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"This type of discussion with damage some sex lives on here "But will also act as a useful filter! | |||
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"This type of discussion with damage some sex lives on here
But will also act as a useful filter! "Exactly, I have already binned some Remoaners
I like my Brexit as rock hard as my morning glory | |||
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"The party should have been back in the summer of 2016 - celebration of 'remain' as the majority vote Alas, we had Jeremy Kyle Show viewers, for the very first time, marking an X in the box..." so only middle class university peeps should be allowed to vote? and people wonder why the country is so divided lol your just as bad as some of the rabid leavers.thank fuck i played no part in it. so watever happens leave or stay half the country will hate the other half.the geanie is well and trully out of the bottle  | |||
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I like my Brexit as rock hard as my morning glory "And without a withdrawal agreement ... | |||
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"Your thoughts pls......" Deathknell of the Conservative Party. Will do well in proportional representation counts, but in a first-past-the-post count the Tories and Farage will neutralise each other, letting Labour romp home. | |||
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"Your thoughts pls...... Deathknell of the Conservative Party. Will do well in proportional representation counts, but in a first-past-the-post count the Tories and Farage will neutralise each other, letting Labour romp home. Labour your having a laugh they will never gain power with Corbyn in charge They don’t know which side of the fence they want to be on " | |||
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" BREXIT 27 seats Labour 23 seats Cons 10 Libs, Green, ChangeUK 13 between them. " No nationalists from anywhere? | |||
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" BREXIT 27 seats Labour 23 seats Cons 10 Libs, Green, ChangeUK 13 between them. No nationalists from anywhere?" You can include them in the 13, as well as the Ulster Parties. I've based the figures mostly on English voting intentions. It's quite possible that SNP will do better in Scotland but not at the expense of BREXIT; more likely at the expense of Labour. | |||
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"What you have to remember is that mps on all sides who went against their electorates wishes and have helped delay Brexit won’t be mps at the next general election and they have seen Corbyn for what he really is spineless " bin the lot of them. We Will Remember them come the next election. Most are now on borrowed time | |||
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"A bunch of gulibles led by the privileged who would see those that are just about managing lose their jobs for the sake of the country's pride and getting one over on a bunch of EU grey suits. " Sadly this does seem to sum them up  | |||
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"I'll be honest, I've registered. 25 quid for registration and it's money well spent.. I just feel we need new direction and hopefully a new party that is honouring the referendum will do this. Farage is a decent guy too, IMO. This party will shake up parliament like nothing ever seen before. Support will spread throughout the country like a Mexican wave, lol. Mr x" A new direction? But Farage won the last referendum. And people voted for exactly the current situation. Now he doesn’t like it and wants something else? Anyway anyone who thinks a racist pig like Farage is a “decent guy” is probably beyond hope. | |||
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" You can include them in the 13, as well as the Ulster Parties. I've based the figures mostly on English voting intentions. It's quite possible that SNP will do better in Scotland but not at the expense of BREXIT; more likely at the expense of Labour. " A third of SNP voters want Scotland to sit outside the EU. How confused will they be? | |||
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"MPs are not on borrowed time. Almost half those who could be arsed to vote in the referendum voted to remain. So they are hardly going to go against an mp who agreed with them." I point which never seems to occur to BREXITERS. I personally will never vote Conservative again because of their anti-EU stance. I can live with Eurosceptics but not Europhobes. I'm also pretty unwilling to vote for Labour's Leave but Remain policy either. I will in future only be voting for parties that have a clear pro-EU and pro-Remain manifesto. | |||
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" You can include them in the 13, as well as the Ulster Parties. I've based the figures mostly on English voting intentions. It's quite possible that SNP will do better in Scotland but not at the expense of BREXIT; more likely at the expense of Labour. A third of SNP voters want Scotland to sit outside the EU. How confused will they be?" The SNP's policy on the EU is clear. They're for Remain. I would struggle to vote for them if I was in Scotland as I'm very much a Unionist. However, in the Euro Elections, if they stood the best chance of taking a seat from a BREXIT party, I would. | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts." It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does. | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does." It's the ethno nationalists I feel sorry for.  | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does." . If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage" Been watching too much game of thrones again? | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage Been watching too much game of thrones again? ". I'm afraid I'm one of those awkward people that refuse to watch it but do enlighten me?. | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage Been watching too much game of thrones again? .
I'm afraid I'm one of those awkward people that refuse to watch it but do enlighten me?."Your rhetoric is slightly disturbing, with your talk of nation states, birth rites, ethnicity is dna etc. I wonder if you are just trolling because while you sound reasoned and intelligent the content of your posts makes me wonder what you are driving at? The game of thrones reference is because of the evident relish with which you expound your viewpoint but if you haven’t seen it you won’t appreciate my point. | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage" They do. The hatred and blaming of foreigners and those who are different has always been easy. The United Kingdom is not a nation by your definition though. The USA is not a nation. China is not a nation. India is not a nation. New Zealand certainly is not. | |||
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"Can't continue in thread as receiving threatening messages Is that how remain win argument" Please report any inappropriate behavior to admin. There's no reason for us not to discuss and debate any topic, in a fully civil and respectful manner. | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage Been watching too much game of thrones again? .
I'm afraid I'm one of those awkward people that refuse to watch it but do enlighten me?.
