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"Disinfectants - for all the times we will be licking that orange arse in the White House" You always manage to make us smile  | |||
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"The most annoying thing is the "we'll recover" argument which is completely refuted by going "based on what" " Exactly, sadly far too many people believe in this fantasy... | |||
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"The most annoying thing is the "we'll recover" argument which is completely refuted by going "based on what" Exactly, sadly far too many people believe in this fantasy..." I forgot, their is going to be an upside in fruit picking and hand car washes...  | |||
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"The most annoying thing is the "we'll recover" argument which is completely refuted by going "based on what" " Recover from what? They said there were no downsides to this. | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? "Financial services will when we deregulate and further drop taxes. I'm sure we can launder money far more efficiently post-Brexit. It doesn't generate many jobs though. | |||
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"Quite a lot of people hope and pray for the eu to fail, and would actively act to try and make this happen if they can. They would rather do the opposite of pull their weight and take responsibility, to try destroy the eu just to feel they are 'right'. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is incredibly dangerous. Quite a few who initially voted leave in good faith are actually changing their minds instead, as they are starting to see through the whole charade. I'm so glad this isn't the early 1940's. Just surrender to a no deal brexit so we can end this war! All those soldiers out there making things worse for us. Look how many jobs have been lost because they won't see sense." | |||
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"So much of this makes sense when you spin the position. Quite a lot of people hope and pray for the eu to fail, and would actively act to try and make this happen if they can. They would rather do the opposite of pull their weight and take responsibility, to try destroy the eu just to feel they are 'right'. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is incredibly dangerous. Quite a few who initially voted leave in good faith are actually changing their minds instead, as they are starting to see through the whole charade. I'm so glad this isn't the early 1940's. Just surrender to a no deal brexit so we can end this war! All those soldiers out there making things worse for us. Look how many jobs have been lost because they won't see sense."  | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? "If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy . It seems that everyone is a winner. | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy .
It seems that everyone is a winner. "Negotiate with whom? Which countries will we see reduced tarrifs from to offset the increases from those we currently import from tariff free... | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy .
It seems that everyone is a winner. "None of this is true. Are you a Russian controlled autobot? | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy .
It seems that everyone is a winner.
None of this is true. Are you a Russian controlled autobot?"No....I don't think he’s quite as sophisticated as that | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy .
It seems that everyone is a winner.
None of this is true. Are you a Russian controlled autobot?"It is in his mind, constant repeating of such things and other false claims in a daily mantra helps enforce the message and blocks out the reality.. | |||
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" If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy . It seems that everyone is a winner. " pat.... stop pushing this.... it has all been debunked! why keep spreading lies..... | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? "so how will they benefit if we stay in the EU It has rained for the last 2 days non stop I guess to people like you that is to do with brexit to | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? so how will they benefit if we stay in the EU
It has rained for the last 2 days non stop I guess to people like you that is to do with brexit to"All the above will suffer (some already have ) from Brexit , therefore it is beneficial for them to stay in the EU . Give me one example of an industry that will benefit from leaving the EU? Try to answer the OP? | |||
