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"Last as what? Pm or scumbag tory leader? I'll reckon he'll be like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.... Gone before Xmas after some crap deals and some crap performances "Yes, last as a pm and maibe a tory leader too lol | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age " | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age "Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?  | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age "Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread. Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election. They will be squealing like stuck pigs. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. "I hope he does, although he is more likely to be gone before Xmas | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party? "He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
"Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ? "So who is your prime minister then? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ? "That’s the way the system works, if labour were in it would be the Labour Party members who would vote their pm and in. Or are we into double standards ? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
That’s the way the system works, if labour were in it would be the Labour Party members who would vote their pm and in.
Or are we into double standards ? "Not at all, Gordon Brown never won a general election so I don’t think he can be classed as a PM either just a caretaker | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?"Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM  | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM "They are all caretakers Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
"Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well "Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
"Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy? "I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there."Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?"So there is consistency in the system then | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election? "He doesn't have too. Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job that's the way it goes | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
"Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU? "what has the belief in democracy got to do with the point you are trying to make. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age "90 days....
i reckon there will be a general election if he keeps pushing the "hard no deal" button on october 24th....... | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
what has the belief in democracy got to do with the point you are trying to make.
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
90 days....
i reckon there will be a general election if he keeps pushing the "hard no deal" button on october 24th......."No..no..no... we can't have politics overshadowing the RWC | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
90 days....
i reckon there will be a general election if he keeps pushing the "hard no deal" button on october 24th.......
No..no..no... we can't have politics overshadowing the RWC "I will agree with you on that . | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
90 days....
i reckon there will be a general election if he keeps pushing the "hard no deal" button on october 24th.......
No..no..no... we can't have politics overshadowing the RWC "just checked... that date is between the quarter final weekend and the semi final weekend... and since ireland will be the only northern hemisphere team involved, you will be fine!  | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
90 days....
i reckon there will be a general election if he keeps pushing the "hard no deal" button on october 24th.......
No..no..no... we can't have politics overshadowing the RWC "Have to agree with you there. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
90 days....
i reckon there will be a general election if he keeps pushing the "hard no deal" button on october 24th.......
No..no..no... we can't have politics overshadowing the RWC
just checked... that date is between the quarter final weekend and the semi final weekend... and since ireland will be the only northern hemisphere team involved, you will be fine! "hahahahaha lol
lets wait and see | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU? "I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T. I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age "A perfect summary of the situation. We have entered the golden era to which you refer. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age A perfect summary of the situation. We have entered the golden era to which you refer. " | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. "I never listen to those who shout loudest on these threads . Boris ie a true success story who will not let us down. He will both get us out of the EU and win the next election. Life will good.    | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter."I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. I never listen to those who shout loudest on these threads . Boris ie a true success story who will not let us down. He will both get us out of the EU and win the next election. Life will good.
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well "When you vote, do you vote for your local MP choice....or does it say somewhere on you ballot slip about a choice for PM too? By becoming leader of the Conservative Party, he, by default as they are the party of government currently, becomes PM. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ? "I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never. What we voted to join in 1975 was nothing like what we voted to leave in 2016. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ?
I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never.
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
When you vote, do you vote for your local MP choice....or does it say somewhere on you ballot slip about a choice for PM too?
By becoming leader of the Conservative Party, he, by default as they are the party of government currently, becomes PM."I am being pedantic. It does make me laugh though when leave voters talk about democracy and the ‘will of the people ‘ then applaud when Boris becomes PM with a general election | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
When you vote, do you vote for your local MP choice....or does it say somewhere on you ballot slip about a choice for PM too?
By becoming leader of the Conservative Party, he, by default as they are the party of government currently, becomes PM.
I am being pedantic. It does make me laugh though when leave voters talk about democracy and the ‘will of the people ‘ then applaud when Boris becomes PM with a general election "I ment without | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ?
I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never.
What we voted to join in 1975 was nothing like what we voted to leave in 2016.
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ?
I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never.
What we voted to join in 1975 was nothing like what we voted to leave in 2016.
You live in Germany and Spain "And? Does that make me less British? Does it mean that I'm not allowed an opinion? What the fuck has that got to do with anything other than you trying to take a cheap shot? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy? "There's no such thing as a "caretaker PM", their either PM or not and if they are PM then their "your" PM irrespective on how they attained the position | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. I never listen to those who shout loudest on these threads . Boris ie a true success story who will not let us down. He will both get us out of the EU and win the next election. Life will good.