Your rhetoric is slightly disturbing, with your talk of nation states, birth rites, ethnicity is dna etc. I wonder if you are just trolling because while you sound reasoned and intelligent the content of your posts makes me wonder what you are driving at?
The game of thrones reference is because of the evident relish with which you expound your viewpoint but if you haven’t seen it you won’t appreciate my point. ". I'm driving at trying to educate you just like you me, that's how debate works, your ideas bounce off mine and mine yours. It seems to me that people like yourself have a problem excepting reality?. | |||
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"Should we be forced to go through another EU Election, then the BREXIT Party will stick it to the liberal scum and I hope they earn much money in doing so. I can’t see them making inroads in any general election, unless of course that bitch achieves its dream of forcing us to remain. They will then need to get a national manifesto together, but the anger of this nation will carry them across the line." You have anger issues mate....the Brexit Party voters will comprise an awful lot of people like your good self who believe that it's appropriate to label liberal thinkers as scum and think that ranting and raving is an appropriate substitute for debate and logic. You need some pineapple to go with that attitude.... | |||
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"Can't continue in thread as receiving threatening messages Is that how remain win argument" Report all threatening messages. | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage Been watching too much game of thrones again? .
I'm afraid I'm one of those awkward people that refuse to watch it but do enlighten me?.
Your rhetoric is slightly disturbing, with your talk of nation states, birth rites, ethnicity is dna etc. I wonder if you are just trolling because while you sound reasoned and intelligent the content of your posts makes me wonder what you are driving at?
The game of thrones reference is because of the evident relish with which you expound your viewpoint but if you haven’t seen it you won’t appreciate my point. "I've seen a few ethno nationalists over step the mark with their fervent nationalism a few need multiple sock puppet accounts .Just sayin...  | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage Been watching too much game of thrones again? .
I'm afraid I'm one of those awkward people that refuse to watch it but do enlighten me?.
Your rhetoric is slightly disturbing, with your talk of nation states, birth rites, ethnicity is dna etc. I wonder if you are just trolling because while you sound reasoned and intelligent the content of your posts makes me wonder what you are driving at?
The game of thrones reference is because of the evident relish with which you expound your viewpoint but if you haven’t seen it you won’t appreciate my point. .
I'm driving at trying to educate you just like you me, that's how debate works, your ideas bounce off mine and mine yours.
It seems to me that people like yourself have a problem excepting reality?.
"Well I could throw that back at you too as you seem to be saying that we all live in separate boxes depending on our ethnicity yet ironically a very recent news story has been discussing the interbreeding of neanderthals and modern humans (it was actually all to do with facial recognition and the usefulness of eyebrow raising) but the point is that you seem to be saying that tribe is more important than humanity and as we all know that has been the root of genocidal behaviour many times throughout history. For myself I would rather negotiate than go to war but I suspect that many amongst the leavers are fighting a surrogate war - maybe they should take up boxing as a calming influence? | |||
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"I'll be honest, I've registered. 25 quid for registration and it's money well spent.. I just feel we need new direction and hopefully a new party that is honouring the referendum will do this. Farage is a decent guy too, IMO. This party will shake up parliament like nothing ever seen before. Support will spread throughout the country like a Mexican wave, lol. Mr x" Most sadly it will spread , just like the vile viral disease it is , it is an infection, a ball of putrid pus upon humanity, Who ever perpetuates the virus is either an infected puss ball ( metaphor for unwanted irritation that is potentially harmful) or complicit with its manufacture | |||
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"The nation state and more to the point ones birth rite is almost embedded in ones DNA, take new Zealand for instance, it's barely a few dozen decades old and yet the feeling of being a kiwi runs deep, multiply that by ten fold for European nations half of which already have experienced nation suppression by the communists and This was never going to end well for the globalists despite their best efforts. It will end even worse for the nationalist; it always does.. If that was true I'm afraid there would be no nation states, there'd have disbanded many centuries ago, in a thousand years maybe you'll be able to take the ethnicity out of the person, ethnicity is DNA and ethnicity is nation state, fighting that is like fighting the tide, a pointless task, that's why you get your arse kicked by idiots like Nigel farage and Donald trump. They have a distinct advantage Been watching too much game of thrones again? .
I'm afraid I'm one of those awkward people that refuse to watch it but do enlighten me?.
Your rhetoric is slightly disturbing, with your talk of nation states, birth rites, ethnicity is dna etc. I wonder if you are just trolling because while you sound reasoned and intelligent the content of your posts makes me wonder what you are driving at?
The game of thrones reference is because of the evident relish with which you expound your viewpoint but if you haven’t seen it you won’t appreciate my point. .
I'm driving at trying to educate you just like you me, that's how debate works, your ideas bounce off mine and mine yours.
It seems to me that people like yourself have a problem excepting reality?.
