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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

So the news has now said that Jeremy Corbyn thinks the Home Secretary was wrong to rescind the nationality of that nasty piece of work Shamima Begum .

He wants her to be able to come back and get help .

Once again , from a Tory who is disappointed in the Tory party , thanks Jeremy for reaffirming why I would never vote for you .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the news has now said that Jeremy Corbyn thinks the Home Secretary was wrong to rescind the nationality of that nasty piece of work Shamima Begum .

He wants her to be able to come back and get help .

Once again , from a Tory who is disappointed in the Tory party , thanks Jeremy for reaffirming why I would never vote for you ."

It's a political stunt by the home sec : 200 estimated fighters of isis are back here.

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By *wosmilersCouple
over a year ago

Heathrowish

While I really despise Corbyn and also would have lost no sleep at all if Begum has been buried in a pit somewhere, should we not be taking our responsibilities seriously by prosecuting her and restricting her mobility rather than washing our hands and saying it it someone else's problem, be that Bangladesh, Turkey or the Netherlands?

I do have serious concerns that we should not be relying on these 'lesser' states to sort out our problem children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He just can’t help putting his foot in it can he ? I cannot see the average labour voter being happy about that

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"While I really despise Corbyn and also would have lost no sleep at all if Begum has been buried in a pit somewhere, should we not be taking our responsibilities seriously by prosecuting her and restricting her mobility rather than washing our hands and saying it it someone else's problem, be that Bangladesh, Turkey or the Netherlands?

I do have serious concerns that we should not be relying on these 'lesser' states to sort out our problem children."

That’s a fair point

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"He just can’t help putting his foot in it can he ? I cannot see the average labour voter being happy about that "

This is my point , the man is clueless

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"So the news has now said that Jeremy Corbyn thinks the Home Secretary was wrong to rescind the nationality of that nasty piece of work Shamima Begum .

He wants her to be able to come back and get help .

Once again , from a Tory who is disappointed in the Tory party , thanks Jeremy for reaffirming why I would never vote for you .

It's a political stunt by the home sec : 200 estimated fighters of isis are back here. "

I’m guessing they just quietly slipped back in .

She brazenly admitted she didn’t regret anything ( until yesterday’s press conference ) and only wants to come back because isis are fucked !

She is in the perfect position to radicalise more British people . If there’s a way to show other potential people like her that it’s not acceptable , then we should be doing just that .

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Typical Tory thread .

Moan about some stupid little girl somewhere .

All the while deflecting away from the Real Mess the UK is facing because the Tory party has taken us out of Europe & well on the way to Rack & Ruin.

Keep blaming the Left who are not in power , ignoring the wrongs of those on the Right who are.

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Typical Tory thread .

Moan about some stupid little girl somewhere .

All the while deflecting away from the Real Mess the UK is facing because the Tory party has taken us out of Europe & well on the way to Rack & Ruin.

Keep blaming the Left who are not in power , ignoring the wrongs of those on the Right who are."

The tories are doing what we as a nation voted to do !

It wasn’t them that wanted us to leave if you care to recall . So much so that Cameron said he would resign if we said we wanted to leave , and he did .

One of the most pro leave over the years was Corbyn !

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

He announced this days ago.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Funnily enough the Home Secretary's own published Home Office guidance on this subject says he is wrong. (It even gives an example that is uncannily like this girls case). Now will those that are attacking JC now attack the Home Secretary for having left some 800+ back into the country already following his own guidance?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd expect government to obey laws - and leaving someone stateless appears to be illegal.

I don't know what she may need - I assume that at a minimum, she would be interviewed by police, potentially for connection to any terrorism offenses that she may have made. I've not read Corbyn's statement but generally I'm in agreement that as a UK citizen she should face appropriate justice here - as well as receive any support that she is due. If a UK citizen is jailed in the UK, their family and friends would be able to visit them in the UK, rather than having a reason to visit them overseas.

The government need to provide appropriate role models for its citizens and following laws is an absolute essential requirement.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

This knee jerk reaction is foolish, will probably be costly and will deepen divisions in our society.

The baying mob want blood, they are the modern day witch dunkers and the Home Secretary has probably just breached this woman’s human rights by making her stateless. When she eventually wins the right to return, by then she will have won compensation for her breach of human rights and the baying mobs will feel even more agitated.

All because The Home Secretary acted like an amateur diplomat and failed to investigate matters thoroughly before he made his decision. How could anyone with eventhe slightest understanding of politics think that Bangladesh would just take her despite having no rightsof residence there - ever - and having the profile that she has got.

The people holding High Office in this Govt are systematically messing up on an almost weekly basis.

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex


"Typical Tory thread .

Moan about some stupid little girl somewhere .

All the while deflecting away from the Real Mess the UK is facing because the Tory party has taken us out of Europe & well on the way to Rack & Ruin.

Keep blaming the Left who are not in power , ignoring the wrongs of those on the Right who are.

The tories are doing what we as a nation voted to do !