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. I never listen to those who shout loudest on these threads . Boris ie a true success story who will not let us down. He will both get us out of the EU and win the next election. Life will good.
How can he be a true success story if his life is based on a lie. Your words do not make sense. "Good to see you back anything constructive to add to the thread? | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ?
I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never.
What we voted to join in 1975 was nothing like what we voted to leave in 2016.
You live in Germany and Spain
And? Does that make me less British? Does it mean that I'm not allowed an opinion?
What the fuck has that got to do with anything other than you trying to take a cheap shot?"Wow. That hit a nerve, are you happy with your reaction ? I am trying to understand why people who live in the EU voted leave ? | |||
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"If you think that the general public have the right to vote in the pm and not just the party members who are in power at the time then you would have to get rid of all the party’s and have every mp as an independent. Because how can you expect the public to vote on a party that they do not support? It would be a mess" A bit like the referendum then | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. I never listen to those who shout loudest on these threads . Boris ie a true success story who will not let us down. He will both get us out of the EU and win the next election. Life will good.
How can he be a true success story if his life is based on a lie. Your words do not make sense. Good to see you back anything constructive to add to the thread?"Sorry but you are becoming boring | |||
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"If you think that the general public have the right to vote in the pm and not just the party members who are in power at the time then you would have to get rid of all the party’s and have every mp as an independent. Because how can you expect the public to vote on a party that they do not support? It would be a mess A bit like the referendum then "that was nice and easy ... in or out majority wins | |||
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"If you think that the general public have the right to vote in the pm and not just the party members who are in power at the time then you would have to get rid of all the party’s and have every mp as an independent. Because how can you expect the public to vote on a party that they do not support? It would be a mess A bit like the referendum then
that was nice and easy ... in or out
majority wins"Yeah, how is that panning out? Have we left yet | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ?
I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never.
What we voted to join in 1975 was nothing like what we voted to leave in 2016.
You live in Germany and Spain
And? Does that make me less British? Does it mean that I'm not allowed an opinion?
What the fuck has that got to do with anything other than you trying to take a cheap shot?
Wow. That hit a nerve, are you happy with your reaction ? I am trying to understand why people who live in the EU voted leave ? "Not hit a nerve at all. It just shows you up, like many others, as someone who always makes it personal when you have lost the argument. I could live in fucking Antarctica and still be allowed my opinion. But hey, what's free speech to a fucking leftie? Shout down the opposition with slurs and lies until they get pissed off. Are you a member of that bunch of fuckwits called Momentum by any chance? Anyway, simple answer to a very simple question. If I had a vote in Germany or Spain and they had a referendum I would still vote leave, as would the Mrs and more Germans than you would like to think. This EU with its constant push towards a full federal Europe has to be destroyed. Then maybe, just maybe, we could get back to the original concept of the EEC (Common Market to you) BTW JC actually agrees with me, he just hasn't got the bollocks to say it. | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Thanks for that. I was wondering if this was the Liebour party's private thread.
Oh how they will be pissed off if he actually does get the Brexit deal right and then wins an election.
They will be squealing like stuck pigs. I never listen to those who shout loudest on these threads . Boris ie a true success story who will not let us down. He will both get us out of the EU and win the next election. Life will good.