Well I could throw that back at you too as you seem to be saying that we all live in separate boxes depending on our ethnicity yet ironically a very recent news story has been discussing the interbreeding of neanderthals and modern humans (it was actually all to do with facial recognition and the usefulness of eyebrow raising) but the point is that you seem to be saying that tribe is more important than humanity and as we all know that has been the root of genocidal behaviour many times throughout history. For myself I would rather negotiate than go to war but I suspect that many amongst the leavers are fighting a surrogate war - maybe they should take up boxing as a calming influence? ". I'm not quite understanding what your throwing back at me?. My point was nationality is in peoples DNA, it's a very strong influence that's not going to be eradicated with just saying tribalism bad, it's like trying to kick "fucking" out of humans by saying sex bad. My original point was this is why globalism is failing and will continue to. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? " . It's got a clear definition in the dictionary | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? " It's interesting that Jews and Palestinians are genetic blood brothers .So DNA plays no part in nationalism.Its culture .You can overlay any culture on any child and it sticks. Just a lot of guff and hot air from the ethno nationalist. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? It's interesting that Jews and Palestinians are genetic blood brothers .So DNA plays no part in nationalism.Its culture .You can overlay any culture on any child and it sticks. Just a lot of guff and hot air from the ethno nationalist. "Exactly many in the UK are genetically French, and look at the petty tribalism that exist between them | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? It's interesting that Jews and Palestinians are genetic blood brothers .So DNA plays no part in nationalism.Its culture .You can overlay any culture on any child and it sticks. Just a lot of guff and hot air from the ethno nationalist.
Exactly many in the UK are genetically French, and look at the petty tribalism that exist between them ". You know it's just a saying don't you? .
Like when solskjaer said his players have man utd DNA in them, did you write in explaining that there's no football gene let alone a man utd one. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? It's interesting that Jews and Palestinians are genetic blood brothers .So DNA plays no part in nationalism.Its culture .You can overlay any culture on any child and it sticks. Just a lot of guff and hot air from the ethno nationalist.
Exactly many in the UK are genetically French, and look at the petty tribalism that exist between them "It's necessary to try and attempt to intellectualise xenophobic rhetoric to give it substance. It's been attempted throughout history to use science to justify slavery,racism and all manner of nationalistic ideologies. It's just one of the many rabbits the far right attempt to pull out of the hat to justify their position. Maybe they should have their bumps felt to see if they are sub human or not if that's the sort of pseudoscience they wish to peddle. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? It's interesting that Jews and Palestinians are genetic blood brothers .So DNA plays no part in nationalism.Its culture .You can overlay any culture on any child and it sticks. Just a lot of guff and hot air from the ethno nationalist.
Exactly many in the UK are genetically French, and look at the petty tribalism that exist between them .
You know it's just a saying don't you? .
Like when solskjaer said his players have man utd DNA in them, did you write in explaining that there's no football gene let alone a man utd one. "This metaphor got confused when you conflated ethnicity with nationalism. One is nature. The other is nurture. Although the football analogy helps. Rivals become fellow fans when you move from the Premier league to the world Cup. Identity is fluid. | |||
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"100% have my support The swamp certainly needs to be drained"Appropriate. He is Trump's friend and has already said that if brexit is an economic failure and destroys the UK he will leave and his mate the Trumpanzee has said he will be welcome in his USA. So I am guessing you are looking forward to the same sort of greatness and swamp drining for the UK as Trump is giving the USA. (Out of interest how many young children removed from their parents and put in cages will it take to make you feel great?) "Exactly, I have already binned some Remoaners
I like my Brexit as rock hard as my morning glory "LoL! You could block the whole site (or go UNLOS) and any potential meet would replace you in less than a minute. You are a single male and the above applies to virtually all single males. In fact I would suggest that the only place that would even notice your passing would be here and after 1 or 2 comments you would quickly be forgotten here too. And before you get upset and claim I am attacking you, the same applies to virtually all single males on this site. I will even go further and say that any single male who posts on the forums, especially the politics forum is inviting multiple blocks daily ab couples and single females looking to hook up with fun people to play with. | |||
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"I'm still uncertain what the point of having politicians representing everyone in the UK is, from this new party. As it's the UK parliament which has to agree to the departure conditions/contractual elements from the EU, rather than MEPs. Is it a costly political stunt, as a front for a protest vote? Following any of them getting elected, UK citizens would then continue to have to pay for these MEPs, whilst they potentially don't contribute any more than the ukip MEPs did. Whilst there are £millions that continue to be pumped into advertising, designed to shift your opinions and beliefs, by unknown shadow people, it's fair to say that a small number of people are helping you to ensure that they continue to profit, at your own and every other citizen's expense. They are happy for you to sink the UK, as they benefit - but it takes a certain pride to knowingly collude with such manipulation and dumping of your great country down the pan. And you got angry, so you wanted to do that, blindly or with foresight. The referendum was subject to illegal activities: it was a long time ago but still means it's a highly dubious result. No result won: all people lost, except for these invisible highly wealthy donors, that have continued to pump huge sums of money into coercing your opinions, to leave them much wealthier. And your country a decomposing corpse, of what it was and should have been." Exactly. The whole idea of a UK MEP is to work for the benefit of the UK within the European Parliament. They have no sway over UK Parliament whatsoever so by voting for a leave EU MEP is simply and always has been a vote to undermine our position regardless of the detrimental effects it can have on our country. