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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the rest of the UK continues to try and drag us back into the EU, and also continues to elect leftist members to our parliament, then I am happy to see them get their independence. I’d even help build the walls required to stop them wandering in and out of England. That is how people are seeing their little threats to break up the UK. If that is their attitude then fuck them. If they want to boost their tiny populations, then perhaps English remoaners can move their and fuck off with then.

There you go, two birds with one stone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we build a wall around London for the same reason?

I can see how the two views can be reconciled. The UK Union has joint monetary, fiscal etc which the EU doesn't have. Its a softer union which can cause bumps. Eg joint currency but independant banks. Thats possibly why the US, while a range of economies, doesn't quite have the same challenges.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?"
I cant work out what your point is who is arguing to leave the uk but maintain the united kingdom? they are the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?I cant work out what your point is who is arguing to leave the uk but maintain the united kingdom? they are the same thing."

Presume they meant eu rather than UK. Based on subject title.

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?I cant work out what your point is who is arguing to leave the uk but maintain the united kingdom? they are the same thing.

Presume they meant eu rather than UK. Based on subject title. "

Typo.

My mistake.

Leave the EU but maintain the UK.

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?I cant work out what your point is who is arguing to leave the uk but maintain the united kingdom? they are the same thing."

My mistake. See above.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?I cant work out what your point is who is arguing to leave the uk but maintain the united kingdom? they are the same thing.

Presume they meant eu rather than UK. Based on subject title.

Typo.

My mistake.

Leave the EU but maintain the UK."
But why does it seem incoherent we had a united kingdom before we joined the eu.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?"

I followed the debates before brexit and most said that if scotland or northern ireland voted to leave the UK they would respect it. I don't think anyone takes the idea of wales leaving seriously.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

You think the next PM will give Holyrood the authority to hold a second independence referendum?

Its what the SNP are asking for...

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"You think the next PM will give Holyrood the authority to hold a second independence referendum?

Its what the SNP are asking for..."

well bojo a few years ago did say that if he were PM he would offer scotland "full fiscal autonomy"..... so lets see if he actually does it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?"
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I'm sure your aware that through the life of the UK over hundreds of years there's been a large minority of all four countries that would be happy to leave the UK, it's not exactly breaking news.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"You think the next PM will give Holyrood the authority to hold a second independence referendum?

Its what the SNP are asking for...

well bojo a few years ago did say that if he were PM he would offer scotland "full fiscal autonomy"..... so lets see if he actually does it"

Would SNP be happy with fiscal autonomy?

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By *asyuk OP Man
over a year ago

West London

"How can you argue to leave the UK but argue to maintain the United Kingdom or vice versa.

It seems incoherent to me.

Surely it must be both or neither?

The Conservative party seems to have decided on neither.

Is that the same for all Brexit supporters?I cant work out what your point is who is arguing to leave the uk but maintain the united kingdom? they are the same thing.

Presume they meant eu rather than UK. Based on subject title.

Typo.

My mistake.

Leave the EU but maintain the UK.But why does it seem incoherent we had a united kingdom before we joined the eu. "

Really?

The UK wants "sovereignty" as a nation state.

Why shouldn't Scotland and Ireland and Wales have it?

We can get just as great if not better trade with the rest of the world as a smaller country alone so why not the individual nations?

We are "oppressed" by laws from somewhere else. So are the Scots, Irish and Welsh.

We don't need trade with our nearby, wealthy neighbours. The USA and China will be eager to do deals with us and the EU needs us more than we need them. Why should Wales, Scotland and Ireland not do the same? After all, England sells more to them than they sell to us.

What's the difference between 400 years and 40 years?

Get it yet?

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