It wasn’t them that wanted us to leave if you care to recall . So much so that Cameron said he would resign if we said we wanted to leave , and he did .

One of the most pro leave over the years was Corbyn !

"

Yup , We know who to blame already .

Cameron the Tory lost his Bottle

May the Tory lost her Head

The rest of us will suffer.

Yet lets all blame Corbyn & Labour for the mess the Country finds itself in.

F*ck me the stupidity knows no bounds .

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"

One of the most pro leave over the years was Corbyn !

"

Corbyn is at best a reluctant remainder. But 'one of the most pro leave'? So he's been on the same level as the likes of Farage, Gove, Johnson et al, has he?

Don't talk utter shite.

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By *wosmilersCouple
over a year ago

Heathrowish


"

One of the most pro leave over the years was Corbyn !

Corbyn is at best a reluctant remainder. But 'one of the most pro leave'? So he's been on the same level as the likes of Farage, Gove, Johnson et al, has he?

Don't talk utter shite. "

Depends what decade he is referring to.....

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Funnily enough the Home Secretary's own published Home Office guidance on this subject says he is wrong. (It even gives an example that is uncannily like this girls case). Now will those that are attacking JC now attack the Home Secretary for having left some 800+ back into the country already following his own guidance?"

Haven't heard that. Heard it is qualified through threat to public, other nationality, no remorse, etc

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Tarka trail

J.C. is reaching out to the block voters.

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"

One of the most pro leave over the years was Corbyn !

Corbyn is at best a reluctant remainder. But 'one of the most pro leave'? So he's been on the same level as the likes of Farage, Gove, Johnson et al, has he?

Don't talk utter shite. "

I don’t even need to reply to such an unnecessarily hostile post like this , but I will .

Corbyn has been anti EU since 1975 as his voting record will show . Check it out , then kindly come back and apologise .

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"This knee jerk reaction is foolish, will probably be costly and will deepen divisions in our society.

.

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The people holding High Office in this Govt are systematically messing up on an almost weekly basis."

Knee jerk like MP's should stand in by-elections and deputy leader Watson saying that was knee jerk? Next saying they should be welcomed back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home"

You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home"

Today is the 30th anniversary of the murder of Aidan McAnespie ,

Who was shot in the back by a British Soldier , while on his way to play a game of G.A.A Football

"You dare to call me a terrorist

While you look down your Gun".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up."

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The righties would rather be told by javid that I tried to get her kicked out but the judicial system betrayed the people with their "Rule of law".Than listen to cotbyn who understands the the rule law in this country and says it how it is..

Lemons..

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you"

And your opinions are completely wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you And your opinions are completely wrong. "

If I were you, I'd look up the word Opinion in a dictionary.

Nobody's opinion is wrong actually

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you"

Amazing how can come to your conclusions from meeting Adams & Sinn Fein, & yet Colin Parry can come to very different conclusions & He Had His son killed by an IRA bomb .

But then having met him & read your posts i can see why

Colin Parry is the bigger better MAN.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you And your opinions are completely wrong.

If I were you, I'd look up the word Opinion in a dictionary.

Nobody's opinion is wrong actually"

You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to what you can argue for.

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

If you have a mind & a voice you have the entitlement to an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you have a mind & a voice you have the entitlement to an opinion.

"

This leads to false equivalence between experts and non experts.

Is the opinion of guy who says the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese to be considered valid because "I can say whatever I like and I'm entitled t my opinion ".

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"

The righties would rather be told by javid that I tried to get her kicked out but the judicial system betrayed the people with their "Rule of law".Than listen to cotbyn who understands the the rule law in this country and says it how it is..

Lemons.. "

Just a shame there's a bullying culture along with antiSemitism in his party.

And has been for years and years.

Bobb kicks sand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The righties would rather be told by javid that I tried to get her kicked out but the judicial system betrayed the people with their "Rule of law".Than listen to cotbyn who understands the the rule law in this country and says it how it is..

Lemons..

Just a shame there's a bullying culture along with antiSemitism in his party.

And has been for years and years.

Bobb kicks sand.

"

Well ....

I am on the beach ..

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"

The righties would rather be told by javid that I tried to get her kicked out but the judicial system betrayed the people with their "Rule of law".Than listen to cotbyn who understands the the rule law in this country and says it how it is..

Lemons..

Just a shame there's a bullying culture along with antiSemitism in his party.

And has been for years and years.

Bobb kicks sand.

Well ....

I am on the beach .. "

Are you on day release?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The righties would rather be told by javid that I tried to get her kicked out but the judicial system betrayed the people with their "Rule of law".Than listen to cotbyn who understands the the rule law in this country and says it how it is..

Lemons..

Just a shame there's a bullying culture along with antiSemitism in his party.

And has been for years and years.

Bobb kicks sand.

Well ....

I am on the beach ..

Are you on day release?"

Do you need a hug..

Come on big fella I've lotta of luv to give..

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you And your opinions are completely wrong.

If I were you, I'd look up the word Opinion in a dictionary.