How can he be a true success story if his life is based on a lie. Your words do not make sense. "I thought that the life of Boris was based on numerous achievements and success. He was an outstanding mayor of London. If he was a liar he would not be a success . He has the backing of the electorate and that is what matters . | |||
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" This EU with its constant push towards a full federal Europe has to be destroyed. Then maybe, just maybe, we could get back to the original concept of the EEC (Common Market to you) BTW JC actually agrees with me, he just hasn't got the bollocks to say it. What do you think the original concept of the EEC was? " Oh I know exactly what it was. Trouble is (was) that it was not only kept secret in 1975, the public was actually lied to. Remember "No threat to sovereignty" and all that? Had the British people been told that it was the first step to joining a United States of Europe there would never have been a need for Brexit. We wouldn't have joined in the first place. The EEC (Common Market) was nothing more than a Trojan horse. | |||
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"Do you see the contradiction in your post about sovereignty? The UK just voted to take back something it never lost, in order to give up everything it has. " Understanding EU treaties (Lisbon for example) obviously isn't your strong point. What do you think "ever closer union" actually means? | |||
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"The Boris strategy seems to be very, very obvious to me. He is playing a hardball game with the EU whilst domestically promising uncosted, but vote winning policies on a day to day basis - increasing Police numbers, more money spent on the military, hospital upgrades, social care improvement, money no object spending on “no deal” preparation, improved public transport in the north etc etc. The idea is to sell himself to the public over the next month or so as the people’s PM. The cost of his never ending policy promises are irrelevant because as we know, these days the truth is irrelevant. He will say and promise whatever is necessary to cement his position amongst the millions of gullible people who vote on soundbytes rather than facts. Roll on October and the evil E.U. continue to refuse to remove the Irish backstop and Boris sells it as an affront against the heroic and patriotic citizens of this country. Whether or not Parliament allows a “no deal” Brexit to pass - Boris will have placed himself as the people’s Prime Minister and ready to take back Brexit voters and convincingly win an Autumn election. Strategically very clever, but whether it is in the National interest to allow uncosted promises to be used to build political stock is questionable. Hopefully, the Press will hold him and his promises to account but who knows whether even that will make any difference in the post truth world." With only a few small changes (hardball with the EU for example) That could be JC's resume as well. | |||
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"Do you see the contradiction in your post about sovereignty? The UK just voted to take back something it never lost, in order to give up everything it has. Understanding EU treaties (Lisbon for example) obviously isn't your strong point. What do you think "ever closer union" actually means?" The United Kingdom has a permanent opt out from that concept. There was never any possibility of the U.K. being taken down that route and the U.K. had a veto over its own involvement in any so called E.U. Army. Surprised you don’t know that - or perhaps you do, but playing ignorant suits the argument? | |||
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"Do you see the contradiction in your post about sovereignty? The UK just voted to take back something it never lost, in order to give up everything it has. Understanding EU treaties (Lisbon for example) obviously isn't your strong point. What do you think "ever closer union" actually means?" The Treaty you are referring to is the 1957 Treaty of Rome, which is the foundation treaty for what we call the EU today. This is the treaty that states the signatories are “determined to lay the foundations of an ever-closer union among the peoples of Europe”. This is the Treaty upon which the UK ascended to membership in 1975 and upon which two-thirds of the population said they agreed with. So the idea that ever-closer union is something imposed on the UK after 1975 is bogus. Since that referendum, there has been 10 General Elections in the UK. At each election, the parties set out their policies on Europe. At every turn of the wheel since 1975, the UK Government has voted in favour of reform, or secured an opt-out from it. One question: Did the UK need the permission of the EU to hold a referendum in 2016? The answer to that is the answer to your question about sovereignty. | |||
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"The Boris strategy seems to be very, very obvious to me. He is playing a hardball game with the EU whilst domestically promising uncosted, but vote winning policies on a day to day basis - increasing Police numbers, more money spent on the military, hospital upgrades, social care improvement, money no object spending on “no deal” preparation, improved public transport in the north etc etc. The idea is to sell himself to the public over the next month or so as the people’s PM. The cost of his never ending policy promises are irrelevant because as we know, these days the truth is irrelevant. He will say and promise whatever is necessary to cement his position amongst the millions of gullible people who vote on soundbytes rather than facts. Roll on October and the evil E.U. continue to refuse to remove the Irish backstop and Boris sells it as an affront against the heroic and patriotic citizens of this country. Whether or not Parliament allows a “no deal” Brexit to pass - Boris will have placed himself as the people’s Prime Minister and ready to take back Brexit voters and convincingly win an Autumn election. Strategically very clever, but whether it is in the National interest to allow uncosted promises to be used to build political stock is questionable. Hopefully, the Press will hold him and his promises to account but who knows whether even that will make any difference in the post truth world. With only a few small changes (hardball with the EU for example) That could be JC's resume as well." Other than Johnson is clearly targeting the gullible Brexit voters who Corbyn has no chance with. You may think it insulting to label Brexit voters gullible - but that is what they are and Johnson is targeting that specific demographic by hard balling the EU and making populist statements about spending money on the Police and the military. Watch the Farage and Brexit Party pushback start imminently. Farage will know exactly what Johnson is doing because Farage wrote the book on populist promises, | |||
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"Our glorious Prime Minister will have an energised, positive and productive time in office A glorious new golden age
Our?? Are you member of the Conservative party?