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? " . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him." Now you’re being scurrilous! | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him." He's an MEP for the SW. Must admit I dont know where on the list he is Unsurprisingly I'm not going to vote ukip. Not just because I disagree with their politics, but because they toy with the more unsavoury parts of society (and so give an air of legitamcy)... And because regardless of my EU views Id want an MEP who will do something. Not be a sitting duck happy to scoff from the so called gravy train. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him. He's an MEP for the SW. Must admit I dont know where on the list he is Unsurprisingly I'm not going to vote ukip. Not just because I disagree with their politics, but because they toy with the more unsavoury parts of society (and so give an air of legitamcy)... And because regardless of my EU views Id want an MEP who will do something. Not be a sitting duck happy to scoff from the so called gravy train. " Hes the guy that said "He wouldn't r@pe jess Philips MP " after she said threats of r@pe online need to be taken seriously.He also thinks r@pe victims are whores.He needs money after losing his patreon funding for calling his alt right mates in the KKK white niggers. He's a beautiful human being and I can see why the ethno nationalists want to vote for him. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him. He's an MEP for the SW. Must admit I dont know where on the list he is Unsurprisingly I'm not going to vote ukip. Not just because I disagree with their politics, but because they toy with the more unsavoury parts of society (and so give an air of legitamcy)... And because regardless of my EU views Id want an MEP who will do something. Not be a sitting duck happy to scoff from the so called gravy train. " . I think he's standing for Swindon?. I very much like him and followed him for years. | |||
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"I am not sure what any MEP has actually achieved....other than draw from the gravy train. Sure, in answering, many will support the European democracy line but isn't there a lot of dead weight in the European Parliament?" This is what proper UK MEP's do for us. " MEPs have the power to approve, amend or reject nearly all EU legislation. They hold the European Commission to account and can force it to resign. The European Parliament also decides on the EU budget and influences how EU money is spent. " | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him. He's an MEP for the SW. Must admit I dont know where on the list he is Unsurprisingly I'm not going to vote ukip. Not just because I disagree with their politics, but because they toy with the more unsavoury parts of society (and so give an air of legitamcy)... And because regardless of my EU views Id want an MEP who will do something. Not be a sitting duck happy to scoff from the so called gravy train. . I think he's standing for Swindon?. I very much like him and followed him for years." Can you stand for a town in the EU elections? Until the controversy I hadn't heard of him. | |||
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"You need to define what you mean by nationalism. For most of humanity, the idea of a country didn't exit. And how does nationilsm play through in evolution? Given its this basic its in our DNA. Is there specific coding for Welsh? Could a scientist work out someone's nationality by looking at their genome? . Is your ukip candidate Carl Benjamin? I think he's running in Swindon. I could be very tempted to vote for him. He's an MEP for the SW. Must admit I dont know where on the list he is Unsurprisingly I'm not going to vote ukip. Not just because I disagree with their politics, but because they toy with the more unsavoury parts of society (and so give an air of legitamcy)... And because regardless of my EU views Id want an MEP who will do something. Not be a sitting duck happy to scoff from the so called gravy train. . I think he's standing for Swindon?. I very much like him and followed him for years. Can you stand for a town in the EU elections? Until the controversy I hadn't heard of him. " . I think Swindon is part of the constituency, how many meps does the south west elect?. | |||
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"I'm not and wasn't aware of the bloke until he came to the fore a few days ago. I don't support ukip and i didn't and won't vote in brexit. However i need to pick you up in your mis-quoting of the guy. When talking about Jess Phillips he said 'I wouldn't even r@pe you'. Not a nice thing to say or think i reckon everyone would agree but to give the statement a little context it was said in response to Phillips openly laughing at the statistics for male suicide. Again....not a nice thing to do. But hey! Politicians eh? Shire o' shyte the lot of them "From what I read.she laughed when Philip Davies, the MP for Shipley in Yorkshire, called for a men's day debate. She argued that men already had enough . Which she then got hundred of threats of being being r@ped including one where would be tied up in a basement being endlessly r@ped. | |||
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"it was said in response to Phillips openly laughing at the statistics for male suicide. Again....not a nice thing to do. But hey! Politicians eh? Shire o' shyte the lot of them "Phillips 'laughing at male suicides' is Benjamin's own spin on what happened. Perhaps you might want to have some scepticism over whether he is describing events accurately. | |||
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"it was said in response to Phillips openly laughing at the statistics for male suicide. Again....not a nice thing to do. But hey! Politicians eh? Shire o' shyte the lot of them
Phillips 'laughing at male suicides' is Benjamin's own spin on what happened. Perhaps you might want to have some scepticism over whether he is describing events accurately. "I wouldnt trust anybody who calls himself Sargon of wherever he's away with the fairies a proper muppet .. Maybe he wants to be a grand wizard like Gandalf the white...but for the klan. | |||
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"it was said in response to Phillips openly laughing at the statistics for male suicide. Again....not a nice thing to do. But hey! Politicians eh? Shire o' shyte the lot of them
Phillips 'laughing at male suicides' is Benjamin's own spin on what happened. Perhaps you might want to have some scepticism over whether he is describing events accurately.
I wouldnt trust anybody who calls himself Sargon of wherever he's away with the fairies a proper muppet ..
Maybe he wants to be a grand wizard like Gandalf the white...but for the klan.
