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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So when this eventually happens will you vote again and would you change your vote from your first,

I wouldn't vote again

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By *estrianguyMan
over a year ago

chester

I’d vote same again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would stay the same

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire

Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

Assuming this is a protest against the perception that the referendum result is being ignored, I'm really glad that you'll choose not to vote, and I'd enourage you to encourage as many Brexiters as possible to follow your lead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's the point the government never listens to its people? It's always their own interests none of ours.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I’ll only vote if it’s a referendum on whether to have another referendum.

The neverendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vote remain - again

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"I’ll only vote if it’s a referendum on whether to have another referendum.

The neverendum.

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Just keep voting till everyone gets fed up and kick out the useless politicians

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Assuming this is a protest against the perception that the referendum result is being ignored, I'm really glad that you'll choose not to vote, and I'd enourage you to encourage as many Brexiters as possible to follow your lead."

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract


"So when this eventually happens will you vote again and would you change your vote from your first,

I wouldn't vote again "

Definitely with you on that, but

I might vote again if remain is not one of the choices

Why should remainers get two votes

all they have done since the referendum is bitch and moan sad losers all of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another "

This is my feeling too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I honestly think that the people should have more of a say in what happens not just a select few in parliament... If all parties could cooperate to sort something out and just be one big party, then let the people decide what's best. . ..

I think things would of been dealt with by now.

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By *layfulCouple86Couple
over a year ago

Lancashire

I'd vote again, I'd always exercise my right to vote given the opportunity.

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds


"So when this eventually happens will you vote again and would you change your vote from your first,

I wouldn't vote again

Definitely with you on that, but

I might vote again if remain is not one of the choices

Why should remainers get two votes

all they have done since the referendum is bitch and moan sad losers all of them

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So you’d want another referendum but with only one choice ? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So when this eventually happens will you vote again and would you change your vote from your first,

I wouldn't vote again "

Nope and neither would I . Bottom line is the ruling classes will always be in Westminster regardless and pursuing their own little agenda's in pursuit of power and fortune. Ive known only just realised this btw

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

sheffield

I’d refrain from putting this country into any more upheaval and stop the government from lying to each one of us.

Bring back the marathon first and out with the snickers I say

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Ruling Classes"?? How can you democratically elect people to represent you and then use their position as a perjorative?

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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

I would change my mind now I voted to stay but we have gone too far now and we need to leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The day this happens is the day civil war breaks out

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By *illingVicMan
over a year ago

Sevenoaks

I’d always vote... but I’m equally not moaning about the lack of second referendum. My team lost, so be it. But if it comes up again damn right I’ll vote - staying silent is inherently asking to lose.

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"So when this eventually happens will you vote again and would you change your vote from your first,

I wouldn't vote again

Definitely with you on that, but

I might vote again if remain is not one of the choices

Why should remainers get two votes

all they have done since the referendum is bitch and moan sad losers all of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""Ruling Classes"?? How can you democratically elect people to represent you and then use their position as a perjorative?"

So you don't bear any responsibility for their actions!!

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There won’t be a second referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the politicians dont like the vote they change the electorate until they get the answer the politicians want...

Ask Ireland how often they have to vote until they get the "right" answer

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !!"
disagree think even more would vote leave. Not that there will be one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A 52 -48 referendum is unfinished business business.".Nigel farage..

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !! disagree think even more would vote leave. Not that there will be one."

agree.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !! disagree think even more would vote leave. Not that there will be one."
I think they will too. But it wont change what they will tell us the result is

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"There won’t be a second referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.

Spuriously quoted by Mark Twain (SLC)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I want a rematch for the battle of Hastings, I didn't like the result.

Can you imagine if they had today's attitude back then? Haha

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By *ack4NinaCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthen


"The day this happens is the day civil war breaks out"

In this fantastic country...Between who?

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By *ack4NinaCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthen


"I want a rematch for the battle of Hastings, I didn't like the result.

Can you imagine if they had today's attitude back then? Haha "

They did... look at history and you'l see there was war after war, battle after battle, fight after fight. In fact, its the last 60 years where Europe has been at it most peaceful and stable in 100s of years.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

I think they should have done one as soon as the bus adverts were revealed as false.

I think any widespread false advertisement by any major political party should void a referendum result immediately.

We need to realize that a modern referendum need to be run with modern rules, bring them in, and rerun it.

But that should have been done ages ago, not now. Now it should just be accepted that false advertising and social media manipulation may have swayed the result.

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By *tuartsCelloCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.

Spuriously quoted by Mark Twain (SLC)"

Lets have another one and another one, best of 3, 5,7 ? could go on forever

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

I think i am probably a rare breed..Undecided in 2016 and finally voted to remain ..

If we had another referendum, i would vote to leave if it were on the slip.

Not a lover of referendums as that's why we pay MPs highly to make such decisions.

I think its a cop out for such people to throw it back at us.

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

We should have been promised a 2nd referendum before voting in the 1st ( Jacob Rees Mogg called for this ,) so we knew what the terms of our withdrawal would be and we could then decide ,, the fact that the conservative government were so inept in calling a in/out vote now makes it very difficult for anyone to call another referendum ,,, However , if another vote were to be held I would vote remain ( as I did before ) , the difference being that I was a reluctant remainer and would now be 1st in the queue to vote remain

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I now understand Guy Fawkes motives more as each day passes

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds


"I think they should have done one as soon as the bus adverts were revealed as false.

I think any widespread false advertisement by any major political party should void a referendum result immediately.

We need to realize that a modern referendum need to be run with modern rules, bring them in, and rerun it.

But that should have been done ages ago, not now. Now it should just be accepted that false advertising and social media manipulation may have swayed the result."

I agree with this and and like others have said there would be riots in the streets at this point if a second referendum resulted in a majority remain vote.

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By *upremexMan
over a year ago

liverpool. huyton. near yewtree

I would change my vote" only because this bunch of goons have gone out of there way to mess this Brexit up.

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By *arewithmeMan
over a year ago

Craven Arms

More voted to leave than stay.

