FabSwingers.com forum: The British Army's Neo-Nazi checklist

By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Do you know anyone wo:

* Talks about patriots

* Labels opponents as traitors

* Thinks political correctness is a left-wing or communist plot

* Claims immigration is the cause of injustices among vulnerable groups

* Adds "-istan" to British place names

* Makes generalisations about Muslims and Jews

* Use blatantly untrue references to immigrants, Judaism and Islam

Look out for these people, says a leaflet issued to soldiers by the British Army, these are indicators and warnings of Extreme Right Wing (XRW) who should be reported to the Army , Warning Advisory and Reporting Point.

The Army has confirmed the leaflet is genuine.

Thumbs up to the British Army.

I've seen a few posts on here that trigger those warning bells.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Yes a few on here but many have a very bad habit of jumping to conclusions with nothing really to back it up.They are not really capable of rational discussion and they think they are clever,really just showing they are thick which amuses me and annoys me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Embarrassing really considering our ancestors pre 1980 would all be considered Right Wing Extremists by today's standards.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Embarrassing really considering our ancestors pre 1980 would all be considered Right Wing Extremists by today's standards.

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Proves my point I am pre 1980

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They hand out these leaflets to british soldiers?... even the ones fighting illegal wars in the middle east? I'm not sure of statistics or anything but i'm reasonably sure that the people who may or may not use the sort of language outlined in this pamflet have never fired a shot in anger at anyone of any skin colour, religion or whatever else.... neo nazis eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Embarrassing really considering our ancestors pre 1980 would all be considered Right Wing Extremists by today's standards.

Our culture like all is malleable. You chance with it, or society opts to isolate you.

Also really? Everything on that list was accepted 20 years ago? I'm not sure which circles you floated in?

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

So patrotism is tantamount to fascism, if not Nazism now?

Perhaps we should tell every other country in the fucking world, who dont have a problem with patriotism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Embarrassing really considering our ancestors pre 1980 would all be considered Right Wing Extremists by today's standards.

Our culture like all is malleable. You chance with it, or society opts to isolate you.

Also really? Everything on that list was accepted 20 years ago? I'm not sure which circles you floated in?"

Working class northern circles. And who said everything on that list was acceptable 20 years ago?

20 years ago Political correctness was unheard of, patriotism was the reason my Great Grandad joined his friends to fight the Germans and his dad before him.

Bore off with your virtue signalling bollocks.

The point remains: White men, sorry "Right Wing Extremists" built the modern world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you know anyone wo:

* Talks about patriots

* Labels opponents as traitors

* Thinks political correctness is a left-wing or communist plot

* Claims immigration is the cause of injustices among vulnerable groups

* Adds "-istan" to British place names

* Makes generalisations about Muslims and Jews

* Use blatantly untrue references to immigrants, Judaism and Islam

The Army has confirmed the leaflet is genuine.

Thumbs up to the British Army.

I've seen a few posts on here that trigger those warning bells.

Is this the same British Army that recently had an incident where soldiers put up a picture of Jeremy Corbyn at the end of a live firing range, and used his face (image) as target practice?

Or is naming a British place with "istan" on the end by a member of the public considered to be more extreme than that?

I think a sense of context and perspective needs to be used in many of these things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you know anyone wo:

* Talks about patriots

* Labels opponents as traitors

* Thinks political correctness is a left-wing or communist plot

* Claims immigration is the cause of injustices among vulnerable groups

* Adds "-istan" to British place names

* Makes generalisations about Muslims and Jews

* Use blatantly untrue references to immigrants, Judaism and Islam

The Army has confirmed the leaflet is genuine.

Thumbs up to the British Army.

I've seen a few posts on here that trigger those warning bells.

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It is difficult to ascertain if this leaflet could be genuine.

Patriots exist all over the world . I am sure that many ex soldiers who march on remembrance day consider themselves to be patriotic and a significant member ( based on the law of averages ) are more likely to be left wing than right wing.

Based on this description of patriots the leaflet can safely be consigned to the dustbin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Based on the OP's bullet points, i'm wondering if i should report the Labour MP Jess Philips to the British Army? Philips recently made generalisations about Muslims who were protesting about LBGT lessons being taught to their kids in Birmingham schools.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The point remains: White men, sorry "Right Wing Extremists" built the modern world.