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"Seems that he already has magic powers! When the words 'i wouldn't even' appear then he casts a spell and everyone reads it as 'i am going to' ... the master of illusion eh? I don't have a dog in the fight but just for a bit of balance....and to annoy a few hot heads "If a man disagreed with a woman on any point, what are the circumstances under which it would be acceptable for him to stand on front of her and say that to her face? The fact that he was somewhere else or typing on a keyboard is exactly what trolling is. It's easy to write the most disgusting and abusive things and not care about the consequences. The reaction of the recipient is the same as if they were told to their face. "Sticks and stones" etc. only actually works if you really have abnormally low emotional response. This is supposed to be a representative of his constituents and his country. This is how he is going to represent them. These are ways of communicating that he thinks are acceptable. | |||
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"Seems that he already has magic powers! When the words 'i wouldn't even' appear then he casts a spell and everyone reads it as 'i am going to' ... the master of illusion eh? I don't have a dog in the fight but just for a bit of balance....and to annoy a few hot heads
If a man disagreed with a woman on any point, what are the circumstances under which it would be acceptable for him to stand on front of her and say that to her face?
The fact that he was somewhere else or typing on a keyboard is exactly what trolling is. It's easy to write the most disgusting and abusive things and not care about the consequences. The reaction of the recipient is the same as if they were told to their face. "Sticks and stones" etc. only actually works if you really have abnormally low emotional response.
This is supposed to be a representative of his constituents and his country.
This is how he is going to represent them.
These are ways of communicating that he thinks are acceptable.". For context here he is giving a 30 minute talk with a woman from the constituency who's objected to his tweet. https://youtu.be/9InBlsjHer8 | |||
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"Seems that he already has magic powers! When the words 'i wouldn't even' appear then he casts a spell and everyone reads it as 'i am going to' ... the master of illusion eh? I don't have a dog in the fight but just for a bit of balance....and to annoy a few hot heads
If a man disagreed with a woman on any point, what are the circumstances under which it would be acceptable for him to stand on front of her and say that to her face?
The fact that he was somewhere else or typing on a keyboard is exactly what trolling is. It's easy to write the most disgusting and abusive things and not care about the consequences. The reaction of the recipient is the same as if they were told to their face. "Sticks and stones" etc. only actually works if you really have abnormally low emotional response.
This is supposed to be a representative of his constituents and his country.
This is how he is going to represent them.
These are ways of communicating that he thinks are acceptable..
For context here he is giving a 30 minute talk with a woman from the constituency who's objected to his tweet.
https://youtu.be/9InBlsjHer8"Delightful context. He said it to get attention. It is also alright to say anything to anybody to get attention. He also doesn't believe words have any weight yet he talks and talks and talks. He only speaks to the "public" on his YouTube channel so doesn't need to answer to the press. He has a platform and he wants people to listen but doesn't want them to speak
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"Seems that he already has magic powers! When the words 'i wouldn't even' appear then he casts a spell and everyone reads it as 'i am going to' ... the master of illusion eh? I don't have a dog in the fight but just for a bit of balance....and to annoy a few hot heads
If a man disagreed with a woman on any point, what are the circumstances under which it would be acceptable for him to stand on front of her and say that to her face?
The fact that he was somewhere else or typing on a keyboard is exactly what trolling is. It's easy to write the most disgusting and abusive things and not care about the consequences. The reaction of the recipient is the same as if they were told to their face. "Sticks and stones" etc. only actually works if you really have abnormally low emotional response.
This is supposed to be a representative of his constituents and his country.
This is how he is going to represent them.
These are ways of communicating that he thinks are acceptable..
For context here he is giving a 30 minute talk with a woman from the constituency who's objected to his tweet.
https://youtu.be/9InBlsjHer8
Delightful context.
He said it to get attention. It is also alright to say anything to anybody to get attention.
He also doesn't believe words have any weight yet he talks and talks and talks.
He only speaks to the "public" on his YouTube channel so doesn't need to answer to the press.
He has a platform and he wants people to listen but doesn't want them to speak
Reminds me of you "You lectured me about being rude to you last week. Seems you like to lecture others on behaviour but can't actually do it yourself | |||
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"Seems that he already has magic powers! When the words 'i wouldn't even' appear then he casts a spell and everyone reads it as 'i am going to' ... the master of illusion eh? I don't have a dog in the fight but just for a bit of balance....and to annoy a few hot heads
If a man disagreed with a woman on any point, what are the circumstances under which it would be acceptable for him to stand on front of her and say that to her face?
The fact that he was somewhere else or typing on a keyboard is exactly what trolling is. It's easy to write the most disgusting and abusive things and not care about the consequences. The reaction of the recipient is the same as if they were told to their face. "Sticks and stones" etc. only actually works if you really have abnormally low emotional response.
This is supposed to be a representative of his constituents and his country.
This is how he is going to represent them.
These are ways of communicating that he thinks are acceptable..
For context here he is giving a 30 minute talk with a woman from the constituency who's objected to his tweet.
https://youtu.be/9InBlsjHer8
Delightful context.
He said it to get attention. It is also alright to say anything to anybody to get attention.
He also doesn't believe words have any weight yet he talks and talks and talks.
He only speaks to the "public" on his YouTube channel so doesn't need to answer to the press.
He has a platform and he wants people to listen but doesn't want them to speak
Reminds me of you
You lectured me about being rude to you last week.
