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"Basically, they copied the members of the NDSAP in the Reichtsag in 1930, when they turned their back on an address by Dr Fritz Loewethal. It's one of the iconic images of the Nazis. The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NDSAP). "Really! I’m sure there are umpteen examples of political statements being made that include turning ones back when an anthem is played that are also not linked to being a Nazi. They have been democratically elected on a anti EU agenda, should they not represent the mandate? | |||
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" I’m sure there are umpteen examples of political statements being made that include turning ones back when an anthem is played that are also not linked to being a Nazi. " So many that you cannot cite one? | |||
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" I’m sure there are umpteen examples of political statements being made that include turning ones back when an anthem is played that are also not linked to being a Nazi. So many that you cannot cite one?" Taking the knee, must all be Nazis surely. | |||
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"it does kinda sum up the Brexit mentality, though - turning your back on the neighbours. " Im on a sun bed in Greece, my second home n every way, so maybe not. | |||
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" I’m sure there are umpteen examples of political statements being made that include turning ones back when an anthem is played that are also not linked to being a Nazi. So many that you cannot cite one? Taking the knee, must all be Nazis surely." You said there were umpteen examples of turning your back on an anthem. Taking the knee isn't one. | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK. "Wrong! They represent that people who voted for them, not the UK in it's entirety. | |||
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"At least Sinn Fein take a principled view and refuse to take their seats in Westminster. That display today was pig ignorance of the highest order. If the Brexit Party are so anti E.U. - just don’t fucking go." Agreed Just not going would send a stronger mature message. | |||
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"At least Sinn Fein take a principled view and refuse to take their seats in Westminster. That display today was pig ignorance of the highest order. If the Brexit Party are so anti E.U. - just don’t fucking go. Agreed Just not going would send a stronger mature message. " How exactly? They have been voted in to represent the interests of those opposed to EU federalism so surely they should do that? The comparison to Sinn Fein or Nazis is ridiculous, in my opinion. | |||
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"The Brexit fan club often to refer to the queue of countries waiting to following the example of the UK and walk out of the EU. How many MEPs from other countries turned their backs on the opening session of the Parliament? None. Nada. Zilch. Brexiteers, you are well and truly on your own with this one. " How many stay seated? | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front?" What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country! | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country! "I didn't vote for the fuckers. | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front?" Something like that and that was fucking pathetic as well | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country!
I didn't vote for the fuckers. "Either lot? | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country!
I didn't vote for the fuckers. "Ok, forgot you don't like anyone! | |||
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"The EU does NOT think The morons who the UK has sent to represent the UK are a representation of the UK? If the EU does think the morons who turned their backs are a representation of our countries perspective then it will think we are nothing more than petulant school children" All very childish I think | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country! "Lib dems are scum and proved that they are no more than children also | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country! Lib dems are scum and proved that they are no more than children also"Scum??? Would you spit on them? | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country!
I didn't vote for the fuckers.
Ok, forgot you don't like anyone! "To be fair, I did not vote for anyone in the €uros, so I am probably on humble ground here. But no, I don't vote Liberal. Wet Tories too embarrassed to call themselves Conservatives, I think. (Prejudice in the politics forum  ) | |||
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"Did all the Liberal Democrat MEPs wear yellow t-shirts with “stop Brexit” on the front? What about the slogan at the back!? No dignity whatsoever, yet remainers seem to think they represent the country! Lib dems are scum and proved that they are no more than children also
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Would you spit on them? "No I am above that,my spit is to good for them | |||
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"What are the brexit party even doing there ? They don’t want to be in the EU but are quite happy to take the EU’s paycheque but cannot even behave like the professionals they are supposed to be. A complete embarrassment to the UK " Yes, complete embarrassment - we should have left back in March and had nothing more to do with them | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK. "I would kneel on one knee as a protest, and look at whom I disapprove of clear in the eye I would not turn my back , that is always petty,pathetic, childish Yet these are NOT school children or even public individuals making their point , these people represent the whole UK all of us and their actions are inexcusable , in or out Europeans are our friends , I think utter contempt seems appropriate I'm no moaner, I am however ashamed by the revolting manor A country i live in is being portrayed | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK.
I would kneel on one knee as a protest, and look at whom I disapprove of clear in the eye
I would not turn my back , that is always petty,pathetic, childish
Yet these are NOT school children or even public individuals making their point , these people represent the whole UK all of us and their actions are inexcusable , in or out Europeans are our friends , I think utter contempt seems appropriate
I'm no moaner, I am however ashamed by the revolting manor
A country i live in is being portrayed "No mention of the t-shirt slogan so presumably you are proud of that! | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK.
