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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so "

I’d really rather we stayed in the UK within the EU

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By *wosmilersCouple
over a year ago

Heathrowish

I'd rather I won the Euromillions but you don't always get what you want.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I'd rather I won the Euromillions but you don't always get what you want. "

Sadly Brexit is almost the opposite for the vast majority of the country...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd rather I won the Euromillions but you don't always get what you want.

Sadly Brexit is almost the opposite for the vast majority of the country..."

Except it isn't is it

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I'd rather I won the Euromillions but you don't always get what you want.

Sadly Brexit is almost the opposite for the vast majority of the country...

Except it isn't is it"

Oh yeh, I forgot. Brexit is the land of milk and honey, unicorns on every street corner and cadburys buttons whenever you want them.

Ffs, there is Zero evidence of any benefit from leaving - no matter how hard you close your eyes and hope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always used to believe in the political maxim......"People do not vote to make themselves poorer"...How untrue that has become as ignorance and bullshitting are now considered skills to be admired...In the case of Farage and Boris they qualify on every count

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I always used to believe in the political maxim......"People do not vote to make themselves poorer"...How untrue that has become as ignorance and bullshitting are now considered skills to be admired...In the case of Farage and Boris they qualify on every count "
That is right with brexit it is true, people vote themselves into poverty for whatever reason they are told to.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The disintegration of the United Kingdom is the inexorable outcome of the Brexiteer logic.

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

One blames Westminster for everything, the other blames Brussels.

Thats nationalism for you, it must have a scapegoat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One blames Westminster for everything, the other blames Brussels.

Thats nationalism for you, it must have a scapegoat. "

Think i asked you this before who else stands up for scots like the snp do ?and why are you so keen to keep an unequal union together ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so "

Scotland will leave the uk in the not too distant future and the north of Ireland will unite with the republic and prob wales in a few yrs time ,the uk has been destroyed by right wing tories

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

if brexit is gona break up the union id have thought all the people who want scottish independence would be for brexit.after all it will deliver what the snp and its supporters want same goes for northern ireland brexit will bring about a united ireland so its a win for the scottish and the irish isnt it?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so

Scotland will leave the uk in the not too distant future and the north of Ireland will unite with the republic and prob wales in a few yrs time ,the uk has been destroyed by right wing tories"

I think that what you are saying is absolutely correct and there is an inescapable irony in the fact that they are actually called “The Conservative and Unionist Party.”

Everything that is going on at the moment in the Conservative Party is the complete opposite of traditional conservative values as I have understood them to be for my entire life.

The clue is in the name ... Conservative... steady... appreciative of strong and stable institutions, counter-revolutionary, prudent, cautious, reliable, pragmatic..... You get the picture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so

Scotland will leave the uk in the not too distant future and the north of Ireland will unite with the republic and prob wales in a few yrs time ,the uk has been destroyed by right wing tories

I think that what you are saying is absolutely correct and there is an inescapable irony in the fact that they are actually called “The Conservative and Unionist Party.”

Everything that is going on at the moment in the Conservative Party is the complete opposite of traditional conservative values as I have understood them to be for my entire life.

The clue is in the name ... Conservative... steady... appreciative of strong and stable institutions, counter-revolutionary, prudent, cautious, reliable, pragmatic..... You get the picture."

The conservatives have become a right wing somewhat neo nazi party ,labour well they are nothing but abstainers totally lost their socialist values of standing up for the less well off thats why scotland has no choice but to seek indendence and try keep us in europe which the vast majority of scots want and there is no doubt that it will happen quite soon

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Sturgeon is going to have talks with the eu for their membership in the eu

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"[Removed by poster at 11/06/19 14:34:12]"
wont meet the criteria to join mate.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Really pleased to see how Spain has shifted its position on Scotland since England voted to take the UK out of the EU.

The consul general in Edinburgh made this clear in a letter setting out the position of the Spanish Government.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 11/06/19 14:34:12]wont meet the criteria to join mate. "
We can hope for the best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The real problem is whenever the Tories get in......they only care about the rich and richer,basically if your 100 + miles north or further than london then your a 2nd class citizen.

Then there's who else to vote for? Corbyn is a joke,sturgeon is independence mad and a troublemaker who surely has had her time as she certainly doesn't represent the majority of Scotland's wishes which was remain in the u.k.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Really pleased to see how Spain has shifted its position on Scotland since England voted to take the UK out of the EU.

The consul general in Edinburgh made this clear in a letter setting out the position of the Spanish Government."

Hmmm maybe not

He’s been sacked

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Spain hasn't refuted anything in the letter, however.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Spain hasn't refuted anything in the letter, however."