Seems you like to lecture others on behaviour but can't actually do it yourself"How could that conceivably have been rude if saying that "I thought you were intelligent" wasn't? As I said. He reminds me of you | |||
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"Apart from that your summary was well, woeful at best "Really? What did I state that he didn't? You pick your heroes and I'll pick mine | |||
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"How anyone can support that far right pillock is beyond me. " He is NOT far right you probably have never listened to him or what Farage stands for your just being ignorant | |||
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"Your thoughts pls......" playing a very clever game.... When you are someone in the high ups "what sort of brexit they are advocating for?" they are not answering the question.... thats what "shit" got us in the original mess we are now... also... they have also said they will not advertise any "non-brexit" policy positions until after the european elections.... so they want you to vote for them based on one policy, which they wont specifically define what there version of one policy is.... sound familiar...... and the scary thing is... people will fall for this shit yet again! | |||
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"Apart from that your summary was well, woeful at best
Really?
What did I state that he didn't?
You pick your heroes and I'll pick mine ". He said it to get attention and it's alright to saying anything to anybody to get attention, that statement is fake news | |||
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"Apart from that your summary was well, woeful at best
Really?
What did I state that he didn't?
You pick your heroes and I'll pick mine .
He said it to get attention and it's alright to saying anything to anybody to get attention, that statement is fake news "So our of the summary you quibble over one point. "They wouldn't react to that (referring to using a phrase other than r@pe)" "Why did you say that comment?" "Because she couldn't resist it" "You got a controversy the way you wanted it to happen" (Affirmative response with nodding) "It's alright for you to do it? (Offend someone so that they react to you)" "I think it's OK for you to do it". He didn't want attention? Hear what you want to hear then. Apparently you also can't "prove harm" by by referring to sexual violence in a conversation directed at a woman. Excellent argument. Thinking that "apologising" by saying that "sorry you were offended by it" may be witty for a teen-ager but not an adult. Enough attention for you to. Time to practise your comprehension. | |||
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"Apart from that your summary was well, woeful at best
Really?
What did I state that he didn't?
You pick your heroes and I'll pick mine .
He said it to get attention and it's alright to saying anything to anybody to get attention, that statement is fake news
So our of the summary you quibble over one point.
"They wouldn't react to that (referring to using a phrase other than r@pe)"
"Why did you say that comment?" "Because she couldn't resist it"
"You got a controversy the way you wanted it to happen" (Affirmative response with nodding)
"It's alright for you to do it? (Offend someone so that they react to you)" "I think it's OK for you to do it".
He didn't want attention? Hear what you want to hear then.
Apparently you also can't "prove harm" by by referring to sexual violence in a conversation directed at a woman.
Excellent argument.
Thinking that "apologising" by saying that "sorry you were offended by it" may be witty for a teen-ager but not an adult.
Enough attention for you to. Time to practise your comprehension. ". Maybe your just to adult and lost your sense of humour .
Theres a clip of Jess Phillips reading out his tweet and his name, she's laughing her arse off about it.
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"I'm not and wasn't aware of the bloke until he came to the fore a few days ago. I don't support ukip and i didn't and won't vote in brexit. However i need to pick you up in your mis-quoting of the guy. When talking about Jess Phillips he said 'I wouldn't even r@pe you'. Not a nice thing to say or think i reckon everyone would agree but to give the statement a little context it was said in response to Phillips openly laughing at the statistics for male suicide. Again....not a nice thing to do. But hey! Politicians eh? Shire o' shyte the lot of them
From what I read.she laughed when Philip Davies, the MP for Shipley in Yorkshire, called for a men's day debate. She argued that men already had enough .
Which she then got hundred of threats of being being r@ped including one where would be tied up in a basement being endlessly r@ped."At a time when we have lost Jo Cox to murder and many of our representatives are in fear of their lives and facing horrific acts, anyone stating such threats or implying them somehow, should be banned from public office and arrested for inciting attacks. Vermin. | |||
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"How anyone can support that far right pillock is beyond me. He is NOT far right you probably have never listened to him or what Farage stands for your just being ignorant" Ignorance is bliss for the old left footers, and anyone to the right of Red Ken will be accused of being a far right zealot. I like Nige, not just politically but I like him as a person. The fact that he didn’t want to share a platform with Robinson proves that he is not the type of guy they are painting him to be: I believe the liberal elite are shit scarred of the new party, and Nige in particular. He is raging against the machine, and I for one am willing to help. | |||
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"Your thoughts pls...... Deathknell of the Conservative Party. Will do well in proportional representation counts, but in a first-past-the-post count the Tories and Farage will neutralise each other, letting Labour romp home. " I agree. | |||
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"How anyone can support that far right pillock is beyond me. He is NOT far right you probably have never listened to him or what Farage stands for your just being ignorant Ignorance is bliss for the old left footers, and anyone to the right of Red Ken will be accused of being a far right zealot. I like Nige, not just politically but I like him as a person. The fact that he didn’t want to share a platform with Robinson proves that he is not the type of guy they are painting him to be: I believe the liberal elite are shit scarred of the new party, and Nige in particular. He is raging against the machine, and I for one am willing to help. " Nigel is part of the machine. Sure, he's not part of the big two, but he plays by the same rule book (albeit a bit faster and looser). He's done well to instigate the whole brexit thing. But he's not done anything to change how politics works. And he has taken as much out of the system as anyone else. Until the brexit party has a manifesto about what change really looks like (or any manifesto) and until they look more than just a one policy money making machine, in afraid he will remain as being just another poliyician in my mind. | |||
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"100% have my support The swamp certainly needs to be drained
Appropriate. He is Trump's friend and has already said that if brexit is an economic failure and destroys the UK he will leave and his mate the Trumpanzee has said he will be welcome in his USA. So I am guessing you are looking forward to the same sort of greatness and swamp drining for the UK as Trump is giving the USA. (Out of interest how many young children removed from their parents and put in cages will it take to make you feel great?)
