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By *heLaserGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Coventry

Should she be allowed back into britan ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?"

Yeah but only with a carrier bag no backpacks...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?"

No, she made her bed now she needs to lie in it!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Pulls up a chair, this won't end well....

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

She's a British citizen, of course she should be welcome back. Put in prison, child put into care.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I can live without her being around.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately!

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By *heLaserGuy OP   Man
over a year ago

Coventry


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?

No, she made her bed now she needs to lie in it!"

Hooefully the bed she lies in is as far away from britain as possible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?

No, she made her bed now she needs to lie in it!

Hooefully the bed she lies in is as far away from britain as possible."

And it's made of nails!

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By *ab_SparklesWoman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

Hard as it is to say this but she might have been a very valuable girl that all the media surrounding isis and what they do

(even a doctor at my major hospital joined isis I'm unaware if he is still alive) and having knowledge of the uk national hospital database scary.

I think she should be isolated for some time before consideration on coming back into the UK. A bit like a prisoners vetted before being released.

At the end of the day unless you have been part of isis we actually don't know what is said. We as a nation need to be protected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never! she has stated she has no regrets and thinks all of this is normal

Only one reason is she is pregnant and lost the opther 2.

Do you really think she would not be a problem later on down the line?

Spouting shit and spreading the word!

she might have been a child when she left but she left by her own choice.

She loves that way of llife so much then let her stay there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe most countries strip their nationals of their nationality when they join the ISIS.

So no she shouldn’t be allowed back. And anyone who starts spouting about her human rights should think about the human rights of all of those who have been killed in terrorist incidents conducted by or in the name of Isis

Happy fabbing everyone

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Didn't the UK pass a law making it a crime for a British citizen to take part in the caliphate?

I guess she is looking at a stretch in the pokey if she comes back.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?

No, she made her bed now she needs to lie in it!

Hooefully the bed she lies in is as far away from britain as possible.

And it's made of nails!"

At least 6 inches long and very sharp!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Didn't the UK pass a law making it a crime for a British citizen to take part in the caliphate?

I guess she is looking at a stretch in the pokey if she comes back.

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And why should the British tax payer pay for her incarceration?

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

No

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Didn't the UK pass a law making it a crime for a British citizen to take part in the caliphate?

I guess she is looking at a stretch in the pokey if she comes back.

And why should the British tax payer pay for her incarceration? "

Better being locked up than on the loose?

Legally, I don't think a country can make a citizen stateless (unless they are of dual nationality).

These people are a legal nightmare for the government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No she shouldnt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately! "

Agree with this. She only wants to come back because shes pregnant and lost 2 babies already.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The do-gooder human rights brigade will make sure shes looked after better than a rough sleeping x-British army falklands veteran.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately!

Agree with this. She only wants to come back because shes pregnant and lost 2 babies already."

If someone's only citizenship is British, where do you deport them to?

There isn't a global dump for unwanted people.

Unless you count Guantanamo Bay, I guess.

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By *he Sex PistolsCouple
over a year ago

wirral

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No because I can see her getting a house and all the money that the government will give her. The TV and paper company's will pay her for her story.

Even if she does go to jail it be for a few weeks and then house etc.

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By *ancMike82Man
over a year ago

stockport

My opinion is no she shouldnt be aloud back. If her husband hadn't of been killed she would still be there living the life. Dhe lived the life of isis and dont regret it so shes going to be the same there or here. I have had friends killed by these people and i see the hurt their familys have had to suffer not seeing them again. so i think her family should get that and not be aloud to see her again she should be tryed for war crimes and sentenced to prison in the country shes in

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Just playing Cecil's advocate here but are we a country of an eye for an eye?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Haha devil's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Didn't the UK pass a law making it a crime for a British citizen to take part in the caliphate?

I guess she is looking at a stretch in the pokey if she comes back.

And why should the British tax payer pay for her incarceration?

Better being locked up than on the loose?

Legally, I don't think a country can make a citizen stateless (unless they are of dual nationality).

These people are a legal nightmare for the government.

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I think the Syrian regime will not be letting them loose any time soon.

And technicaly she isnt stateless shes a citizen of the Islamic state

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just playing Cecil's advocate here but are we a country of an eye for an eye? "

Yes obviously. we have laws where if you dont do as your told you're forcibly removed from the population.

Although im not sure what "eye for an eye" ould be in this case, we all move to her neighbourhood and start a civil war beheading people?

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead


"I believe most countries strip their nationals of their nationality when they join the ISIS.

So no she shouldn’t be allowed back. And anyone who starts spouting about her human rights should think about the human rights of all of those who have been killed in terrorist incidents conducted by or in the name of Isis

Happy fabbing everyone "

Totally agree

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


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I think the Syrian regime will not be letting them loose any time soon.

And technicaly she isnt stateless shes a citizen of the Islamic state "

Islamic State is a figment of imagination in the human mind - it does not exist in law.

Russia had a far bigger problem than the UK with citizens from its southern provinces heading to Syria and Iraq.

That was one of the reasons it joined forces with the Syria government to wipe out the jihadis.

I suspect the Russians won't be taking any prisoners.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I think the Syrian regime will not be letting them loose any time soon.

And technicaly she isnt stateless shes a citizen of the Islamic state

Islamic State is a figment of imagination in the human mind - it does not exist in law.

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Neither does Taiwan but i dont see you claiming they are a figment of imagination

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Just playing Cecil's advocate here but are we a country of an eye for an eye?

Yes obviously. we have laws where if you dont do as your told you're forcibly removed from the population.

Although im not sure what "eye for an eye" ould be in this case, we all move to her neighbourhood and start a civil war beheading people?

"

What I mean is everyone saying how she'll get housing etc when she gets here but there are men and women on the street. Should we let her back but add her to the homeless figures, and her unborn child?

