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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example" If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example" What about foreign teenagers that want to pick up litter? | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. " So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets?" Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered? | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered?" They’re too busy scratching their nuts and complaining about brown people to pick up litter. | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered? They’re too busy scratching their nuts and complaining about brown people to pick up litter. " Entitled as fuck, that lot. | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered? They’re too busy scratching their nuts and complaining about brown people to pick up litter. Entitled as fuck, that lot." What do you think the average Daily Mail reader believes they’re “Entitled” to ? | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example" i Wonder how many of them will be driven by their mums and dads in huge,petrol guzzling people carriers and 4x4s ...  | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered? They’re too busy scratching their nuts and complaining about brown people to pick up litter. Entitled as fuck, that lot. What do you think the average Daily Mail reader believes they’re “Entitled” to ? " Unicorns, fairy dust, sunlit uplands | |||
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"Climate change will be a real issue for these teenagers.The old limp mail readers won't be around to experience it.So they couldn't give a fuck. The daily mail climate change deniers can spend the day picking up litter.To be fair its all their good for.." To be fair Daily Mail readers are really practiced in picking up tabloid sized rubbish. | |||
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"Climate change will be a real issue for these teenagers.The old limp mail readers won't be around to experience it.So they couldn't give a fuck. The daily mail climate change deniers can spend the day picking up litter.To be fair its all their good for.. To be fair Daily Mail readers are really practiced in picking up tabloid sized rubbish." I take my hat off to you sir and your witty response...  | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered? They’re too busy scratching their nuts and complaining about brown people to pick up litter. Entitled as fuck, that lot. What do you think the average Daily Mail reader believes they’re “Entitled” to ? " Well, in this case, some teenagers to pick up their litter for them. In general? Lots of things. | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. " this.. when they're old and doddery if its still going then fine.. | |||
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"It's always the next generation who usher in change. It's always the older generation who resist it. It's how we make progress. " . That is very true, it's a fine balancing act that allows for progress with continuity. I have no problem personally with countering climate change providing it's done sensibly and efficiently. | |||
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"Are all of these teenage girls going to give up makeup fancy soaps/shower gels ect ? Palm oil industry is killing the forests " Whatsboutery for the win? | |||
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"Are all of these teenage girls going to give up makeup fancy soaps/shower gels ect ? Palm oil industry is killing the forests Whatsboutery for the win?" ?? | |||
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"Are all of these teenage girls going to give up makeup fancy soaps/shower gels ect ? Palm oil industry is killing the forests Whatsboutery for the win? ??" What about this ? what about that ? Whataboutism or whataboutery Do these kids have to go to school in electric vehicles before they can have a view on climate change.? | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets?" The problem is the daily fail has an idea that most environmentally conscious young people want to do. They fail to realise though they're not backing ideas for this to be a sustainable movement. They don't endorse a campaign to get the kids a community group to do this via. E.g, no sensible parent is going to let their kid go picking up litter by their local beck - they tend to have rats in them, needles, broken glass, and cans. It's an accident waiting to happen. Next, what happens when your kid picks up 2 or 3 bing bags full - that's what each person needs to do for that to be effective really. You need to find somewhere for it to go. Your local open air tip might not send stuff off to an incinerator or recycling plant. More likely landfill - which just created an more concentrated, harder to deal with problem . In short the daily fail idealises it, as kids in coastal areas or in suburban home counties picking up litter in their idyllic country parks. They don't really realise that the biggest issue is the working class and middle aged readership not having a great attitude to disposable materials. | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered?" I second that motion! | |||
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"Are all of these teenage girls going to give up makeup fancy soaps/shower gels ect ? Palm oil industry is killing the forests Whatsboutery for the win? ?? What about this ? what about that ? Whataboutism or whataboutery Do these kids have to go to school in electric vehicles before they can have a view on climate change.? "  | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. " Local people in local villages looking after the local community.. Keep it local..  | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. " How you can just tell them by looking I don't know. Now brexiteer daily mail readers on the other hand on here are easy to spot  | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. Local people in local villages looking after the local community.. Keep it local.. "I guess that's a bad thing now is it? | |||
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"The left are just complete hypocrites with there buzzword of whataboutery. Ask them about the problems of Islamic theology and r*pe gangs and there first words will be... What about Catholics!, ask them about Muslim hate preachers and there first words will be... What about Tommy Robinson followed closely by... That's not even his real name!. If they ever get a degree it will be in whataboutery. " Had a drink, have we? | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. " How do you identify them as Daily Mail types? Are they shouting abuse at brown people while picking up litter? | |||