He is our Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury of the United Kingdom
Our?? I don’t remember him being voted PM in a general election? When you say ‘our’ do you mean the 160,000 Tory members ?
So who is your prime minister then?
Boris Johnson is the caretaker PM
They are all caretakers
Their tenure can be short and sweet or in the case of Mr Boris Johnson will be long and glorious
Do you believe in democracy? Is it democratic to only allow 160000 Tory members to choose ‘our ‘ prime minister? Maybe the same Tory members should have exclusively had the vote on Brexit as well
Oh please not this again...
Before you start do you want to have a look at how Gordon Brown was given the job of Prime Minister (caretaker or otherwise)...
Yeah, if you read my earlier post I have stated that he wasn’t a real PM just a caretaker? You do believe in democracy?
I didn't vote for Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister... but he still got there.
Exactly, neither did I , you're proving my point , so, do you believe in democracy?
So there is consistency in the system then
Do you believe in democracy? Should Boris call
an immediate general election?
He doesn't have too.
Conservatives won the last general election, the next GE isn't due until 2022. Leader of the political party that wins (or can form a government) gets the job
that's the way it goes
Ah, so you don’t believe in democracy? You believe that 160,000 Tory member have the right to choose ‘our’ next PM? Are you happy with that?? If that’s the case shouldn’t we scrap Brexit and just let these Tory members decide if we leave the EU?
I think we all know about Gordon Brown but remember sunny Jim Callaghan? Served as PM for over 3 years (part of that propped up by the old Liberal party) without winning a general election. When he did (had to) go to the country he got well and truly stuffed by Mrs T.
I won't take any lectures about democracy from any Labour member or supporter.
I agree, Callaghan shouldn’t have been allowed to stay for 3 years. I am assuming you voted leave ?
I supported leave and regard myself as a reluctant Brexiter. I would much prefer to stay in a "Common Market" type arrangement. But a full blooded United States of Europe? Never.
What we voted to join in 1975 was nothing like what we voted to leave in 2016."What the country joined evolved democratically. Every step could have been vetoed by us as a nation at any point. The UK is completely different now to how it was in 1975. It has evolved democratically. | |||
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"Place your bets. I say he will leave shortly after 31st october, cos he will then realise it wasnt as easy as he thought and he then will call for an election, one said something fun, that he lives in a parallel universe and soon he will be beamed up to space lol "There will be a general election to avoid a vote of no confidence before the exit date. That's why he is in campaign mode already. He'll do a Trump and promise big and deliver small. His economic timing is off though. The market won't carry him through. | |||
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"Place your bets. I say he will leave shortly after 31st october, cos he will then realise it wasnt as easy as he thought and he then will call for an election, one said something fun, that he lives in a parallel universe and soon he will be beamed up to space lol
There will be a general election to avoid a vote of no confidence before the exit date.
That's why he is in campaign mode already.
He'll do a Trump and promise big and deliver small. His economic timing is off though. The market won't carry him through."Promise big deliver small lol | |||
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" Trouble is (was) that it was not only kept secret in 1975, the public was actually lied to. Remember "No threat to sovereignty" and all that? Had the British people been told that it was the first step to joining a United States of Europe there would never have been a need for Brexit. We wouldn't have joined in the first place. The EEC (Common Market) was nothing more than a Trojan horse. " Do you have a source for that claim? | |||
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"Place your bets. I say he will leave shortly after 31st october, cos he will then realise it wasnt as easy as he thought and he then will call for an election, one said something fun, that he lives in a parallel universe and soon he will be beamed up to space lol
There will be a general election to avoid a vote of no confidence before the exit date.
That's why he is in campaign mode already.
He'll do a Trump and promise big and deliver small. His economic timing is off though. The market won't carry him through."There will be no GE before a vote of no confidence. If there is a vote of no confidence we will be out of the eu and boris will have fulfilled his promise to leave.There is not enough time to do anything about it,if a no confidence vote is won the pm can then shut down parliament while a GE is fought that would be 6 weeks and by default we would be out while the election is going on. The remainers would have shot themselves in the foot and taken the uk out | |||
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"Place your bets. I say he will leave shortly after 31st october, cos he will then realise it wasnt as easy as he thought and he then will call for an election, one said something fun, that he lives in a parallel universe and soon he will be beamed up to space lol
There will be a general election to avoid a vote of no confidence before the exit date.