People saying that her family should suffer the hurt that other families have felt when loved ones died fighting isis etc.

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By *mandajane01TV/TS
over a year ago

Ballymena

No absolutely not, she is not one bit remorseful

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

I believe that anyone that leaves the uk to join a regime like Isis have made their choice and it shouldn't be reversible.

Allowing people back who have probably been radicalised just seems like a foolish thing to do for the safety and security of our country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She's a British citizen, of course she should be welcome back. Put in prison, child put into care. "

Not welcomed back but I agree with the rest.

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By *he SurveyorMan
over a year ago

Bury

The government should take this opportunity and send a message that this is not acceptably.

Give her the hardest time and the strongest sentence.

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By *eriousGuyABCMan
over a year ago

( WEST OF ) Chippenham ish

She left the country to join with "IS" but because it hasn't worked out for her or whatever reason she wants to come back, TOUGH ! She may be coming back under false pretence to do her "IS" work here ??? Or if not she made her decision to leave her life here !

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds


"The government should take this opportunity and send a message that this is not acceptably.

Give her the hardest time and the strongest sentence."

But if she comes to jail here, we are paying to keep her, just don't let her back in.

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By *etite HandfulWoman
over a year ago

Chester

I am more concerned she has no regrets about going and still is supportive of isis. I would say in the interests of the country its best to deny her a return.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire


"Pulls up a chair, this won't end well...."

No

None of the 800 plus people who went to fight against the U.K. and represented Isis should ever be allowed back, they made their choices

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately! "

Deported to where?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I am more concerned she has no regrets about going and still is supportive of isis. I would say in the interests of the country its best to deny her a return."

Yup, this.

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By *cd and scruffCouple
over a year ago

Rochester

No. There could be a number of reasons for coming back. She has the life she chose she can keep it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think she should be back in unless they say right you can come back in but you have to do 10 - 20 years in jail and your child goes into care...simple as that!!

People saying people who have isis links should be deported....if they are British born where are you planning on deporting them too?

They should just go straight to prison

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

She has no remorse or regret just wants the benefits of our society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She made her choice, seems to me she wants to get back to give birth.

What value does this person add to out country ??? I'm happy enough with immigration if they have a skill or talent we need here, in my opinion this person brings nothing to our party.

Pull up the drawbridge.

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By *anana JoeMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

Ok she is/was a British citizen!

But given a choice between someone who has joined and supports Isis or granting asylum to a heavily pregnant woman from Syria who has been made homeless through no fault of her own and isn't an Isis sympathiser I would choose he innocent asylum seeker.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

It depends.

Do you think the things she was saying in her interview were her true feelings when you take in to account that she has to remain there at the moment?

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

No!

She made her choice.

Let her stay in the country she chose, supporting the people she chose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

Hey terrorist terrorise my cock ya cunt

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Shoot the fucking bitch"

Bloody "fence sitter". Just tell us how you feel!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shoot the fucking bitch

Bloody "fence sitter". Just tell us how you feel!!"

A lot of people are scared to really say what they think in here,just incase they upset somebody somewhere,I really don't give a fuck,shoot that fucking bitch!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shoot the fucking bitch

Bloody "fence sitter". Just tell us how you feel!!

A lot of people are scared to really say what they think in here,just incase they upset somebody somewhere,I really don't give a fuck,shoot that fucking bitch!! "
im just trying not to break rules anymore

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shoot the fucking bitch

Bloody "fence sitter". Just tell us how you feel!!

A lot of people are scared to really say what they think in here,just incase they upset somebody somewhere,I really don't give a fuck,shoot that fucking bitch!! im just trying not to break rules anymore"

I haven't broke any rules I don't think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we let her in and she goes to jail.

Tax payers for her in there and also to look after her child.

If we let her in, she joins the benift crowd and yep tax payers pay for that.

Or..if she gets in and gets a job to support herself then mi5 would be spending thousands keeping tags on her. Tax payers lose again.

Basicly she fecked off to join isis, let them look after her and her child at their expense in their own country.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?"

Does the English channel count in a coffin

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

No

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds


"It depends.

Do you think the things she was saying in her interview were her true feelings when you take in to account that she has to remain there at the moment?

"

She agreed with Isis methods and ideology and decided to join, it's not like she's just changed her mind about her favourite band.

She believes/ believed in the hatred they peddle, there's an intrinsic lack of empathy and value of life in doing so.

I don't think she's changed, life would just be easier here, and she'd be well placed to start a cell of her own.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Don’t be surprised if she’s back and given a house new identity and benefits let her rot where ever she is nothing but a fucking traitor just feel for her unborn child being born to a thing like her

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By *iavoloCouple
over a year ago

Bexley/Buxton


"Ok she is/was a British citizen!

But given a choice between someone who has joined and supports Isis or granting asylum to a heavily pregnant woman from Syria who has been made homeless through no fault of her own and isn't an Isis sympathiser I would choose he innocent asylum seeker. "

Agreed there are more deserving people who deserve it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

It's a no from me, same with anyone who went to join them..

They've been fighting on Syrian or Iraqi land so let them be handed over to face their justice system..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately!

Deported to where?"

Don’t have to deport her she’s already there so just leave her there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't seen the story so I don't know her motivation.

If she has commited crimes, then there is an argument for punishment under international law.

If she was brainwashed, shipped out and is a supporter, but hasn't conducted any illegal activity, we are on sticky ground.

If we were to shoot people for supporting the ideals behind terrorism or for supporting a terrorist organisation, we would have a few spaces on the Parliamentary Benches (On both sides I would argue)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately!

Deported to where?