We should have started the process of leaving and let them come to us and get a deal rather than us being weak again and go cap in hand to them.

That in my view is where it wen't wrong.

They didn't want us to leave so they should be doing the running after us, not us trying to get a good deal from them..

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By *ardleedsMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Leave won so we should leave.

Make you realise how pro remain the media especially BBC are when u watch the new.

All a set of jokers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the ERG didn't want unicorns brexiters wouldn't of snatched defeat from the jaws of victory..

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I'm loath to vote again but probably would. I'm guessing a lot of people might not bother ~ what good will that do?

They'll end up doing what they want anyway, stay most likely

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"I think they should have done one as soon as the bus adverts were revealed as false.

I think any widespread false advertisement by any major political party should void a referendum result immediately.

We need to realize that a modern referendum need to be run with modern rules, bring them in, and rerun it.

But that should have been done ages ago, not now. Now it should just be accepted that false advertising and social media manipulation may have swayed the result."
never seen the bus adverts and do not really use social media. How did it sway us?

That normal remainer argument it getting boring now.

We looked up the pros and cons of both sides ourselves. Taking into account experiance of working in europe and both of us voted to leave.

We do not believe what any polititian says whether they for and against tell the truth tho. Do also feel sorry for May. Cameron was a complete ass.

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By *arewithmeMan
over a year ago

Craven Arms

Why feel sorry for a person who wanted the job, i don't get that one.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


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I agree with this and and like others have said there would be riots in the streets at this point if a second referendum resulted in a majority remain vote. "

I don’t recall any riots after the 2016 referendum.

People accepted the majority outcome.

Why would anyone refuse to recognise the majority outcome again?

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston

I don't want to be poorer. I don't want my business to go bust. I don't want my children to have less opportunity than I did.

So I'll be voting Remain again.

Anyone who still wants to leave wants their head looking at... Not one has been able to give me a good reason to leave, and I've asked literally hundreds of the naive, ill-informed or racist fools.

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

As it was generally the old 'uns that voted leave and the youngsters who wanted to remain , I am a little mystified why the leavers keep threatening riots ,,,, I know who my money would be on if the fighting starts

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By *ilkenWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


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I agree with this and and like others have said there would be riots in the streets at this point if a second referendum resulted in a majority remain vote.

I don’t recall any riots after the 2016 referendum.

People accepted the majority outcome.

Why would anyone refuse to recognise the majority outcome again?"

People didn't accept it though you only have to open your eyes to see that.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another "

Don’t like the result of the fa cup final? Ok let’s have another go

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By *ack4NinaCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthen


"

I agree with this and and like others have said there would be riots in the streets at this point if a second referendum resulted in a majority remain vote.

I don’t recall any riots after the 2016 referendum.

People accepted the majority outcome.

Why would anyone refuse to recognise the majority outcome again?"

We're British and rioting isn't really our thing. In France yeah, If there is a 2nd Ref there will be no riots before, nor after. The previous Ref, apart from being non binding and advisory was subject to criminality. Plus, there was a spectrum of leave meanings. Finally, it was 3 years ago. The public has moved on. The pubic knows much more now.

2nd Ref on the outcome based on Remain V Leave (with leave having a sub vote or leave no deal, mays deal) is the way forward. If Leave wins we're out by the means deciding in the leave sub vote (i.e. no deal or mays deal). If we remain, we remain.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"I would change my mind now I voted to stay but we have gone too far now and we need to leave. "

In what way have we 'gone too far' ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *litstimulousMan
over a year ago

Swindon

Anarchy, topple the government, we need a new Guy Fawkes, but one that doesn't fail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I abstained at the last referendum. If another one is ran i will vote leave.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Will the young people who have turned 18 since the last vote be able to vote? That could and probably will change the outcome massively.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I'm loath to vote again but probably would. I'm guessing a lot of people might not bother ~ what good will that do?

They'll end up doing what they want anyway, stay most likely "
Yep

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

The first vote was full of misinformation on both sides. Have a second vote when there is a deal to vote on simple. Voted to remain but rather have a no deal than anything concocted with Corbyn.

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds


"

I agree with this and and like others have said there would be riots in the streets at this point if a second referendum resulted in a majority remain vote.

I don’t recall any riots after the 2016 referendum.

People accepted the majority outcome.

Why would anyone refuse to recognise the majority outcome again?"

Because the leavers would feel the second referendum was done just to let the remainers have a second chance. Nullifying the previous result and rendering them voiceless ,much less has caused riots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there any point? The country is already split, we've shown our true colours at this point that we don't even like each other yet alone the EU, the sooner we leave, the sooner we can crash and burn and this country can whittle away as we fight each other.

Independent Scotland and United Ireland! England can go screw itself.

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain "

id say its undemocratic to have another vote??

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By *ack4NinaCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthen


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

id say its undemocratic to have another vote??"

Have you only ever voted in one GE?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't want to be poorer. I don't want my business to go bust. I don't want my children to have less opportunity than I did.

So I'll be voting Remain again.

Anyone who still wants to leave wants their head looking at... Not one has been able to give me a good reason to leave, and I've asked literally hundreds of the naive, ill-informed or racist fools."

You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I agree with this and and like others have said there would be riots in the streets at this point if a second referendum resulted in a majority remain vote.

I don’t recall any riots after the 2016 referendum.

People accepted the majority outcome.

Why would anyone refuse to recognise the majority outcome again?

Because the leavers would feel the second referendum was done just to let the remainers have a second chance. Nullifying the previous result and rendering them voiceless ,much less has caused riots."

And they would be right.

If remain had won, would we be re-running it?

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

id say its undemocratic to have another vote??

Have you only ever voted in one GE?"

no but iv only ever voted for one party???

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I’d vote same again"

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By *ack4NinaCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthen


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

id say its undemocratic to have another vote??

Have you only ever voted in one GE?

no but iv only ever voted for one party???"

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is it with leavers and threats of violence.

I wont be intimidated by threats by any cunt.

Who would want thugs like these running the country.