Exactly, I have already binned some Remoaners
I like my Brexit as rock hard as my morning glory
LoL! You could block the whole site (or go UNLOS) and any potential meet would replace you in less than a minute. You are a single male and the above applies to virtually all single males. In fact I would suggest that the only place that would even notice your passing would be here and after 1 or 2 comments you would quickly be forgotten here too.
And before you get upset and claim I am attacking you, the same applies to virtually all single males on this site. I will even go further and say that any single male who posts on the forums, especially the politics forum is inviting multiple blocks daily ab couples and single females looking to hook up with fun people to play with."I have to agree. Since posting regularly on the politics forum my meet rate has taken a very serious nose dive. 
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"100% have my support The swamp certainly needs to be drained
Appropriate. He is Trump's friend and has already said that if brexit is an economic failure and destroys the UK he will leave and his mate the Trumpanzee has said he will be welcome in his USA. So I am guessing you are looking forward to the same sort of greatness and swamp drining for the UK as Trump is giving the USA. (Out of interest how many young children removed from their parents and put in cages will it take to make you feel great?)
Exactly, I have already binned some Remoaners
I like my Brexit as rock hard as my morning glory
LoL! You could block the whole site (or go UNLOS) and any potential meet would replace you in less than a minute. You are a single male and the above applies to virtually all single males. In fact I would suggest that the only place that would even notice your passing would be here and after 1 or 2 comments you would quickly be forgotten here too.
And before you get upset and claim I am attacking you, the same applies to virtually all single males on this site. I will even go further and say that any single male who posts on the forums, especially the politics forum is inviting multiple blocks daily ab couples and single females looking to hook up with fun people to play with.
I have to agree. Since posting regularly on the politics forum my meet rate has taken a very serious nose dive.
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder "That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country | |||
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"How anyone can support that far right pillock is beyond me. " They are bot far right,such a view is very silly and uneducated | |||
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"Your thoughts pls...... playing a very clever game.... When you are someone in the high ups "what sort of brexit they are advocating for?" they are not answering the question.... thats what "shit" got us in the original mess we are now... also... they have also said they will not advertise any "non-brexit" policy positions until after the european elections.... so they want you to vote for them based on one policy, which they wont specifically define what there version of one policy is.... sound familiar...... and the scary thing is... people will fall for this shit yet again!" It is not shit is simply about trying to make sure we leave the EU | |||
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"A single issue pressure group pretending to be a political party. God help us if they get political power anywhere.They are not trying to get political power it is not about power it is about the enforcement of the democratic vote" No its not Its about protesting against the status quo while sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting not listening as loud as you can Never mind though.... if brexit happens most of the people who voted to leave wont notice they have been fucked over royally by the establishment yet again. | |||
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"A single issue pressure group pretending to be a political party. God help us if they get political power anywhere.They are not trying to get political power it is not about power it is about the enforcement of the democratic vote" It's about Nige feeding his ego, nothing more nothing less. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country"If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE. So the UK parliament carry on u abated. Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember. Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. | |||
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"Love that at least £750,000 of the amount the party has has already raised is purely from foreign anonymous donors. Surely they must be lovely, benevolent individuals with no agenda whatsoever?
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"Love that at least £750,000 of the amount the party has has already raised is purely from foreign anonymous donors. Surely they must be lovely, benevolent individuals with no agenda whatsoever?
"Are they foreigners... Or jusy because the only option is paypal its all appearing as US. I'd like to see the time stamps to see how lumpy they are as the maximum you can donate is the most you can without having to disclose a name. If its not suspect they've really not helped themselves given past allegations. | |||
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"Nigel Farage is a self-serving four-letter word starting with a c and ending in a t ...bollocks" No, starting with a "C" not "b", never mind ending in "T" #Facepalm | |||
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"Love that at least £750,000 of the amount the party has has already raised is purely from foreign anonymous donors. Surely they must be lovely, benevolent individuals with no agenda whatsoever?
Are they foreigners... Or jusy because the only option is paypal its all appearing as US.
I'd like to see the time stamps to see how lumpy they are as the maximum you can donate is the most you can without having to disclose a name.
If its not suspect they've really not helped themselves given past allegations. "Minimum amount of money you can donate/send without legally needing to declare the country of origin is £500 on this instance. Every part of that £750,000 is in chuck of £499. Farage also refusing to answer where the money is coming from. Even if it is from the US (which isn't relevant, even if PayPal is based there) it could be coming from people like Steve Bannon - not exactly "okay" either. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. ". Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago. Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to "What happens? My point is nothing of note has happened. A couple of people from a new party are voted in to positons half the country feel are powerless. The give existing parties carry on in the domestic parliament. | |||
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"A single issue pressure group pretending to be a political party. God help us if they get political power anywhere.They are not trying to get political power it is not about power it is about the enforcement of the democratic vote" When was there a democratic vote to leave the EU without a deal because I don't remember anyone saying we would leave the EU without a deal. In fact I clearly remember many leave campaigners saying we would leave "... with a better deal than we have now because the day after we vote leave we would hold all the cards". I also remember that both main parties, that 80% voted for in the last General Election, promised in their manifestoes that we would leave the EU with a good deal. So I ask you again, when was this democratic vote to leave the EU without a deal that you claim the BREXIT party is trying to enforce? | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to "When were they instructed to leave the EU and by whom? I don't remember any legitimate, legal instruction being given by anyone to our sovereign parliament. Maybe you can enlighten me? | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to
What happens? My point is nothing of note has happened. A couple of people from a new party are voted in to positons half the country feel are powerless. The give existing parties carry on in the domestic parliament.