Nobody's opinion is wrong actually"

I understand the word opinion far better than you do and yes opinions can be wrong, some opinions on something are proven to be wrong and others are proved correct no matter what the subject matter.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you"

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"So the news has now said that Jeremy Corbyn thinks the Home Secretary was wrong to rescind the nationality of that nasty piece of work Shamima Begum .

He wants her to be able to come back and get help .

Once again , from a Tory who is disappointed in the Tory party , thanks Jeremy for reaffirming why I would never vote for you ."

I am very uncomfortable about this woman being made stateless.

Her behaviour etc is beyond belief

and I can find no excuse.

One part wants me to tell her to sod off and you have made your bed but we are supposed to be better and more civilised.

Bring her home put her in prison until you have made a case against her.

Her Dad needs locking up too.

I haven't gone soft and on some days I make Genghis Khan look reasonable but we must be better than these loons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?"

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ? "

This country is full of hate mongers already. Sure we’d not notice one more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ? "

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing."

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service.. "

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?"

Wait for it .......

Brexit ?

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

Wait for it .......

Brexit ?

"

Oh the democratic vote Brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service "

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers. "

Yes you are right but I have never seen a ukipper behead some one or try and commit genocide.

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers. "

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then "

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities. "

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities. "

I am sorry but the days when you could freely express yourself have gone.

Some sections of the loony fringe are perpetually offended and when they do they really become a nasty piece of work

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone."

Facts such as these don’t seem to matter to some though do they ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service "

You can't live your life in fear ,there are thousands in this country who support some sort of terrorism.

Live your life and let the security services take care of it.I dont lose sleep over pedos or terrorism...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone."

The only way you could be this ignorant of the Middle East, both recent and historical is through choice. 20 minutes research would show you how grossly inaccurate your post is.

For example Bin Laden was from Saudi, and then hid in Packistan. The west didn’t invade either of those countries. In fact we sell a shit ton of arms to the Saudis who drop them on schools in the Yemen.

911 wasn’t the start of the problems.

Rome invaded the Middle East over 2000 years ago.

I could go on, but I suspect it’s pointless and that you don’t want to understand the complexities of the situation.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

Facts such as these don’t seem to matter to some though do they ? "

Your not wrong there.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

The only way you could be this ignorant of the Middle East, both recent and historical is through choice. 20 minutes research would show you how grossly inaccurate your post is.

For example Bin Laden was from Saudi, and then hid in Packistan. The west didn’t invade either of those countries. In fact we sell a shit ton of arms to the Saudis who drop them on schools in the Yemen.

911 wasn’t the start of the problems.

Rome invaded the Middle East over 2000 years ago.

I could go on, but I suspect it’s pointless and that you don’t want to understand the complexities of the situation."

Again your wrong.

He went to Afghan first and was finally caught in Pakistan.

His family disowned him but not before Bush flew his family out of the US back to Saudi.

Now there is a tollerent society lol.

30 seconds of research will show that they have been knocking ten bells out of each other for thousands of years but only you would be so ignorant.

Now we get to the crux of the matter you only mentioned Rome and not other invaders or conquerors like Khan, Mohamed and another nasty piece of work who murdered and enslaved 90 million people in the Middle East, Africa and right up to the now Italian, German border.

Could you be a closet racist.

At least you didn't mention its the British Empire fault.

Yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

The only way you could be this ignorant of the Middle East, both recent and historical is through choice. 20 minutes research would show you how grossly inaccurate your post is.

For example Bin Laden was from Saudi, and then hid in Packistan. The west didn’t invade either of those countries. In fact we sell a shit ton of arms to the Saudis who drop them on schools in the Yemen.

911 wasn’t the start of the problems.

Rome invaded the Middle East over 2000 years ago.

I could go on, but I suspect it’s pointless and that you don’t want to understand the complexities of the situation.

Again your wrong.

He went to Afghan first and was finally caught in Pakistan.

His family disowned him but not before Bush flew his family out of the US back to Saudi.

Now there is a tollerent society lol.

30 seconds of research will show that they have been knocking ten bells out of each other for thousands of years but only you would be so ignorant.

Now we get to the crux of the matter you only mentioned Rome and not other invaders or conquerors like Khan, Mohamed and another nasty piece of work who murdered and enslaved 90 million people in the Middle East, Africa and right up to the now Italian, German border.

Could you be a closet racist.

At least you didn't mention its the British Empire fault.

Yet

"

Blimey, the confusion and misdirected rage of the far right is something to behold at times.

I just come here to make fun of poorly informed people with very strong opinions. You make it fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home

Today is the 30th anniversary of the murder of Aidan McAnespie ,

Who was shot in the back by a British Soldier , while on his way to play a game of G.A.A Football

"You dare to call me a terrorist

While you look down your Gun".

"

Oh ffs, and the IRA didn't do the same shoot at a soldier fair enough, woman and children being bombed, that's OK then??

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

The only way you could be this ignorant of the Middle East, both recent and historical is through choice. 20 minutes research would show you how grossly inaccurate your post is.