I never saw any remainers rioting after the referendum I did see a brexiter murder an MP in the street.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

id say its undemocratic to have another vote??"
I agree one hundred percent and also very undemocratic of parliament to oppose the democratic vote as they are doing

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"I don't want to be poorer. I don't want my business to go bust. I don't want my children to have less opportunity than I did.

So I'll be voting Remain again.

Anyone who still wants to leave wants their head looking at... Not one has been able to give me a good reason to leave, and I've asked literally hundreds of the naive, ill-informed or racist fools."

Steady Eddie..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder how many politicians will be buying holiday homes with all the extra cash from overtime and expenses you naive fools are paying them

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I don't want to be poorer. I don't want my business to go bust. I don't want my children to have less opportunity than I did.

So I'll be voting Remain again.

Anyone who still wants to leave wants their head looking at... Not one has been able to give me a good reason to leave, and I've asked literally hundreds of the naive, ill-informed or racist fools."

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"I wonder how many politicians will be buying holiday homes with all the extra cash from overtime and expenses you naive fools are paying them "
So you dont pay your taxes then ??

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"What is it with leavers and threats of violence.

I wont be intimidated by threats by any cunt.

Who would want thugs like these running the country.

I never saw any remainers rioting after the referendum I did see a brexiter murder an MP in the street."
I would say that in this thread the only nasty comments have been by 2 remainers . Just saying .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree one hundred percent and also very undemocratic of parliament to oppose the democratic vote as they are doing"

It was an Advisory Vote, that was made clear, ironically if it was a binding vote it would've been stopped due to all the illegal activity of the leave campaign. But hey who needs fact, you're old you know these things, fuck young people, let's ruin their future, England for the English!

Do you support Scotland leaving us? How about Ireland uniting?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would say that in this thread the only nasty comments have been by 2 remainers . Just saying ."

Threatening Civil War to kill Remainers ISN'T a nasty comment?? OK chief.

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain "

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

"

It's not undemocratic to resort to more democracy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

"

Actually 2-1 you forgot about the 1973 vote to join the EEC..

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

It's not undemocratic to resort to more democracy."

when do you stop?? best of 5?

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By *ooliganMan
over a year ago

Preston


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth "

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

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By *ack4NinaCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthen


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

"

I T W A S A D V S O R Y !!

No legal requirement to implement the result, nor a time limit. Think man!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

It's not undemocratic to resort to more democracy.

when do you stop?? best of 5?"
So it is democratic for may to have 4 meaningful votes and more to force her deal, best of 50?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

It's not undemocratic to resort to more democracy.

when do you stop?? best of 5?"

Democracy never stops when it does it's called a dictatorship..,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

It's not undemocratic to resort to more democracy.

when do you stop?? best of 5?"

Oh and I accept that leave won. I'm just confused about why no one likes the only leave solution that doesn't violate international law.

Is it because the people were lied to?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Won’t happen but yes I’d vote again and yes I’d vote the same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We had a referendum the vote was out end of we leave no pandering to the blubbers who didn't like it.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

The result of another referendum will surely cause even more division and my understaning is leave or no deal will not be on the ballot paper...

Parliament overwhelmingly want to remain.

As for previous comments about remainers not rioting, it is the remainers who are creating the divisions through not accepting the original public vote.

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By *ichelangeloxMan
over a year ago

cambridge

Well our elected representatives, have been able to change their minds a number of times. Democracy is ability to be swayed by an idea and change your mind! Not walking blindly down a road because you’ve been ill informed as to it’s destination!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

It's not undemocratic to resort to more democracy.

when do you stop?? best of 5?

Democracy never stops when it does it's called a dictatorship.., "
That is right

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

"

We’d have left the EU on March 29 were it not for the militant wing of the Conservative Party who kept blocking the exit door.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if there is another remain or leave referendum. Will May stand up in public and give the same speech that Cameron gave?

What if leave won again?

What if the EU says sorry, we will not wait for another referendum in case it's still a leave situation.

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

newcastle


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

"

Whoah hold on a second? It's the fault of the remainers that there's a bad deal? Where is the blame on the leavers who all fucked off the morning of the result because they shit themselves when leave won? Do you portion any blame onto Boris, Gove et al for not wanting to step up to the plate to give leavers the unicorn deal that they wanted? They've allowed May to whittle down the hours on the clock rather than stepping up to the mantel. They have betrayed the vote more than anybody because they promised you a good deal and a smooth transition but they didn't want to be there to deliver it. Why is that? Surely if it was conceivable we'd now have left and Boris would have been hailed the greatest PM we ever had? He's laughing at you along with the rest of them. Time's up and guess what? They're slowly coming back out of the woodwork. May's useless but she stayed. Corbyn's not much better but he stuck around too. Even farage fled the morning of the result. Leavers have very short memories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the politicians dont like the vote they change the electorate until they get the answer the politicians want...

Ask Ireland how often they have to vote until they get the "right" answer "

Ireland only ever voted twice on one treaty, after clarification

and guarantees was given about one clause.

There are good arguments for and against Brexit, but as a non British subject following this from outside, I can't help seeing a comparison between Theresa May and a Fab member posting an 'I'm Leaving' thread. The thread goes on for ages, some other members post wishing her luck. Some post 'why don't you just hide your profile and take a break' and most post 'she's still here'. Maybe the answer is to leave, see how it goes and if you find you miss it, then have a referendum to change username and rejoin.

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By *ave 42Man
over a year ago

pontefract


"We had a referendum the vote was out end of we leave no pandering to the blubbers who didn't like it. "

??

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

We’d have left the EU on March 29 were it not for the militant wing of the Conservative Party who kept blocking the exit door."

Indeed. That's the most hilarious thing. We would be out of the EU now if the most fervent brexiteer mps had voted for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now"
You should never accept something you beleive is wrong, there will never been a good deal, until brexiters understand it the better, it is about to not to get the worst deal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We had a referendum the vote was out end of we leave no pandering to the blubbers who didn't like it. "

It was out, you're correct. Now please tell us how to leave the EU without violating the Good Friday Agreement.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"What if there is another remain or leave referendum. Will May stand up in public and give the same speech that Cameron gave?