Don’t have to deport her she’s already there so just leave her there "

Someone mentioned in an earlier post about deporting them if they have isis links (not on about that woman) ...that's why I asked the question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh god !!!! A liberal leftie has just been on the radio and yes, you guessed it

When she left Britain she was 15 and adolescent, she's since been groomed, brutalized and all sorts, we should welcome her back for her own good.

That's lefties opinion.

Mine ???? Leave her to rot in hell.

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By *.A.MGUY55Man
over a year ago

Rochdale

You got to much time on your hands watching daytime tv

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By *edbath 5Man
over a year ago

london

What women let’s her child die of malnutrition. Evil people. Let her rot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No for me this is treason and half of the problem is that we have the terrorists amongst us hidden, we all have our beliefs but when you start taking innocent life’s like the Manchester incident then them beliefs become treason and that’s what these people beleive in eye for an eye I’d say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You got to much time on your hands watching daytime tv"

Big clue in my post RADIO

It can be listened to while working

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone checked to see if it is a genuine baby bump she is carrying

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By *ngelina4uWoman
over a year ago

Camberley/Middleton


"What women let’s her child die of malnutrition. Evil people. Let her rot. "

I really don't think she chose to do that if it was the case she wouldn't be trying to get over here so this one can be born here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No!

She made her choice.

Let her stay in the country she chose, supporting the people she chose.

"

Totally agree, she made her bed so now she should be made to lie in it, same goes for all the other morons that have CHOSEN to go there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What women let’s her child die of malnutrition. Evil people. Let her rot.

I really don't think she chose to do that if it was the case she wouldn't be trying to get over here so this one can be born here. "

Yes and then she can sponge off the state and not work another day in her life

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By *ondongreg79Man
over a year ago

london

Better to have them on the inside pissing out than the outside pissing in as they say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What women let’s her child die of malnutrition. Evil people. Let her rot.

I really don't think she chose to do that if it was the case she wouldn't be trying to get over here so this one can be born here. "

She chose to leave the safety and NHS of this country, she chose to join Isis, she chose "liaisons" with the man who got her pregnant. She's as guilty of killing her own child as if she strangl*d it herself.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What women let’s her child die of malnutrition. Evil people. Let her rot.

I really don't think she chose to do that if it was the case she wouldn't be trying to get over here so this one can be born here.

She chose to leave the safety and NHS of this country, she chose to join Isis, she chose "liaisons" with the man who got her pregnant. She's as guilty of killing her own child as if she strangl*d it herself. "

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

but isn't she only wanting back in due to been pregnant? and ad she has said she has no remorse for what she has done

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

No way, She only wants to use the NHS. Her world’s “she don’t regret going”!

UK NEEDS TO START STICKING UP AND SORT THIS COUNTRY OUT.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

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Age has nothing to do with it! I'm sure at 15 if someone I was hanging around with wanted to chope of someones head I would of thought you've got issues mate! At the end of the day she chose to run with the terrorists, it was all over the media what they was doing too people out there! But now the bubble has burst she wants to come home. If ISIS was still going strong today would she still be wanting to come home I doubt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

War is cruel. She got sucked into it and now realises that she misses the comforts of the lifestyle and system Isis is opposed to. She is a victim of war just as much as the thousands of people she has probably helped to kill. The real criminals in all this are the corrupt governments of this world and the decisions they have made over the centuries which have divided people and created hostility and hate. Colonialists, who are historically white western men, have created a world in which anyone who is not white and not Christian is a second class citizen. The violence and tyranny across the world now is a consequence of years of imperialism.

The western world is about to do to Venezuala what it did to Iraq. Why? Because the west want control of their natural resources.

This girl is a stupid idiot but she is not responsible for the state of the world.

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS
over a year ago

Cornwall


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

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yeah right ...except she is still spouting the same shite at 19 ...

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over a year ago


"War is cruel. She got sucked into it and now realises that she misses the comforts of the lifestyle and system Isis is opposed to. She is a victim of war just as much as the thousands of people she has probably helped to kill. The real criminals in all this are the corrupt governments of this world and the decisions they have made over the centuries which have divided people and created hostility and hate. Colonialists, who are historically white western men, have created a world in which anyone who is not white and not Christian is a second class citizen. The violence and tyranny across the world now is a consequence of years of imperialism.

The western world is about to do to Venezuala what it did to Iraq. Why? Because the west want control of their natural resources.

This girl is a stupid idiot but she is not responsible for the state of the world."

No probably not but she is responsible for her actions and a potential danger to the people in the UK so she is where she chose to be let her stay there.

As others have said if there are places for people to come to in the UK there are more deserving people seeking entry.

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?"

No, she smells

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

Age has nothing to do with it! I'm sure at 15 if someone I was hanging around with wanted to chope of someones head I would of thought you've got issues mate! At the end of the day she chose to run with the terrorists, it was all over the media what they was doing too people out there! But now the bubble has burst she wants to come home. If ISIS was still going strong today would she still be wanting to come home I doubt it "

Age has everything to do with this.. if she makes the decision at 25 rather than 15 I would agree, and if you remember the original story she was one of the 3 schoolgirls groomed by recruiters....

Heck if I didn’t make the decision I made at 15 I’d probably be dead now, I had to have it pointed out to me that for as smart a kid as I was I was also a cocky mouthy kid who didn’t stand down to anyone, and that if I had stayed in nyc at that point there were probably bullets with my name on them and I wasn’t bulletproof!

So yeah.... I hated decisions made at 15, I wouldn’t want my life dictated by one

So like I said.... IF the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the public or the nation, then yes allow her back

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

How about this: We swap her and her unborn baby with (Sir) Philip Green and John Venables?...

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

No she is a terrorist and is married to one ,she's made her choice and has no regrets in joining a terrorist group so let her stay were she is ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we need to build a wall...and the EU should pay for it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No but knowing this country will let her back give her benefits and a flat me personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"we need to build a wall...and the EU should pay for it . "

Tall tall tall big as wall wall wall big as a tall tall tall..... Sorry I went back in time then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No but knowing this country will let her back give her benefits and a flat me personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole "

you'd give a Polish person a head transplant?

