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" I love you tommy I do. The bloke is a legend. " FIFY | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " You mistyped bell-end! | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " 0/10 for trolling. Poor effort, must try harder. | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " LOL nice try | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. " | |||
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"Who?" The guy who used to present Time Team... you know ... Baldrick | |||
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"Can we restart the cycling thread instead ... that may be less controversial " Hahaha love it !! What about gardening ?? | |||
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"Can we restart the cycling thread instead ... that may be less controversial Hahaha love it !! What about gardening ??" Uphill? | |||
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"Who? The guy who used to present Time Team... you know ... Baldrick" Ahhh the geezer with a "cunning plan". I love him, he's a legend. | |||
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"Who?" Paul Robinson from Neighbours evil twin. | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx " Freedom of hate speech you mean. | |||
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"Can we restart the cycling thread instead ... that may be less controversial Hahaha love it !! What about gardening ?? Uphill? " Toooo controversial !! | |||
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"Can we restart the cycling thread instead ... that may be less controversial Hahaha love it !! What about gardening ?? Uphill? Toooo controversial !! " Oh ... THAT it's controversial??? | |||
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"Anyone who dares to object to the lefties is a Nazi " | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx Freedom of hate speech you mean. " That maybe so I’m not a follower I don’t particularly like him but he is fighting for freedom of speech what I don’t like is how he horribly he speaks of ethnic minorties I hate racism Mrscxxx | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx Freedom of hate speech you mean. That maybe so I’m not a follower I don’t particularly like him but he is fighting for freedom of speech what I don’t like is how he horribly he speaks of ethnic minorties I hate racism Mrscxxx " He doesn't though. He speaks about Islam, that's a religion, not an ethnic minority. And it is an issue. | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx Freedom of hate speech you mean. That maybe so I’m not a follower I don’t particularly like him but he is fighting for freedom of speech what I don’t like is how he horribly he speaks of ethnic minorties I hate racism Mrscxxx He doesn't though. He speaks about Islam, that's a religion, not an ethnic minority. And it is an issue. " Islam is not a religion it’s a way of life though | |||
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"Anyone who dares to object to the lefties is a Nazi " I don’t think it’s a right/left thing with him. I can’t stand the man and I’m no lefty. Although I have just as much intolerance for far right as I do for far left. | |||
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"Anyone who dares to object to the lefties is a Nazi I don’t think it’s a right/left thing with him. I can’t stand the man and I’m no lefty. Although I have just as much intolerance for far right as I do for far left. " You prefer it straight up the middle? | |||
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"*Ghengis shows Tommy Robinson and all his supporters the Cold Face, turns his back on you and wanders off*" | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " Not the word I'd use for Stephen Christopher Yaxley-lennon..... | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " No | |||
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"The bloke is a nazi prick." | |||
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"Anyone who dares to object to the lefties is a Nazi I don’t think it’s a right/left thing with him. I can’t stand the man and I’m no lefty. Although I have just as much intolerance for far right as I do for far left. " Is he "far right" then? | |||
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"Anyone who dares to object to the lefties is a Nazi I don’t think it’s a right/left thing with him. I can’t stand the man and I’m no lefty. Although I have just as much intolerance for far right as I do for far left. You prefer it straight up the middle? " I prefer to be behind you in all this debate | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now " Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case | |||
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"Tommy is no angel His latest documentary though is interesting to watch even if you don’t agree with him I don’t agree with Tommy or his actions but he brings up a lot of topics which need discussing The main stream media never cover him properly and always misquote him or out of context Brushing him off because you read a headline about him in The S** is no good. " The media is controlled by the government they only report what the government allow Mrscxxx | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " He is if "legend" now includes hate filled, Nazi thug | |||
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"He’s a racist knobhead whose made himself quite a bit of money from other racist knobheads. He’s certainly no champion of free speech and anyone who thinks he is has a fucking screw loose imo. " How | |||
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"Ohh Troll-y Robinson dangling that hook looking for bites forced bukkake play for Tommy - let's start a facial riot " haha ?? | |||
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"Ohh Troll-y Robinson dangling that hook looking for bites forced bukkake play for Tommy - let's start a facial riot haha ?? " Did you find that funny, or not? | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. " Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. | |||