For example Bin Laden was from Saudi, and then hid in Packistan. The west didn’t invade either of those countries. In fact we sell a shit ton of arms to the Saudis who drop them on schools in the Yemen.

911 wasn’t the start of the problems.

Rome invaded the Middle East over 2000 years ago.

I could go on, but I suspect it’s pointless and that you don’t want to understand the complexities of the situation.

Again your wrong.

He went to Afghan first and was finally caught in Pakistan.

His family disowned him but not before Bush flew his family out of the US back to Saudi.

Now there is a tollerent society lol.

30 seconds of research will show that they have been knocking ten bells out of each other for thousands of years but only you would be so ignorant.

Now we get to the crux of the matter you only mentioned Rome and not other invaders or conquerors like Khan, Mohamed and another nasty piece of work who murdered and enslaved 90 million people in the Middle East, Africa and right up to the now Italian, German border.

Could you be a closet racist.

At least you didn't mention its the British Empire fault.

Yet

Blimey, the confusion and misdirected rage of the far right is something to behold at times.

I just come here to make fun of poorly informed people with very strong opinions. You make it fun."

I see you didn't deny your a racist.

Yes you've got to remember the working class in the Country as the BBC reporter called us are Canables or as you have said poorly informed.

You are as funny as Little and Large on a good day but everyone on here can see that.

Nite nite

Don't let those right wingers bite

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

It will go to court. The UK government will lose the case in a UK court. The country will once again be embarrassed and ultimately she will come here to face the law.

This was a populist move by a government who would eat it's own shite if it though it could win a Brexit vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

The only way you could be this ignorant of the Middle East, both recent and historical is through choice. 20 minutes research would show you how grossly inaccurate your post is.

For example Bin Laden was from Saudi, and then hid in Packistan. The west didn’t invade either of those countries. In fact we sell a shit ton of arms to the Saudis who drop them on schools in the Yemen.

911 wasn’t the start of the problems.

Rome invaded the Middle East over 2000 years ago.

I could go on, but I suspect it’s pointless and that you don’t want to understand the complexities of the situation.

Again your wrong.

He went to Afghan first and was finally caught in Pakistan.

His family disowned him but not before Bush flew his family out of the US back to Saudi.

Now there is a tollerent society lol.

30 seconds of research will show that they have been knocking ten bells out of each other for thousands of years but only you would be so ignorant.

Now we get to the crux of the matter you only mentioned Rome and not other invaders or conquerors like Khan, Mohamed and another nasty piece of work who murdered and enslaved 90 million people in the Middle East, Africa and right up to the now Italian, German border.

Could you be a closet racist.

At least you didn't mention its the British Empire fault.

Yet

Blimey, the confusion and misdirected rage of the far right is something to behold at times.

I just come here to make fun of poorly informed people with very strong opinions. You make it fun.

I see you didn't deny your a racist.

Yes you've got to remember the working class in the Country as the BBC reporter called us are Canables or as you have said poorly informed.

You are as funny as Little and Large on a good day but everyone on here can see that.

Nite nite

Don't let those right wingers bite "

Are you trying to imply that being against all forms of hate and violence, being well informed, is some how a racist trait?

You’re seem to be confused.

I’m only saying that you’re poorly informed. I didn’t mention working class or anyone else.

You’re making it too easy buddy.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Would anyone want her as a neighbour?

Or have her babysit their children ?

Spreading the hatred and helping them see heads in bins as ok ?

Yeah I've never used ISIS or al Qaeda to baby sit my kids.To be honest I didn't realise they offered that service..

The point is that she could be living next door at some point . Your kids playing with her kids , and her thoughts will be passed on to her kids .

And yes , quite easily she could be babysitting someone’s kids . No one noticed her being brainwashed did they ?

They don’t advertise the service

Of course. Parents often spread their hateful views to their kids. You could just as easily live next door to ukippers.

So someone who votes with UKIP is the same as someone who supports isis ?

I’m glad we’ve got that straight then

No of course they’re not the same. I’m free to dislike both.

Don’t forget Tories, New Labour types, UKIP continually vote for war in the Middle East, droning villages, women and children etc. We’re still, for the time being, living in a country that we’re free to express our views.

Both are horrific, both are hate filled. They commit different attrocities.

UKIP didn't vote for war in the Middle East as they only had 1 short lived MP and he didn't vote for any war.

Maybe if some loony terrorist hadn't driven an aircraft into the twin towers and hijack other aircraft and then done a runner to Afghanistan and the dared the West to come and get him we might not be in as much shit as we are now.

The Middle East has been a basket case for centuries before the West existed and will still be a basket case long after we have gone.

The only way you could be this ignorant of the Middle East, both recent and historical is through choice. 20 minutes research would show you how grossly inaccurate your post is.

For example Bin Laden was from Saudi, and then hid in Packistan. The west didn’t invade either of those countries. In fact we sell a shit ton of arms to the Saudis who drop them on schools in the Yemen.

911 wasn’t the start of the problems.

Rome invaded the Middle East over 2000 years ago.