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"The left are just complete hypocrites with there buzzword of whataboutery. Ask them about the problems of Islamic theology and r*pe gangs and there first words will be... What about Catholics!, ask them about Muslim hate preachers and there first words will be... What about Tommy Robinson followed closely by... That's not even his real name!. If they ever get a degree it will be in whataboutery. " Some top notch analysis there. You can’t label all non-islamaphobes as being leftist hypocrites. Most of us are just normal people. | |||
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"A bit silly as for most it is an excuse to have a day off school and some fun. They should join the daily mail campaign and go picking up litter to set a good example If teenagers do anything that the Daily Mail wants them to, that's when I'll lose faith in humanity. So because the daily mail is running a campaign to pick up litter then nobody should do it?What a stupid thing to say,surely a campaign to pick up litter is good whoever says it,or do you think we should let litter mount up and for rats to roam the streets? Why don't Daily Mail readers get off their middle-aged arses and pick up the litter themselves if they are that bothered?" Some do | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. How do you identify them as Daily Mail types? Are they shouting abuse at brown people while picking up litter?" Idiot | |||
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"I wonder how many of these protesting kids will insist on being walked to school,give up flying to holyday places,never drive when older.Live with no central heating etc? " I wonder how many of those kids have any control over that, being, you know...kids. | |||
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"I wonder how many of these protesting kids will insist on being walked to school,give up flying to holyday places,never drive when older.Live with no central heating etc? " In my experience most kids don’t live within walking distance of their senior school and generally will find an alternative mode of transport than being driven by their parents! | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. How do you identify them as Daily Mail types? Are they shouting abuse at brown people while picking up litter?Idiot" Why was this called for? The Daily Mail specialise in bigotry. This is what’s its known for. The point I’m trying to make, is that encouraging people to pick up litter does not in any way redeem the Daily Mail for the years and years of hate and vile abuse spouted from its pages. | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. How do you identify them as Daily Mail types? Are they shouting abuse at brown people while picking up litter?Idiot Why was this called for? The Daily Mail specialise in bigotry. This is what’s its known for. The point I’m trying to make, is that encouraging people to pick up litter does not in any way redeem the Daily Mail for the years and years of hate and vile abuse spouted from its pages. " So you’d rather people don’t pick up litter, why do you think the Daily Mail is trying to redeem itself? I thought we lived in a country that allows us freedom of speech. We’ll all have different opinions, like it or not the Daily Mail is the 2nd most popular newspaper in the Uk. | |||
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"Gotta say, everytime I've witnessed the local villages have a volunteer clear up day, it's been 100% daily mail reader types who have turned up to help out. How do you identify them as Daily Mail types? Are they shouting abuse at brown people while picking up litter?Idiot Why was this called for? The Daily Mail specialise in bigotry. This is what’s its known for. The point I’m trying to make, is that encouraging people to pick up litter does not in any way redeem the Daily Mail for the years and years of hate and vile abuse spouted from its pages. So you’d rather people don’t pick up litter, why do you think the Daily Mail is trying to redeem itself? I thought we lived in a country that allows us freedom of speech. We’ll all have different opinions, like it or not the Daily Mail is the 2nd most popular newspaper in the Uk. " Indeed, freedom of speech works both ways. surely if the Daily Mail is free to print hate, I am free to criticise them. Why else are they trying to get kids to pick up litter? Other than to try to improve their image. And yeah it’s a sad state of affairs if it truly is the second most popular paper in the country. This is nothing to be celebrated. | |||
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"I wonder how many of these protesting kids will insist on being walked to school,give up flying to holyday places,never drive when older.Live with no central heating etc? " I wonder how much of the same can be said about the DM’s wombles? At least the kids are “addressing” the cause not the symptoms. | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. " Because people say some 16 year olds don’t know what they are doing in some cases, doesn’t mean all 16 year olds don’t know what they are doing in all cases. Be like saying all brexiteers are racist because some vote leave because of racial issues. | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. " . It's left wing hypocrisy, to young to know what there doing in anything that doesn't suit there agenda and poor old picked upon children who should get a vote about Brexit despite them saying hundreds of times that it's to tough a subject for the public!!. It's just one long virtue signalling load of bullshit, climate change is there life long wet dream not because of the problem itself but the equity share out that is needed to cure it!. It is these fuckers and there stupid communist agenda that have forced the digging in of the heels of the general public. You just can't cure climate change without sucking off a Somali pirate first. Cockwombles  | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. " I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post.... | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post.... "The incoherent ramblings of a mind that seems unable to cobble together anything of relevance to the conversation . | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post.... "Spongerbob got the point, it's a clear case of left wing hypocrisy. Same as when leftists say 16 year olds should be able to vote. But bring up the case of the isis schoolgirl and all you get from leftists is "She was only 16 she didn't know what she was doing". You can't have it both ways. | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post....