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"The best bit in Tommy’s latest doc is when the BBC producer has his head in his hands when he realises that Tommy has got the Panorama journalist on tape spurting out racial and homophobic slurs." love it | |||
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"Anyone who dares to object to the lefties is a Nazi I don’t think it’s a right/left thing with him. I can’t stand the man and I’m no lefty. Although I have just as much intolerance for far right as I do for far left. Is he "far right" then? " Yes I’d say he was. Irrelevant though He’s just an idiot to me who’s thick as two short planks! Have you ever seen him being interviewed!! ?? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case " Oh yeah! Straight up the middle leaning to the right lol x | |||
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"He’s a racist knobhead whose made himself quite a bit of money from other racist knobheads. He’s certainly no champion of free speech and anyone who thinks he is has a fucking screw loose imo. " This! The bloody guy pleaded for donations for his legal defence and then pled guilty . All while driving a fancy car and living in a massive house. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case Oh yeah! Straight up the middle leaning to the right lol x " Incidentally .. I think you're on the list to save in the fire | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case Oh yeah! Straight up the middle leaning to the right lol x Incidentally .. I think you're on the list to save in the fire " Oh am I? | |||
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"Ohh Troll-y Robinson dangling that hook looking for bites forced bukkake play for Tommy - let's start a facial riot haha ?? Did you find that funny, or not?" he may have an emoticon issue with the forum or it may have just been my questionable humour | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case Oh yeah! Straight up the middle leaning to the right lol x Incidentally .. I think you're on the list to save in the fire Oh am I? " Damn ... that was my outside voice wasn't it?? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case Oh yeah! Straight up the middle leaning to the right lol x Incidentally .. I think you're on the list to save in the fire Oh am I? Damn ... that was my outside voice wasn't it?? " You lied. I just burnt to death in the time it took me to pop and see who saved me! | |||
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"Yaxley Lennon the man who can’t decide what his name is never exposed anyone but people talk like he’s some hero " The guy who got done for trying to illegally enter America to do a speech about is hate for illegal immigrants | |||
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"The worst thing we ever did in this country was to let pricks like Robinson, Nick Griffin and all the others carry our flag. We should have marched on mass and took it off them, they're not worthy. " They've made the flag a symbol of hate. It needs taking back. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/19 18:35:15] I think I removed this by accident . Can’t remember what I said now Something about liking it straight up and maybe a little to the right? I was taking notes in case Oh yeah! Straight up the middle leaning to the right lol x Incidentally .. I think you're on the list to save in the fire Oh am I? Damn ... that was my outside voice wasn't it?? You lied. I just burnt to death in the time it took me to pop and see who saved me! " I was choosing my second ... | |||
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"Love how your picking fault with him but you don’t seem to have a problem with the animals he’s exsposing becuase the media won’t becuase pussys like you think it’s racist doesn’t matter what colour you are they should all be delt with the same way a bullet straight inbetween the eyes " You're a little ray of sunshine. | |||
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"I love him aswell and Katie Hopkins " | |||
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"Love how your picking fault with him but you don’t seem to have a problem with the animals he’s exsposing becuase the media won’t becuase pussys like you think it’s racist doesn’t matter what colour you are they should all be delt with the same way a bullet straight inbetween the eyes " Absolutely. And I don’t disagree with that last paragraph one bit. Did you look into and read that whole story or did you just read a newspapers take on it? For the record I don’t read news rags so am not influenced by them. | |||
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"I love him aswell and Katie Hopkins " Imagine their love child!!! Piers Morgan could be the god father | |||
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"Love how your picking fault with him but you don’t seem to have a problem with the animals he’s exsposing becuase the media won’t becuase pussys like you think it’s racist doesn’t matter what colour you are they should all be delt with the same way a bullet straight inbetween the eyes Absolutely. And I don’t disagree with that last paragraph one bit. Did you look into and read that whole story or did you just read a newspapers take on it? For the record I don’t read news rags so am not influenced by them. " I don’t listen to the news or read news papers I can’t read I do a lot on YouTube I know you can’t belive everything on the internet buts it’s better then the media | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. " | |||
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"You can't read? How do you write? " | |||
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"Love how your picking fault with him but you don’t seem to have a problem with the animals he’s exsposing becuase the media won’t becuase pussys like you think it’s racist doesn’t matter what colour you are they should all be delt with the same way a bullet straight inbetween the eyes Absolutely. And I don’t disagree with that last paragraph one bit. Did you look into and read that whole story or did you just read a newspapers take on it? For the record I don’t read news rags so am not influenced by them. I don’t listen to the news or read news papers I can’t read I do a lot on YouTube I know you can’t belive everything on the internet buts it’s better then the media " How did you read this then? | |||