". A rolling stone gathers no moss and this stone is just getting going. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to
What happens? My point is nothing of note has happened. A couple of people from a new party are voted in to positons half the country feel are powerless. The give existing parties carry on in the domestic parliament.
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A rolling stone gathers no moss and this stone is just getting going."And the sooner it gets going and gone so we can get back to rational, pragmatic politics that just might start to address the real issues this country actually faces. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to
What happens? My point is nothing of note has happened. A couple of people from a new party are voted in to positons half the country feel are powerless. The give existing parties carry on in the domestic parliament.
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A rolling stone gathers no moss and this stone is just getting going.
And the sooner it gets going and gone so we can get back to rational, pragmatic politics that just might start to address the real issues this country actually faces.
". Humans have a terrible habit of assuming the future will be like there known past when history says it rarely is. Which ever way we're turning one things for sure, those days are long long gone. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to
What happens? My point is nothing of note has happened. A couple of people from a new party are voted in to positons half the country feel are powerless. The give existing parties carry on in the domestic parliament.
.
A rolling stone gathers no moss and this stone is just getting going.
And the sooner it gets going and gone so we can get back to rational, pragmatic politics that just might start to address the real issues this country actually faces.
.
Humans have a terrible habit of assuming the future will be like there known past when history says it rarely is.
Which ever way we're turning one things for sure, those days are long long gone.
"I disagree. History repeats. The argument we're having now is the same argument we've been having since we split with Rome in the 400s, through the dark ages, 1066 and all that, Henry VIII, abolition and restoration of the monarchy, Glorious Revolution, Corn Laws, WWI, the rise and fall of nationalism in the 30s & 40s, our place in Europe in the 60s and 70s and again now. It's always been about where sovereignty lies in England/Britain and how much of that sovereignty we should share with are neighbours. If we don't learn from the lessons of history then we are doomed to repeat them and if we don't look back to see where we've come from there is no way to project where we're actually heading. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to "I do keep scratching my head and wonder how he is even allowed to stand, given his criminal convictions | |||
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"A single issue pressure group pretending to be a political party. God help us if they get political power anywhere.They are not trying to get political power it is not about power it is about the enforcement of the democratic vote" if its about representing the people... for example the fishermen he says he is protecting, since he is on the EU fishing committee you think he would turn up more than just once in 80 sessions......... | |||
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"They are bot far right,such a view is very silly and uneducated" I agree. They are not far right, they are the modern equivalent of Hindenburg, all they do is 'employ' the far right. I seem to remember it did not work out so well for Hindenburg, I expect Farage will not fare any better in the end. | |||
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"Single issue party's seldom do well at elections that have more than 1 issue which is pretty common sense thing to say. I think we'll find they are a 1 hit wonder That is the idea,win these Euros help get us out then they can disband,they are not trying to govern this country
If they're not in it for the long run then the big two don't care. All this talking about changing politics will be for the birds. To make a change there needs to be a fear that whatever happens in the EU elections could bleed though into the GE.
So the UK parliament carry on u abated.
Which means that they get us out of Europe purely from being meps.but how do they do that when the UK has no political ability to affect the EU. We're dictated to remember.
Their whole ethos and rationale for being just feels odd. .
Well that's what happens when five actual political parties in Westminster can't seem to leave the EU after being instructed by voters to do so nearly 3 years ago.
Just you watch Mr Robinson come to political power in the North West! And really if we're not keen on him getting elected, then they should sort they're shit out and leave the EU as they've been instructed to
What happens? My point is nothing of note has happened. A couple of people from a new party are voted in to positons half the country feel are powerless. The give existing parties carry on in the domestic parliament.
.
A rolling stone gathers no moss and this stone is just getting going.
And the sooner it gets going and gone so we can get back to rational, pragmatic politics that just might start to address the real issues this country actually faces.
.
Humans have a terrible habit of assuming the future will be like there known past when history says it rarely is.
Which ever way we're turning one things for sure, those days are long long gone.
I disagree. History repeats. The argument we're having now is the same argument we've been having since we split with Rome in the 400s, through the dark ages, 1066 and all that, Henry VIII, abolition and restoration of the monarchy, Glorious Revolution, Corn Laws, WWI, the rise and fall of nationalism in the 30s & 40s, our place in Europe in the 60s and 70s and again now. It's always been about where sovereignty lies in England/Britain and how much of that sovereignty we should share with are neighbours. If we don't learn from the lessons of history then we are doomed to repeat them and if we don't look back to see where we've come from there is no way to project where we're actually heading.
". Your right history does repeat but rarely in your lifetime. There's a financial assertion that it's about 3 generations,ie it takes that length to forget your mistakes or just think they won't happen again. Normal politics (what you've known) in my opinion won't be seen again for 3 generations, were either going far left or far right because what you call normal has failed millions and they are now devoid of any hope of normal politics putting any of they're grievances right. | |||
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