Spongerbob got the point, it's a clear case of left wing hypocrisy. Same as when leftists say 16 year olds should be able to vote. But bring up the case of the isis schoolgirl and all you get from leftists is "She was only 16 she didn't know what she was doing". You can't have it both ways. "Joining Isis and protesting for a day are pretty different activities. But whatever gets you through the day. | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post....
Spongerbob got the point, it's a clear case of left wing hypocrisy. Same as when leftists say 16 year olds should be able to vote. But bring up the case of the isis schoolgirl and all you get from leftists is "She was only 16 she didn't know what she was doing". You can't have it both ways. "Spongebob produced an incoherent word-salad. It seems you are doing the same. Apparently you think that children caring about climate change has something to do with the voting age and also something to do with terrorists grooming children.... I'm also not sure what's "leftist" about not wanting to destroy the planet you happen to be living on.... | |||
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"This thread has been spun around so much people are arguing a different point to put down "the left". Typical. As for the protest, it was great to see it take off this way, there's so much more our governments could be doing to improve things but they'd rather take backhanders from corporations. It's sad that we need to say we need to be more like China and India on this in terms of taking climate change seriously. " Do you know how many coal fired power stations China has built over the last 5 years? I've lost count. | |||
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"This thread has been spun around so much people are arguing a different point to put down "the left". Typical. As for the protest, it was great to see it take off this way, there's so much more our governments could be doing to improve things but they'd rather take backhanders from corporations. It's sad that we need to say we need to be more like China and India on this in terms of taking climate change seriously. Do you know how many coal fired power stations China has built over the last 5 years? I've lost count. " Oh yes, China has done a lot over the years that's why they're springing back in the opposite direction. You can't think "oh they've polluted more so we don't have to do anything" cause quite frankly that's a stupid way to be, our government WAS on the right track with their focus on wind power and schemes to get council properties using solar panels. Sadly that got put aside as the government has been wrapped up in other issues. | |||
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"This thread has been spun around so much people are arguing a different point to put down "the left". Typical. As for the protest, it was great to see it take off this way, there's so much more our governments could be doing to improve things but they'd rather take backhanders from corporations. It's sad that we need to say we need to be more like China and India on this in terms of taking climate change seriously. Do you know how many coal fired power stations China has built over the last 5 years? I've lost count. " You mean the ones that they didn’t build and instead invested in green energy? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-scraps-construction-85-coal-power-plants-renewable-energy-national-energy-administration-paris-a7530571.html China have a long way to go. I just like highlighting your misinformation. | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post....
Spongerbob got the point, it's a clear case of left wing hypocrisy. Same as when leftists say 16 year olds should be able to vote. But bring up the case of the isis schoolgirl and all you get from leftists is "She was only 16 she didn't know what she was doing". You can't have it both ways.
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Apparently you think that children caring about climate change has something to do with the voting age and also something to do with terrorists grooming children....