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"I'm confused " I’m going back to kiss punch fuck. It’s less thinking | |||
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"If he’s such a cunt and racist why are they trying to keep his mouth shut " Maybe because he’s a cunt and a racist. Did love the video of big hard Yaxley backing away from the Asian lads and tripping over the kerb. Absolute fucking melt | |||
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"He’s a racist knobhead whose made himself quite a bit of money from other racist knobheads. He’s certainly no champion of free speech and anyone who thinks he is has a fucking screw loose imo. This! The bloody guy pleaded for donations for his legal defence and then pled guilty . All while driving a fancy car and living in a massive house." Phew! Good thing you are in here because your posts pretty much cover it along with few others. Therefore I won't need to share my thoughts. If I did the thread would have vanished... poof | |||
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"The worst thing we ever did in this country was to let pricks like Robinson, Nick Griffin and all the others carry our flag. We should have marched on mass and took it off them, they're not worthy. " Sorry but that's rubbish if the left had there way we wouldn't have a flag They are as much to blame Say your a proud Englishman - ooh your a racist Say you love your queen and country - ooh your a racist Fly the Union Jack - ooh must be a racist Play Chas and Dave on full blast - ooh must be a racist Voted out Brexit - ooh your a racist Dress up as a Morris Dancer - ooh your a racist tired of it | |||
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"Even I don't like him." Fknell ....... he must be dire. | |||
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"Someone's clearly trying to kill any chance of ever getting any action in here " He's busy deepthroating Tommy, so I don't think he really cares. | |||
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"The worst thing we ever did in this country was to let pricks like Robinson, Nick Griffin and all the others carry our flag. We should have marched on mass and took it off them, they're not worthy. Sorry but that's rubbish if the left had there way we wouldn't have a flag They are as much to blame Say your a proud Englishman - ooh your a racist Say you love your queen and country - ooh your a racist Fly the Union Jack - ooh must be a racist Play Chas and Dave on full blast - ooh must be a racist Voted out Brexit - ooh your a racist Dress up as a Morris Dancer - ooh your a racist tired of it " Nah Morris Dancers are just wronguns, deffo on the yewtree list | |||
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"The worst thing we ever did in this country was to let pricks like Robinson, Nick Griffin and all the others carry our flag. We should have marched on mass and took it off them, they're not worthy. Sorry but that's rubbish if the left had there way we wouldn't have a flag They are as much to blame Say your a proud Englishman - ooh your a racist Say you love your queen and country - ooh your a racist Fly the Union Jack - ooh must be a racist Play Chas and Dave on full blast - ooh must be a racist Voted out Brexit - ooh your a racist Dress up as a Morris Dancer - ooh your a racist tired of it Nah Morris Dancers are just wronguns, deffo on the yewtree list " | |||
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"We love you tommy we do. The bloke is a legend " OED defines legend as A notorious person, especially in a particular field OED for notorious.. Famous or well known, typically for some bad quality or deed. He certainly is. | |||
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"People will believe whatever rhetoric reflects their own agenda or opinion I think he is a patsy for a dangerously rippling undercurrent in this country He provides enough of a diversion to deflect, whilst apportioning convenient blame on others than the government (and its institutions) for the societal failings that we are now experiencing Someone, somewhere is playing a dangerous game with all of us As part of this game, he is a convenient untruth " Well said | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx " one persons "freedom of speech" is another persons "defamation law suite"...... although his little stunt last night of intimidation was petty and not going to help his case.... maybe he should take tips from katie hopkins.... oh...... maybe not!!!! | |||
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"The best bit in Tommy’s latest doc is when the BBC producer has his head in his hands when he realises that Tommy has got the Panorama journalist on tape spurting out racial and homophobic slurs." Mainstream media at its best! | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx " No he really doesn't. He wants to be able to say what he wants without consequence. Freedom of speech becomes very different when he doesn't like what is being said. | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse." it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod | |||
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"Tommeh is a loathesome cowardly piece of shit. But my god his followers are thick. How often does he ask for money? And they donate tine and tone again. Meanwhile he's living in a million pound house, driving a range rover, wearing a £10k watch and designer clothes. There's a lot of money in spreading hate just not enough to pay his own legal fees" Follow the money and it'll take you to some rather loathsome and rich individuals in the United States of America. | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod" No it was ‘New Labour’ under the neoliberal Blair that lied about WMDs to wage war. Corbyn the leader of The Labour Party voted and campaigned against that war. | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod" I didn't even mention any political party but the Tories REALLY opposed it didn't they! | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod No it was ‘New Labour’ under the neoliberal Blair that lied about WMDs to wage war. Corbyn the leader of The Labour Party voted and campaigned against that war. " The same Jermey Corbyn who campaigned aginst the neoliberal EU for the last 40 years or more, but then campaigned for remain in the referendum in 2016? The same Jermey Corbyn who said he'd respect the result of the referendum but is now pushing for a 2nd referendum? That conviction politician and man of principle Jeremy Corbyn? Yeah right. | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod No it was ‘New Labour’ under the neoliberal Blair that lied about WMDs to wage war. Corbyn the leader of The Labour Party voted and campaigned against th at war. : that old chestnut new labour lol it was labour and saint tony the labour p.m " No I can quite clearly remember it being New Labour under that rat Blair. Also keep in mind the Tories have also bombed the Middle East recently to destroy evidence before an OPCW inspection was due days later. Corbyn also opposed that and opposed the Iraq invasion. | |||