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"Spain hasn't refuted anything in the letter, however."

Why would they?

It wasn't written by the Spanish government in the first place.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The consul general represents the Spanish Ambassador of the Government of Spain.

A Scottish newspaper reported the views of a right-wing Spanish MEP on Catalonia and how this influenced Spanish thinking.

The consul general said this did not reflect the policy of the Spanish Government. This chimed with recent comments by the Spanish Foreign Minister who said Spain was relaxed about the idea of Scotland joining the EU.

The letter very much was about setting out the position of the Spanish Government.

Once it became public, Spain removed him. In doing so, they said he had acted without authorisation of the Ambassador or his director of media communication.

The views expressed in the letter were not challenged, only the fact it had been sent without permission (and threatened to drag Spain into a domestic issue of another EU state).

I imagine Spain may be happy for a degree of ambivalence at this stage of Brexit, given that the EU is still keeping the Gibraltar card up its sleeve, preferring to play the Irish border one at this stage.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Of course the content of the letter wasn’t challenged, as in doing so would also have made a statement.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The real problem is whenever the Tories get in......they only care about the rich and richer,basically if your 100 + miles north or further than london then your a 2nd class citizen.

Then there's who else to vote for? Corbyn is a joke,sturgeon is independence mad and a troublemaker who surely has had her time as she certainly doesn't represent the majority of Scotland's wishes which was remain in the u.k."
In the last referendum in 2016 the scots voted to stay in the eu with 62/38 which is the majority and now with the eu election too. I wonder if here is any scots here, do you want to remain?

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Englands has went do Wally bop....vote that own Johnson in and you cant count the seconds till the SNP announce a referendum and the minutes till we are off.

England needs to take a right good look at itself before a great country and generally lovely people disappears into a black hole of 1950s _omanticism.

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

There were a million Scots that voted to leave the EU, that's more than the snp get.

Lets not take the 1.6 million remain votes in Scotland and assume that they will vote for independence, they will not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sturgeon is going to have talks with the eu for their membership in the eu "

Actually, it's nothing more than a public relations exercise.

She is not in a position to negotiate with the EU on the subject of membership of the union.

The EU only negotiate with the UK Government (i.e. the Member state).

Scotland is not a member of the EU in it's own right.

What I find hilarious is that in 2014, the SNP tried to get Independence for Scotland which would have pulled them out of the EU anyway.

Old fish face can piss and moan all she wants, whilst Scotland is part of the UK, it's membership of the EU is consistent with that of the rest of the UK.

She can whine and whine about wanting another Indyref, but can only hold one with the consent of Westminster.

If, and it's a big if, Scotland were to have a second referendum and IF it voted to leave the UK, the Scottish government would then need to make a formal application to join the EU.

Just ask the Turks how their attempts to join are going.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real problem is whenever the Tories get in......they only care about the rich and richer,basically if your 100 + miles north or further than london then your a 2nd class citizen.

Then there's who else to vote for? Corbyn is a joke,sturgeon is independence mad and a troublemaker who surely has had her time as she certainly doesn't represent the majority of Scotland's wishes which was remain in the u.k.In the last referendum in 2016 the scots voted to stay in the eu with 62/38 which is the majority and now with the eu election too. I wonder if here is any scots here, do you want to remain?"

I am scottish....we won't leave the uk.why leave the uk and join the eu.?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The real problem is whenever the Tories get in......they only care about the rich and richer,basically if your 100 + miles north or further than london then your a 2nd class citizen.

Then there's who else to vote for? Corbyn is a joke,sturgeon is independence mad and a troublemaker who surely has had her time as she certainly doesn't represent the majority of Scotland's wishes which was remain in the u.k.In the last referendum in 2016 the scots voted to stay in the eu with 62/38 which is the majority and now with the eu election too. I wonder if here is any scots here, do you want to remain?

I am scottish....we won't leave the uk.why leave the uk and join the eu.? "
No, no need to rejoin, just to continue to be in the eu

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"The real problem is whenever the Tories get in......they only care about the rich and richer,basically if your 100 + miles north or further than london then your a 2nd class citizen.

Then there's who else to vote for? Corbyn is a joke,sturgeon is independence mad and a troublemaker who surely has had her time as she certainly doesn't represent the majority of Scotland's wishes which was remain in the u.k.In the last referendum in 2016 the scots voted to stay in the eu with 62/38 which is the majority and now with the eu election too. I wonder if here is any scots here, do you want to remain?

I am scottish....we won't leave the uk.why leave the uk and join the eu.? No, no need to rejoin, just to continue to be in the eu "

That’s what I think mrs sturgeon would like, however I don’t think membership of the EU works like that, and unless they break their own rules, the E.U. would need Scotland to join using the normal process .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd rather I won the Euromillions but you don't always get what you want.