That's why he is in campaign mode already.
He'll do a Trump and promise big and deliver small. His economic timing is off though. The market won't carry him through. There will be no GE before a vote of no confidence. If there is a vote of no confidence we will be out of the eu and boris will have fulfilled his promise to leave.There is not enough time to do anything about it,if a no confidence vote is won the pm can then shut down parliament while a GE is fought that would be 6 weeks and by default we would be out while the election is going on. The remainers would have shot themselves in the foot and taken the uk out "
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"Place your bets. I say he will leave shortly after 31st october, cos he will then realise it wasnt as easy as he thought and he then will call for an election, one said something fun, that he lives in a parallel universe and soon he will be beamed up to space lol
There will be a general election to avoid a vote of no confidence before the exit date.
That's why he is in campaign mode already.
He'll do a Trump and promise big and deliver small. His economic timing is off though. The market won't carry him through. There will be no GE before a vote of no confidence. If there is a vote of no confidence we will be out of the eu and boris will have fulfilled his promise to leave.There is not enough time to do anything about it,if a no confidence vote is won the pm can then shut down parliament while a GE is fought that would be 6 weeks and by default we would be out while the election is going on. The remainers would have shot themselves in the foot and taken the uk out "Your logic is flawed. | |||
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"Its the boris bounce polls today have the tories up between 3 and 10%." Yes, I heard that. I also heard one that said Anyone-but-Corbyn and Labour would be 10 points ahead. | |||
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"Its the boris bounce polls today have the tories up between 3 and 10%. Yes, I heard that. I also heard one that said Anyone-but-Corbyn and Labour would be 10 points ahead." Teresa May was polling very well when she took over... And yes, it seems very clear that Labour could be doing so much better. Time to hand it over to Keir Starmer, Jeremy. | |||
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"Its the boris bounce polls today have the tories up between 3 and 10%. Yes, I heard that. I also heard one that said Anyone-but-Corbyn and Labour would be 10 points ahead." Apparently way down though on the bounce when May took office. | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too" The less we'll off and educated amongst us have a voice too | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too" And your point is? | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " This state of 'social affairs' is, unfortunately, one of Great Britain's newest and trendiest bents. The realms of pure fantasy, I believe. Becoming more tedious now than ever, soon, it will escalate into a national crisis. I also am very aware that "Fabswingers Political Forum" is, in REALITY, a discussion (sic) facility of much lesser prestige than is the "Speaker's Corner" creaky old soapbox area in (I think..) Hyde Park, London. " | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too And your point is?" I think it was made | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too And your point is? I think it was made" Do be warned, good sir, you risk incurring the 'wrath' of the magnanimous "William McGonagall of Fabswinger's Political Forum"....(?!) | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too And your point is? I think it was made" Did Elton teach you too? | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too And your point is? I think it was made Did Elton teach you too?" Lol spell checks a bitch lol | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too" Given you spell words wrong in your posts all the time, I'm not sure you want to be laughing at the education of others. Really, that tweet shows the entitled, snobbish nature of Tories in a nutshell. "Imagine being from Barnsley, how hilarious! Imagine being a single mother! Imagine being overweight! Ugh!" | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too Given you spell words wrong in your posts all the time, I'm not sure you want to be laughing at the education of others. Really, that tweet shows the entitled, snobbish nature of Tories in a nutshell. "Imagine being from Barnsley, how hilarious! Imagine being a single mother! Imagine being overweight! Ugh!" " Yeah the spell check got me on Eton to be fair but the rest was from a status I had seen. No it shows how the majority of the left purely goes on word of mouth or fb, And concerning the Barnsley, single mother and overweight bit well if you can’t see the humour in the post that says more about you and the left really | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too Given you spell words wrong in your posts all the time, I'm not sure you want to be laughing at the education of others. Really, that tweet shows the entitled, snobbish nature of Tories in a nutshell. "Imagine being from Barnsley, how hilarious! Imagine being a single mother! Imagine being overweight! Ugh!" Yeah the spell check got me on Eton to be fair but the rest was from a status I had seen. No it shows how the majority of the left purely goes on word of mouth or fb, And concerning the Barnsley, single mother and overweight bit well if you can’t see the humour in the post that says more about you and the left really " I wasn't just speaking about that post, generally you don't seem to know your grammar very well for someone who obviously thinks a lot of his intellect. Yep, I'll quite happily say that not thinking someone being northern and fat is inherently hilarious says something about me. And in reality, I haven't seen many people say that Boris is stupid. I've seen a lot of people say that he is only out for himself and no care for anything else. Even his own partner said that. | |||