Yeah they did, off the back of slavery, exploitation and cruelty, what's your damn point apart from looking like a fucking idiot here?

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By *ikerP1000Man
over a year ago

Durham

Being in some medieval shithole of a country for 6 months or so knowing that every fucker wants to cut your head off tends to colour your judgement of its inhabitants....,,and their friends.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Being in some medieval shithole of a country for 6 months or so knowing that every fucker wants to cut your head off tends to colour your judgement of its inhabitants....,,and their friends."

Training must be poor these days then. My peers are all very well balanced thank you very much (1980’s era)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Awww did I touch a nerve?

You can't blame Whitey for being better at the game...

Nice to see you wear that Racism, sorry, "patriotism" on your sleeves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Being in some medieval shithole of a country for 6 months or so knowing that every fucker wants to cut your head off tends to colour your judgement of its inhabitants....,,and their friends."

Don't sugar coat it

But knowing a fair few former squaddies with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan that's the case even long after they've returned to civvie street. I guess they're RWEs now

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By *ikerP1000Man
over a year ago

Durham

And by the way ...., I just noticed the word ‘slavery’ used ..... the largest slaving organisation the world has ever seen were known as the ‘Barbery slavers’. They were predominantly muslim and operated throughout the mediterranean and throughout north africa. They traded with ‘western’ organisations such as UK and US to provide the manpower for the cotton fields, farms etc of the new found Americas. Sadly, their trade continues to this day in the form of people trafficking and slavery.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Awww did I touch a nerve?

You can't blame Whitey for being better at the game...

Nice to see you wear that Racism, sorry, "patriotism" on your sleeves.

I'm no Patriot, this country isn't worth dying for. Racist? I'd like to think its just realism. There's a reason why "White Supremacy" must be destroyed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And by the way ...., I just noticed the word ‘slavery’ used ..... the largest slaving organisation the world has ever seen were known as the ‘Barbery slavers’. They were predominantly muslim and operated throughout the mediterranean and throughout north africa. They traded with ‘western’ organisations such as UK and US to provide the manpower for the cotton fields, farms etc of the new found Americas. Sadly, their trade continues to this day in the form of people trafficking and slavery."

They don't like the truth here you know!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Racist? I'd like to think its just realism. There's a reason why "White Supremacy" must be destroyed.

So you're in favour of White Supremacy or actually think it's being wrongfully targeted? Go on, you may as well speak up now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Racist? I'd like to think its just realism. There's a reason why "White Supremacy" must be destroyed.

So you're in favour of White Supremacy or actually think it's being wrongfully targeted? Go on, you may as well speak up now. "

White Supremacy is simply an excuse used by those on the Left to keep minorities in a constant state of victimhood otherwise the identity politics which the Left needs wouldn't work.

For instance Asians and Jews in the USA for example typically score higher on average in IQ tests, earn more money on average and attend the top schools.

Now if "White Supremacy" was real how on earth would this happen? It wouldn't unless you're going to come up with some bollocks.

You never hear how Jewish Supremacy or Japanese Supremacy should be destroyed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You never hear how Jewish Supremacy or Japanese Supremacy should be destroyed.

Yeah, considering you're not even using the usual Patriotism spew, you just look like an idiot, a shame since you two look nice but whichever one of you is talking right now really needs to get clued up on things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you know anyone wo:

* Talks about patriots

* Labels opponents as traitors

* Thinks political correctness is a left-wing or communist plot

* Claims immigration is the cause of injustices among vulnerable groups

* Adds "-istan" to British place names

* Makes generalisations about Muslims and Jews

* Use blatantly untrue references to immigrants, Judaism and Islam

The Army has confirmed the leaflet is genuine.

Thumbs up to the British Army.

I've seen a few posts on here that trigger those warning bells.

So now the army are going to judge people by their words, not their actions. Further proof that freedom of speech is just a fantasy here. Of course we are free to say anything we like, just as long as it’s not blah blah blah.

We need tough soldiers, they are being sent overseas to fight people who are fanatics, but who are not a threat to us.

They go to war against what is mostly Muslims, but even though see their comrades either shot, hit by rpms or blown to bits by land mines, they mustn’t say anything insulting about them.

Who in their right mind would want to join up now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you know anyone wo:

* Talks about patriots

* Labels opponents as traitors

* Thinks political correctness is a left-wing or communist plot

* Claims immigration is the cause of injustices among vulnerable groups

* Adds "-istan" to British place names

* Makes generalisations about Muslims and Jews

* Use blatantly untrue references to immigrants, Judaism and Islam

The Army has confirmed the leaflet is genuine.