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By *ardiffCoupleNJCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd/Rhyfelin


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

Age has nothing to do with it! I'm sure at 15 if someone I was hanging around with wanted to chope of someones head I would of thought you've got issues mate! At the end of the day she chose to run with the terrorists, it was all over the media what they was doing too people out there! But now the bubble has burst she wants to come home. If ISIS was still going strong today would she still be wanting to come home I doubt it

Age has everything to do with this.. if she makes the decision at 25 rather than 15 I would agree, and if you remember the original story she was one of the 3 schoolgirls groomed by recruiters....

Heck if I didn’t make the decision I made at 15 I’d probably be dead now, I had to have it pointed out to me that for as smart a kid as I was I was also a cocky mouthy kid who didn’t stand down to anyone, and that if I had stayed in nyc at that point there were probably bullets with my name on them and I wasn’t bulletproof!

So yeah.... I hated decisions made at 15, I wouldn’t want my life dictated by one

So like I said.... IF the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the public or the nation, then yes allow her back "

A sensible answer that appeals to compassion.

But there are more fundamental issues here & I seriously wonder what thought processes are going on when I read some of the comments.

Shes our problem. She's British. Radicalised in Britain. Where do you think she should be sent? They don't want her where she is now. So where normal rules of law apply she would be deported ....back to where she came from i.e. Britain.

Am I comfortable with that? No.

But we can't wash our hands of the problem. Look at it rationally. If a Brit was convicted of a serious offence in any other country, & was convicted under local laws, they would serve time, then be deported back to the UK. Indeed often they are deported early & serve out their time in a British prison under prisoner exchange schemes.

What's different here?

We probably none of us like it, but trying to export our problems to the rest of the world in the way we do plastic or industrial waste really is so last century.

Its been a few years since we've been able to export people in that way to the old penal colonies, although it would seem many think we still can.

The only place they can go is back to the UK. If they acted illegally, throw the book at them and let them serve time.

This is a political headache for many governments not that politics shows any sign of being able to solve anything at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was just wondering if she is married does her husband have a right to join his wife in the UK ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She won’t be allowed to fly anywhere at 9 months pregnant so she won’t be coming here until after the birth. Which makes the baby a Syrian National as opposed to British.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The dad is Dutch the Mum is British. .The baby??

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole "

We used to do that people here. In the name of religion. It's so yesterday.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Funny, reading the first few posts brought an Alexander Pope quote to mind:

To err is human, to forgive, divine.

Of course she should be allowed return, however she must atone for her sins and accept that it will be a long time (if ever) before she earns our trust.

Also a quote attributed to Christ sprung to mind when I read one post that made a none too subtle reference to crucifixion (six inch nails):

"Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about some nice kind words and maternity leave when she returns home. That would surprise her and maybe decide it wasn''t such a good idea to go over to Syria after all. Trouble is 2 wrongs do not make a right. We probably need to turn the other cheek in this case and show we are not barbarians too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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And technicaly she isnt stateless shes a citizen of the Islamic state "

Unfortunately Islamic State isn't a recognised State in the standard accepted means of a state so therefore she can't be stripped of her British citizenship if that is all she has.

We could bring her back and let the Courts and Jury decide if she's committed treason.

The big problem seems to be that she has no regrets and her hatred against anything none Islamic isn't something that should be welcomed with open arms.

Bring her back, hang her or 50 years imprisonment minimum & the kid goes into care or refuse her entry but she'd probably worm her way back in anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

"

Thing is she's an adult now and still believes in what she did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't the Falklands still British... i dont think there's any isis cells there she can chat with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I’m afraid she should.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a, shes not a schoolgirl as OP says, she 19. b, she has stated she has no regrets.. As someone previously said,more deserving asylum seekers trying to escape Asad the butcher of Syria

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

"

I agree.

Except, 4 years on, she is no longer an "innocent schoolgirl".

She says she still believes in the ideology of ISIS.

She has seen dustbins full of severed heads of prisoners, and it "didn't bother her".

She lost two children to malnutrition and illness, and states the ONLY reason she wants to come back is so her next child will get better care.

So, if we let her back, she will be a threat, and her child will be a future threat.

Let her rot where she is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck NO!!

She made her choice.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

I agree.

Except, 4 years on, she is no longer an "innocent schoolgirl".

She says she still believes in the ideology of ISIS.

She has seen dustbins full of severed heads of prisoners, and it "didn't bother her".

She lost two children to malnutrition and illness, and states the ONLY reason she wants to come back is so her next child will get better care.

So, if we let her back, she will be a threat, and her child will be a future threat.

Let her rot where she is."

Glad I scrolled to the end to post as you've said it all!

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

I agree.

Except, 4 years on, she is no longer an "innocent schoolgirl".

She says she still believes in the ideology of ISIS.

She has seen dustbins full of severed heads of prisoners, and it "didn't bother her".

She lost two children to malnutrition and illness, and states the ONLY reason she wants to come back is so her next child will get better care.

So, if we let her back, she will be a threat, and her child will be a future threat.

Let her rot where she is."

I was going to comment but you pretty much said exactly what I was thinking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm human but I'm not divine. Fuck her, and anyone that supports her. She made her choices, now she should live by them.

What about our sons, daughters, brothers and sisters that have been maimed and lost due to such choices?

Those without sin my arse! Pass me the fucking stones, I'll get the party started!

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By *.A.MGUY55Man
over a year ago

Rochdale

Sorry didn't think about radio

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole

We used to do that people here. In the name of religion. It's so yesterday.and your point is what something's should be fetched back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think she should be back in unless they say right you can come back in but you have to do 10 - 20 years in jail and your child goes into care...simple as that!!