I'm also not sure what's "leftist" about not wanting to destroy the planet you happen to be living on....". I spent three minutes to actually listen to what the children on the protests were saying, it was literally nothing that's not been said a million times by everybody, it was pointless virtue signalling although the last point they made was very good, if you believe in it and wish to stop it then stop doing it... Now let's have a bet between us, how long before the next lefty says, I'm flying abroad for a weekend in Barcelona and I'm going to have to get a bloody visa now thanks to Brexit and won't somebody think of the children and the climate change!!!. | |||
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" I spent three minutes to actually listen to what the children on the protests were saying, it was literally nothing that's not been said a million times by everybody, it was pointless virtue signalling although the last point they made was very good, if you believe in it and wish to stop it then stop doing it... Now let's have a bet between us, how long before the next lefty says, I'm flying abroad for a weekend in Barcelona and I'm going to have to get a bloody visa now thanks to Brexit and won't somebody think of the children and the climate change!!!." Whataboutism again, so if a person helps to slightly add to the pollution, then the government who can have a much bigger effect on it should do nothing? Or maybe this will help you understand, a tanker of shit spills a over your house, and you're whinging there's no point in cleaning it up since the kitchen will get a bit messy when you cook. | |||
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"You were expecting children to say something new ? " . No I was expecting them to trot out the agenda their left wing radicalisers had fed them. The last point was good though, I agreed with it, we should all stop doing it. | |||
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" I spent three minutes to actually listen to what the children on the protests were saying, it was literally nothing that's not been said a million times by everybody, it was pointless virtue signalling although the last point they made was very good, if you believe in it and wish to stop it then stop doing it... Now let's have a bet between us, how long before the next lefty says, I'm flying abroad for a weekend in Barcelona and I'm going to have to get a bloody visa now thanks to Brexit and won't somebody think of the children and the climate change!!!. Whataboutism again, so if a person helps to slightly add to the pollution, then the government who can have a much bigger effect on it should do nothing? Or maybe this will help you understand, a tanker of shit spills a over your house, and you're whinging there's no point in cleaning it up since the kitchen will get a bit messy when you cook. " . What do you expect the government can do about it? | |||
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" What do you expect the government can do about it?" Go back to focusing on raising more wind turbines, promote renewable energy, state that every new building needs to have Solar which is connected to the grid, mandate that solar connected properties should also have a storage cell, etc. And that's just the property stuff alone. | |||
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"You were expecting children to say something new ? . No I was expecting them to trot out the agenda their left wing radicalisers had fed them. The last point was good though, I agreed with it, we should all stop doing it." Climate change due to human activity isn’t a left wing agenda. It’s scientific fact. | |||
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" What do you expect the government can do about it? Go back to focusing on raising more wind turbines, promote renewable energy, state that every new building needs to have Solar which is connected to the grid, mandate that solar connected properties should also have a storage cell, etc. And that's just the property stuff alone. " . We build 250,000 houses a year and there already mandated to have a percentage of PV but they only work during falling sunlight, daylight reduces the output and in this country we have 6 hours of light in the winter, storage cells are a good idea but there's a huge fire risk with sticking them in people's houses, they also are massively dependent on raw materials and require lots and lots of fossil fuel energy to dig them up. we already have more wind power than anybody in Europe there's only so much of it you can supply because it only works when the winds blowing. Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe it's a really big problem to solve and the answers aren't just lying around for the government to implement!. If we're going to go off the science alone then I'm afraid your ideas are like pissing on a nuclear bomb | |||
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"You were expecting children to say something new ? . No I was expecting them to trot out the agenda their left wing radicalisers had fed them. The last point was good though, I agreed with it, we should all stop doing it. Climate change due to human activity isn’t a left wing agenda. It’s scientific fact. " . AHH the whataboutery twins have been let out of the closet. Well done Sherlock, what next the sun comes up at dawn  | |||
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"This thread has been spun around so much people are arguing a different point to put down "the left". Typical. As for the protest, it was great to see it take off this way, there's so much more our governments could be doing to improve things but they'd rather take backhanders from corporations. It's sad that we need to say we need to be more like China and India on this in terms of taking climate change seriously. Do you know how many coal fired power stations China has built over the last 5 years? I've lost count. You mean the ones that they didn’t build and instead invested in green energy? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-scraps-construction-85-coal-power-plants-renewable-energy-national-energy-administration-paris-a7530571.html China have a long way to go. I just like highlighting your misinformation. " No misinformation Dave, and your link is dated Jan 2017, so the information provided in it is past its sell by date. Read this link and educate yourself dated September 2018, and you'll find construction on many of those power stations in China you think have been cancelled actually weren't cancelled and satellite images prove the ongoing construction at those coal fired power stations..... www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45640706 A report dated April 2018 also showed China still plans to increase its coal fired power plants to almost 1,100 gigawatts which is over 3 times the coal fired capacity of the USA. | |||