I would kneel on one knee as a protest, and look at whom I disapprove of clear in the eye
I would not turn my back , that is always petty,pathetic, childish
Yet these are NOT school children or even public individuals making their point , these people represent the whole UK all of us and their actions are inexcusable , in or out Europeans are our friends , I think utter contempt seems appropriate
I'm no moaner, I am however ashamed by the revolting manor
A country i live in is being portrayed
No mention of the t-shirt slogan so presumably you are proud of that! "I dont think the methods or the perceptions or the outcomes of the protests are comparable I'm all for protests , throwing insults however I'm not ! In reality their actions were no better than moonies or tongue out raspberries | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK.
I would kneel on one knee as a protest, and look at whom I disapprove of clear in the eye
I would not turn my back , that is always petty,pathetic, childish
Yet these are NOT school children or even public individuals making their point , these people represent the whole UK all of us and their actions are inexcusable , in or out Europeans are our friends , I think utter contempt seems appropriate
I'm no moaner, I am however ashamed by the revolting manor
A country i live in is being portrayed
No mention of the t-shirt slogan so presumably you are proud of that!
I dont think the methods or the perceptions or the outcomes of the protests are comparable
I'm all for protests , throwing insults however I'm not ! In reality their actions were no better than moonies or tongue out raspberries "Is that because you have remainer bias! | |||
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"What are the brexit party even doing there ? They don’t want to be in the EU but are quite happy to take the EU’s paycheque but cannot even behave like the professionals they are supposed to be. A complete embarrassment to the UK Yes, complete embarrassment - we should have left back in March and had nothing more to do with them "Indeed but the EU have not and cannot play any part in us not leaving by that date, that belongs wholly on our UK Parliament. | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK.
I would kneel on one knee as a protest, and look at whom I disapprove of clear in the eye
I would not turn my back , that is always petty,pathetic, childish
Yet these are NOT school children or even public individuals making their point , these people represent the whole UK all of us and their actions are inexcusable , in or out Europeans are our friends , I think utter contempt seems appropriate
I'm no moaner, I am however ashamed by the revolting manor
A country i live in is being portrayed
No mention of the t-shirt slogan so presumably you are proud of that!
I dont think the methods or the perceptions or the outcomes of the protests are comparable
I'm all for protests , throwing insults however I'm not ! In reality their actions were no better than moonies or tongue out raspberries
Is that because you have remainer bias! "Not "remainer Bias", more like grown up decent behaviour. | |||
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"It just shows what a bunch of plebs Farage and his entourage are! They cannot even behave like adults when representing the UK ffs "Ah yes, Nige's Brexit Party following the example of the NAZI Party, but lets not forget the equally outrageous showing of the LibDems walking round the EU parliament in their orange T shirts emblazoned with 'bollox to brexit'. Not sure which should be most insulted, those they represent or the whole of the EU whose democracy they are bringing into disrepute. With luck both lots will be censured and banned without pay or expenses for a suitable period (maybe till 31 Oct). | |||
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" I'm all for protests , throwing insults however I'm not ! In reality their actions were no better than moonies or tongue out raspberries " Maybe they thought people were throwing milkshakes at them, and turned their back to keep their faces clean? | |||
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"Ahh remoaners posts are getting more laughable as the days go on. They were sent by the UK, so they do represent the UK.
I would kneel on one knee as a protest, and look at whom I disapprove of clear in the eye
I would not turn my back , that is always petty,pathetic, childish
Yet these are NOT school children or even public individuals making their point , these people represent the whole UK all of us and their actions are inexcusable , in or out Europeans are our friends , I think utter contempt seems appropriate
I'm no moaner, I am however ashamed by the revolting manor
A country i live in is being portrayed
No mention of the t-shirt slogan so presumably you are proud of that!
I dont think the methods or the perceptions or the outcomes of the protests are comparable
I'm all for protests , throwing insults however I'm not ! In reality their actions were no better than moonies or tongue out raspberries
Is that because you have remainer bias!
Not "remainer Bias", more like grown up decent behaviour. "Wouldn't crude messages on t-shirts come under decent behaviour, the Op doesn't think so, clear bias in my book! | |||
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"Anyway, I fear the Nazi analogy will resonate in European minds. Black Americans won't be what springs to mind. " Is that because the EU is racist? | |||
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"Not sure which should be most insulted, those they represent or the whole of the EU whose democracy they are bringing into disrepute. With luck both lots will be censured and banned without pay or expenses for a suitable period (maybe till 31 Oct)." Eu, insulting, disrepute .... hmmmmm Ursula Von Der Leyen - new president of E.U. - being investigated by the Bundestag for "misconduct" for allocation of defense contracts Christine Legarde - new head of ecb - convicted of criminal negligence whilst in charge of the IMF. Illegal funds were just “resting” in her own account. Josep Borrell Fontelles - new High representative for foreign affairs and security policy - criminal conviction for serious insider trading.