Thumbs up to the British Army.

I've seen a few posts on here that trigger those warning bells.

We need tough soldiers, they are being sent overseas to fight people who are fanatics, but who are not a threat to us.

They go to war against what is mostly Muslims, but even though see their comrades either shot, hit by rpms or blown to bits by land mines, they mustn’t say anything insulting about them.

Who in their right mind would want to join up now?"

*rpgs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So now the army are going to judge people by their words, not their actions. Further proof that freedom of speech is just a fantasy here. Of course we are free to say anything we like, just as long as it’s not blah blah blah.

Oh god this bullshit again from the old racist, you DO have freedom of speech, notice how you can say your tripe here without being penalised? That's freedom, but other people other than yourself also have that freedom and can use that freedom to call out your dumb views, notice how you and another here already turned it on Muslims when that's not even the point of it, but oh no clearly it's those with the problem. Fuck sake mate, for a bloke who likes to call people "remoaners", etc, you sure half don't bloody constantly bitch and moan.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"They hand out these leaflets to british soldiers?... even the ones fighting illegal wars in the middle east? I'm not sure of statistics or anything but i'm reasonably sure that the people who may or may not use the sort of language outlined in this pamflet have never fired a shot in anger at anyone of any skin colour, religion or whatever else.... neo nazis eh? "

Quite a few cases lately of soldiers engaged in extremist behaviour.

This is the Army trying to flush the poison from the barracks.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

It is difficult to ascertain if this leaflet could be genuine.

The Army confirmed it was genuine to the Metro newspaper, which published the full leaflet.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"The point remains: White men, sorry "Right Wing Extremists" built the modern world.

Yeah they did, off the back of slavery, exploitation and cruelty, what's your damn point apart from looking like a fucking idiot here?

Awww did I touch a nerve?

You can't blame Whitey for being better at the game...

The kinda attitude that AWARP and Army Intell are trying to spot and root out to stop it poisoning the barracks.

You are a fit for XRW.

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By *annyboy2Man
over a year ago

stuttgart

"Do you know anyone wo:

* Talks about patriots

* Labels opponents as traitors

* Thinks political correctness is a left-wing or communist plot

* Claims immigration is the cause of injustices among vulnerable groups

* Adds "-istan" to British place names

* Makes generalisations about Muslims and Jews

* Use blatantly untrue references to immigrants, Judaism and Islam

The Army has confirmed the leaflet is genuine.

Thumbs up to the British Army.

I've seen a few posts on here that trigger those warning bells.

Is this the same British Army that recently had an incident where soldiers put up a picture of Jeremy Corbyn at the end of a live firing range, and used his face (image) as target practice?

Or is naming a British place with "istan" on the end by a member of the public considered to be more extreme than that?

I think a sense of context and perspective needs to be used in many of these things. "

It wasn't a live firing range

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

'Talks about Patriots'

Is it not patriotic to serve one's country. To swear allegiance to Queen and Country. Is that not patriotic to defend your nation against tyranny and keep it safe? Are members of the armed forces not patriotic servants of the state who do the government's bidding at time of war?

If your not a patriot, then the whole concept of being in the armed services doesn't work in times of war and conflict.

I would also think that all those people that line streets during a royal event and wave British flags are Patriots, showing their patriotism for Queen and Country. Is it not patriotic to sing the national anthem at sporting events? Are the very people at those sporting events Patriots? They must be for showing their allegiance to their team, be it a national team or their home team.

I really wouldn't want to join the armed services now if they have a problem with being a patriot or patriotic for your country, defeats the object of even pulling on a uniform with your national insignia on the sleeve or shoulder.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I would suggest you look at the whole leaflet, rather than extract one sound-byte and distort it.

We are talking about the kind of yob who boasts they are a patriot, who asserts the supremacy of their skin colour, who is in effect waging a war inside their tiny skull against whatever minority happens to press their mental hate trigger.

All the official evidence shows there is a growing problem with right-wing extremism in the UK.

It is catching up with Islamic extremism.

On several occasions lately, soldiers have been implicated in terror plots.

So the Army recognises it has a problem - it does not want to become a breeding ground for extremism and terrorism.