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"If he’s such a cunt and racist why are they trying to keep his mouth shut Maybe because he’s a cunt and a racist. Did love the video of big hard Yaxley backing away from the Asian lads and tripping over the kerb. Absolute fucking melt" You mean this video where its 6 against 1 and Tommy Robinson gives them a good hiding by the entrance to a McDonalds...... www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5RtDC-roI And as if 6 men against 1 isn't enough they also attempt to attack Tommy Robinson's camerawoman. Masked leftist thugs who can only attack in superior numbers and who attack females as well, cowardly bastards! | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod No it was ‘New Labour’ under the neoliberal Blair that lied about WMDs to wage war. Corbyn the leader of The Labour Party voted and campaigned against that war. The same Jermey Corbyn who campaigned aginst the neoliberal EU for the last 40 years or more, but then campaigned for remain in the referendum in 2016? The same Jermey Corbyn who said he'd respect the result of the referendum but is now pushing for a 2nd referendum? That conviction politician and man of principle Jeremy Corbyn? Yeah right. " All socialists are ideologically opppsed to neoliberalism. But Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and must consider the will of its members - and importantly he also understands that there are other powers that are more neoliberal than the EU who would use our departure to insert themselves into the UK and effectively dictate policy. There needs to be some pragmatism used as such and thankfully he is wise enough to know that. | |||
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"And some single guys wonder why they can’t get meets on this site. Just saying!! Over 100 meet in person verifications on my profile. Just saying! thank fuck it was you she was having a go at lol....thought she'd thrown a dagger at me for some reason. Yeah i dare say when guys try to get meets they don't wear their 'free tommy robinson' t.shirts.... takes the horn off a girl faster than lengthy nostril hair probably How do you know it was the female half of the couple commenting? And there are plenty of women out there in the country who support Tommy Robinson. " Yes but whose interested in women with 12 toes and webbed feet? | |||
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"And some single guys wonder why they can’t get meets on this site. Just saying!! Over 100 meet in person verifications on my profile. Just saying! thank fuck it was you she was having a go at lol....thought she'd thrown a dagger at me for some reason. Yeah i dare say when guys try to get meets they don't wear their 'free tommy robinson' t.shirts.... takes the horn off a girl faster than lengthy nostril hair probably How do you know it was the female half of the couple commenting? And there are plenty of women out there in the country who support Tommy Robinson. Yes but whose interested in women with 12 toes and webbed feet? " Not sure is that why Isis cover their women up with burkas? | |||
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"And some single guys wonder why they can’t get meets on this site. Just saying!! Over 100 meet in person verifications on my profile. Just saying! thank fuck it was you she was having a go at lol....thought she'd thrown a dagger at me for some reason. Yeah i dare say when guys try to get meets they don't wear their 'free tommy robinson' t.shirts.... takes the horn off a girl faster than lengthy nostril hair probably How do you know it was the female half of the couple commenting? And there are plenty of women out there in the country who support Tommy Robinson. " Amazing, you've identified that women can be racist too. In fairness, those who shout the loudest and most vile hate is nearly always men. | |||
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"And some single guys wonder why they can’t get meets on this site. Just saying!! Over 100 meet in person verifications on my profile. Just saying! thank fuck it was you she was having a go at lol....thought she'd thrown a dagger at me for some reason. Yeah i dare say when guys try to get meets they don't wear their 'free tommy robinson' t.shirts.... takes the horn off a girl faster than lengthy nostril hair probably How do you know it was the female half of the couple commenting? And there are plenty of women out there in the country who support Tommy Robinson. Yes but whose interested in women with 12 toes and webbed feet? Not sure is that why Isis cover their women up with burkas? " Are you saying ISIS women are fans of Tommeh? | |||
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"And some single guys wonder why they can’t get meets on this site. Just saying!! Over 100 meet in person verifications on my profile. Just saying! thank fuck it was you she was having a go at lol....thought she'd thrown a dagger at me for some reason. Yeah i dare say when guys try to get meets they don't wear their 'free tommy robinson' t.shirts.... takes the horn off a girl faster than lengthy nostril hair probably How do you know it was the female half of the couple commenting? And there are plenty of women out there in the country who support Tommy Robinson. Yes but whose interested in women with 12 toes and webbed feet? Not sure is that why Isis cover their women up with burkas? Are you saying ISIS women are fans of Tommeh? " No I was asking if they wear burkas to cover up their 12 toes and webbed feet | |||