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" What do you expect the government can do about it? Go back to focusing on raising more wind turbines, promote renewable energy, state that every new building needs to have Solar which is connected to the grid, mandate that solar connected properties should also have a storage cell, etc. And that's just the property stuff alone. . We build 250,000 houses a year and there already mandated to have a percentage of PV but they only work during falling sunlight, daylight reduces the output and in this country we have 6 hours of light in the winter, storage cells are a good idea but there's a huge fire risk with sticking them in people's houses, they also are massively dependent on raw materials and require lots and lots of fossil fuel energy to dig them up. we already have more wind power than anybody in Europe there's only so much of it you can supply because it only works when the winds blowing. Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe it's a really big problem to solve and the answers aren't just lying around for the government to implement!. If we're going to go off the science alone then I'm afraid your ideas are like pissing on a nuclear bomb " Maybe we should have a referendum... then it doesn’t matter how big a problem it is. The government will have to solve.  | |||
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"There's still more that can be done, you just to be defeatist on the issue, should we just do nothing then? Whilst other countries power ahead? " . Well doing nothing would actually be better than doing an awful lot that's ineffective. I agree there's plenty could be done, the government could stop sitting on their hands and build 25 new nuclear power stations, they could ban the sale of all cars bigger than a smart car, limit air travel to once a year per person, take the road and fuel tax and put it into a fund for energy efficient transport, ban the importing of all none essential food, limit the amount of meat consumed per person per week, ban the importation of clothing cars heavy materials anything that requires shipping. They all have an instant effect. | |||
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" What do you expect the government can do about it? Go back to focusing on raising more wind turbines, promote renewable energy, state that every new building needs to have Solar which is connected to the grid, mandate that solar connected properties should also have a storage cell, etc. And that's just the property stuff alone. . We build 250,000 houses a year and there already mandated to have a percentage of PV but they only work during falling sunlight, daylight reduces the output and in this country we have 6 hours of light in the winter, storage cells are a good idea but there's a huge fire risk with sticking them in people's houses, they also are massively dependent on raw materials and require lots and lots of fossil fuel energy to dig them up. we already have more wind power than anybody in Europe there's only so much of it you can supply because it only works when the winds blowing. Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe it's a really big problem to solve and the answers aren't just lying around for the government to implement!. If we're going to go off the science alone then I'm afraid your ideas are like pissing on a nuclear bomb Maybe we should have a referendum... then it doesn’t matter how big a problem it is. The government will have to solve. "I would guess in this age of anti intellectualism and alternative facts, concerning the climate ,as can be seen put out by the right wing loons on here .Many will doubt the scientific data because they get their info from Facebook and YouTube. | |||
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" What do you expect the government can do about it? Go back to focusing on raising more wind turbines, promote renewable energy, state that every new building needs to have Solar which is connected to the grid, mandate that solar connected properties should also have a storage cell, etc. And that's just the property stuff alone. . We build 250,000 houses a year and there already mandated to have a percentage of PV but they only work during falling sunlight, daylight reduces the output and in this country we have 6 hours of light in the winter, storage cells are a good idea but there's a huge fire risk with sticking them in people's houses, they also are massively dependent on raw materials and require lots and lots of fossil fuel energy to dig them up. we already have more wind power than anybody in Europe there's only so much of it you can supply because it only works when the winds blowing. Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe it's a really big problem to solve and the answers aren't just lying around for the government to implement!. If we're going to go off the science alone then I'm afraid your ideas are like pissing on a nuclear bomb Maybe we should have a referendum... then it doesn’t matter how big a problem it is. The government will have to solve.
I would guess in this age of anti intellectualism and alternative facts, concerning the climate ,as can be seen put out by the right wing loons on here .Many will doubt the scientific data because they get their info from Facebook and YouTube.". Oh do enlighten us oh gifted genius of the left!. Were all ears | |||
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"I've often wondered why there is a correlation between racist people and climate change denial. I've wondered if it's IQ .Often it seems to be wilful ignorance because they equate climate change with being politically left .As has been demonstrated blatantly here in this thread. I'm sure somebody has written a paper on it .. ". So no answers then?. As I thought | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug. "I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is. | |||
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"I've often wondered why there is a correlation between racist people and climate change denial. I've wondered if it's IQ .Often it seems to be wilful ignorance because they equate climate change with being politically left .As has been demonstrated blatantly here in this thread. I'm sure somebody has written a paper on it .. "Who has outright denied climate change on this thread? I've just skimmed back through it and can't see anyone denying climate change. | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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"Could not give a shit about climate change ...its happened before ....as if my carrier bag or plastic straw ...or my old diesel wagon is going to save the planet ...what bollocks" This epic level of misunderstanding around the problem can only be deliberate. If you had even a slight understanding of the issue then you would be very concerned. | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling."The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem. What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. ". Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest. We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius. | |||
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"It's always the next generation who usher in change. It's always the older generation who resist it. It's how we make progress. . That is very true, it's a fine balancing act that allows for progress with continuity. I have no problem personally with countering climate change providing it's done sensibly and efficiently." . Here I am, twelfth post down from the top. | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius. "I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual. Standard though in all your incarnations here.. | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius.