Sadly Brexit is almost the opposite for the vast majority of the country...

Except it isn't is it

Oh yeh, I forgot. Brexit is the land of milk and honey, unicorns on every street corner and cadburys buttons whenever you want them.

Ffs, there is Zero evidence of any benefit from leaving - no matter how hard you close your eyes and hope "

Zero evidence it will be bad , we haven't even left yet ( which should have happened)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have said it from the start, that staying in the eu is what scotland want

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"I have said it from the start, that staying in the eu is what scotland want "

Yes, and there are those in here who want out of Europe because they complain the Germans dominate, but are quite to a bit of domming themselves when it comes to the smaller union.

Hypocrites.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

* quite happy to do a bit of domming

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have said it from the start, that staying in the eu is what scotland want

Yes, and there are those in here who want out of Europe because they complain the Germans dominate, but are quite to a bit of domming themselves when it comes to the smaller union.

Hypocrites.

"
That is right

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Justice to Scotland and the Scottish citizens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so "
I hope so...but fear we won't

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Justice to Scotland and the Scottish citizens "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have said it from the start, that staying in the eu is what scotland want "

But Scotland is not a member in it's own right.

When the UK leaves, Scotland leaves - as it is the UK that is the member.

If Scotland were to vote for independence in a future referendum, they would be required to make their own application to join the EU - and accept all the terms that apply to a new member - including adopting the Euro.

If the UK had not voted to.leave and Scotland had voted for independence, they would have, by default, left the EU and would have had to apply for their own membership

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed as we knew this when the referendum was happening but the scaremongering from the government and press went into overdrive!! Since then it has been agreed it would be a smooth and happy alliance if scotland were indeed to become an independent country.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"The disintegration of the United Kingdom is the inexorable outcome of the Brexiteer logic."
More negative nonesense

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I have said it from the start, that staying in the eu is what scotland want

But Scotland is not a member in it's own right.

When the UK leaves, Scotland leaves - as it is the UK that is the member.

If Scotland were to vote for independence in a future referendum, they would be required to make their own application to join the EU - and accept all the terms that apply to a new member - including adopting the Euro.

If the UK had not voted to.leave and Scotland had voted for independence, they would have, by default, left the EU and would have had to apply for their own membership

"

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

How will Scotland go about constructing a hard border ?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Bricks and mortar

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Electric fence?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"The disintegration of the United Kingdom is the inexorable outcome of the Brexiteer logic.More negative nonesense"

Whoever said "taking back control" stopped at Westminster?

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Really pleased to see how Spain has shifted its position on Scotland since England voted to take the UK out of the EU.

The consul general in Edinburgh made this clear in a letter setting out the position of the Spanish Government."

Wrong,. . The UK decided to take the UK out of Europe. It was a national vote. . . Try twisting facts elsewhere

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Nothing twisted about it when you analyse the results.

The UK is leaving on the back of votes cast in England.

Scotland doesn't want it, NI doesn't want and neither does the indigenous population of Wales.

It is an English phenomenon principally.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Nothing twisted about it when you analyse the results.

The UK is leaving on the back of votes cast in England.

Scotland doesn't want it, NI doesn't want and neither does the indigenous population of Wales.

It is an English phenomenon principally.

"

Yes and no.

Analysis shows that Scotland only voted 41% to remain, Wales and NI 34% to remain.

This is going on a percentage of eligible voters.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"On the european election scotland send a clear message to the uk that they want to remain in the eu by a majority, how will this play out in the end, will scotland leave the uk to remain in the eu? I reckon so I hope so...but fear we won't"
Yes we can hope for the best

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Nothing twisted about it when you analyse the results.

The UK is leaving on the back of votes cast in England.

Scotland doesn't want it, NI doesn't want and neither does the indigenous population of Wales.

It is an English phenomenon principally.

Yes and no.

Analysis shows that Scotland only voted 41% to remain, Wales and NI 34% to remain.

This is going on a percentage of eligible voters. "

If you have a vote, and choose not to use it, it simply doesn't count. Either for, or against.

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By *icklybitMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Scottish and Northern Irish leave votes did count, when combined they were more than the eventual winning margin.

That aside, it was a UK vote.

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas


"Nothing twisted about it when you analyse the results.

The UK is leaving on the back of votes cast in England.

Scotland doesn't want it, NI doesn't want and neither does the indigenous population of Wales.

It is an English phenomenon principally.

"
. With the Conservative and Unionist Party being prepared to implement a border down Thw Irish Sea , The Referendum result is Little England defeating Great Britain

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