People like that have no place in an organisation which, by definition, must be rooted in British values.

Those values do not include spreading hate and poison about people you may be serving alongside in a conflict.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The point remains: White men, sorry "Right Wing Extremists" built the modern world.

Yeah they did, off the back of slavery, exploitation and cruelty, what's your damn point apart from looking like a fucking idiot here?

Awww did I touch a nerve?

You can't blame Whitey for being better at the game...

The kinda attitude that AWARP and Army Intell are trying to spot and root out to stop it poisoning the barracks.

You are a fit for XRW."

Cool. I love labels

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

There has always been a problem with racism and bigotry in the army. The army knows this, in fact some regiments have a history of overt racism (think banning all coloured personnel from the Guards Regiments until the late 70's, and the number of Guardsmen dismissed the service for being members of the National Front in the 70's). This is not surprising because military training and access to military weapons is very attractive to those who hold extreme nationalist and political beliefs.

I am sort of surprised that the MoD have acknowledged that they have issued an advisory leaflet to troops, in my time such instructions would have been issued via DCI's, UKLFO's or Unit Orders which were 'restricted' publications for military consumption only.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

As someone who has actually worn the uniform and served I don't see the issue with any public body wanting to send out a message that extremism of whatever kind is or acceptable..

When it gets down to people (and certain people have in the past been very lacking in their condemnation for the extremists of the right) ignoring the basics that extremism whomever the source is not wanted nor acceptable then we have an issue in society..

And we should not be critical that the powers that be are directing attention at it, we wouldn't well certainly the majority wouldn't object to the same powers that be protecting our children, elderly and or the vulnerable would we?

Some fucking moron who thinks it's OK to attack others of whatever colour, religion etc for whatever reason they think validates that action is surely not a decent member of that society and the vast majority of this country rightly know this..

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"As someone who has actually worn the uniform and served I don't see the issue with any public body wanting to send out a message that extremism of whatever kind is or acceptable..

Agreed, I am just surprised that the MoD and Joint Chiefs have confirmed the existence of the leaflet. In my day it was an open secret how racist the Guards were and that if you were dark skinned going into the army you really needed to join the Royal Green Jackets (think I have the right regiment) or one of the corps, because nearly everywhere else you would be discriminated against because of your skin colour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I absolutely fucking hate this justification of racism by some of the posters on here in the name of realism. I have had family in the forces for five generations and the ones I knew who fought in the second world war, iraq, afghan all came from the West Country and are neither racist nor pro-brexit. They all were professionals while in the forces and viewed their time in the services as an honourable and patriotic thing to do and they resent the flabby arsed flag wavers who claim to speak in their name. There have always been a sub group in the forces who want to wage an angry war and they still exist but the army are now openly condemning it rather than putting up with it. As for Pc, I remember going to rock against racism gigs when I was at school and as a working class boy, I can read what the undercurrent here is and many others can too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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Absolutely and this includes left wing extremists and climate extremists.

It's just a shame the left wing won't condemn there own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's just a shame the left wing won't condemn there own."

They do, you're just using selective reasoning. Ironically it's a tactic used by the right on social media to track down dirt on big left wing names and reveal it so they'd face harsh actions, remember the James Gunn situation?

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By *emper-fudgeMan
over a year ago

Blackrock

While i believe thete are idiots on bith sides ...This will only dictate career minded soldiers public positions , not private ones.There are already recourses for discrimination/bullying within the military, this seems like an excercise in posterity for the seniour brass looking to score political points to further careers.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"As someone who has actually worn the uniform and served I don't see the issue with any public body wanting to send out a message that extremism of whatever kind is or acceptable..

Probably more so that nowadays such things are commonly acknowledged, whereas before there was a myth believed by the higher echelons that the military was above such things..

Which as you rightly point out was never the case and yes fully agree with your recollection of how it was..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Absolutely and this includes left wing extremists and climate extremists.

It's just a shame the left wing won't condemn there own."

Sorry but that's not accurate, yes there will be some on all sides that will never condemn their own but it's not true to say that the left won't condemn their own..

It's as equally wrong to say all on the right or all of one faith won't..

There have been numerous threads on here over the years and my perception is that there are a minority who struggle to fully condemn the far right and will look for any excuse such as mental health etc..

I have yet to see anyone of the left/centre left not condemn all extremism..