What if leave won again?

What if the EU says sorry, we will not wait for another referendum in case it's still a leave situation."

It like when two people on fabs have been chatting for ages, really got on and gone into great detail about what will happen when they meet up.

They finally do meet and they don't fancy each other but both are too embarrassed and think they have said too much to back off. So they go from drink to dinner to snog to grope, both of them hating it more and more.

They then go back to their pre booked hotel room and get undressed utterly miserable and are just about to get down to the sex...

At that point one could say "look this isn't working, let's go home" and the other one would be immensely grateful.

The second referendum is just like that and would bring to an end this joyless fuck we've been going through for three years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The result of another referendum will surely cause even more division and my understaning is leave or no deal will not be on the ballot paper...

Parliament overwhelmingly want to remain.

As for previous comments about remainers not rioting, it is the remainers who are creating the divisions through not accepting the original public vote."

Hang on fella it's the brexiters in parliament that have prevented it happening.You might need to google ERG.Its the brexit extremists you need to blame...

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By *istress CockneyWoman
over a year ago

LONDON

Oh my word.

Had a meet a couple of weeks ago and got on to this topic.

Enough to say opposing views and the condom remains unwrapped

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"So when this eventually happens will you vote again and would you change your vote from your first,

I wouldn't vote again "

I agree with what Jacob Rees Mogg said. Two votes is inherently sensible. First one for the concept and then another one later once the details had been confirmed.

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"I honestly think that the people should have more of a say in what happens not just a select few in parliament... If all parties could cooperate to sort something out and just be one big party, then let the people decide what's best. . ..

I think things would of been dealt with by now. "

You know that we have a say by electing those "select few", right?

And I'm not sure I ever want to live in a one-party state!!

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


" Indeed. That's the most hilarious thing. We would be out of the EU now if the most fervent brexiteer mps had voted for it. "

I'm beginning to think that there's a genuine fear of leaving from the most extreme Brexiters. Once out, what's left for them? They know they can no longer blame the EU for everything, and people will find most of their rhetoric to be hollow. Almost better to be in so they can remain 'glorious warriors' against Brussels without ever having to do anything about it.

Either that or they'll move on to the betrayal narrative, which never ends well, for anyone...

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"I don't want to be poorer. I don't want my business to go bust. I don't want my children to have less opportunity than I did.

So I'll be voting Remain again.

Anyone who still wants to leave wants their head looking at... Not one has been able to give me a good reason to leave, and I've asked literally hundreds of the naive, ill-informed or racist fools."

Again a remainer turning things nasty

Think showing a little naivety in thinking we all racist and ill-informed. We just not sheep

I want to keep my business in healthy profits still. I want my children to have more amazing oppurtunities. I want the world open to us all. Thats why voted to leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd vote again if we were only voting for which leave option we went for, now that would be refreshing and democratic. Male

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

I'd vote providing it meant all the useless mps we have now step down. This is, the worst set of politicians this country has ever had. If you feel differently about them then God help us all

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot


"A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !!"

Well then we would have to have another referendum best of three lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !!

Well then we would have to have another referendum best of three lol

"

There’s already been two.

I’m not in favour of another referendum but some of the arguments against it are mental.

How can having more democracy be anti-democratic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't want to be poorer. I don't want my business to go bust. I don't want my children to have less opportunity than I did.

So I'll be voting Remain again.

Anyone who still wants to leave wants their head looking at... Not one has been able to give me a good reason to leave, and I've asked literally hundreds of the naive, ill-informed or racist fools.

Again a remainer turning things nasty

Think showing a little naivety in thinking we all racist and ill-informed. We just not sheep

I want to keep my business in healthy profits still. I want my children to have more amazing oppurtunities. I want the world open to us all. Thats why voted to leave "

This post is bonkers. Why do you want to isolate the uk, make us poor, hand all he wealth to an ever decreasing few. And have a profitable business and open the world up to us all? Those things are mutually exclusive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wealth to an ever decreasing few? Who are they? And will remaining in the EU mean the wealth will be shared between an ever increasing....loads of people?

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"We had a referendum the vote was out end of we leave no pandering to the blubbers who didn't like it. "

Oh you said 'end of'. Well that's that then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wealth to an ever decreasing few? Who are they? And will remaining in the EU mean the wealth will be shared between an ever increasing....loads of people?

"

Rees Mogg, Aaron Banks etc. These are the few individuals who will benefit from Brexit at the expense of the rest of us.

Not sure I understand the second part of the question, remaining in the E.U. would have kept the uk relatively* fair society, and keeps the power out of the hands of a few individuals.

* I say “relatively”, because we need to make things better, reduce austerity, provide more opportunities to people etc. Basically the opposite of what Brexit is bringing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Indeed. That's the most hilarious thing. We would be out of the EU now if the most fervent brexiteer mps had voted for it.

I'm beginning to think that there's a genuine fear of leaving from the most extreme Brexiters. Once out, what's left for them? They know they can no longer blame the EU for everything, and people will find most of their rhetoric to be hollow. Almost better to be in so they can remain 'glorious warriors' against Brussels without ever having to do anything about it.

Either that or they'll move on to the betrayal narrative, which never ends well, for anyone..."

What’s left after Brexit for the extreme brexiteers.

This is the right question to be asking. If they get the most severe damaging Brexit possible, then this is where their fun begins. They can start removing the red tape of environmental protection, of workers rights etc. So their businesses can further exploit people and the environment.

Those who wish to leave to avoid paying their taxes, and to play currency markets, such as Rees Mogg, Brexit is the end game for them, they can retire and live like kings.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

We’d vote again & if the choice was there we would vote Remain.

This cock up is a Tory party problem, not all of them, but enough to have lied about Leave to encourage people to dream of unicorns and gold at the end of the rainbow.

We should have the democratic right to decide now we know how rubbish Brexit will be and how we have been lied to by Aaron Banks, Nigel Farage, ERG and BJ. These people could not give a toss about us, this is a private game from the Eton establishment to take control.