I could go on, but I suspect it’s pointless and that you don’t want to understand the complexities of the situation.

Again your wrong.

He went to Afghan first and was finally caught in Pakistan.

His family disowned him but not before Bush flew his family out of the US back to Saudi.

Now there is a tollerent society lol.

30 seconds of research will show that they have been knocking ten bells out of each other for thousands of years but only you would be so ignorant.

Now we get to the crux of the matter you only mentioned Rome and not other invaders or conquerors like Khan, Mohamed and another nasty piece of work who murdered and enslaved 90 million people in the Middle East, Africa and right up to the now Italian, German border.

Could you be a closet racist.

At least you didn't mention its the British Empire fault.

Yet

Blimey, the confusion and misdirected rage of the far right is something to behold at times.

I just come here to make fun of poorly informed people with very strong opinions. You make it fun.

I see you didn't deny your a racist.

Yes you've got to remember the working class in the Country as the BBC reporter called us are Canables or as you have said poorly informed.

You are as funny as Little and Large on a good day but everyone on here can see that.

Nite nite

Don't let those right wingers bite

Are you trying to imply that being against all forms of hate and violence, being well informed, is some how a racist trait?

You’re seem to be confused.

I’m only saying that you’re poorly informed. I didn’t mention working class or anyone else.

You’re making it too easy buddy.

"

So now your calling me thick too.

Do you work for the BBC.

All forms of hate and violence is wrong.

However you seem to be very selective in your opinions.

I have been all of the world with my business and my opinions are formed on what I have seen.

If you had seen some of the things I have seen you would be singing a different tune.

For the last time nite.

It is interesting speaking to you.

I have always liked to get every side of the argument but I think you are polishing a turd.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?"

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

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By *loswingers OP   Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit "

There you go , just as I predicted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the news has now said that Jeremy Corbyn thinks the Home Secretary was wrong to rescind the nationality of that nasty piece of work Shamima Begum .

He wants her to be able to come back and get help .

Once again , from a Tory who is disappointed in the Tory party , thanks Jeremy for reaffirming why I would never vote for you ."

That's fine; but you're affirming that hard right wingers like to cherry pick the law.

By making her stateless the Home secretary has broken international law. A law ironically that we proposed.

Secondly, do you want her, and her child, to grow up and develop in a fragile part of the world, already disposed to radicalisation, and then have a personal vendetta against Britain and the West?

I'm not a big fan of Corbyn, however, legally we are obliged to try to rehabilitate her, under international law, and additionally we always talk about how part of law and order is rehabilitation. This is not different.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex


"So the news has now said that Jeremy Corbyn thinks the Home Secretary was wrong to rescind the nationality of that nasty piece of work Shamima Begum .

He wants her to be able to come back and get help .

Once again , from a Tory who is disappointed in the Tory party , thanks Jeremy for reaffirming why I would never vote for you ."

I suspect you'll find that the courts tell the Saj that he is wrong and that she must be allowed to retain her citizenship and be allowed to return to the Uk

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home

Today is the 30th anniversary of the murder of Aidan McAnespie ,

Who was shot in the back by a British Soldier , while on his way to play a game of G.A.A Football

"You dare to call me a terrorist

While you look down your Gun".

Oh ffs, and the IRA didn't do the same shoot at a soldier fair enough, woman and children being bombed, that's OK then?? "

No the British Army shot & Killed Women & Children too

They did not Discriminate.

The Provisionals (means temporary) were a reaction of

terrorism ( the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims).

The British used plantation specifically for political aims.

Ie Keeping the French & Spanish Catholics from invaiding Protestant England (gb) .

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"This knee jerk reaction is foolish, will probably be costly and will deepen divisions in our society.

The baying mob want blood, they are the modern day witch dunkers and the Home Secretary has probably just breached this woman’s human rights by making her stateless. When she eventually wins the right to return, by then she will have won compensation for her breach of human rights and the baying mobs will feel even more agitated.

All because The Home Secretary acted like an amateur diplomat and failed to investigate matters thoroughly before he made his decision. How could anyone with eventhe slightest understanding of politics think that Bangladesh would just take her despite having no rightsof residence there - ever - and having the profile that she has got.

The people holding High Office in this Govt are systematically messing up on an almost weekly basis."

This is the baying mob who might have seen their children murdered and mutilated.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit "

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people."

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome."

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial."

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation."

To claim the Nazi's were Socialists as you are trying to claim is Historical falsification. The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party) was iniially just the DAP.

Hitler and his ilk got in, and removed the initial wing of the politicians who were Marxists or aligned that way. The Nazi ideologues utilised the Workers party's Marxist identity to get the populist vote from the people, even though if you actually know much about the German Far right ideology, it was opposed to Marxism and it's ideological children of Communism and Socialism.

Lets put it this way, if the Nazi's were Socialists, they wouldn't have viewed Slavs and Mediterranean Europeans as inferior, as they would have believed in equality of outcome - which is to say, they would prescribe to the notion that everyone is equal, even if you were a German who sponged off the state, vs a Frenchman lets just say, who ran two businesses.