I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual.
Standard though in all your incarnations here.. ". More ramblings | |||
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"Do these teenagers know what they're doing? I mean if you listen to the left about the Isis schoolgirl who went to join Isis at the age of 16 who wants to come back to the UK now she's pregnant, the left will tell you she didn't know what she was doing at 16 years of age. I'm sure that you had a point when you started writing that post....
Spongerbob got the point, it's a clear case of left wing hypocrisy. Same as when leftists say 16 year olds should be able to vote. But bring up the case of the isis schoolgirl and all you get from leftists is "She was only 16 she didn't know what she was doing". You can't have it both ways.
Spongebob produced an incoherent word-salad.
It seems you are doing the same.
Apparently you think that children caring about climate change has something to do with the voting age and also something to do with terrorists grooming children....
I'm also not sure what's "leftist" about not wanting to destroy the planet you happen to be living on.....
I spent three minutes to actually listen to what the children on the protests were saying, it was literally nothing that's not been said a million times by everybody, it was pointless virtue signalling although the last point they made was very good, if you believe in it and wish to stop it then stop doing it... Now let's have a bet between us, how long before the next lefty says, I'm flying abroad for a weekend in Barcelona and I'm going to have to get a bloody visa now thanks to Brexit and won't somebody think of the children and the climate change!!!."Eh? All I can take from that is that some children said some things that it would be hard to disagree with, which apparently makes it "virtue signalling". There's some mildly incomprehensible bits about holidays and BREXIT, do you think these children are booking cheap foreign holidays? | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius.
I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual.
Standard though in all your incarnations here.. .
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius.
I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual.
Standard though in all your incarnations here.. .
More ramblings
Ok Dave. ". Dave? | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius.
I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual.
Standard though in all your incarnations here.. .
More ramblings
Ok Dave. .
Dave?". Dash dash dash dot dot dot dash dash dash. Your all very Morse code. Our survey says nah nah x | |||
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"My biggest concern is the kids of today in general ...pampered snowflake ..and not a Scooby about the real world ..ie work etc . Ps oh I must cancel my holidays as I have to pollute the earth getting there.." You’re more concerned about kids being sensitive than you are about the destruction of the earths biosphere? | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius.
I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual.
Standard though in all your incarnations here.. .
More ramblings
Ok Dave. .
Dave?.
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Our survey says nah nah x ". Or is it dot dot dot DASH DASH DASH dot dot dot. I always get it confused | |||
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"Dash dash dash dot dot dot come on bobsters let's here those answers "That's more like it dave you used to call me bobster all the time... Happy memories.. We've discussed climate change dozens of time as you know. Your pessimistic and nihilistic and I'm optimistic on the subject.. Some see a technological solution others see a naturalistic solution to climate change. I see both as an option. I hope this helps and apologises for the late reply due to Saturday night shenanigans .. | |||
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"Dash dash dash dot dot dot come on bobsters let's here those answers
That's more like it dave you used to call me bobster all the time...
Happy memories..
We've discussed climate change dozens of time as you know.
Your pessimistic and nihilistic and I'm optimistic on the subject..
Some see a technological solution others see a naturalistic solution to climate change.
I see both as an option.
I hope this helps and apologises for the late reply due to Saturday night shenanigans .. ". I've no idea who this is Dave is so I'm afraid I'm going to have to give you another our survey says nah nah XX. That's two strikes, one more and your out | |||
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"As I said in my only other post on this thread, I commend the kids for speaking up about climate change. Such a pity that the left have hijacked their day of action, including but not only green (red) loons like Caroline Lucas. They couldn’t just sit back and let them have their day, they had to go wading in and spoiling it for them. Because for them it was just another juicy bandwagon for them to jump on. Such a shame that the children didn’t see the apparent “political support” for what it really was..." Imagine the Green party supporting kids protesting about climate change... | |||
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"As I said in my only other post on this thread, I commend the kids for speaking up about climate change. Such a pity that the left have hijacked their day of action, including but not only green (red) loons like Caroline Lucas. They couldn’t just sit back and let them have their day, they had to go wading in and spoiling it for them. Because for them it was just another juicy bandwagon for them to jump on. Such a shame that the children didn’t see the apparent “political support” for what it really was..." Well the climate change deniers UKIP or the big business over people and the environment Tories are unlikely to support them are they. | |||
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"Dash dash dash dot dot dot come on bobsters let's here those answers
That's more like it dave you used to call me bobster all the time...