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

This thread makes me want to vomit as so many of you have sick wharped minds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread makes me want to vomit as so many of you have sick wharped minds."

Can you be more specific?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"This thread makes me want to vomit as so many of you have sick wharped minds."

Care to clarify, else it just looks like a random rant..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe I'm missing the point.... But the leaflet isn't saying if you tick one box you are an extremist... But the more boxes you tick the more likely it is you could be an extremist.

If I'm correct in my understanding there seem to be a lot of people being overly sensitive to a position that isn't there. And i suspect many of those people call others snowflakes....

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

That's right. It's an identikit.

I imagine the Army has a whole unit of specialists dedicated to analysis and characterisation of enemy behaviour.

It will have profiled those characters who have been identified as extremists previously and come up with this ready-reckoner to help squaddies know the tell-tale signs to look for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's just a shame the left wing won't condemn there own.

You mean like the leftists did with sir Roger scruton? Or like the leftists did with Peter boghassians satirical dissing of modern leftist gender claptrap.

There are extremists on both sides of the political divide.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I am not aware the Army has a problem with left-wing extremists. There is evidence it has a problem with right-wing extremists - recent court cases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am not aware the Army has a problem with left-wing extremists. There is evidence it has a problem with right-wing extremists - recent court cases.

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That's because the far left hate the armed services, countries, borders and security.

Where as the far right don't so there much more likely to join it.

It's like saying you don't find many of the far right infiltrating gender studies in universities, that's the preserve of the far left.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However you never see leaflets handed out in universities looking for suspected far left extremists trying to infiltrate.

Probably because they've already taken it over like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You mean like the leftists did with sir Roger scruton? Or like the leftists did with Peter boghassians satirical dissing of modern leftist gender claptrap.

There are extremists on both sides of the political divide."

No I don't mean that, I mean the right using the lefts quick action to dismiss a person by finding said dirt and making it public so the left goes against the person who is "on their side".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"However you never see leaflets handed out in universities looking for suspected far left extremists trying to infiltrate.

Probably because they've already taken it over like

Has there been recent examples of left extremist students being prosecuted? This seems to be the army reacting to an highlighted problem which has bit them rather than being proactive....

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"I am not aware the Army has a problem with left-wing extremists. There is evidence it has a problem with right-wing extremists - recent court cases.

The Army has always had problems with violent extremists (of all types). After all if your wet dream is to be able to kill all those you consider to be the 'enemy' well where better to get paid while learning how to kill...

In the 70's and 80's the main threat was training NI extremists (of both sides), no doubt today it is Islamic fundamentalist and right wing nationalist extremists. The groups and causes change over time but the basic problem remains the same, and the armed forces have been aware of and combating it for at least the last 40 odd years to my knowledge. Unfortunately the problem is like canal water, constantly changing but changeless.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"I am not aware the Army has a problem with left-wing extremists. There is evidence it has a problem with right-wing extremists - recent court cases.

That's because the far left hate the armed services, countries, borders and security.

Where as the far right don't so there much more likely to join it.

It's like saying you don't find many of the far right infiltrating gender studies in universities, that's the preserve of the far left."

So the far left extremists...talk critically about gender at universities.

Wow, truly scary stuff!

The most extreme act by the left in this country in the last few years has been throwing milkshakes.

By the right it was murdering an MP.

Truly, both sides are as bad as each other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You mean like the leftists did with sir Roger scruton? Or like the leftists did with Peter boghassians satirical dissing of modern leftist gender claptrap.

There are extremists on both sides of the political divide.

No I don't mean that, I mean the right using the lefts quick action to dismiss a person by finding said dirt and making it public so the left goes against the person who is "on their side"."
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It seems the large majority of people in this country are being pulled apart by the tiny minority on both sides.

I voted labour under Blair and Cameron under the Tories, I'm a centrist reluctant remainer who believes in democracy, law and order and freedom.

Sadly not enough of us left.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Plenty, judging by the opinion poll out today topped by the Liberal Democrats.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

They don't like the truth here you know!

..but that doesn't dispute the fact that the British empire also prospered through slavery

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I am not aware the Army has a problem with left-wing extremists. There is evidence it has a problem with right-wing extremists - recent court cases.

That's because the far left hate the armed services, countries, borders and security.

Where as the far right don't so there much more likely to join it.

It's like saying you don't find many of the far right infiltrating gender studies in universities, that's the preserve of the far left.