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"He fights for freedom of speech witch we all excerise in here so what’s the issue? Mrscxxx Freedom of hate speech you mean. That maybe so I’m not a follower I don’t particularly like him but he is fighting for freedom of speech what I don’t like is how he horribly he speaks of ethnic minorties I hate racism Mrscxxx He doesn't though. He speaks about Islam, that's a religion, not an ethnic minority. And it is an issue. Islam is not a religion it’s a way of life though " He is a hate speaker! Of course Islam is a religion, do some basic research | |||
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"And some single guys wonder why they can’t get meets on this site. Just saying!! Over 100 meet in person verifications on my profile. Just saying! thank fuck it was you she was having a go at lol....thought she'd thrown a dagger at me for some reason. Yeah i dare say when guys try to get meets they don't wear their 'free tommy robinson' t.shirts.... takes the horn off a girl faster than lengthy nostril hair probably How do you know it was the female half of the couple commenting? And there are plenty of women out there in the country who support Tommy Robinson. Yes but whose interested in women with 12 toes and webbed feet? Not sure is that why Isis cover their women up with burkas? Are you saying ISIS women are fans of Tommeh? No I was asking if they wear burkas to cover up their 12 toes and webbed feet " I know, I was just taking the piss as you’re a fan of false dichotomies and logical fallacy | |||
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"I'm not a Tommy supporter, neither am I blind to the way mainstream media reports from a sometimes biased or controlled viewpoint. The panorama piece that was referred to highlighted the hypocrisy of it all. If politicians actually listened to everyday people's problems, addressed sensitive issues with common sense and fairness. There wouldn't be a need for people like Tommy. I take people as they are to me and I'm lucky to live in a beautiful part of this country that isn't really affected by most issues regarding race, culture and religion. That doesn't mean to say that as a father I'm not worried that people like Tommy are appealing to so many people and the panorama debacle makes a complete mockery of our so called reliable news sources. So we trust the Murdoch machine for our news? " Ah maybe you can answer where Tommy Tommy got his degree in Journalism ? | |||
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"Does he need one? Whichever side of the fence you are, the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear. So we label him right wing and shut him down? How does that solve anything? Surely the discussion needs to be had? Isn't ignoring the issue what's caused the surge in far right support throughout Europe? " Interesting thoughts. So because a vile person shouts then we should listen? The problem with social media is that because a few people are interested in him, then we should all be? The silent majority don’t use social media, just because it is noisy doesn’t mean it has majority support... | |||
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"Race hate? Sometimes you've got to make yr own mind up and not listen to what yr told. I like many used to accept programmes such as panorama we're above the tactics and behaviour shown recently. An ex soldier friend of mine told me about the demos they faced when bringing home lost friends. Those demos we're what created the force that is Tommy Robinson today. I don't think ignoring him or his followers is going to have anything but a negative effect. " He is still an unpleasant, self interested thug, who should be in prison for inciting hatred | |||
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"Race hate? Sometimes you've got to make yr own mind up and not listen to what yr told. I like many used to accept programmes such as panorama we're above the tactics and behaviour shown recently. An ex soldier friend of mine told me about the demos they faced when bringing home lost friends. Those demos we're what created the force that is Tommy Robinson today. I don't think ignoring him or his followers is going to have anything but a negative effect. " Are you sure it was that ? Did it not have something to do with 1 of his best friends turning to Islam & then 1 of his relatives marrying a muslim chap ? I know his hatredb of Islam grew more with the troops in Luton which many were repulsed by , but didnt feel the need to turn on every Muslim in the world. I didnt see any of the Football Lads or the DFL ( splitters) At Crewe Alexandra or Man City or any of the other football clubs who allowed Barry Bennell to do his vile stuff. Not seen them outside to many Catholic Churches either. | |||
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"He's a massive cunt who shouldn't be given the coverage he does, vile disgusting person. Another mainstream newspaper reader and believer! Whether you support him or not, ignoring him and the many he represents is only leading to bigger problems. It's an unpleasant conversion but it's a conversation that needs to be had. Got to love how his supports think that anyone who dislikes him has been brainwashed by the media. The Daily Mail has been pedalling the same vile messages as him for years. It's us lefties who have been insisting there's a media conspiracy to turn us all against each other and convince us that the poor, immigrants and Muslims are to blame for all our problems so the 1% can continue to quietly hoard the majority of our countries wealth assisted by the government who keep us all fighting at the bottom for the scraps that are left. The same government who created ISIS in the first place by bombing countries in the middle East in order to steal their oil using false claims of weapons on mass destruction as an excuse. it wasnt this goverment who used dodgy evidence to bomb the middle east for there oil i think you will find that was labour. just for the record i think tommy robinson i a big a bellend as anjem choudrey.there supporters may not like it but they are two peas in a pod No it was ‘New Labour’ under the neoliberal Blair that lied about WMDs to wage war. Corbyn the leader of The Labour Party voted and campaigned against th at war. : that old chestnut new labour lol it was labour and saint tony the labour p.m No I can quite clearly remember it being New Labour under that rat Blair. Also keep in mind the Tories have also bombed the Middle East recently to destroy evidence before an OPCW inspection was due days later. Corbyn also opposed that and opposed the Iraq invasion. " yea labour with the labour p.m tony blair | |||
