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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So, how come the planet earth is dying whilst we have scientists on the planet earth who reckon they can bring planet mars to life?

Wouldn't it be more prudent to being by making planet earth into a more hospitable place for us simple humans?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Well, actually terraforming earth would require the climate to be changed with massive global warming.

So, it's the same scientists.

We have the experimental results here.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Well, actually terraforming earth would require the climate to be changed with massive global warming.

So, it's the same scientists.

We have the experimental results here."

Terraforming Mars*

Doh

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Well, actually terraforming earth would require the climate to be changed with massive global warming.

So, it's the same scientists.

We have the experimental results here."

Well actually, how come Mars can be terra formed yet planet earth is decaying?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Well, actually terraforming earth would require the climate to be changed with massive global warming.

So, it's the same scientists.

We have the experimental results here.

Well actually, how come Mars can be terra formed yet planet earth is decaying?"

The first question is as above. Could theoretically rather than can though.

The second part is because we are evolving faster than nature can I guess.

Most natural systems self-regulate, but we are no longer a natural system.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Okay, but in simple terms, how come we can think that we can take a planet which is maybe in or out of the inhabitable zone, to be a habitable home for humans.

And at the same time, we can take a guaranteed habitable planet for humans into a zone of inhability?

Lord help Mars when plastics arrive?

They already have?

No shit, Sherlock.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Humans are not subject to one set of completely aligned goals. Nor are scientists all subject to the same restraints, depending on who funds them, their state limits etc.

People have done grotesque levels of damage to other life here and caused global heating that will continue to increase its damage level.

But money and power are the key factors at play. It's not particularly controlled globally, when major powers are resistant to constraints and Trump and others deny the problems, as they continue to make them worse.

The wealthy are largely unrestrained, as they can pursue causing damage here and to Mars.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Okay, but in simple terms, how come we can think that we can take a planet which is maybe in or out of the inhabitable zone, to be a habitable home for humans.

And at the same time, we can take a guaranteed habitable planet for humans into a zone of inhability?

Lord help Mars when plastics arrive?

They already have?

No shit, Sherlock."

I'm not sure that "we" do.

It has just been postulated as possible.

There is also a big step between the science and engineering of being able to achieve something and the ethics of actually doing it.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

The Earth isn't dying. Humanity is making it gradually less habitable. If we don't survive our mistakes, it'll be no great loss; just natural selection.

As for Mars, humanity doesn't have the resources to terraform it and isn't likely to for centuries; if ever.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Okay, but in simple terms, how come we can think that we can take a planet which is maybe in or out of the inhabitable zone, to be a habitable home for humans.

And at the same time, we can take a guaranteed habitable planet for humans into a zone of inhability?

Lord help Mars when plastics arrive?

They already have?

No shit, Sherlock.

I'm not sure that "we" do.

It has just been postulated as possible.

There is also a big step between the science and engineering of being able to achieve something and the ethics of actually doing it."

Then wouldn't it be a slightly good idea to make the planet earth into a hospitable environment for human beings before making the planet mars into a place hospitable to human beings?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The Earth isn't dying. Humanity is making it gradually less habitable. If we don't survive our mistakes, it'll be no great loss; just natural selection.

As for Mars, humanity doesn't have the resources to terraform it and isn't likely to for centuries; if ever."

I do like your answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well, actually terraforming earth would require the climate to be changed with massive global warming.

So, it's the same scientists.

We have the experimental results here.

Well actually, how come Mars can be terra formed yet planet earth is decaying?

The first question is as above. Could theoretically rather than can though.

The second part is because we are evolving faster than nature can I guess.

Most natural systems self-regulate, but we are no longer a natural system."

What!! Were supernatural?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you leave leftists alone for a few days they make bellend statements all by themselves trying to justify their narrative.

It's hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you leave leftists alone for a few days they make bellend statements all by themselves trying to justify their narrative.

It's hilarious "

I think it's more a case of you not grasping the sentence and somehow blaming the "left" for it again.

It's clear that humans contribution to the planet is far beyond "natural", over the course if the past 200 years with the industrial revolution, push for profit, corporation greed, etc, has lead to a much faster paced change in the climate.

Or are you going to deny that too despite us lot currently being in another record breaking heatwave?

But the fact is, it's always been the wording that's been an issue, "global warming", "the earth is dying", etc lead to people just believing the most simplistic terms and fob it off "we still have winters", etc.

The Earth isn't dying, it'll just change itself to the point where WE, humans, will die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Earth isn't dying. Humanity is making it gradually less habitable. If we don't survive our mistakes, it'll be no great loss; just natural selection.

As for Mars, humanity doesn't have the resources to terraform it and isn't likely to for centuries; if ever."

Bloody hell, where is your positivity, nothing is impossible with positivity

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"The Earth isn't dying. Humanity is making it gradually less habitable. If we don't survive our mistakes, it'll be no great loss; just natural selection.

As for Mars, humanity doesn't have the resources to terraform it and isn't likely to for centuries; if ever.

Bloody hell, where is your positivity, nothing is impossible with positivity "

Boris just drained me of all my positivity.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"The Earth isn't dying. Humanity is making it gradually less habitable. If we don't survive our mistakes, it'll be no great loss; just natural selection.

As for Mars, humanity doesn't have the resources to terraform it and isn't likely to for centuries; if ever.

I do like your answer. "

Thanks.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The Earth isn't dying. Humanity is making it gradually less habitable. If we don't survive our mistakes, it'll be no great loss; just natural selection.

As for Mars, humanity doesn't have the resources to terraform it and isn't likely to for centuries; if ever."

This..

Perhaps when we learn that rather than invest in ways to kill each other we should be using that time, resources and minds to protect this planet as we need somewhere relatively stable to live on..

And the latter will be aong time after the former penny finally drops..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Global climate change should be something above the politics of left or right..

But the con trick of divide and conquer prevails and the exploiters continue..

Anyone tried eating money?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I may, can I propose that your line of thinking is the same as mine from the ages of 16-21.

That being:

"If we have the experimental and theoretical knowledge as well as the potential capacity to look at colonising other planets, why are we not prioritising this innovation and thinking towards solving our immediate contemporary issues on our home planet."

The answer is a combination of political reality, power and politics, alongside division of labour and human capital.

Not every chemist or physicist are going to be interested in renewable fuel or renewable energy production. Not every investor sees this as a good place to put their money, not every government is willing or align and commitment to an abstract threat as opposed to a domestic or national threat. Not every biologist is interested in crop genetics.

Basically, humans have different interests. And different priorities. It probably isn't possible to force all of humanitys' human capital to coherently focus on the issues facing us, and to stop individuals and groups from following other interests.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Too many people on the planet does not help ...stop breeding might help the cause ...I can't see my little plastic bag helping much ...still we could ask the royal family about carbon footprints etc ...total hypocrisy

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"So, how come the planet earth is dying whilst we have scientists on the planet earth who reckon they can bring planet mars to life?

Wouldn't it be more prudent to being by making planet earth into a more hospitable place for us simple humans?"
Without the plants and the animals etc the planet dies,look after the earth,the earth will look after us

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