People saying people who have isis links should be deported....if they are British born where are you planning on deporting them too?

They should just go straight to prison"
all good but why should we pay just chop there head's of and feed them to the pigs that would help there after life

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

No she shows no sign of remorse and if she is worried about her baby when born she should find a way to send it to England but she should not come back no way.

She discusts me

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

This is going to be controversial but....

.....as she is a British citizen, then we have to let her back in. I don't like it any more than most on here, but we can't have a "pick and mix" attitude to justice.

The problems will begin if and when she gets back. There will be hundreds of extremists that will want to make her life a misery. I just can't see her being safe here.

It could be her apparent lack of remorse is just to stay safe where she is at the present. Maybe contrition will come later but I can just see her selling her story for tens of thousands of pounds and becoming a cult figure amongst similar minded.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole

We used to do that people here. In the name of religion. It's so yesterday.and your point is what something's should be fetched back

"

My point is that if you behave like them, you become them.

We despise their way of life, because we have moved on from that sort of savagery.

We resist them because their values are not our values.

Adopt their values and what becomes the point of it all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohhh it's getting all excited

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?"

She's no regrets joining isis.

No dhe shouldn't be allowed back for dame reasons as others, due to the risk of terror attacks

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Keep her out for good

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

If they let her come here ...who will pay for her ...no doubt she will soon have a house and bennies

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By *andm288Couple
over a year ago

oxford

No way she made her choice she has to live with it

She freely joined a terrorist group

Now she wants to come back to have a baby & get on benefits

No way

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

I find it hilarious reading the posts of the keyboard warriors here.

Lets be straight, I am no pacifist, in fact I am 1 of the 3% (if you don't know what they are google it). I have multiple 4 month tours of NI and a trip to the Falklands in 82 behind me, so I know what I am talking about. You may all think you are angry now, but unless you have been in battle you don't know what anger is. When I returned from the Falklands and left the forces I was so angry people used to cross the street and move away from me everywhere because I was dangerous. But I did not know it, if you had asked me at the time I would have told you I was fine (because I thought I was fine), that is the nature of brutalisation.

I expect this girl falls into that category. She deserves pity and help to recover and reintegrate. Obviously she can't be trusted and there must be a legal reckoning, but regardless of her stated motivation she has asked for help and we should not shun her.

Stop being so willing to brutalise yourselves in order to continue the brutalization of others because these things have a habit of returning with interest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, they can keep her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some are so easily triggered..

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"In all serious anyone with any ISIS links should be deported immediately!

Agree with this. She only wants to come back because shes pregnant and lost 2 babies already.

If someone's only citizenship is British, where do you deport them to?

There isn't a global dump for unwanted people.

Unless you count Guantanamo Bay, I guess.

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dont need to deport her just leave her where she wanted to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some are so easily triggered.. "

So are IEDs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole

We used to do that people here. In the name of religion. It's so yesterday.and your point is what something's should be fetched back

My point is that if you behave like them, you become them.

We despise their way of life, because we have moved on from that sort of savagery.

We resist them because their values are not our values.

Adopt their values and what becomes the point of it all?"
I just believe in revenge simples as some have said eye for a eye even kill the unborn eradicate the vermin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it hilarious reading the posts of the keyboard warriors here.

Lets be straight, I am no pacifist, in fact I am 1 of the 3% (if you don't know what they are google it). I have multiple 4 month tours of NI and a trip to the Falklands in 82 behind me, so I know what I am talking about. You may all think you are angry now, but unless you have been in battle you don't know what anger is. When I returned from the Falklands and left the forces I was so angry people used to cross the street and move away from me everywhere because I was dangerous. But I did not know it, if you had asked me at the time I would have told you I was fine (because I thought I was fine), that is the nature of brutalisation.

I expect this girl falls into that category. She deserves pity and help to recover and reintegrate. Obviously she can't be trusted and there must be a legal reckoning, but regardless of her stated motivation she has asked for help and we should not shun her.

Stop being so willing to brutalise yourselves in order to continue the brutalization of others because these things have a habit of returning with interest."

So you learnt nothing from the army regarding containing and dealing with potential threats then? She was the one involved in the brutalisation of others and now she's realising (hopefully) the consequences of her inhumanity.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I think the majority for ignoring her is quite strong in here.

Thing is, she is one. How many more to follow?

The Russians are behind the Syrians wiping out the last shitholes.

The caliphate soon will be homeless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately for fab forum members you don’t set the rules. She’s a British citizen so we have no choice but to let her back in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Unfortunately for fab forum members you don’t set the rules. She’s a British citizen so we have no choice but to let her back in."

No, but she can be denied any kind of assistance quite legally, and be arrested the moment she steps foot on British soil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it hilarious reading the posts of the keyboard warriors here.

Lets be straight, I am no pacifist, in fact I am 1 of the 3% (if you don't know what they are google it). I have multiple 4 month tours of NI and a trip to the Falklands in 82 behind me, so I know what I am talking about. You may all think you are angry now, but unless you have been in battle you don't know what anger is. When I returned from the Falklands and left the forces I was so angry people used to cross the street and move away from me everywhere because I was dangerous. But I did not know it, if you had asked me at the time I would have told you I was fine (because I thought I was fine), that is the nature of brutalisation.

I expect this girl falls into that category. She deserves pity and help to recover and reintegrate. Obviously she can't be trusted and there must be a legal reckoning, but regardless of her stated motivation she has asked for help and we should not shun her.

Stop being so willing to brutalise yourselves in order to continue the brutalization of others because these things have a habit of returning with interest."

Fair play to you. Respect due!

