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Remain means remain, leave does not mean leave.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I just want to make a point of the difference between that remain means remain whilst leave does not mean mean leave, whats your view?

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"I just want to make a point of the difference between that remain means remain whilst leave does not mean mean leave, whats your view? "

My view is you need to buy a dictionary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My view is; yawn

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I just want to make a point of the difference between that remain means remain whilst leave does not mean mean leave, whats your view?

My view is you need to buy a dictionary."
No, britain will always be in the eu in some way as brexit wont be delivered.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"I just want to make a point of the difference between that remain means remain whilst leave does not mean mean leave, whats your view?

My view is you need to buy a dictionary.No, britain will always be in the eu in some way as brexit wont be delivered."

Unless you have a crystal ball, you cant know for certain.

Currently, I don't have a clue how it will go, although the noises being made on both sides seem to indicate a "fudge" deal between May and Corbyn will not get through Parliament, which possibly means, if the EU don't extend again, that we might go out with "No Deal".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen. "
That is right they wont leave, as they are looking for a deal they will never leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May keeps trying to force Corbyn to agree to her deal and keeps blaming him for not accepting it.

Why would he?

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Oakhill

Off is off. On is on. Off could be on, and on could off. If you think off could be on. Or you could think on could be off. So what do you do, if you do not know that off is off, or on is on. Open the fridge door and have a look.

The fridge door closes, did the light go out. !!!

Oh fuck, this is Brexit. back to where I started.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Off is off. On is on. Off could be on, and on could off. If you think off could be on. Or you could think on could be off. So what do you do, if you do not know that off is off, or on is on. Open the fridge door and have a look.

The fridge door closes, did the light go out. !!!

Oh fuck, this is Brexit. back to where I started."
Yes, nothing have happened under the 3 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen. "

Just because you have certain ties to something does not mean you are a member. You may trade and participate in some areas but that falls well short of being in the Club as a member.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just want to make a point of the difference between that remain means remain whilst leave does not mean mean leave, whats your view?

My view is you need to buy a dictionary.No, britain will always be in the eu in some way as brexit wont be delivered."

We will end up with all the benefits we had before the referendum but without any say in our future.We shall name this brexit.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen. "

You seem to suffer from the same affliction that Mark Francois suffers from. That somehow you think that the bill to withdraw us from the EU... you know that one that says we'd no longer be a member after we leave... somehow means we haven't left the EU. Very strange.

-Matt

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen. "

The idea that one country in Europe should have no links to any other . . . Well, that just seems bizarre.

Even North Korea has arrangements with its neighbours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trouble is no one really defined what is meant by being in the EU. So no one really knows what leaving really entails.

In many ways no deal is the right definition. But the leave campaign was based on leave+.

So a second referendum of no deal versus is probably how the first one should have been fought. With questions like the irish border, our own approach to tariffs, and the like being discussed.

The only difference is we have a bit more evidence on how the EU won't just fold. And how BMW won't put pressure on the Germans.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"... if the EU don't extend again, that we might go out with "No Deal"."

It has been legislated that no-deal has been taken off the table by process of (as necessary) extension. Stemming from the Cooper-Letwin motions/bills, then onto the Lords who passed it, then back to Parliament who acceded it.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"... if the EU don't extend again, that we might go out with "No Deal".

It has been legislated that no-deal has been taken off the table by process of (as necessary) extension. Stemming from the Cooper-Letwin motions/bills, then onto the Lords who passed it, then back to Parliament who acceded it. "

parliment have taken no deal away the e.u have not so if parliment dont soet shit out theres nothing stopping the e.u to tell us to fuck off.im sure they dont wants loads of brexit m.e.p.s taking there seats

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Trouble is no one really defined what is meant by being in the EU. So no one really knows what leaving really entails.

"

Well, technically leaving the EU is very well defined. It is very easy to say "is a country in the EU or not". The problem is what was not defined was what our future relationship with the EU (and Europe in general) would then be if we left.

This is the problem. May's deal fulfils the mandate from the referendum. It gets us out of the EU. Period. That is it. Simple. Anyone who claims it doesn't is simply lying.

Anyone who things that May's deal is not what *they* wanted or meant for Brexit then I hope they were marching in London for a vote on what brexit they wanted and not just gone with "Brexit means Brexit".

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen. "

Yes, because that quite literally means fucking ourselves over.

It means not being able to import chemicals and treatments for chemotherapy and cancers smoothly.

It means the NHS paying more for them.

Or the taxpayer paying that, plus likely a few billion for an infrastructure project for us to be able to be self reliant.

I believe even Mogg tweeted once he is open to paying for access to such schemes, but then deleted when so many people pressured him with ideology over pragmatism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"May keeps trying to force Corbyn to agree to her deal and keeps blaming him for not accepting it.

Why would he?

"

Exactly, its a terrible deal.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"UK will not be leaving. A 'deal' on brexit means that the UK hasn't left. The only way the UK leaves is with a total break of ties to the EU and we all know that's never going to happen. "

and the reason why that won't happen is the most sensible thing a conservative mp said today....

"the party would lose 4 million remain voters if it tried to emulate Farage’s Brexit party..........We’d lose young people, we’d lose Scotland, we’d lose London and we’d lose a lot of the most energetic parts of this country,"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The forthcoming EU elections could play a major factor if Farage's brexit party does as well as is predicted.

The EU have currently allowed an extension to article 50 until October, thereby requiring our participation in the elections.

If the PM has still failed to get a deal through and the Brexit party storms the elections, I can't see the EU granting any further extensions.

Why?

Well towards the end of the year, the EU will be holding elections for the commission and the council and they won't want euro-sceptic MEP's involved in that process as, even if we were to leave soon after, future plans the EU have will be scuppered for some time.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"The forthcoming EU elections could play a major factor if Farage's brexit party does as well as is predicted.

The EU have currently allowed an extension to article 50 until October, thereby requiring our participation in the elections.

If the PM has still failed to get a deal through and the Brexit party storms the elections, I can't see the EU granting any further extensions.

Why?

Well towards the end of the year, the EU will be holding elections for the commission and the council and they won't want euro-sceptic MEP's involved in that process as, even if we were to leave soon after, future plans the EU have will be scuppered for some time."

How ironic if the great Satan, that undemocratic dictatorship called the EU, is the one that delivers the referendum mandate!

Lolololol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The forthcoming EU elections could play a major factor if Farage's brexit party does as well as is predicted.

The EU have currently allowed an extension to article 50 until October, thereby requiring our participation in the elections.

If the PM has still failed to get a deal through and the Brexit party storms the elections, I can't see the EU granting any further extensions.

Why?

Well towards the end of the year, the EU will be holding elections for the commission and the council and they won't want euro-sceptic MEP's involved in that process as, even if we were to leave soon after, future plans the EU have will be scuppered for some time.

How ironic if the great Satan, that undemocratic dictatorship called the EU, is the one that delivers the referendum mandate!

Lolololol."

I know, right?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I just want to make a point of the difference between that remain means remain whilst leave does not mean mean leave, whats your view?

My view is you need to buy a dictionary.No, britain will always be in the eu in some way as brexit wont be delivered.

We will end up with all the benefits we had before the referendum but without any say in our future.We shall name this brexit. "
That is right they wont have as much say anymore.

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