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"Quite a lot of people hope and pray for our independence to be able to fail, and would actively act to try and make this happen if they can. They would rather do the opposite of pull their weight and take responsibility, to try destroy the whole country just to feel they are 'right'. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is incredibly dangerous. Thankfully, other countries in the EU (or certainly people in them) are rooting for our successful freedom, as they would then be galvanised into making their own bids for independence. It's worth losing the UK to the EU superstate on our way to a world dictatorship as planned. Just let them have what they want. If we don't they will continue to persecute us and hurt our feelings bubbles. Short term convenience is key so we need to maintain the status quo. No European country could ever survive without the EU. Greece for example with 50% unemployment for young people etc. How could they ever have had so many job increases if they'd left the EU? The popular media with their owners would never push an agenda 24/7, they just report things fairly. The EU really is like Hell. Once you're in, you can never ever leave. As I said on the day of the result, the real fight starts now. Stop the uncertainty and just fully leave, then we can start to deal with the damage caused by the uncertainty, brought about entirely by Treason Mayhem and her mob. Stop telling leave voters they didn't really vote leave. Most leavers aren't changing their mind no matter how long you drag this out. Quite a few who initially voted remain in good faith are actually changing their minds instead, as they are starting to see through the whole charade. I'm so glad this isn't the early 1940's. Just surrender so we can end this war! All those soldiers out there making things worse for us. Look how many jobs have been lost because they won't see sense." We are independent. Any treaty surrenders some "independence" because you agree to follow a set of rules so your decisions are constrained. Do you disagree? The bigger and more complex the treaty, be it defence or climate change or trade, the more "independence" you "surrender". However, if all the parties involved benefit then that is what they agree to do then that is fine. Do you disagree? What agreement can you name where you do not "surrender" some "independence"? Are you claiming that the financial and social situation that the UK and other countries find themselves in is someone else's fault? Do you really believe that? That someone else is to blame for the choices we have made? What do you think leaving the EU will solve in people's everyday lives? Much of the UK press is owned by a man who wants to leave the EU because it constrains his power yet you claim the "media"is lying to you. You just choose to read and believe what re-enforces your opinions. Support for the EU has risen in every member outside of the UK. Even the populist parties want to remain and change it. They, in fact, want more money from richer States with less responsibility for how it's spent. Have a look on Google trends. You will see that the UK search results for the EU spiked after the vote. You will see that immigration was searched for far more than the economy. You will find that all Leavers said that a "no deal" was "project fear". How dare you invoke the war and try and associate yourself with the bravery of the people who built the institutions that you want to tear down. Read outside your information bubble and try to actually think through some of the consequences of the actions that you are so eager to embrace. | |||
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"Quite a lot of people hope and pray for our independence to be able to fail, and would actively act to try and make this happen if they can. They would rather do the opposite of pull their weight and take responsibility, to try destroy the whole country just to feel they are 'right'. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is incredibly dangerous. Thankfully, other countries in the EU (or certainly people in them) are rooting for our successful freedom, as they would then be galvanised into making their own bids for independence. It's worth losing the UK to the EU superstate on our way to a world dictatorship as planned. Just let them have what they want. If we don't they will continue to persecute us and hurt our feelings bubbles. Short term convenience is key so we need to maintain the status quo. No European country could ever survive without the EU. Greece for example with 50% unemployment for young people etc. How could they ever have had so many job increases if they'd left the EU? The popular media with their owners would never push an agenda 24/7, they just report things fairly. The EU really is like Hell. Once you're in, you can never ever leave. As I said on the day of the result, the real fight starts now. Stop the uncertainty and just fully leave, then we can start to deal with the damage caused by the uncertainty, brought about entirely by Treason Mayhem and her mob. Stop telling leave voters they didn't really vote leave. Most leavers aren't changing their mind no matter how long you drag this out. Quite a few who initially voted remain in good faith are actually changing their minds instead, as they are starting to see through the whole charade. I'm so glad this isn't the early 1940's. Just surrender so we can end this war! All those soldiers out there making things worse for us. Look how many jobs have been lost because they won't see sense." What industry benefits from Brexit and how? | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy .
It seems that everyone is a winner.
None of this is true. Are you a Russian controlled autobot?
It is in his mind, constant repeating of such things and other false claims in a daily mantra helps enforce the message and blocks out the reality.. "Exactly this | |||
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"Ok, so if we are going to have Brexit, which industries are going to benefit? Car - nope Aerospace - nope Shipbuilding - nope Financial Services - nope Retail - nope Steel - nope Where is the upside going to be? If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy .