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"Does he need one? Whichever side of the fence you are, the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear. So we label him right wing and shut him down? How does that solve anything? Surely the discussion needs to be had? Isn't ignoring the issue what's caused the surge in far right support throughout Europe? " I’ve read your other comments and I know you’re not a fan of Tommy, but I’m just replying to this one as I’d like to continue on with what you said here. “the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear” I can understand completely why you might have come to that conclusion but respectfully, I think you are not considering some other important factors. It’s a long established tactic used in democracies, to incite anger for the reason that angry people are the easiest to manipulate. Tommy is really a tool of the right wing establishment. They need people like him to shout and make noise and wind people up. The whole foundation on which he pushes his and the establishment agenda from is false though. It accepts or assumes certain concepts or notions which are untrue or irrelevant to the problems they try to piggy back them onto. To explain what I mean there - there is an acceptance by so many that the problems they or the country is facing stem from, for example - migrants, certain religions; and this idea the establishment are tolerating this at the native Brit’s expense. As Tommy is in reality a mouth piece for the establishment this is quite ironic, but that’s not my point here. It is that we should take care to make sure our foundation of understand or knowledge is solid before we move into the next step of what to do in response. This care is simply not being taken by so many. They automatically take for granted that migrants for example are the reason for their woes and move on to hating and being angry with those groups. This is why they’re coming unstuck. They should ask themselves who put it into their heads in the first place that this is the root cause of their issues. The mainstream media have been pushing this anti-migrant, anti-Muslim theme for so long, that it becomes accepted by so many without the proper determination of whether it is true - and if it’s not, what could the media be up to. Now I’d like to say here that these people who support Tommy and are complaining about the issues they are facing in life are not crazy. They are up against it. They do deserve better than this and things have been hard for a long time. But while they are facing real struggles in life and absolutely deserve something better - they are incorrectly attributing the problems they face to the wrong party or people. It is not the migrants or Muslims that have created the issues in their lives. But the bombardment of propaganda every day from all over the mainstream in all of its forms, suggesting that it is those groups is taking its toll on them. With that level of manipulation from the corporate media, some are simply going to believe where there is no smoke without fire or similar. It’s a massive mistake on their part in this case and sets them up for a fall. The troubles they are facing, in terms of prospects or lack thereof, to their quality of life and to what they see around them, is really the fault, ironically of the very people who are selling them the myth that it is foreigners or Muslims or whoever else. It is the establishment and the corporations which are shitting on us. Neoliberalism is the genuine reason why they’ve been left behind. Why their communities are breaking down and people are up against it. But of course they can’t admit this. They have to have a patsy - a fall guy. And the sneaky fuckers that they are with their wealth and power can kill two birds (or more) with one stone. They can ramp up the racism and hate when necessary to push people into voting against their own interests and in the interests of the elite. This self perpetuates the problems that these people were already facing though because in reality, it is the elite that are causing their problems. So people like Tommy Robinson who is just an angry little man with a chip on his shoulder are quite useful at certain times for them. He’s a professional shit stirrer and he makes a lot of money out of it to boot. This isn’t to say that some of the specific incidents the far right might grab hold of and push into the spotlight are not true. But these are tried, tested and perfected techniques of propaganda and manipulation - the framing of issues beyond their worth. There are hundreds of thousands of us being killed every 2 - 3 years as a result of ideological austerity cuts from this right wing government. This has been well documented. It dwarfs the issues that Tommy is constantly raising. But while people are caught up with that, they aren’t tackling the real causes of their problems - and for all those genuine patriots who naively follow him, they are abandoning their countrymen who are being slain at a rate of a 100 a day! Tommy is simply an right wing establishment tool. A lever to get them voting how they require to maintain the status quo for them. Apologies for the long post here. | |||