I still don't see how were brutalising ourselves by not letting her back. She's not had a change of heart or suddenly seen the light! We're talking about whether she should be allowed back into this country after leaving to support people that despise and hate us. How is that acceptable. The country is skint, front line services have been cut and she shouldn't even be given air time!

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

No

She made her decision to leave and support a country that despise Britain, in no circumstances should she be allowed to return!

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"personally I'd let her in and the moment she was through the gates chop her head off and stick it on a pole

We used to do that people here. In the name of religion. It's so yesterday.and your point is what something's should be fetched back

My point is that if you behave like them, you become them.

We despise their way of life, because we have moved on from that sort of savagery.

We resist them because their values are not our values.

Adopt their values and what becomes the point of it all?I just believe in revenge simples as some have said eye for a eye even kill the unborn eradicate the vermin"

Kill the unborn? Nice to see the British value of tolerance shining through there.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London


"I would have agreed with a lot of you except for one thing

At the time she went she was only 15...

For as hardline as some of you are I would hate to be defined by a decision i made when essentially I was a kid

How many of you would like to be defined by a decision made at that age? I am guessing not many!

You could have called me an idiot when I was 15, I’d like to think I have grown up since then.... although you know men!

If the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the nation or the public, then I don’t see how you can’t help her in that circumstance

Age has nothing to do with it! I'm sure at 15 if someone I was hanging around with wanted to chope of someones head I would of thought you've got issues mate! At the end of the day she chose to run with the terrorists, it was all over the media what they was doing too people out there! But now the bubble has burst she wants to come home. If ISIS was still going strong today would she still be wanting to come home I doubt it

Age has everything to do with this.. if she makes the decision at 25 rather than 15 I would agree, and if you remember the original story she was one of the 3 schoolgirls groomed by recruiters....

Heck if I didn’t make the decision I made at 15 I’d probably be dead now, I had to have it pointed out to me that for as smart a kid as I was I was also a cocky mouthy kid who didn’t stand down to anyone, and that if I had stayed in nyc at that point there were probably bullets with my name on them and I wasn’t bulletproof!

So yeah.... I hated decisions made at 15, I wouldn’t want my life dictated by one

So like I said.... IF the authorities do not deem her to be a threat to the public or the nation, then yes allow her back "

While normally fairly liberal I have to confess to be struggling on this one.

I agree that your choices as a minor shouldn't dictate your whole future. But her current lack of remorse is a big issue in my eyes.

I firmly believe in second chances, but only as long as people are committed to turning themselves around. If they truly don't give a shit then I struggle to as well.

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan
over a year ago

Sussex

Here's a little observation. Just under the BBC website article on the ISIS teen mum to be there's an article about how the RSPCA has received calls from all over the world offering to adopt a lonely Lurcher.

It seems we care more about an abandoned dog than a naive, miss adventurous young human.

#justsayin

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over a year ago


"Here's a little observation. Just under the BBC website article on the ISIS teen mum to be there's an article about how the RSPCA has received calls from all over the world offering to adopt a lonely Lurcher.

It seems we care more about an abandoned dog than a naive, miss adventurous young human.

#justsayin "
definitely hang the bitch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Syria has every right to deport the wife of a terrorist insurgent back to the Country of her Birth

Why should Syria have to deal with her ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a little observation. Just under the BBC website article on the ISIS teen mum to be there's an article about how the RSPCA has received calls from all over the world offering to adopt a lonely Lurcher.

It seems we care more about an abandoned dog than a naive, miss adventurous young human.

#justsayin "

I wouldn't adopt a lurcher who had joined an illegal terrorist force that causes suffering, misery and death to thousands of innocent people. He would be a very bad boy, yes he would.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"Here's a little observation. Just under the BBC website article on the ISIS teen mum to be there's an article about how the RSPCA has received calls from all over the world offering to adopt a lonely Lurcher.

It seems we care more about an abandoned dog than a naive, miss adventurous young human.

#justsayin "

Adopt the dog and you will have a loyal friend for life, I doubt you could say the same for this "naive, miss adventurous young human "!

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

I'm sure she has spotted the UK gravely chain ....yet again we will pay for her and the chavie ..soon the father another terrorist will appear....over here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think Syria has every right to deport the wife of a terrorist insurgent back to the Country of her Birth

Why should Syria have to deal with her ?"

Good point .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I find it hilarious reading the posts of the keyboard warriors here.

Lets be straight, I am no pacifist, in fact I am 1 of the 3% (if you don't know what they are google it). I have multiple 4 month tours of NI and a trip to the Falklands in 82 behind me, so I know what I am talking about. You may all think you are angry now, but unless you have been in battle you don't know what anger is. When I returned from the Falklands and left the forces I was so angry people used to cross the street and move away from me everywhere because I was dangerous. But I did not know it, if you had asked me at the time I would have told you I was fine (because I thought I was fine), that is the nature of brutalisation.

I expect this girl falls into that category. She deserves pity and help to recover and reintegrate. Obviously she can't be trusted and there must be a legal reckoning, but regardless of her stated motivation she has asked for help and we should not shun her.

Stop being so willing to brutalise yourselves in order to continue the brutalization of others because these things have a habit of returning with interest."
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glad you find it hilarious..no one else does. Shes 19 shes not a 'girl'as you misleadingly say,and as for 'regardless of her stated motivation'are you serious,Keneth Biggleys relatives would not agree with that bizarre statement.As i stated previously some Falklands vets are left rough sleeping..she wouldn't be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think Syria has every right to deport the wife of a terrorist insurgent back to the Country of her Birth

Why should Syria have to deal with her ?

Good point . "

So if a white right-wing supremacist went to the US, joined the KKK and was complicit in the suffering and deaths of thousands of black Americans, the US should have no right to prosecute and/or punish that person but should send them home to the UK? This woman did this in Syria, to Syrian people. Those wronged should have a voice, and they are mainly Syrians. Just because their culture is different from ours, we shouldn't ignore it.