It seems that everyone is a winner. "In a no-deal Brexit we aren't negotiating are we? | |||
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"Quite a lot of people hope and pray for our independence to be able to fail, and would actively act to try and make this happen if they can. They would rather do the opposite of pull their weight and take responsibility, to try destroy the whole country just to feel they are 'right'. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is incredibly dangerous. Thankfully, other countries in the EU (or certainly people in them) are rooting for our successful freedom, as they would then be galvanised into making their own bids for independence. It's worth losing the UK to the EU superstate on our way to a world dictatorship as planned. Just let them have what they want. If we don't they will continue to persecute us and hurt our feelings bubbles. Short term convenience is key so we need to maintain the status quo. No European country could ever survive without the EU. Greece for example with 50% unemployment for young people etc. How could they ever have had so many job increases if they'd left the EU? The popular media with their owners would never push an agenda 24/7, they just report things fairly. The EU really is like Hell. Once you're in, you can never ever leave. As I said on the day of the result, the real fight starts now. Stop the uncertainty and just fully leave, then we can start to deal with the damage caused by the uncertainty, brought about entirely by Treason Mayhem and her mob. Stop telling leave voters they didn't really vote leave. Most leavers aren't changing their mind no matter how long you drag this out. Quite a few who initially voted remain in good faith are actually changing their minds instead, as they are starting to see through the whole charade. I'm so glad this isn't the early 1940's. Just surrender so we can end this war! All those soldiers out there making things worse for us. Look how many jobs have been lost because they won't see sense. We are independent. Any treaty surrenders some "independence" because you agree to follow a set of rules so your decisions are constrained. Do you disagree? The bigger and more complex the treaty, be it defence or climate change or trade, the more "independence" you "surrender". However, if all the parties involved benefit then that is what they agree to do then that is fine. Do you disagree? What agreement can you name where you do not "surrender" some "independence"? Are you claiming that the financial and social situation that the UK and other countries find themselves in is someone else's fault? Do you really believe that? That someone else is to blame for the choices we have made? What do you think leaving the EU will solve in people's everyday lives? Much of the UK press is owned by a man who wants to leave the EU because it constrains his power yet you claim the "media"is lying to you. You just choose to read and believe what re-enforces your opinions. Support for the EU has risen in every member outside of the UK. Even the populist parties want to remain and change it. They, in fact, want more money from richer States with less responsibility for how it's spent. Have a look on Google trends. You will see that the UK search results for the EU spiked after the vote. You will see that immigration was searched for far more than the economy. You will find that all Leavers said that a "no deal" was "project fear". How dare you invoke the war and try and associate yourself with the bravery of the people who built the institutions that you want to tear down. Read outside your information bubble and try to actually think through some of the consequences of the actions that you are so eager to embrace." | |||
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"Stay-cationing. That's why i'm opening my b&b" Well I am glad you’re doing your bit for the planet....have you had any takers yet....or is it still at the “expressing an interest” stage? | |||
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"Matron obviously hasn't been round with the medicine trolley yet. " ....stop it! | |||
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"Give me one example of an industry that will benefit from leaving the EU? " Bailiffs? Currency traders? US health insurance companies? Anyone who knows how to run a 'short' on the stockmarket?  | |||
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"Money money money still not worked it out yet it's nothing to do with money. Brexit is about self worth,and freedom of choice. By the remain thinking let's get rid of the army and parliament that would save billions. After all the EU are forming a army and the EU council can run our little country. Working of the EU everyone gets a job and is happy in the EU superstate. " Hahahaha, is there any point in anyone trying to show you how wrong you are? Probably not  | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier " Hahahahahaha. Freedom of choice? give me one example where the EU have restricted ‘your’ freedom of choice | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier " Are you saying by leaving youve voted for a harder life.... | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier Are you saying by leaving youve voted for a harder life.... "But but but, we have our ‘freedom’ back | |||
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"Money money money still not worked it out yet it's nothing to do with money. Brexit is about self worth,and freedom of choice. By the remain thinking let's get rid of the army and parliament that would save billions. After all the EU are forming a army and the EU council can run our little country. Working of the EU everyone gets a job and is happy in the EU superstate. " You have no self-worth or choice? How will your self-esteem improve outside the EU? What makes you feel emasculated now? What would you like more choice to do that you don't have now? | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier Hahahahahaha. Freedom of choice? give me one example where the EU have restricted ‘your’ freedom of choice "We wanted to remove VAT from tampons and other similar products, and was refused permission I could go on but you only asked for one. | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier Hahahahahaha. Freedom of choice? give me one example where the EU have restricted ‘your’ freedom of choice We wanted to remove VAT from tampons and other similar products, and was refused permission I could go on but you only asked for one."In exchange for the biggest free trade area on the planet, we harmonised our VAT and tariff rates. It's taken us several years to renegotiate a 0% tax rate, but that happens when you renegotiate any international treaty. What else are you upset about? Are we just going to run through the standard list that gets rebutted every time we go through this process | |||