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"The thing is we kind of have to forget the last 3 years and what we have been told. Boris has pressed the reset button. Now if we had a leaver prime minister from the start we would of been out by that. I will save judgement for now and will see if he can deliver x" I'm pressing the reset button on my long term view of Boris so now I'm not looking back on his previous gaffs and will only form my opinions from his tenure of No 10. Comared to the last lot of PM's we've had I actually like Boris's approach and demeanor so far. He has talked a lot already so let's see if he delivers | |||
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"Best status seen today .... Boris Johnson, who was educated at Oxford and Elton, where he excelled at English and classics, is now our prime minister, but on FB. Stacey, on overweight single mum from Barnsley is of the opinion that " boris jonsen is an idiot. Can't beleev he is are prime minster " Sounds like fab too Given you spell words wrong in your posts all the time, I'm not sure you want to be laughing at the education of others. Really, that tweet shows the entitled, snobbish nature of Tories in a nutshell. "Imagine being from Barnsley, how hilarious! Imagine being a single mother! Imagine being overweight! Ugh!" Yeah the spell check got me on Eton to be fair but the rest was from a status I had seen. No it shows how the majority of the left purely goes on word of mouth or fb, And concerning the Barnsley, single mother and overweight bit well if you can’t see the humour in the post that says more about you and the left really I wasn't just speaking about that post, generally you don't seem to know your grammar very well for someone who obviously thinks a lot of his intellect. Yep, I'll quite happily say that not thinking someone being northern and fat is inherently hilarious says something about me. And in reality, I haven't seen many people say that Boris is stupid. I've seen a lot of people say that he is only out for himself and no care for anything else. Even his own partner said that. " Well I’ve never stated what I thought of my own intellect but ok But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway | |||
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" But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway " The idea that 'Boris is smart, this imaginary fat Northern woman is stupid' goes over my head in its amazing complexity is quite funny. I was criticising what the language used shows about the biases and arrogance of the right. Do try and keep up. | |||
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"I believe we will see Boris do exactly as he said he would, and he will lead us out of the EU by the 31st October. He may well call for a general election in the spring, by which time he will be way ahead of Corbyn, and since we will be out already, the liberals and the Brexit party will be irrelevant. So after a convincing win next May we will have another five years to ensure the bright future he promises us. I for one can’t wait, and the Labour voters out there will be glad to see Corbyn, McDonnell and Watson, and Abbott quit after their abysmal loss next spring. If however that useless bunch of halfwits should quit before the next election, it could be a very different story. But while they are there it’s plain sailing ahead for Boris ". I think yours is the nearest correct prediction.. we might see David Miliband back.. who should have been the labour leader in the first place. not mr.ed | |||
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"I believe we will see Boris do exactly as he said he would, and he will lead us out of the EU by the 31st October. He may well call for a general election in the spring, by which time he will be way ahead of Corbyn, and since we will be out already, the liberals and the Brexit party will be irrelevant. So after a convincing win next May we will have another five years to ensure the bright future he promises us. I for one can’t wait, and the Labour voters out there will be glad to see Corbyn, McDonnell and Watson, and Abbott quit after their abysmal loss next spring. If however that useless bunch of halfwits should quit before the next election, it could be a very different story. But while they are there it’s plain sailing ahead for Boris "Agree 100% | |||
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"I believe we will see Boris do exactly as he said he would, and he will lead us out of the EU by the 31st October. He may well call for a general election in the spring, by which time he will be way ahead of Corbyn, and since we will be out already, the liberals and the Brexit party will be irrelevant. So after a convincing win next May we will have another five years to ensure the bright future he promises us. I for one can’t wait, and the Labour voters out there will be glad to see Corbyn, McDonnell and Watson, and Abbott quit after their abysmal loss next spring. If however that useless bunch of halfwits should quit before the next election, it could be a very different story. But while they are there it’s plain sailing ahead for Boris "O :that is so funny | |||
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"Kinda amusing the idea we should be accepting Boris because of his smarts... Yet we've been told to ignore experts for a few years now. Suddenly a degree in old books and dead languages is seen as a good thing for making decions about the economy etc. " History exists for us to learn from it. And recent history proves that if you are in power and don’t deliver a mandate demanded for by a democratic vote by the people, you won’t last long. | |||
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"Kinda amusing the idea we should be accepting Boris because of his smarts... Yet we've been told to ignore experts for a few years now. Suddenly a degree in old books and dead languages is seen as a good thing for making decions about the economy etc. History exists for us to learn from it. And recent history proves that if you are in power and don’t deliver a mandate demanded for by a democratic vote by the people, you won’t last long." We shoulda found a historian then.