So vote to Remain and jail the bastards for lying, cheating and wasting £billions of our money on ego projects

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vote remain to keep Reece Mogg in the poor house!!! Worrying about what Reece Mogg will earn post brexit is not really worth worrying about. The majority of 'the wealth' is owned by oil, drug and weapons companies....not to mention the banks. They won't feel a thing financially if brexit happens or not....one thing is for sure though....if the whole lot is cancelled then folks Europe wide will still have all their personal problems whatever they may be...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Vote remain to keep Reece Mogg in the poor house!!! Worrying about what Reece Mogg will earn post brexit is not really worth worrying about. The majority of 'the wealth' is owned by oil, drug and weapons companies....not to mention the banks. They won't feel a thing financially if brexit happens or not....one thing is for sure though....if the whole lot is cancelled then folks Europe wide will still have all their personal problems whatever they may be..."

Not worried specifically about Rees Mogg. I was answering your direct question.

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By *ab_SparklesWoman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

I didn't vote but not cause didn't, if I had a chance, I would vote leave but on uk terms not what the eu want and remove the backstop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well you did and usually do single him out and mention his name when commenting on how rich he'll get if/when leave kicks in....something about moving finances abroad most recently....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't vote but not cause didn't, if I had a chance, I would vote leave but on uk terms not what the eu want and remove the backstop "

This is why I’m against another referendum.

I maintain that we don’t know anything now, that we didn’t know clearly before the referendum. People chose to believe their own personal “truths” and will vote against their own interests regardless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well you did and usually do single him out and mention his name when commenting on how rich he'll get if/when leave kicks in....something about moving finances abroad most recently...."

I mention him because this topic keeps coming up. It’s a clear example of how the few people who orchestrated Brexit will benefit personally. We all know that it’s shit for the rest of us.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I didn't vote but not cause didn't, if I had a chance, I would vote leave but on uk terms not what the eu want and remove the backstop "

We have been trying to leave on UK terms for 2 years, the backstop is there to stop the UK breaking up and failing the Good Friday Agreement. It is not simple, that is why the Tories cocked up. Giving them another go won’t make it any better!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't vote but not cause didn't, if I had a chance, I would vote leave but on uk terms not what the eu want and remove the backstop "
It will never be on uk terms, uk is leaving a club that have rules.

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire

This why stay out of politics forum. Full of scaremongers and doom and gloom lol.

Our country is going to be absolutly fine when we come out. Life will go on as normal.

There is not going to be a second referendum. We voted to leave and will happen in one way or another. Remainers will always slag of the leavers calling us racist, uneducated etc,as has been shown when they no nothing about the majority that voted to leave.

Should focus energy in a more positive way rather than ranting behind keyboards that the world going to end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This why stay out of politics forum. Full of scaremongers and doom and gloom lol.

Our country is going to be absolutly fine when we come out. Life will go on as normal.

There is not going to be a second referendum. We voted to leave and will happen in one way or another. Remainers will always slag of the leavers calling us racist, uneducated etc,as has been shown when they no nothing about the majority that voted to leave.

Should focus energy in a more positive way rather than ranting behind keyboards that the world going to end "

In fairness we’ve asked lots of times why people voted leave, specifically what benefits there are for the uk.

No one has been able to give an answer that wasn’t proven wrong in five minutes with data, evidence and links to demonstrate the data.

Surely you can understand our frustration that the country is being flushed down the bog and no one can even be arsed to give a solid reason why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This why stay out of politics forum. Full of scaremongers and doom and gloom lol.

Our country is going to be absolutly fine when we come out. Life will go on as normal.

There is not going to be a second referendum. We voted to leave and will happen in one way or another. Remainers will always slag of the leavers calling us racist, uneducated etc,as has been shown when they no nothing about the majority that voted to leave.

Should focus energy in a more positive way rather than ranting behind keyboards that the world going to end "

Meanwhile on fantasy island..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We had a referendum the vote was out end of we leave no pandering to the blubbers who didn't like it.

It was out, you're correct. Now please tell us how to leave the EU without violating the Good Friday Agreement. "
A brexiter dont respect northern ireland and the good friday agreement, the peace process will be in jeopardy, lets hope there will be justice and they can stay in eu, this will be no doubt be the end of the union

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This why stay out of politics forum. Full of scaremongers and doom and gloom lol.

Our country is going to be absolutly fine when we come out. Life will go on as normal.

There is not going to be a second referendum. We voted to leave and will happen in one way or another. Remainers will always slag of the leavers calling us racist, uneducated etc,as has been shown when

they no nothing about the majority that voted to leave.

Should focus energy in a more positive way rather than ranting behind keyboards that the world going to end "

Ahh c'mon now...engage! It's not as if things will change or be influenced by what some random bloke/blokette says on an internet fuck site!

Personally i'm hoping for a backstop for ever. Ulster folk like me can have the best of both worlds...one foot on Euroland one foot in Britainland.... NI will become a powerhouse I tell ya!!!

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"

Meanwhile on fantasy island.."
can spot a remainer miles away. Can never me nice to the other side

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"I would vote leave but on uk terms not what the eu want and remove the backstop "

What terms are those?

What are the UK's terms for upholding the Belfast Agreement.

The question was asked in 2016.

No-one had an answer then.

Perhaps you do now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Meanwhile on fantasy island.. can spot a remainer miles away. Can never me nice to the other side "

Sorry if you want a hug the lounge is the place for you..

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"never seen the bus adverts and do not really use social media. How did it sway us?

That normal remainer argument it getting boring now."

Advert saying 50 billion would be given to the NHS from brexit. Well done on not seeing it?????

You're joking about how it swayed people? Everyone knows mass social media manipulation took place. A company was paid millions to sift through everyones social media info and personally direct adverts at them. Some would see pictures of migrants, some pictures of nhs, some neither but made up facts on business. Everyone knows this.

You researched it before you voted and voted leave? So you were fully aware of the northern Ireland issue and voted leave? SO you accepted northern Ireland would have to enter a seperate customs agreement to honour the GFA? So why are leavers pushing the government to do a no deal brexit and not do the backstop? You should be aware due to your research that America will demand a backstop for the north too or there will be no american trade deal?