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"Not sure which should be most insulted, those they represent or the whole of the EU whose democracy they are bringing into disrepute. With luck both lots will be censured and banned without pay or expenses for a suitable period (maybe till 31 Oct). Eu, insulting, disrepute .... hmmmmm Ursula Von Der Leyen - new president of E.U. - being investigated by the Bundestag for "misconduct" for allocation of defense contracts Christine Legarde - new head of ecb - convicted of criminal negligence whilst in charge of the IMF. Illegal funds were just “resting” in her own account. Josep Borrell Fontelles - new High representative for foreign affairs and security policy - criminal conviction for serious insider trading.
"Yet people want to be part of this poxy corrupt organisation,the mind boggles | |||
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"Eu, insulting, disrepute .... hmmmmm Ursula Von Der Leyen - new president of E.U. - being investigated by the Bundestag for "misconduct" for allocation of defense contracts Christine Legarde - new head of ecb - convicted of criminal negligence whilst in charge of the IMF. Illegal funds were just “resting” in her own account. Josep Borrell Fontelles - new High representative for foreign affairs and security policy - criminal conviction for serious insider trading.
"At no point did I suggest that this is the only thing that has brought the European Parliament, Commission or any other part of the EU's apparatus of government into disrepute. However I still maintain that such conduct in the Parliamentary Chamber needs to attract some sort of serious disciplinary action. That you are reduced to a 'what aboutism' to defend the indefensible betrays the total bankruptcy of your position. | |||
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"i think the difference between the lib dems and the brexit party is that lib dems are there to be part of the political process.... whereas the brexit party position is there are there NOT to be a part of the political process... thats where you can use the comparison of the brexit party and sinn fein... sinn fein take the stand to not send mp's to parliament... brexit party voted against all issues (even those that benefit britain such as laws changing lorry safety for example, the ban in the ivory trade being another, food safety, extra protection of holidaymakers, greater transpacy in clinical medical trials.. ect ect ) remember farage was famously part of the EU fishing committee and attended all of 1 of the 75 meetings they had when he was on it..... " Surely being there, in whatever capacity, is being a part of the political process? Just because they don't do what you think they should doesn't mean they aren't a part of the political process. | |||
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"Eu, insulting, disrepute .... hmmmmm Ursula Von Der Leyen - new president of E.U. - being investigated by the Bundestag for "misconduct" for allocation of defense contracts Christine Legarde - new head of ecb - convicted of criminal negligence whilst in charge of the IMF. Illegal funds were just “resting” in her own account. Josep Borrell Fontelles - new High representative for foreign affairs and security policy - criminal conviction for serious insider trading.
At no point did I suggest that this is the only thing that has brought the European Parliament, Commission or any other part of the EU's apparatus of government into disrepute. However I still maintain that such conduct in the Parliamentary Chamber needs to attract some sort of serious disciplinary action. That you are reduced to a 'what aboutism' to defend the indefensible betrays the total bankruptcy of your position."Just sayin  | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are." Brexiters are clowns .If it keeps them happy it's cool with me .Small statements please small minds... | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Brexiters are clowns .If it keeps them happy it's cool with me .Small statements please small minds... ""Happy" seems to be a word most remainers have never heard of they like to spend their time talking about the war and eating shit sandwiches, give me happy anyday! | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Brexiters are clowns .If it keeps them happy it's cool with me .Small statements please small minds...
"Happy" seems to be a word most remainers have never heard of they like to spend their time talking about the war and eating shit sandwiches, give me happy anyday! "I'm always happy.I hope you are happy .Its a beautiful day.. | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Brexiters are clowns .If it keeps them happy it's cool with me .Small statements please small minds...
"Happy" seems to be a word most remainers have never heard of they like to spend their time talking about the war and eating shit sandwiches, give me happy anyday!
I'm always happy.I hope you are happy .Its a beautiful day.. "I did say "most" Bob and yes I'm always happy but plenty on here like to wallow in doom and gloom,they could do with a day off surely! | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are." Have you got your 'Bollocks to Brexit' T-Shirt yet? I've heard the new version even has a hand drawn cock on it. | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Brexiters are clowns .If it keeps them happy it's cool with me .Small statements please small minds...
"Happy" seems to be a word most remainers have never heard of they like to spend their time talking about the war and eating shit sandwiches, give me happy anyday! "They're not shit sandwiches....they are crustless cucumber sandwiches cut into triangles. | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Have you got your 'Bollocks to Brexit' T-Shirt yet? I've heard the new version even has a hand drawn cock on it." Maybe the Lib dems will bring a cap or Beanie hat version out, then they will truly be what we always suspected...Dickheads. | |||
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Have you got your 'Bollocks to Brexit' T-Shirt yet? I've heard the new version even has a hand drawn cock on it. Maybe the Lib dems will bring a cap or Beanie hat version out, then they will truly be what we always suspected...Dickheads. "centy your ban must have been a long one......... you must have been itching to say that for at least 7 days....
anyway... we find out who becomes the lib dem leader tomorrow, and the tory leader wednesday.... and then we will see how the chips fall and how many tory mps defect....
