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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago

near ipswich

Seems they are putting all their workers on permanent contracts from zero hour contracts due to brexit.Worried about the lack of cheap labour from the eu.Should please all you that keep banging on about zero hour contracts when it's pointed out we have increased jobs since we voted to leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The zero hours contracts where one of the biggest cons ever invented, nobody I know is happy on one always struggling to get enough hours to make it worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The zero hours contracts where one of the biggest cons ever invented, nobody I know is happy on one always struggling to get enough hours to make it worth it.

YTS was another!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Anything that forces shit employers to give staff proper contracts with guaranteed hours or face going out of business that can only be a good thing.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Seems they are putting all their workers on permanent contracts from zero hour contracts due to brexit.Worried about the lack of cheap labour from the eu.Should please all you that keep banging on about zero hour contracts when it's pointed out we have increased jobs since we voted to leave.

They abolished zero hours contracts last year.

They intend to offer flexible working and family friendly hours to future employees, in case there is a employee shortage in the future.

Their gender diversity policy is also bringing in more employees, so it seems that progressive working practices are reaping due reward.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So a single unintended benefit from Brexit for one set of employees working for a single company.

Assuming this is true, I haven’t looked into it to see if is, or to see if the contracts you say they have been offered are actually much better than their zero hours contracts. This is the first minor benefit that anyone has managed to mention on these forums since the start. So well done on that.

Is this worth the epic 800 million a week we’re haemorrhaging due to Brexit or all the other businesses that are exodusing the country and all their workers that are being layed off, even before we’ve left!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If this is true then it's the first good piece of news because of Brexit I've heard.

Nice to finally have some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anything that forces shit employers to give staff proper contracts with guaranteed hours or face going out of business that can only be a good thing."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Anything that forces shit employers to give staff proper contracts with guaranteed hours or face going out of business that can only be a good thing."

This..

People deserve respect and the right to be treated decently with terms and conditions applicable to the modern age not serfs to stand about at the beck and call of some lackey of the boss..

Economies like Germany have proven they can have standards in the workplace that not only protects the workers right but is shown to be successful..

Whilst some elements of flexible working are good the type of zero hours contracts used by some here are not acceptable..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The UK has serious shortages across various skilled sectors, not least in health, engineering and construction. If what you say is correct, it looks like employers are starting to feel a shortage of unskilled labour, too.

I’ve been arguing for a while that Brexit is likely to expose serious deficiencies in the education and training of people here.

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By *rincessvenusCouple
over a year ago

Hull

ime retired and do a part time job sometimes full time on zero hrs its great having free days

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"ime retired and do a part time job sometimes full time on zero hrs its great having free days"

Really?

Why not fixed part time hours with flexable working round core hours?

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By *ostafun OP Man
over a year ago

near ipswich

"ime retired and do a part time job sometimes full time on zero hrs its great having free days"
Yep i do a bit of part time too on zero hours works well for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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The director of Reed Employment was interviewed in one of the weekend papers and they are expecting business to increase ( not decrease) . It makes Project Fear look laughable now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are plus sides to zero hours contracts. It gives employees flexibility and the opportunity to prove themselves for more permanent roles.

Like it or not it is business that keeps people in work who in turn pay taxes that fund public services .

In many businesses competition is cut throat and employers have little choice but to adopt zero hours contracts.You need to be able to adopt quickly to changing circumstances .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The director of Reed Employment was interviewed in one of the weekend papers and they are expecting business to increase ( not decrease) . It makes Project Fear look laughable now. "

I don't think you understand how temp employment works. An increase in zero hours and temp contracts at the expense of proper jobs isn't a win for Brexit.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

The director of Reed Employment was interviewed in one of the weekend papers and they are expecting business to increase ( not decrease) . It makes Project Fear look laughable now. "

It's good that he is so confident, but he is an outlier in his opinion.

There are several major businessmen who supported Brexit. Several have now relocated themselves and their companies abroad.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"There are plus sides to zero hours contracts. It gives employees flexibility and the opportunity to prove themselves for more permanent roles.

Like it or not it is business that keeps people in work who in turn pay taxes that fund public services .

In many businesses competition is cut throat and employers have little choice but to adopt zero hours contracts.You need to be able to adopt quickly to changing circumstances . "

Is this Pat again?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Like it or not it is business that keeps people in work who in turn pay taxes that fund public services."

That is the biggest load of bullshit to ever be propagated. Business only has 1 aim and that is to MAXIMISE PROFIT. It does this with the smallest workforce possible paying as little and with the minimum worker security it can get away with. It is customers and government (when it invests inwardly) who create jobs and through those jobs wealth.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"The zero hours contracts where one of the biggest cons ever invented, nobody I know is happy on one always struggling to get enough hours to make it worth it.

I disagree. I know that my situation is probably not the same as many who have been forced into taking these sorts of contacts against their will but not all, including myself. I do believe that the situation has been abused my some employees but for some people, like myself, these sorts of flexible contacts have worked well. Whilst I hope the abuses of the contracts is addressed, and some already have, I would not support the abolition of these sorts of contracts and the flexibility that can comes with them.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"ime retired and do a part time job sometimes full time on zero hrs its great having free days

Really?

Why not fixed part time hours with flexable working round core hours?"

Because, like me, that's not what he wants.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"There are plus sides to zero hours contracts. It gives employees flexibility and the opportunity to prove themselves for more permanent roles.

Like it or not it is business that keeps people in work who in turn pay taxes that fund public services .

In many businesses competition is cut throat and employers have little choice but to adopt zero hours contracts.You need to be able to adopt quickly to changing circumstances . "

But, as long as the playing field is level, competition would remain the same. What you seem to be saying is that employers are forcing employees into zero hour contracts because the competition is. If they were made illegal then the competition would not have them either. That seems to me to be a reason to ban them, not keep them.

Zero hour contracts are only a good idea if the employee wants the flexibility they can offer.

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