So the far left extremists...talk critically about gender at universities.

Wow, truly scary stuff!

The most extreme act by the left in this country in the last few years has been throwing milkshakes.

By the right it was murdering an MP.

Truly, both sides are as bad as each other

In a way, it's a good illusion of how Europe hasn't seen any far left extremists for a good long time.

If the height of the communist threat is some liberal university lecturer talking about gender rights, then there's probably no real threat from the left, is there?

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over a year ago

They don't like the truth here you know!

..but that doesn't dispute the fact that the British empire also prospered through slavery"

Meaningless. You can't blame a people for being better at something that every group through out history has done while at the same time excusing the exact behaviour of others.

And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

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They don't like the truth here you know!

..but that doesn't dispute the fact that the British empire also prospered through slavery

Meaningless. You can't blame a people for being better at something that every group through out history has done while at the same time excusing the exact behaviour of others.

And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do.

Imagine being descended from slaves and having a problem with slavery.

Political correctness gone mad, innit?

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over a year ago

They don't like the truth here you know!

..but that doesn't dispute the fact that the British empire also prospered through slavery

Meaningless. You can't blame a people for being better at something that every group through out history has done while at the same time excusing the exact behaviour of others.

And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do.

Wow, do you seriously believe that?

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over a year ago

Imagine being descended from slaves and having a problem with slavery.

Political correctness gone mad, innit? "

Imagine having such a pea brain that you jump to emotionally charged response.

Where did I say people who are descended from slavery can't have a problem with slavery?

I didn't.

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over a year ago

Imagine being descended from slaves and having a problem with slavery.

Political correctness gone mad, innit?

Imagine having such a pea brain that you jump to emotionally charged response.

Where did I say people who are descended from slavery can't have a problem with slavery?

I didn't.

According to your logic we are all descended from slaves?? Correct??

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Imagine being descended from slaves and having a problem with slavery.

Political correctness gone mad, innit?

Imagine having such a pea brain that you jump to emotionally charged response.

Where did I say people who are descended from slavery can't have a problem with slavery?

I didn't.

Triggered again, I see.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

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over a year ago

Wow, do you seriously believe that?

Do I seriously believe what? We shouldn't punish the son for his fathers sins? Of course.

You can't demonize a group based on their ancestors actions in a world which is so alien from ours.

Every group of people since the dawn of man practiced slavery, waged war and created empires.

You cannot attribute these traits to one group while allowing others a get out of jail free card simply because they weren't capable of reaching the heights we did.

The diverse nature of Europe gave us an advantage.

Yes acknowledge the the injustices but you can't continually use those as an excuse for others failings.

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over a year ago

Wow, do you seriously believe that?

Do I seriously believe what? We shouldn't punish the son for his fathers sins? Of course.

You can't demonize a group based on their ancestors actions in a world which is so alien from ours.

Every group of people since the dawn of man practiced slavery, waged war and created empires.

You cannot attribute these traits to one group while allowing others a get out of jail free card simply because they weren't capable of reaching the heights we did.

The diverse nature of Europe gave us an advantage.

Yes acknowledge the the injustices but you can't continually use those as an excuse for others failings. "

Your suggesting ‘white supremacy’ doesn’t exist, there was black slaves in America 150 years ago controlled by whites. There was segregation in America until the 1960s, apartheid in South Africa until the 1990s. Can you give me any recent examples of white slavery?

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over a year ago

Wow, do you seriously believe that?

Do I seriously believe what? We shouldn't punish the son for his fathers sins? Of course.

You can't demonize a group based on their ancestors actions in a world which is so alien from ours.

Every group of people since the dawn of man practiced slavery, waged war and created empires.

You cannot attribute these traits to one group while allowing others a get out of jail free card simply because they weren't capable of reaching the heights we did.

The diverse nature of Europe gave us an advantage.

Yes acknowledge the the injustices but you can't continually use those as an excuse for others failings. "

Can you confirm what you mean by others failing?

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over a year ago

Wow, do you seriously believe that?

Do I seriously believe what? We shouldn't punish the son for his fathers sins? Of course.

You can't demonize a group based on their ancestors actions in a world which is so alien from ours.

Every group of people since the dawn of man practiced slavery, waged war and created empires.

You cannot attribute these traits to one group while allowing others a get out of jail free card simply because they weren't capable of reaching the heights we did.