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex


"I think Syria has every right to deport the wife of a terrorist insurgent back to the Country of her Birth

Why should Syria have to deal with her ?

Good point .

So if a white right-wing supremacist went to the US, joined the KKK and was complicit in the suffering and deaths of thousands of black Americans, the US should have no right to prosecute and/or punish that person but should send them home to the UK? This woman did this in Syria, to Syrian people. Those wronged should have a voice, and they are mainly Syrians. Just because their culture is different from ours, we shouldn't ignore it."

Try her in Syria , Sentence her in Syria , then send her back to the place she was born to pay for it.

Syria has paid enough already for the actions of this British Person

I dont see why they should have to pay for her incarceration as well.

Send her back to the place of her birth so they can deal with her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a little observation. Just under the BBC website article on the ISIS teen mum to be there's an article about how the RSPCA has received calls from all over the world offering to adopt a lonely Lurcher.

It seems we care more about an abandoned dog than a naive, miss adventurous young human.

#justsayin "
I totally agree that we often care more for animals than humans.

However, naive, miss adventurous young human who isn't bothered by the sight of severed heads? Really!

Get some nuts!!

She should not be allowed to return to our country. I've no malice towards her innocent unborn child, but she doesn't deserve to walk out streets. There's no remorse or regret shown by her.

At some point, someone has to stand up, be counted and say "enough is enough"!

She turned her back on her country, friends, schoolmates etc, to go and join the enemy of democracy, equal rights, gay rights and peace across our modern fucked up world. Get to fuck!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"I think Syria has every right to deport the wife of a terrorist insurgent back to the Country of her Birth

Why should Syria have to deal with her ?

Good point . "
maybe you could put her up at s yours bob lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here's a little observation. Just under the BBC website article on the ISIS teen mum to be there's an article about how the RSPCA has received calls from all over the world offering to adopt a lonely Lurcher.

It seems we care more about an abandoned dog than a naive, miss adventurous young human.

#justsayin I totally agree that we often care more for animals than humans.

However, naive, miss adventurous young human who isn't bothered by the sight of severed heads? Really!

Get some nuts!!

She should not be allowed to return to our country. I've no malice towards her innocent unborn child, but she doesn't deserve to walk out streets. There's no remorse or regret shown by her.

At some point, someone has to stand up, be counted and say "enough is enough"!

She turned her back on her country, friends, schoolmates etc, to go and join the enemy of democracy, equal rights, gay rights and peace across our modern fucked up world. Get to fuck!"

Here here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think Syria has every right to deport the wife of a terrorist insurgent back to the Country of her Birth

Why should Syria have to deal with her ?

Good point .

So if a white right-wing supremacist went to the US, joined the KKK and was complicit in the suffering and deaths of thousands of black Americans, the US should have no right to prosecute and/or punish that person but should send them home to the UK? This woman did this in Syria, to Syrian people. Those wronged should have a voice, and they are mainly Syrians. Just because their culture is different from ours, we shouldn't ignore it.

Try her in Syria , Sentence her in Syria , then send her back to the place she was born to pay for it.

Syria has paid enough already for the actions of this British Person

I dont see why they should have to pay for her incarceration as well.

Send her back to the place of her birth so they can deal with her."

For Britain to carry out the sentence imposed by a Syrian court? You must be joking. An increase in financial aid to Syria to pay for this sort of thing would probably be cheaper and would certainly be less problematic.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I see some are getting themselves all worked up with a revenge torture/death fantasy.

I can almost hear the fapping.....

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"I see some are getting themselves all worked up with a revenge torture/death fantasy.

I can almost hear the fapping....."
so what would you do then let me guess give her a nice big cuddle say there there lol

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"I see some are getting themselves all worked up with a revenge torture/death fantasy.

I can almost hear the fapping..... so what would you do then let me guess give her a nice big cuddle say there there lol"

I think you've missed my point.

My point isn't about whether we should let her back or not, my point is about the many and varied fantasy deaths that people are suggesting she/her unborn child should get, and how their brutality appears to get some people on here frothing with excitement....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunatley she will be let back in but sure we take back our British murderers,rapists,paedos and drug traffickers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should she be allowed back into britan ?"

I find it interesting that it's only now when ISIS is being reported as being a lost cause, in retreat and they are in Syrian custody (for the want of a better word) that she, Jack Letts and others want to return. It would seem the dream they were sold may be over. But no, I don't think they should have an automatic right to be able to return and j

continue their lives. What I find tragic is how easily and readily these teenagers were sold and followed a dream without realising there may be the consequences. (Her)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I see some are getting themselves all worked up with a revenge torture/death fantasy.

I can almost hear the fapping..... so what would you do then let me guess give her a nice big cuddle say there there lol

I think you've missed my point.

My point isn't about whether we should let her back or not, my point is about the many and varied fantasy deaths that people are suggesting she/her unborn child should get, and how their brutality appears to get some people on here frothing with excitement....

"

It's a good Brexit distraction

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

It's a bit pervy to suggest ppl are wanking off with excitement over such a topic! Omg

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"I see some are getting themselves all worked up with a revenge torture/death fantasy.

I can almost hear the fapping....."
lol

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I see some are getting themselves all worked up with a revenge torture/death fantasy.

I can almost hear the fapping..... so what would you do then let me guess give her a nice big cuddle say there there lol

I think you've missed my point.

My point isn't about whether we should let her back or not, my point is about the many and varied fantasy deaths that people are suggesting she/her unborn child should get, and how their brutality appears to get some people on here frothing with excitement....

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They miss the irony.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

I suspect that if the Syrian government decided that they didn't want her, they would be perfectly within their rights to put her on a plane for England and refuse to have her back. When she gets here she is a problem for our government to sort out however best they want.