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people. "

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"never seen the bus adverts and do not really use social media. How did it sway us?

That normal remainer argument it getting boring now.

Advert saying 50 billion would be given to the NHS from brexit. Well done on not seeing it?????

You're joking about how it swayed people? Everyone knows mass social media manipulation took place. A company was paid millions to sift through everyones social media info and personally direct adverts at them. Some would see pictures of migrants, some pictures of nhs, some neither but made up facts on business. Everyone knows this.

You researched it before you voted and voted leave? So you were fully aware of the northern Ireland issue and voted leave? SO you accepted northern Ireland would have to enter a seperate customs agreement to honour the GFA? So why are leavers pushing the government to do a no deal brexit and not do the backstop? You should be aware due to your research that America will demand a backstop for the north too or there will be no american trade deal?"

Do not really pay attention to adverts tell the truth so no never seen.

Do i have all the answers?. Of course not. Same as you. I made an educated decision when voted same as always do. You can google the answers to your questions save me writing an essay.

Can you answer why everyone who voted leave a racist? Uneducated? I can google facts and figures, regions blah da blah can find nothing to justify that statement. Or you just getting on your high horse behind a keyboard?

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"never seen the bus adverts and do not really use social media. How did it sway us?

That normal remainer argument it getting boring now.

Advert saying 50 billion would be given to the NHS from brexit. Well done on not seeing it?????

You're joking about how it swayed people? Everyone knows mass social media manipulation took place. A company was paid millions to sift through everyones social media info and personally direct adverts at them. Some would see pictures of migrants, some pictures of nhs, some neither but made up facts on business. Everyone knows this.

You researched it before you voted and voted leave? So you were fully aware of the northern Ireland issue and voted leave? SO you accepted northern Ireland would have to enter a seperate customs agreement to honour the GFA? So why are leavers pushing the government to do a no deal brexit and not do the backstop? You should be aware due to your research that America will demand a backstop for the north too or there will be no american trade deal?

Do not really pay attention to adverts tell the truth so no never seen.

Do i have all the answers?. Of course not. Same as you. I made an educated decision when voted same as always do. You can google the answers to your questions save me writing an essay.

Can you answer why everyone who voted leave a racist? Uneducated? I can google facts and figures, regions blah da blah can find nothing to justify that statement. Or you just getting on your high horse behind a keyboard?"

I am pretty sure you can also see on Google that pretty much every Leave argument is based on a lie, so a 2nd Referendum would give you a chance to revise your decision based on the truth for a change. I’m not blaming you, the lie’swere persuasive (& well funded), so on the face of it Leaving could have been a good idea - sadly none of the promises could be delivered...

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over a year ago


"A second referendum is basically a guaranteed Remain , no matter what !!

Well then we would have to have another referendum best of three lol

There’s already been two.

I’m not in favour of another referendum but some of the arguments against it are mental.

How can having more democracy be anti-democratic? "

The question of how can having more democracy be anti-democracy is facile.

If you ask a question over and over again until you get the answer you want you aren't practicing democracy, you are simply rubber stamping your dictat.

Now, ultimately if this were a question where the situation could be variable and say we changed in or out every year and the was a vote each year, that would be democracy (though clearly not applicable here)

Or what could be more applicable here is if we said in 10 years time having been out for a decade "Do you want to go back in" that would also be democracy.

But we keep talking about how "the facts have changed" as a reason for a second referendum. The facts haven't changed. This bullshit was always going to be how it went down, it was obvious from the start.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city


"Do not really pay attention to adverts tell the truth so no never seen.

Do i have all the answers?. Of course not. Same as you. I made an educated decision when voted same as always do. You can google the answers to your questions save me writing an essay.

Can you answer why everyone who voted leave a racist? Uneducated? I can google facts and figures, regions blah da blah can find nothing to justify that statement. Or you just getting on your high horse behind a keyboard?"

They call leavers racist because of adverts you claim not to have seen? the adverts showing long queues of migrants trying to get into the UK, showing how they needed to keep them out?

To quote an independent review of the adverts after facebook handed them over.

"with the official Vote Leave campaign especially deploying direct dogwhistle racism to stir up fear among voters about foreigners coming to the UK if it can’t control its own border or if the EU expands to add more countries"

The turkey/albania adverts.

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"Do not really pay attention to adverts tell the truth so no never seen.

Do i have all the answers?. Of course not. Same as you. I made an educated decision when voted same as always do. You can google the answers to your questions save me writing an essay.

Can you answer why everyone who voted leave a racist? Uneducated? I can google facts and figures, regions blah da blah can find nothing to justify that statement. Or you just getting on your high horse behind a keyboard?

They call leavers racist because of adverts you claim not to have seen? the adverts showing long queues of migrants trying to get into the UK, showing how they needed to keep them out?

To quote an independent review of the adverts after facebook handed them over.

"with the official Vote Leave campaign especially deploying direct dogwhistle racism to stir up fear among voters about foreigners coming to the UK if it can’t control its own border or if the EU expands to add more countries"

The turkey/albania adverts."

I dont do facebook

You say they. Why are YOU calling names? you think all are Or believe everything you read?

You calling me a racist because i voted leave? according to YOUR statement i am.

If i was inclined to be upset by bullies behind a keyboard would be deeply offended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet! "

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

As the binary decision leave/remain has already been made, surely the only questions for a second referendum should involve a choice between the options involved in leaving?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the binary decision leave/remain has already been made, surely the only questions for a second referendum should involve a choice between the options involved in leaving?"

This male

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"

Meanwhile on fantasy island.. can spot a remainer miles away. Can never me nice to the other side

Sorry if you want a hug the lounge is the place for you.. "

Hugs are good

Think thats where this thread started and got moved. NEVER come into politics thread of own violition. Looked once and was all negative

But dont worry about us. The nasty messages get for daring to say we want to be out of the eu makes us feel better about ourselves shows some if the real characteristics of a lot of remainers once they behind a keyboard. (Reminds of the crazy lady in simpsons who throws cats at everyone )

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice "

& the irony of your statement passes you by?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

Don’t like the result of the fa cup final? Ok let’s have another go "

Most clubs, except for the one that actually wins, don't like the result of the FA Cup final and they all have another go the next year. Not really a very good analogy, is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

& the irony of your statement passes you by?"