The diverse nature of Europe gave us an advantage.

Yes acknowledge the the injustices but you can't continually use those as an excuse for others failings.

You do realise slavery and human trafficking in pretty big in Eastern Europe?

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over a year ago

Can you confirm what you mean by others failing? "

European dominance since the industrial revolution is historical fact. Apart from China and Japan there's been no real competition until recently from any other group of people.

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over a year ago

Wow, do you seriously believe that?

Do I seriously believe what? We shouldn't punish the son for his fathers sins? Of course.

You can't demonize a group based on their ancestors actions in a world which is so alien from ours.

Every group of people since the dawn of man practiced slavery, waged war and created empires.

You cannot attribute these traits to one group while allowing others a get out of jail free card simply because they weren't capable of reaching the heights we did.

The diverse nature of Europe gave us an advantage.

Yes acknowledge the the injustices but you can't continually use those as an excuse for others failings.

You do realise slavery and human trafficking in pretty big in Eastern Europe?

‘Pretty big’ , is that the best you can come up with? And the vast majority are trafficked by white gangs ? Try again

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over a year ago

"And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do. "

You are soo far off the mark it's beyond hilarious and delved into sadness, is THAT what you think White Supremacy is? Be serious here, do you think what you're saying is the White Supremacy people are going after?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

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"And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do.

They are poor victims of those nasty liberals and ethnics and should be protected.

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over a year ago

Can you give me any recent examples of white slavery?

I gave you an example, a real example of modern day slavery that is effecting Whites amongst others.

Try again.

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over a year ago

"And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do.

Explain to me what you think White Supremacy is? And I will try and answer. White supremacy is a racial theory in which the belief was that the White race is superior to every other race.

I don't believe that to be true in the slightest.

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over a year ago

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Trump is coming to the UK to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, yeah.

Did you know the US forces that day were segregated by race - black people had their own division.

The irony - the forces of "freedom" taking on the world's greatest white supremacist with an army segregated by race.

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over a year ago

"Trump is coming to the UK to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, yeah.

Did you know the US forces that day were segregated by race - black people had their own division.

The irony - the forces of "freedom" taking on the world's greatest white supremacist with an army segregated by race.

Another classic "chip-on-my-shoulder" outburst from you....?!

Correction, it is the U.S. PRESIDENT who shall be attending for the D-day anniversary celebrations, ya know..., the democratically elected person...

Isn't that something to do with WW2...?

Freedom and democracy...??!!

Oh.... and we have come a LONG way since 1945, so, why would anyone have reason to quote "the irony" of how things were over SEVENTY years ago?

You really do drag up some bilge, tha' knows, were you once bullied, I wonder??!!

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over a year ago

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"This thread makes me want to vomit as so many of you have sick wharped minds.

Can you be more specific?

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Yes will do so tomorrow,but basically it is that people sem t thing people are right wing if they think differently to them or visa versa and it is more complex than that

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over a year ago

"Trump is coming to the UK to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, yeah.

Did you know the US forces that day were segregated by race - black people had their own division.

The irony - the forces of "freedom" taking on the world's greatest white supremacist with an army segregated by race.

Another classic "chip-on-my-shoulder" outburst from you....?!

Correction, it is the U.S. PRESIDENT who shall be attending for the D-day anniversary celebrations, ya know..., the democratically elected person...

Isn't that something to do with WW2...?

Freedom and democracy...??!!

Oh.... and we have come a LONG way since 1945, so, why would anyone have reason to quote "the irony" of how things were over SEVENTY years ago?

You really do drag up some bilge, tha' knows, were you once bullied, I wonder??!!

He is a bit of a ginger knob though isnt he - oh and he is up for impeachment when his term is up so a bit crook too!

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over a year ago

"And that is exactly what those who seek to destroy "White Supremacy" do.

Explain to me what you think White Supremacy is? And I will try and answer. White supremacy is a racial theory in which the belief was that the White race is superior to every other race.

I don't believe that to be true in the slightest. "

So Hitler and the Nazi party didn’t exist it was all just a theory created by the far left??

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over a year ago

"This thread makes me want to vomit as so many of you have sick wharped minds.

Can you be more specific?

Yes will do so tomorrow,but basically it is that people sem t thing people are right wing if they think differently to them or visa versa and it is more complex than that"

Your still being vague, why don’t you tell us what you really think??