So, accept it for what it is, the word Socialist in the German translation of NAZI, is an ideological front.

As for the article, which page came up first for you? As I got links from Reddit, Quora, New Scientist and the Times first; I had to scroll to page two to get to the Telegraph, Express and Dail Mail links. This is as I rarely visit these websites and I have an algorithm to de-prioritise tabloid links vs high view counts. I'm saying this as you should understand the default algorithm for your browser is to find media outlets and sites similar to what you search for and spend the most time on, as searched for when logged on via your email, and through your I.P address.

Anyway, tangent over.

Yeah the Express article failed at explaining anything and giving a source. Atleast the Daily Mail gave the context the the BBC is allowed to apply for Charitable grants in relation to it's independent and interdependent projects.

In this case it was its Horizon 2020 project aiming to increase accessibility to training and digital information technology in deprived communities and countries.

In short, it's legal, and the money had to be spend in developing infrastructure and individuals. Hence why in Leeds and Salford the BBC now offer more technical apprenticeships in the Media and digital tech economies.

I mean, if you and anyone else want to fork out that £2.4 million that the EU donated, to the BBC's charity, to keep these schemes running, then be my guest, but I don't want my licence fee to go up more.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The reason so many in the UK sympathised with Hitler, or turned a blind eye, was because they had a common enemy - fighting the spread of communism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation."

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

To claim the Nazi's were Socialists as you are trying to claim is Historical falsification. The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party) was iniially just the DAP.

Hitler and his ilk got in, and removed the initial wing of the politicians who were Marxists or aligned that way. The Nazi ideologues utilised the Workers party's Marxist identity to get the populist vote from the people, even though if you actually know much about the German Far right ideology, it was opposed to Marxism and it's ideological children of Communism and Socialism.

Lets put it this way, if the Nazi's were Socialists, they wouldn't have viewed Slavs and Mediterranean Europeans as inferior, as they would have believed in equality of outcome - which is to say, they would prescribe to the notion that everyone is equal, even if you were a German who sponged off the state, vs a Frenchman lets just say, who ran two businesses.

So, accept it for what it is, the word Socialist in the German translation of NAZI, is an ideological front.

As for the article, which page came up first for you? As I got links from Reddit, Quora, New Scientist and the Times first; I had to scroll to page two to get to the Telegraph, Express and Dail Mail links. This is as I rarely visit these websites and I have an algorithm to de-prioritise tabloid links vs high view counts. I'm saying this as you should understand the default algorithm for your browser is to find media outlets and sites similar to what you search for and spend the most time on, as searched for when logged on via your email, and through your I.P address.

Anyway, tangent over.

Yeah the Express article failed at explaining anything and giving a source. Atleast the Daily Mail gave the context the the BBC is allowed to apply for Charitable grants in relation to it's independent and interdependent projects.

In this case it was its Horizon 2020 project aiming to increase accessibility to training and digital information technology in deprived communities and countries.

In short, it's legal, and the money had to be spend in developing infrastructure and individuals. Hence why in Leeds and Salford the BBC now offer more technical apprenticeships in the Media and digital tech economies.

I mean, if you and anyone else want to fork out that £2.4 million that the EU donated, to the BBC's charity, to keep these schemes running, then be my guest, but I don't want my licence fee to go up more."

Did the EU give money to the BBC. Yes or no ?

Its always good to see some educated people on here and yes you are one of these.

I did miss out the full title because I was running out of battery and wanted to get my point across.

The National Socialist German Workers Party where socialists.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral."

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Describing the Nazis as a socialist party is as twisted as Ken Livingstone describing Hitler as a zionist.

The Nazis said one thing, and did the complete opposite. They were expert in manipulating opinion in Germany.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

To claim the Nazi's were Socialists as you are trying to claim is Historical falsification. The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party) was iniially just the DAP.

Hitler and his ilk got in, and removed the initial wing of the politicians who were Marxists or aligned that way. The Nazi ideologues utilised the Workers party's Marxist identity to get the populist vote from the people, even though if you actually know much about the German Far right ideology, it was opposed to Marxism and it's ideological children of Communism and Socialism.

Lets put it this way, if the Nazi's were Socialists, they wouldn't have viewed Slavs and Mediterranean Europeans as inferior, as they would have believed in equality of outcome - which is to say, they would prescribe to the notion that everyone is equal, even if you were a German who sponged off the state, vs a Frenchman lets just say, who ran two businesses.

So, accept it for what it is, the word Socialist in the German translation of NAZI, is an ideological front.

As for the article, which page came up first for you? As I got links from Reddit, Quora, New Scientist and the Times first; I had to scroll to page two to get to the Telegraph, Express and Dail Mail links. This is as I rarely visit these websites and I have an algorithm to de-prioritise tabloid links vs high view counts. I'm saying this as you should understand the default algorithm for your browser is to find media outlets and sites similar to what you search for and spend the most time on, as searched for when logged on via your email, and through your I.P address.