All the racist comments I've ever had on here have been from remainers hiding behind their keyboards. If I was as childish as them, I'd have reported them but I'm just not that low. Are you going to get some in too? You'd be no different from your buddies

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By *arewithmeMan
over a year ago

Craven Arms

All you have to do is look where he comes from.......LOL

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

& the irony of your statement passes you by?

All the racist comments I've ever had on here have been from remainers hiding behind their keyboards. If I was as childish as them, I'd have reported them but I'm just not that low. Are you going to get some in too? You'd be no different from your buddies "

I don’t know you, so I can’t comment. My experience is that Remainers are fact based and Leavers are hope based. Nothing wrong with that other than this hope is based on romantic notions of Britains past and lie’s from Brexit leaders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remainers wanting to keep a multicultural society now branded as racist...how the fuck do you work that one out then

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

"

Maybe you could give us all some idea of what this 'good deal' might have actually looked like?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

Probably only remainers will vote

So that will make it 1-1

Or is it best of 3-5-7-9

Nothing Democratic about it

Just maybe if the remainers had accepted that they lost the referendum and accepted the result we might of been out of the eu with a good deal now

Actually 2-1 you forgot about the 1973 vote to join the EEC.. "

1975 actually, and it was Leave or Remain not whether to join or not. Remain won with 67%.

So the actual score is 1 - 1, with Remain ahead of percentage difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice "

Blimey, the anger and confusion is strong with you.

Don’t you see any irony in your comments? Remainers use facts and information. So far I haven’t heard any facts or information in favour of Brexit. Just “opinions” and “belief”.

Leavers have been challenged countless times to provide 1 single simple benefit to the uk from leaving the E.U. thus far no one has been able to give a single benefit. Not one, nothing.

Any remainer could give you some very simple factual disadvantages of leaving.

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By *eorge n DragonCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

Blimey, the anger and confusion is strong with you.

Don’t you see any irony in your comments? Remainers use facts and information. So far I haven’t heard any facts or information in favour of Brexit. Just “opinions” and “belief”.

Leavers have been challenged countless times to provide 1 single simple benefit to the uk from leaving the E.U. thus far no one has been able to give a single benefit. Not one, nothing.

Any remainer could give you some very simple factual disadvantages of leaving. "
do not think there is any confusion. Sure we all adults and can google facts. There are pros and cons to both sides and we all voted how we wanted.

I think the confusion is remainers demanding a second vote because did not win . When younger, called those people sore losers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s ok then maybe we should cancel all voting as we have a government so we don’t need a new one

After all we all made the choice the last time and should suck it up now

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

Blimey, the anger and confusion is strong with you.

Don’t you see any irony in your comments? Remainers use facts and information. So far I haven’t heard any facts or information in favour of Brexit. Just “opinions” and “belief”.

Leavers have been challenged countless times to provide 1 single simple benefit to the uk from leaving the E.U. thus far no one has been able to give a single benefit. Not one, nothing.

Any remainer could give you some very simple factual disadvantages of leaving. do not think there is any confusion. Sure we all adults and can google facts. There are pros and cons to both sides and we all voted how we wanted.

I think the confusion is remainers demanding a second vote because did not win . When younger, called those people sore losers. "

So Farage saying that if Leave lost 52:48 doesn’t rankle with you then? The issue is that too few people voted for this mess, so quite rightly the rest of us question it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That’s ok then maybe we should cancel all voting as we have a government so we don’t need a new one

After all we all made the choice the last time and should suck it up now "

Don't you know democracy stopped in 2016 we aren't allowed to vote anymore according to the brexiters...

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


" Indeed. That's the most hilarious thing. We would be out of the EU now if the most fervent brexiteer mps had voted for it.

I'm beginning to think that there's a genuine fear of leaving from the most extreme Brexiters. Once out, what's left for them? They know they can no longer blame the EU for everything, and people will find most of their rhetoric to be hollow. Almost better to be in so they can remain 'glorious warriors' against Brussels without ever having to do anything about it.

Either that or they'll move on to the betrayal narrative, which never ends well, for anyone...

What’s left after Brexit for the extreme brexiteers.

This is the right question to be asking. If they get the most severe damaging Brexit possible, then this is where their fun begins. They can start removing the red tape of environmental protection, of workers rights etc. So their businesses can further exploit people and the environment.

Those who wish to leave to avoid paying their taxes, and to play currency markets, such as Rees Mogg, Brexit is the end game for them, they can retire and live like kings."

Yes, quite. I agree. I was thinking more of what's left of their political raison d'etre - there will be no Brussels bogey-man to rail against/hide behind.

A severe Brexit will cause huge harm to many people. Of course, Rees Mogg et al will be fine, but you have to hope their less well-off followers will quickly see them for the charlatans they are...

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"My experience is that Remainers are fact based and Leavers are hope based. Nothing wrong with that other than this hope is based on romantic notions of Britains past and lies from Brexit leaders."

Exactly this. Hope and faith, neither of which should have a central place in political decision-making.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

This is my feeling too"

My concern as well

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

This is my feeling too

My concern as well "

Like regular general elections you mean? Should we just have an autocracy then?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I do have to laugh at people using the words "facts and Brexit" in the same sentence

No one, absolutely no one knows what is going to happen after Brexit.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

This is my feeling too

My concern as well

Like regular general elections you mean? Should we just have an autocracy then?"

When has a regular general election been done twice because the losers didn't like the results?

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

This is my feeling too

My concern as well

Like regular general elections you mean? Should we just have an autocracy then?

When has a regular general election been done twice because the losers didn't like the results? "

It is 3 years since we were last lied to for the Referendum, since then the Tories won a General Election, but lost their majority and had to bribe the DUP to support them. So quite recently really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

Blimey, the anger and confusion is strong with you.