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"Does he need one? Whichever side of the fence you are, the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear. So we label him right wing and shut him down? How does that solve anything? Surely the discussion needs to be had? Isn't ignoring the issue what's caused the surge in far right support throughout Europe? I’ve read your other comments and I know you’re not a fan of Tommy, but I’m just replying to this one as I’d like to continue on with what you said here. “the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear” I can understand completely why you might have come to that conclusion but respectfully, I think you are not considering some other important factors. It’s a long established tactic used in democracies, to incite anger for the reason that angry people are the easiest to manipulate. Tommy is really a tool of the right wing establishment. They need people like him to shout and make noise and wind people up. The whole foundation on which he pushes his and the establishment agenda from is false though. It accepts or assumes certain concepts or notions which are untrue or irrelevant to the problems they try to piggy back them onto. To explain what I mean there - there is an acceptance by so many that the problems they or the country is facing stem from, for example - migrants, certain religions; and this idea the establishment are tolerating this at the native Brit’s expense. As Tommy is in reality a mouth piece for the establishment this is quite ironic, but that’s not my point here. It is that we should take care to make sure our foundation of understand or knowledge is solid before we move into the next step of what to do in response. This care is simply not being taken by so many. They automatically take for granted that migrants for example are the reason for their woes and move on to hating and being angry with those groups. This is why they’re coming unstuck. They should ask themselves who put it into their heads in the first place that this is the root cause of their issues. The mainstream media have been pushing this anti-migrant, anti-Muslim theme for so long, that it becomes accepted by so many without the proper determination of whether it is true - and if it’s not, what could the media be up to. Now I’d like to say here that these people who support Tommy and are complaining about the issues they are facing in life are not crazy. They are up against it. They do deserve better than this and things have been hard for a long time. But while they are facing real struggles in life and absolutely deserve something better - they are incorrectly attributing the problems they face to the wrong party or people. It is not the migrants or Muslims that have created the issues in their lives. But the bombardment of propaganda every day from all over the mainstream in all of its forms, suggesting that it is those groups is taking its toll on them. With that level of manipulation from the corporate media, some are simply going to believe where there is no smoke without fire or similar. It’s a massive mistake on their part in this case and sets them up for a fall. The troubles they are facing, in terms of prospects or lack thereof, to their quality of life and to what they see around them, is really the fault, ironically of the very people who are selling them the myth that it is foreigners or Muslims or whoever else. It is the establishment and the corporations which are shitting on us. Neoliberalism is the genuine reason why they’ve been left behind. Why their communities are breaking down and people are up against it. But of course they can’t admit this. They have to have a patsy - a fall guy. And the sneaky fuckers that they are with their wealth and power can kill two birds (or more) with one stone. They can ramp up the racism and hate when necessary to push people into voting against their own interests and in the interests of the elite. This self perpetuates the problems that these people were already facing though because in reality, it is the elite that are causing their problems. So people like Tommy Robinson who is just an angry little man with a chip on his shoulder are quite useful at certain times for them. He’s a professional shit stirrer and he makes a lot of money out of it to boot. This isn’t to say that some of the specific incidents the far right might grab hold of and push into the spotlight are not true. But these are tried, tested and perfected techniques of propaganda and manipulation - the framing of issues beyond their worth. There are hundreds of thousands of us being killed every 2 - 3 years as a result of ideological austerity cuts from this right wing government. This has been well documented. It dwarfs the issues that Tommy is constantly raising. But while people are caught up with that, they aren’t tackling the real causes of their problems - and for all those genuine patriots who naively follow him, they are abandoning their countrymen who are being slain at a rate of a 100 a day! Tommy is simply an right wing establishment tool. A lever to get them voting how they require to maintain the status quo for them. Apologies for the long post here. " __________________________________ A decent post , but id like to take it a step or 2 further, For sometime now there has been a push to incite hatred , Governments around the world have lost the ability to control the people , we ( the people) have no fear anymore, we run up debt & can get away with not repaying it with no risk of being sent to jail Banks are losing money hand over fist , Internet shopping has wiped out huge amounts of tax revenue , as has globalisation . Hatred is the 1st step in creating the correct conditions for a long drawn out war where people will begin to feel fear again, the Powers that be will slowly regain control & the world will be an easier place to live again. * * Thats what they think anyway. * * As you have said , In the mean time real problems will get ignored & honestly who cares if a few million around the world die through starvation ? Yes we will throw a few quid there way as some celeb gets on telly & starts a fund raiser , but really weve seen it all before. I may be quite wrong , but i have a feeling its not far away. | |||