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"It shows how immature those brexiters are. Have you got your 'Bollocks to Brexit' T-Shirt yet? I've heard the new version even has a hand drawn cock on it. Maybe the Lib dems will bring a cap or Beanie hat version out, then they will truly be what we always suspected...Dickheads.
centy your ban must have been a long one......... you must have been itching to say that for at least 7 days....
anyway... we find out who becomes the lib dem leader tomorrow, and the tory leader wednesday.... and then we will see how the chips fall and how many tory mps defect....
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"i think if his 1st speech from outside no.10 is to make "no deal" in effect official government policy.... i think you may see some "jump".... i thought 1.5mp's bolting for an over/under so no one could push was an interesting starting point..." Really? Where have you been for the last 6 weeks? No deal is not Boris's policy as he's said clear as day at EVERY conservative party husting over the last 6 weeks, that he's going to try to get a deal, but if a deal can't be reached he'll leave with no deal on October 31st. Interesting that people like Amber Rudd, who were previously against no deal, are now saying they would be prepared to back no deal, if a deal can't be reached by October 31st. Maybe the European election results will have focused the minds of many Tory MP's. Also (and you always do this) you are overlooking all those Labour MP's in Leave voting areas of the Midlands and the North. 26 of them who wrote a letter to Corbyn telling him not to back a 2nd referendum. Many of them have said if it comes to a choice between no deal, and no brexit then they will vote for no deal. | |||
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"i think if his 1st speech from outside no.10 is to make "no deal" in effect official government policy.... i think you may see some "jump".... i thought 1.5mp's bolting for an over/under so no one could push was an interesting starting point... Really? Where have you been for the last 6 weeks? No deal is not Boris's policy as he's said clear as day at EVERY conservative party husting over the last 6 weeks, that he's going to try to get a deal, but if a deal can't be reached he'll leave with no deal on October 31st. Interesting that people like Amber Rudd, who were previously against no deal, are now saying they would be prepared to back no deal, if a deal can't be reached by October 31st. Maybe the European election results will have focused the minds of many Tory MP's. Also (and you always do this) you are overlooking all those Labour MP's in Leave voting areas of the Midlands and the North. 26 of them who wrote a letter to Corbyn telling him not to back a 2nd referendum. Many of them have said if it comes to a choice between no deal, and no brexit then they will vote for no deal. " two things... 1) interesting that you mention Amber Rudd.... quick question, do you know what her majority is in here hastings and rye seat? its 346.... remember when people were talking about how tight peterborough was! peterborough is in effect roughly twice as safe! so i would suggest her position change comes from one of self preservation! in that any challenge from a brexit party candidate would likely split the vote! 2) if you think the conservatives are now going to gain seats in places where they haven't before... then you have to acknowledge that Bojo is so Toxic in scotland that the conservatives would lose every seat they have to the SNP | |||
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"i think if his 1st speech from outside no.10 is to make "no deal" in effect official government policy.... i think you may see some "jump".... i thought 1.5mp's bolting for an over/under so no one could push was an interesting starting point... Really? Where have you been for the last 6 weeks? No deal is not Boris's policy as he's said clear as day at EVERY conservative party husting over the last 6 weeks, that he's going to try to get a deal, but if a deal can't be reached he'll leave with no deal on October 31st. Interesting that people like Amber Rudd, who were previously against no deal, are now saying they would be prepared to back no deal, if a deal can't be reached by October 31st. Maybe the European election results will have focused the minds of many Tory MP's. Also (and you always do this) you are overlooking all those Labour MP's in Leave voting areas of the Midlands and the North. 26 of them who wrote a letter to Corbyn telling him not to back a 2nd referendum. Many of them have said if it comes to a choice between no deal, and no brexit then they will vote for no deal. " Yet here we are three years later
The country is divided. There is no clear mandate for what you demand however much you stamp your feet.
The fact that your mendacious hero is refusing to rule out suspending Parliament to force an outcome against the UK parliamentary sovereignty that you claim to hold so dear is ample evidence of that.
Amber Rudd wants to stay in Cabinet for her own reasons.
Margot James resigned to vote against prorogation and Hammond and Gauk arw leaving if Bodger is elected.
The EU election results focus the minds of those in remain supporting seats just as much as leave ones. Uxbridge for instance.
The majority of the Labour party wants to remain and certainly does not want no deal.
It's the refuge of the naieve to believe in clarity in a situation like this. | |||
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