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"Money money money still not worked it out yet it's nothing to do with money. Brexit is about self worth,and freedom of choice. By the remain thinking let's get rid of the army and parliament that would save billions. After all the EU are forming a army and the EU council can run our little country. Working of the EU everyone gets a job and is happy in the EU superstate. " I hear these concerns about having an EU army but no explanation why this is a bad thing. What does an EU Army mean to you? Given the UK gets involved in most conflicts as it is maybe our forces would be sent to fight less frequently if the EU was deciding rather than our politicians who follow the US into wars. I am NOT suggesting an EU Army is a good thing but at least explain why it's bad. | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier Hahahahahaha. Freedom of choice? give me one example where the EU have restricted ‘your’ freedom of choice We wanted to remove VAT from tampons and other similar products, and was refused permission I could go on but you only asked for one."How is that YOUR freedom of choice? You can still go to the supermarket and buy tampons from the same range as before...  | |||
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"Money money money still not worked it out yet it's nothing to do with money. Brexit is about self worth,and freedom of choice. By the remain thinking let's get rid of the army and parliament that would save billions. After all the EU are forming a army and the EU council can run our little country. Working of the EU everyone gets a job and is happy in the EU superstate. " I've read some silly comments on here but you've raised the bar somewhat  | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier Hahahahahaha. Freedom of choice? give me one example where the EU have restricted ‘your’ freedom of choice We wanted to remove VAT from tampons and other similar products, and was refused permission I could go on but you only asked for one."Yet we have 5% of VAT out of the current 20% that is under our control that can be reduced yet the government do not wish to which would easily reduce any burden that a bit of VAT imposes on a sanny. | |||
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" If we leave on wto terms, we are then in a position to negotiate very favourable terms. Lower food and cloth prices will help the poor and with more money available to spend the additional expenditure will create a buoyant economy . It seems that everyone is a winner. pat.... stop pushing this.... it has all been debunked! why keep spreading lies....." A difference of opinion is hardly a lie. Are you saying that I am not entitled to accept the opinions of some highly successfull business men but instead accept the opinions of people posting on here . I am not referring to you ( for the purposes of clarity) but there are a few posters who seem to be logged on here non stop and their views removed from the real world .. If we leave on no deal terms then deals will materialise shortly afterwards . On a simplistic basis the EU cannot afford to lose our business . Cheaper food and clothing prices benefit the less well off in society . I even pasted in a detailed analysis of the scenario. | |||
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But but but, we have our ‘freedom’ back "Whatever the fuck that means .It doesn't mean freedom of movement that's for sure.. | |||
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"Ha ha, Well call me old fashioned but I tend to buy clothes and wear them for a few years so that is just a tangent you going off down. My question also begs Lets say my Jeans cost £ 12 after the discount and next year the pound tanks and loses 20% of it'value, how can my jeans still be £ 12 next year. and not mean the price actually goes up 20% so they will be £ 14.40 or mean that the bangladeshi manufacturer has to absorb the loss or lose our business. Somebody has got to lose out here. Can somebody explain to me who LOL. Surely some people in Bangladesh are relying on my custom. Maybe it's designer goods that will become cheaper. I've never bought that stuff so where am I going to benefit from all this ? " Exactly - it just does not add up - somebody has to lose out at some point in the cycle but Pat is only interested in successful men not the health of the planet or sweat shops in bangladesh.  | |||
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"Follow the sheep makes life easier Hahahahahaha. Freedom of choice? give me one example where the EU have restricted ‘your’ freedom of choice We wanted to remove VAT from tampons and other similar products, and was refused permission I could go on but you only asked for one."This is a bit sketchy so someone may be able to confirm details... The eu looked at removing tax on tampon and care items. An amended version of this lost by one vote. However (and I'm not 100% on this) not all Meps voted... And I believe farage and other ukip/TBP were among these. (happy to be corrected on this. Naviagting eu websites isn't the easiest on the phone) Of course it doesn't stop the point that there may be eu rules we don't like. And can't change. But it does show the eu can change. And the risk of putting anti eu Meps into roles. | |||
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"Ha ha, Well call me old fashioned but I tend to buy clothes and wear them for a few years so that is just a tangent you going off down. My question also begs Lets say my Jeans cost £ 12 after the discount and next year the pound tanks and loses 20% of it'value, how can my jeans still be £ 12 next year. and not mean the price actually goes up 20% so they will be £ 14.40 or mean that the bangladeshi manufacturer has to absorb the loss or lose our business. Somebody has got to lose out here. Can somebody explain to me who LOL. Surely some people in Bangladesh are relying on my custom. Maybe it's designer goods that will become cheaper. I've never bought that stuff so where am I going to benefit from all this ? Exactly - it just does not add up - somebody has to lose out at some point in the cycle but Pat is only interested in successful men not the health of the planet or sweat shops in bangladesh. "It’s called consumerism - and we are all guilty | |||
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