Happy memories..
We've discussed climate change dozens of time as you know.
Your pessimistic and nihilistic and I'm optimistic on the subject..
Some see a technological solution others see a naturalistic solution to climate change.
I see both as an option.
I hope this helps and apologises for the late reply due to Saturday night shenanigans .. .
I've no idea who this is Dave is so I'm afraid I'm going to have to give you another our survey says nah nah XX.
That's two strikes, one more and your out "Sounds good to me dave. | |||
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"Could not give a shit about climate change ...its happened before ....as if my carrier bag or plastic straw ...or my old diesel wagon is going to save the planet ...what bollocks This epic level of misunderstanding around the problem can only be deliberate. If you had even a slight understanding of the issue then you would be very concerned. " Was your epic misunderstanding of the current level of coal fired power stations being built in China deliberate Dave? If you had even a slight understanding of the issue then you would be very concerned. | |||
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"As I said in my only other post on this thread, I commend the kids for speaking up about climate change. Such a pity that the left have hijacked their day of action, including but not only green (red) loons like Caroline Lucas. They couldn’t just sit back and let them have their day, they had to go wading in and spoiling it for them. Because for them it was just another juicy bandwagon for them to jump on. Such a shame that the children didn’t see the apparent “political support” for what it really was... Well the climate change deniers UKIP or the big business over people and the environment Tories are unlikely to support them are they. " No, you just choose to deny the level of coal fired power stations being built in China. As for your throw away quip about big business being over the people, you seem quite happy for big business to be over the people when it comes to Brexit. | |||
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"All I'm hearing from the leftists is mumblings of fantasy,utopias and daydreams. No big problems only the children can save us! With technology we've not even invented, if only the evil capitalists would release the secret Pattent for free energy we could all hug.
I’m really lost what the point you’re trying to make is.
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The left doesn't have any answers just a load of mumblings and virtue signalling.
The right just get twisted knickers if kids are protesting. Magnificent input from the right wing loons on the climate change problem.
What was it the other week. Outrage over cartoons.. .
Actually I was right at the top of this thread saying it didn't bother me in the slightest.
We're all still waiting to be enlightened oh educated leftist genius.
I've never promised you any quick solution.You seem confused as usual.
Standard though in all your incarnations here.. .
More ramblings
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Dave?.
Dash dash dash dot dot dot dash dash dash.
Your all very Morse code.
Our survey says nah nah x .
Or is it dot dot dot DASH DASH DASH dot dot dot.
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"Do you know what amuses me, people who pretend to be something there not, strong, hard, brave, unable to commit to any thought for fear of being thought worse of, no intelligent thought in their swimming cap head." That is a good description of right wingers like yourself, you clearly have no ability to produce any intelligent thought. | |||
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"Dash dash dash dot dot dot come on bobsters let's here those answers
That's more like it dave you used to call me bobster all the time...
Happy memories..
We've discussed climate change dozens of time as you know.
Your pessimistic and nihilistic and I'm optimistic on the subject..
Some see a technological solution others see a naturalistic solution to climate change.
I see both as an option.
I hope this helps and apologises for the late reply due to Saturday night shenanigans .. .
I've no idea who this is Dave is so I'm afraid I'm going to have to give you another our survey says nah nah XX.
That's two strikes, one more and your out
Sounds good to me dave. ". That's a full house xxx and you've still not guessed right. | |||
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"As I said in my only other post on this thread, I commend the kids for speaking up about climate change. Such a pity that the left have hijacked their day of action, including but not only green (red) loons like Caroline Lucas. They couldn’t just sit back and let them have their day, they had to go wading in and spoiling it for them. Because for them it was just another juicy bandwagon for them to jump on. Such a shame that the children didn’t see the apparent “political support” for what it really was... Well the climate change deniers UKIP or the big business over people and the environment Tories are unlikely to support them are they. No, you just choose to deny the level of coal fired power stations being built in China. As for your throw away quip about big business being over the people, you seem quite happy for big business to be over the people when it comes to Brexit. "Standard tactic from you, losing the argument, got nothing to add, so trying to change the subject. Poor show. | |||
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