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"Does he need one? Whichever side of the fence you are, the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear. So we label him right wing and shut him down? How does that solve anything? Surely the discussion needs to be had? Isn't ignoring the issue what's caused the surge in far right support throughout Europe? I’ve read your other comments and I know you’re not a fan of Tommy, but I’m just replying to this one as I’d like to continue on with what you said here. “the fact that he's got so much support should surely mean he's saying what some people need to hear” I can understand completely why you might have come to that conclusion but respectfully, I think you are not considering some other important factors. It’s a long established tactic used in democracies, to incite anger for the reason that angry people are the easiest to manipulate. Tommy is really a tool of the right wing establishment. They need people like him to shout and make noise and wind people up. The whole foundation on which he pushes his and the establishment agenda from is false though. It accepts or assumes certain concepts or notions which are untrue or irrelevant to the problems they try to piggy back them onto. To explain what I mean there - there is an acceptance by so many that the problems they or the country is facing stem from, for example - migrants, certain religions; and this idea the establishment are tolerating this at the native Brit’s expense. As Tommy is in reality a mouth piece for the establishment this is quite ironic, but that’s not my point here. It is that we should take care to make sure our foundation of understand or knowledge is solid before we move into the next step of what to do in response. This care is simply not being taken by so many. They automatically take for granted that migrants for example are the reason for their woes and move on to hating and being angry with those groups. This is why they’re coming unstuck. They should ask themselves who put it into their heads in the first place that this is the root cause of their issues. The mainstream media have been pushing this anti-migrant, anti-Muslim theme for so long, that it becomes accepted by so many without the proper determination of whether it is true - and if it’s not, what could the media be up to. Now I’d like to say here that these people who support Tommy and are complaining about the issues they are facing in life are not crazy. They are up against it. They do deserve better than this and things have been hard for a long time. But while they are facing real struggles in life and absolutely deserve something better - they are incorrectly attributing the problems they face to the wrong party or people. It is not the migrants or Muslims that have created the issues in their lives. But the bombardment of propaganda every day from all over the mainstream in all of its forms, suggesting that it is those groups is taking its toll on them. With that level of manipulation from the corporate media, some are simply going to believe where there is no smoke without fire or similar. It’s a massive mistake on their part in this case and sets them up for a fall. The troubles they are facing, in terms of prospects or lack thereof, to their quality of life and to what they see around them, is really the fault, ironically of the very people who are selling them the myth that it is foreigners or Muslims or whoever else. It is the establishment and the corporations which are shitting on us. Neoliberalism is the genuine reason why they’ve been left behind. Why their communities are breaking down and people are up against it. But of course they can’t admit this. They have to have a patsy - a fall guy. And the sneaky fuckers that they are with their wealth and power can kill two birds (or more) with one stone. They can ramp up the racism and hate when necessary to push people into voting against their own interests and in the interests of the elite. This self perpetuates the problems that these people were already facing though because in reality, it is the elite that are causing their problems. So people like Tommy Robinson who is just an angry little man with a chip on his shoulder are quite useful at certain times for them. He’s a professional shit stirrer and he makes a lot of money out of it to boot. This isn’t to say that some of the specific incidents the far right might grab hold of and push into the spotlight are not true. But these are tried, tested and perfected techniques of propaganda and manipulation - the framing of issues beyond their worth. There are hundreds of thousands of us being killed every 2 - 3 years as a result of ideological austerity cuts from this right wing government. This has been well documented. It dwarfs the issues that Tommy is constantly raising. But while people are caught up with that, they aren’t tackling the real causes of their problems - and for all those genuine patriots who naively follow him, they are abandoning their countrymen who are being slain at a rate of a 100 a day! Tommy is simply an right wing establishment tool. A lever to get them voting how they require to maintain the status quo for them. Apologies for the long post here. __________________________________ A decent post , but id like to take it a step or 2 further, For sometime now there has been a push to incite hatred , Governments around the world have lost the ability to control the people , we ( the people) have no fear anymore, we run up debt & can get away with not repaying it with no risk of being sent to jail Banks are losing money hand over fist , Internet shopping has wiped out huge amounts of tax revenue , as has globalisation . Hatred is the 1st step in creating the correct conditions for a long drawn out war where people will begin to feel fear again, the Powers that be will slowly regain control & the world will be an easier place to live again. * * Thats what they think anyway. * * As you have said , In the mean time real problems will get ignored & honestly who cares if a few million around the world die through starvation ? Yes we will throw a few quid there way as some celeb gets on telly & starts a fund raiser , but really weve seen it all before. I may be quite wrong , but i have a feeling its not far away." Celebs may be less inclined to get on telly to endorse a fund raiser after the twatish Labour MP David Lammy decided to criticise Stacey Dooley and Comic relief for doing so. | |||
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"For every David Lammy there are a thousand Bob geldofs in this world. Welk thankfully there arent but you get the gist. " good help us if there is ones bad enough | |||
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