Don’t you see any irony in your comments? Remainers use facts and information. So far I haven’t heard any facts or information in favour of Brexit. Just “opinions” and “belief”.

Leavers have been challenged countless times to provide 1 single simple benefit to the uk from leaving the E.U. thus far no one has been able to give a single benefit. Not one, nothing.

Any remainer could give you some very simple factual disadvantages of leaving. do not think there is any confusion. Sure we all adults and can google facts. There are pros and cons to both sides and we all voted how we wanted.

I think the confusion is remainers demanding a second vote because did not win . When younger, called those people sore losers. "

I'm not in favour of another referendum.

If there is one thing we've learned from all this bullshit is that people are too easily persuaded to vote against their own interests and cant be trusted to understand the implications of such complex issues.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham


"When has a regular general election been done twice because the losers didn't like the results?

It is 3 years since we were last lied to for the Referendum, since then the Tories won a General Election, but lost their majority and had to bribe the DUP to support them. So quite recently really "

I fear you misunderstand this difference between calling another general election and re-voting on the same topic twice because the losers are crying

Don't worry I'm leaving...

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"When has a regular general election been done twice because the losers didn't like the results?

It is 3 years since we were last lied to for the Referendum, since then the Tories won a General Election, but lost their majority and had to bribe the DUP to support them. So quite recently really

I fear you misunderstand this difference between calling another general election and re-voting on the same topic twice because the losers are crying

Don't worry I'm leaving..."

Where are you off to? It is quite likely the rest of us aren’t going anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

This is my feeling too

My concern as well

Like regular general elections you mean? Should we just have an autocracy then?

When has a regular general election been done twice because the losers didn't like the results? "

All of us are losers, only a few individuals who orchestrated Brexit are winners.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"I reckon it will happen in a month or two, it is democratic and I reckon there would be a more turn out this time supporting remain

id say its undemocratic to have another vote??I agree one hundred percent and also very undemocratic of parliament to oppose the democratic vote as they are doing"

Parliament aren't opposing the vote. The problem isn't some massive conspiracy of "us and them" it's the exact opposite in that no-one agrees on anything. Which is exactly what leavers were told would happen. Which was just dismissed as Project Fear. You made this. Own it.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"You've asked "hundreds" have you?? I very much doubt you're telling the truth

Yes, hundreds... It's the main topic of conversation with my customers and people I work with... I come into contact with dozens every week, so it's not really a huge stretch to work out that over the course of 3 years, I've discussed Brexit with hundreds of people.

How many of them did you say were "racist fools" to their face!? None I bet!

Remainers do tend to be cowardly, hiding behind a keyboard types. Their main arguments seem to be insults, misinformation and calling all leavers racist. They aren't the sort of people that should have a vote, let alone a voice

Blimey, the anger and confusion is strong with you.

Don’t you see any irony in your comments? Remainers use facts and information. So far I haven’t heard any facts or information in favour of Brexit. Just “opinions” and “belief”.

Leavers have been challenged countless times to provide 1 single simple benefit to the uk from leaving the E.U. thus far no one has been able to give a single benefit. Not one, nothing.

Any remainer could give you some very simple factual disadvantages of leaving. do not think there is any confusion. Sure we all adults and can google facts. There are pros and cons to both sides and we all voted how we wanted.

I think the confusion is remainers demanding a second vote because did not win . When younger, called those people sore losers. "

I bet you can't name one pro of Brexit that isn't a myth that's already been shown to be false.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

Don’t like the result of the fa cup final? Ok let’s have another go

Most clubs, except for the one that actually wins, don't like the result of the FA Cup final and they all have another go the next year. Not really a very good analogy, is it?

"

Well it works actually. Since we havent actually HAD brexit and your side is doing its very best to prevent the outcome of a democratic vote the analogy would be best expressed as you being 2-0 down at full time and then demanding everyone get back on the pitch before the winner could lift the trophy so that you can go again and have a chance to win this time.

I dont have a problem with a referendum some time down the line after we have been out a while to determine whether people would like to rejoin. If thats what people want, goody gumdrops, thats democracy.

Trying to reverse a decision before you have even implemented their first instruction, thats not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

Don’t like the result of the fa cup final? Ok let’s have another go

Most clubs, except for the one that actually wins, don't like the result of the FA Cup final and they all have another go the next year. Not really a very good analogy, is it?

Well it works actually. Since we havent actually HAD brexit and your side is doing its very best to prevent the outcome of a democratic vote the analogy would be best expressed as you being 2-0 down at full time and then demanding everyone get back on the pitch before the winner could lift the trophy so that you can go again and have a chance to win this time.

I dont have a problem with a referendum some time down the line after we have been out a while to determine whether people would like to rejoin. If thats what people want, goody gumdrops, thats democracy.

Trying to reverse a decision before you have even implemented their first instruction, thats not. "

We don't need to try Brexit to know it's a massive bag of shit.

Even the least damaging Brexit still had a massive negative impact on the environment, workers rights, the economy, austerity etc.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Will that set a precedence for all future votes?

Do not like the outcome. Lets have another

Don’t like the result of the fa cup final? Ok let’s have another go

Most clubs, except for the one that actually wins, don't like the result of the FA Cup final and they all have another go the next year. Not really a very good analogy, is it?

Well it works actually. Since we havent actually HAD brexit and your side is doing its very best to prevent the outcome of a democratic vote the analogy would be best expressed as you being 2-0 down at full time and then demanding everyone get back on the pitch before the winner could lift the trophy so that you can go again and have a chance to win this time.

I dont have a problem with a referendum some time down the line after we have been out a while to determine whether people would like to rejoin. If thats what people want, goody gumdrops, thats democracy.

Trying to reverse a decision before you have even implemented their first instruction, thats not. "

So you have a bet on a horse in the Grand National and it wins, fantastic, elation and then you here the horse was doped and the result is overturned. What do you do, accept it or riot in the streets? Brexit was a con and nobody can argue about that.

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