Anyway, tangent over.

Yeah the Express article failed at explaining anything and giving a source. Atleast the Daily Mail gave the context the the BBC is allowed to apply for Charitable grants in relation to it's independent and interdependent projects.

In this case it was its Horizon 2020 project aiming to increase accessibility to training and digital information technology in deprived communities and countries.

In short, it's legal, and the money had to be spend in developing infrastructure and individuals. Hence why in Leeds and Salford the BBC now offer more technical apprenticeships in the Media and digital tech economies.

I mean, if you and anyone else want to fork out that £2.4 million that the EU donated, to the BBC's charity, to keep these schemes running, then be my guest, but I don't want my licence fee to go up more.

Did the EU give money to the BBC. Yes or no ?

Its always good to see some educated people on here and yes you are one of these.

I did miss out the full title because I was running out of battery and wanted to get my point across.

The National Socialist German Workers Party where socialists.

"

The NAZI's were not socialists.

They privatised many state owned industries that even the German liberals and Conservatives at the time agreed should be state run.

They abolished Unions.

They cracked down on anyone talking about Maxism/Socialism which did not correspond to their propaganda.

They banned speaking of Communism, unless sit was correspondent to propaganda.

They went against any concept of equality.

They did not believe the only class worth keeping were to proletariat. They seemed to want a genetic lineage system where by race and your body physique was more important than your merits.

I really do not see how you can have an understanding of the Socialist ideology, and what Nazism was in implementation, and say, yes, one is the same as the other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset "

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting."

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting."

I do agree most of what you are saying.

It is illegal to give money direct to news programmes so what they have done is give it to the support areas.

However which ever way we both say it it smells awfully corrupt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU."

You can see it that way, but it's unfounded and you are really showing cognitive bias.

Legally, there should be no bias from the BBC - and I do not see any, their reality check format gives both the pro and cons of associating with the EU, or relying on the wto.

As we have established, the charity and the broadcasting agency, are two different entities. Not supporting.

You are really perusing a purity spiral - and exposing yourself to the fact that people will call hypocrisy regarding the anti-EU camps dealings.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU.

You can see it that way, but it's unfounded and you are really showing cognitive bias.

Legally, there should be no bias from the BBC - and I do not see any, their reality check format gives both the pro and cons of associating with the EU, or relying on the wto.

As we have established, the charity and the broadcasting agency, are two different entities. Not supporting.

You are really perusing a purity spiral - and exposing yourself to the fact that people will call hypocrisy regarding the anti-EU camps dealings."

I am just saying it as it appears.

I watch the news on the BBC and as a remainer it is defo bias against brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU.

You can see it that way, but it's unfounded and you are really showing cognitive bias.

Legally, there should be no bias from the BBC - and I do not see any, their reality check format gives both the pro and cons of associating with the EU, or relying on the wto.

As we have established, the charity and the broadcasting agency, are two different entities. Not supporting.

You are really perusing a purity spiral - and exposing yourself to the fact that people will call hypocrisy regarding the anti-EU camps dealings.

I am just saying it as it appears.

I watch the news on the BBC and as a remainer it is defo bias against brexit."

I don't really see it.

The emotive reasons for brexit are hard to empirically prove or validate.

That's where the bias perception is.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU.

You can see it that way, but it's unfounded and you are really showing cognitive bias.

Legally, there should be no bias from the BBC - and I do not see any, their reality check format gives both the pro and cons of associating with the EU, or relying on the wto.

As we have established, the charity and the broadcasting agency, are two different entities. Not supporting.

You are really perusing a purity spiral - and exposing yourself to the fact that people will call hypocrisy regarding the anti-EU camps dealings.

I am just saying it as it appears.

I watch the news on the BBC and as a remainer it is defo bias against brexit.

I don't really see it.

The emotive reasons for brexit are hard to empirically prove or validate.

That's where the bias perception is. "

Or you could look at some of the stats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU.

You can see it that way, but it's unfounded and you are really showing cognitive bias.

Legally, there should be no bias from the BBC - and I do not see any, their reality check format gives both the pro and cons of associating with the EU, or relying on the wto.

As we have established, the charity and the broadcasting agency, are two different entities. Not supporting.

You are really perusing a purity spiral - and exposing yourself to the fact that people will call hypocrisy regarding the anti-EU camps dealings.

I am just saying it as it appears.

I watch the news on the BBC and as a remainer it is defo bias against brexit.

I don't really see it.

The emotive reasons for brexit are hard to empirically prove or validate.

That's where the bias perception is.

Or you could look at some of the stats.

"

Stats are stats. They don't lie if the primary data is correct.

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By *icksoneMan
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh come on, would anyone REALLY have expected anything else from Terrorist sympathiser Corbyn?

This is why he is such a threat to our national security.

He would happily get rid of our nuclear deterrent, whilst allowing terrorists to set up camp here.

Bloke should be put in a home You need to stop believing everything you read in the daily fail. Wise up.