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Trump is coming to the UK to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, yeah.

Did you know the US forces that day were segregated by race - black people had their own division.

The irony - the forces of "freedom" taking on the world's greatest white supremacist with an army segregated by race.

Another classic "chip-on-my-shoulder" outburst from you....?!

Correction, it is the U.S. PRESIDENT who shall be attending for the D-day anniversary celebrations, ya know..., the democratically elected person...

Isn't that something to do with WW2...?

Freedom and democracy...??!!

Oh.... and we have come a LONG way since 1945, so, why would anyone have reason to quote "the irony" of how things were over SEVENTY years ago?

You really do drag up some bilge, tha' knows, were you once bullied, I wonder??!!

What, Trump is not the US president?

Well I never.

If we have come such a long way from 75 years ago, why are reliving it all again next week.

Or is it only the version of events you've watched in the cinema that you want to relive?

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over a year ago

So Hitler and the Nazi party didn’t exist it was all just a theory created by the far left??

Jesus fucking christ. The notion that White Supremacy is something that should be dismantled and destroyed in "White" nations is nothing more than an "us vs them" tactic employed by the hard left as a way to ensure that minority groups embrace identity politics.

I'm not saying that White Supremacy has never existed, what I'm saying is that no nation today upholds White Supremacy as political ideology.

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over a year ago

Can you give me any recent examples of white slavery?

I gave you an example, a real example of modern day slavery that is effecting Whites amongst others.

Try again.

You didn’t, the people profiteering from these ‘slaves’ are also white. Give me an example where white people are being used as slaves by different ethnic groups.

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over a year ago

So Hitler and the Nazi party didn’t exist it was all just a theory created by the far left??

I'm not saying that White Supremacy has never existed, what I'm saying is that no nation today upholds White Supremacy as political ideology.

Why do you keep changing your opinion when you can’t answer a question? You said that white supremacy is a ‘theory’ created by the far left?

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over a year ago

Why do you keep changing your opinion when you can’t answer a question? You said that white supremacy is a ‘theory’ created by the far left? "

You've moved the goal posts regarding the slavery question. Surprise, surprise.

Also I never said White Supremacy was a theory created by the Left.

Learn to read. FFS

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over a year ago

Why do you keep changing your opinion when you can’t answer a question? You said that white supremacy is a ‘theory’ created by the far left?

You've moved the goal posts regarding the slavery question. Surprise, surprise.

Also I never said White Supremacy was a theory created by the Left.

Learn to read. FFS"

I can read and it is obvious what you are saying. You are trying to justify slavery by stating everyone else did it but ‘Whitey’ was better at it. You are trying to dismiss white supremacy as being a far left ‘theory’ . We can all see what type of person you are

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over a year ago

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You poor little man...

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over a year ago

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

You poor little man...

Your reply says it all, you can’t deny or even try and justify your views. We can all see what you are ? With education and an open mind I hope you eventually realise how deluded you are

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over a year ago

Your reply says it all, you can’t deny or even try and justify your views. We can all see what you are ? With education and an open mind I hope you eventually realise how deluded you are

Who's this mysterious "We" and why should I care what they think if you're the calibre of who "We" are?

Seriously, I know who I am. My views, my politics, my friends and circle. But who are you? A nobody, with nothing to say other than what everyone else in this mysterious "We" says and thinks.

It's easy to tell that just like a few others on here you lack any original thought and parrot the same nonsense but in a different way.

Slavery bad, racism bad, White Supremacy bad. White man bad.

It hurts your little brain when someone who doesn't think like you comes along. You recoil in fear and run along with the herd in hope that you wont be exposed for the charlatan you are.

Weak willed and easily lead. This "We" is everything to you...fitting into a group which doesn't matter because when all is said and done you lack the ability to stand up for what you believe in without it.

You asked for an example of slavery effecting Whites today, I gave you one. When I did this you then moved the goal posts and asked for a modern day example of Whites being enslaved by another ethnic group.

You came up with this idea that I have some how said that White White Supremacy was a theory created by the Left? This is also not true. I actually gave the definition of White Supremacy further up in this thread. I know the political ideology and its roots in scientific racism.

But yet you still can't seem to grasp what I have said even though I've explained my position twice.

Give me an example of a nation or a government which continues to follow the political ideology that is White Supremacy in 2019.

Pro tip, you can't