Tbf Cameron delivered on his mandate. He gave the people a vote. And didn't last much longer after that. At the last election the tories promised a negotiated deal. May delivered. And didn't last long after that.
But either which way doesn't change my point the agenda seems to have moved from dismissing the educated and creating a class(ish) division that people are calling the voters stupid, to now saying leave it to Boris and ignore those who call him blundering and error strewn. He went to Oxford don't you know? Respect his smarts. | |||
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"Suddenly a degree in old books and dead languages is seen as a good thing for making decions about the economy etc He went to Oxford don't you know? Respect his smarts." He's so smart he said this: "Our Union is the most successful political and economic union in history." That would be the USA, Boris. Fair enough, it's about as united as the UK is, right now; but it's economically more successful. Politically? Who knows? It's certainly possible the USA - and even the EU - will outlast the UK. If that happens, Boris, you will have to bear your part of the responsibility for it. | |||
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" But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway The idea that 'Boris is smart, this imaginary fat Northern woman is stupid' goes over my head in its amazing complexity is quite funny. I was criticising what the language used shows about the biases and arrogance of the right. Do try and keep up. " Lol aww bless, hope your not to triggered | |||
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" But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway The idea that 'Boris is smart, this imaginary fat Northern woman is stupid' goes over my head in its amazing complexity is quite funny. I was criticising what the language used shows about the biases and arrogance of the right. Do try and keep up. Lol aww bless, hope your not to triggered " Oo, good one, 'triggered'. How original. It's 'you're', and 'too', by the way, whilst you're chuckling at people who can't spell. | |||
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" But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway The idea that 'Boris is smart, this imaginary fat Northern woman is stupid' goes over my head in its amazing complexity is quite funny. I was criticising what the language used shows about the biases and arrogance of the right. Do try and keep up. Lol aww bless, hope your not to triggered Oo, good one, 'triggered'. How original. It's 'you're', and 'too', by the way, whilst you're chuckling at people who can't spell. " O seems like a nerve has been hit here lol | |||
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" But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway The idea that 'Boris is smart, this imaginary fat Northern woman is stupid' goes over my head in its amazing complexity is quite funny. I was criticising what the language used shows about the biases and arrogance of the right. Do try and keep up. Lol aww bless, hope your not to triggered Oo, good one, 'triggered'. How original. It's 'you're', and 'too', by the way, whilst you're chuckling at people who can't spell. O seems like a nerve has been hit here lol" No, I'm all good thanks. Just slightly amused at your debating 'skills'. I think I'll leave it at that. | |||
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" But it does seem the point of the comment has gone completely over your head. If it makes you feel better pretend I said a skinny alcoholic man from Maidstone. But I got a feeling it’s lost on you anyway The idea that 'Boris is smart, this imaginary fat Northern woman is stupid' goes over my head in its amazing complexity is quite funny. I was criticising what the language used shows about the biases and arrogance of the right. Do try and keep up. Lol aww bless, hope your not to triggered Oo, good one, 'triggered'. How original. It's 'you're', and 'too', by the way, whilst you're chuckling at people who can't spell. O seems like a nerve has been hit here lol No, I'm all good thanks. Just slightly amused at your debating 'skills'. I think I'll leave it at that. " Yes I think you should, maybe understand the comment first would help dude | |||
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"Kinda amusing the idea we should be accepting Boris because of his smarts" I dont and I would actually question if he is so smart they say he is, does he really believe brexit could happen? I dont think so. | |||
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