I don't read any newspapers, but I have seen enough evidence of him meeting up with Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein over the years to form my own opinions thank you

Communication and negotiation were needed to reach beyond the atrocities that had prevailed for decades. There's little to be gained by not engaging with the elected political representatives of other citizens, who hold the potential for enabling peace. It's stupid for politicians in general to not negotiate with other politicians too and is standard.

As for this female - she's a UK citizen and so belongs in the UK. Having compassion for her does not mean that any wrong doings are overlooked. The right wing politicians are largely looking to appease the right wing media and its consumers. And headline news is a great way to distract people from the real terrors that are continuing.

It's not just the as you say right wing media and it's readers it seems it is most of the population.

The British public is on the whole reasonably tolerant.

However it is becoming less so as it feels it is having the piss taken out of it.

I am wondering which threat do you mean ?

The substantial threat to UK citizens wellbeing is from Brexit conclusions that are months beyond their end point with a government that doesn't know what it wants. Most people have their attention and viewpoints influenced by a UK media that is predominantly rightwing - so there is motivation to distract attention away from Brexit

Nearly had a connery reading this one.

Have you forgotten about the British Bias Coruption. BBC.

If they got more left wing, anti white male anti England and anti Brexit they would be joining a local Fascist Party.

Dont forget their rewriting of History

Just remind me how much they get from Europe ???

Technically they are in breach of their contract with the people.

Please elaborate and give evidence.

I mean I know some of their popular take pieces, which are more tailored to teens on their phones are strongly to the left, but most of their articles for politics and science are actually referenced and supported by the Civil service or independent panels.

As for them being anti -'catch all you just said', surely they'd be joining a commie or marxist party, not a fascist one.

Fascists tend to take Conservationism and dial it up - Commies conflate equality of opportunity with equality of outcome.

Socialist workers Party in the 1930s from Germany Ring a bell.

Just google how much money does the EU give to the BBC and there it is first page.

So much for being impartial.

First item on google

The BBC has received nearly €5million in funding from the European Union since 2015, The Daily Telegraph has learnt, prompting accusations from Brexiteers that the broadcaster risks a conflict of interests.

The EU has given the BBC €4.8million (£4.2million) under its Horizon 2020 programme, which provides grants for research and development. Nearly €1.5million is earmarked for ongoing projects involving the corporation.

I forgot to hammer home my point.

The £2.4 million is a charitable donation.

The charity is not essential, its some the BBC does to help with upward mobility here and in other countries.

It's 5% (in 2015) of their charitable total.

It's not their actual operating budget, therefore the money does not go to broadcasting.

I mean, is 5% of a non-essential charity, from 4 years ago, whose operating cost is nothing compared to the actual BBC Broadcasting, going to be a conflict of interest?

It's a drop of oil in the machine, and to peruse it is to waste time and energy on a purity spiral.

So yes they did get money from the EU.

If they do not get this money who will be first to take a pay cut or will it just be down to the Licence fee payer.

No wonder they are getting upset

No, the BBC's registered charity, Horizon 2020 got the money.

The BBC broadcasting service is state owned, an the Horizon 2020 project is a charity. Legally they are two different things.

So you should view it this way:

The registered Horizon 2020 charity received approximately 5% of it's 2015 budget from an EU donation.

We know that all of that money was spent of training and infrastructure legally it cannot be used in broadcasting.

Therefore, if we presume that as of 2015, the charity has received the same amount of donations, and that the EU has kept on donating the same amount, the Horizon 2020 charity will lose 5% of its budget.

As it only pays for infrastructure and training for development, it may have to scale back.

The BBC broadcasting service, and therefore the licence payer is unaffected by this, as Horizon 2020 is not part of BBC broadcasting.

Again yes have said they have got money off the EU.

This is usually called a back hander, a bung in a brown envelope or a bribe.

All the same they got money from the EU.

You can see it that way, but it's unfounded and you are really showing cognitive bias.

Legally, there should be no bias from the BBC - and I do not see any, their reality check format gives both the pro and cons of associating with the EU, or relying on the wto.

As we have established, the charity and the broadcasting agency, are two different entities. Not supporting.

You are really perusing a purity spiral - and exposing yourself to the fact that people will call hypocrisy regarding the anti-EU camps dealings.

I am just saying it as it appears.

I watch the news on the BBC and as a remainer it is defo bias against brexit.

I don't really see it.

The emotive reasons for brexit are hard to empirically prove or validate.

That's where the bias perception is.

Or you could look at some of the stats.

Stats are stats. They don't lie if the primary data is correct."

Or is fiddled with.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"He just can’t help putting his foot in it can he ? I cannot see the average labour voter being happy about that

This is my point , the man is clueless "

I've not much time for Corbyn but on this issue he's spot on. Being British should not be something that can be given and taken away at the wim of a minister or Govetment. In my opinion either you're British or you're not, and if you're British, whilst that gives you certain rights, it also bestowes on you responsibilities and duties. One of those is to be held accountable, under law, for your actions and decisions. She should be brought back here and held to account for here actions.

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