the same reasons." Wait, what? The nazis were about as far from socialist as you can get, apart from the name. Lol, you have to be trolling again.
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"Wait, what? The nazis were about as far from socialist as you can get, apart from the name. Lol, you have to be trolling again.
Well played. "This is a copy and past from the Oxford English dictionary, with link: https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/fascism NOUN mass noun 1An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. More example sentencesSynonyms 1.1(in general use) extreme authoritarian, oppressive, or intolerant views or practices. ‘this is yet another example of health fascism in action’ More example sentences The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43); the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach Origin 1920s from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis (see fasces). Pronunciation fascism/'fa??z  m/
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Painful when you're troll uses the Oxford English Dictionary to burn you. Want to try again? 
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"Terrorism is using violence against people for political reasons. They, like the nazis are left wing, they are socialists, and they attack people who do not comply with their view. They meet all the criteria to be a terrorist group. You might find people doing hitler saulte offensive, however that is not violence, and unless they beat up someone from a different race, for a politcal, and not racist reason, then they are not terrorists. Hitler would have sided with antifa in their hatred of trump. For all the same reasons. Wait, what? The nazis were about as far from socialist as you can get, apart from the name. Lol, you have to be trolling again.
Well played. "the nazis where national socialists you tool haha | |||
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