This is in fact exactly what we do with foreign nationals who do bad things here. We punish them in whatever way our courts decide, then at the end of their sentence we put them on a plane back to their country of origin. We then leave it up to that country to do whatever they want with them.

There is no legal method by which we can prevent a UK citizen from returning to the UK, no matter how undesirable they are. We don't have to throw a party for them, and if they have committed any crime that we have jurisdiction over, then we should prosecute them to the full extent applicable under our law. But it is our problem to apply our law.

Of course if this appalling person at any time officially relinquished her UK citizenship and became a citizen of some other country, it is that country she must go to, and be their problem.

Just dumping her in the sea is not an option, nor should we wish it to be. We should expect her to be treated within the letter of our laws, no more, no less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suspect that if the Syrian government decided that they didn't want her, they would be perfectly within their rights to put her on a plane for England and refuse to have her back. When she gets here she is a problem for our government to sort out however best they want.

This is in fact exactly what we do with foreign nationals who do bad things here. We punish them in whatever way our courts decide, then at the end of their sentence we put them on a plane back to their country of origin. We then leave it up to that country to do whatever they want with them.

There is no legal method by which we can prevent a UK citizen from returning to the UK, no matter how undesirable they are. We don't have to throw a party for them, and if they have committed any crime that we have jurisdiction over, then we should prosecute them to the full extent applicable under our law. But it is our problem to apply our law.

Of course if this appalling person at any time officially relinquished her UK citizenship and became a citizen of some other country, it is that country she must go to, and be their problem.

Just dumping her in the sea is not an option, nor should we wish it to be. We should expect her to be treated within the letter of our laws, no more, no less."

No its not "exactly what we do" we have treaties regarding this.

If the other country just says no, civil airliner isn't going to play chicken with a fighter jet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also remember the uk did take part in things like extraordinary rendition etc so a basement execution in Egypt has precedent for uk practice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh bless you’re all still ranting. She’s a British citizen, if she wants to return we can’t stop her.

Reality is a bitch.

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By *inkywife1981Couple
over a year ago

A town near you

I'm sure I've read elsewhere that that many jihadi brides had ready returned home, as will she eventually no doubt.

Some human rights group or another will advocate for her sage return etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To all of you who say no, do you hold the same to be true of the British citizens who go off to fight for other armies and countries?

A prime example is young kids who go off to do a couple of years in the IDF, brutally repressing the Palestinian people.

I assume you all agree that we should remove their citizenship too?

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"I suspect that if the Syrian government decided that they didn't want her, they would be perfectly within their rights to put her on a plane for England and refuse to have her back. When she gets here she is a problem for our government to sort out however best they want.

This is in fact exactly what we do with foreign nationals who do bad things here. We punish them in whatever way our courts decide, then at the end of their sentence we put them on a plane back to their country of origin. We then leave it up to that country to do whatever they want with them.

There is no legal method by which we can prevent a UK citizen from returning to the UK, no matter how undesirable they are. We don't have to throw a party for them, and if they have committed any crime that we have jurisdiction over, then we should prosecute them to the full extent applicable under our law. But it is our problem to apply our law.

Of course if this appalling person at any time officially relinquished her UK citizenship and became a citizen of some other country, it is that country she must go to, and be their problem.

Just dumping her in the sea is not an option, nor should we wish it to be. We should expect her to be treated within the letter of our laws, no more, no less.

No its not "exactly what we do" we have treaties regarding this.

If the other country just says no, civil airliner isn't going to play chicken with a fighter jet."

It is just what we do with eg. illegal immigrants or foreigners who commit crimes here. Yes we do have systems of appeals for the ones who don't want to go, and with some countries we do have mutual agreements of what to do with people. But if a Syrian citizen comes here and commits a crime, then after whatever punishment our courts require here, we put them on a plane and dump them at an airport in Syria. There are even cases where someone of foreign origin has acquired UK citizenship but subsequently had it stripped, and again we just deport them back to their country of origin. What they do when they get there is not our problem.

Likewise if this woman is still legally a UK citizen, we cannot stop her arriving at an airport, showing her passport and walking in. And if she was UK born and the Syrian government legally conclude that she has no right to stay there, we cannot stop them deporting her back to the UK. We can and should then arrest her if anything she has done constitutes a crime which our courts have jurisdiction over. That is a matter for our law to decide. But we cannot stop her coming in, and cannot prosecute her, unless there is evidence of an actual crime against UK law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She doesn't regret her choices or the isis lifestyle, even sounding psychopathic at times talking about how normalised killing and beheadings are over there and how she only wants back in the UK to give birth and have access to healthcare for her child.

She can't even be bothered to pretend like she made a mistake, so no, she shouldn't, only way she can come back is if she's placed under immediate arrest.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Didn't Kennedy once say something along the lines of "Think not about what your country can do for you, think about what you can do for your country".

What was said about society 55 years ago still holds true in my honest opinion.

Now ask.....with what is she likely to provide the society that she abandoned and still she has no regret or remorse?

Some may say she was young when she went out. She isn't young now and still maintains her loyalty to Daesh.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

In an ideal world, and in my opinion she should stay where she is. She doesn't appear to show any remorse and that is a major concern. Her family think she's being maligned and in denial: another worry. I think she'll be a danger.

Unfortunately, as a British citizen she will be allowed back and helped by a country she despises. She will in all likely be better catered for than law abiding citizens, that's going to rankle, BIG time.

That said, I can't make the leap of wanting her and her "barstad" child dead. That would put me on par with her and the extreme ideology she believes in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She shouldn't be allowed back into Britain. She knew what she was getting involved with and now should pay the price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In an ideal world, and in my opinion she should stay where she is. She doesn't appear to show any remorse and that is a major concern. Her family think she's being maligned and in denial: another worry. I think she'll be a danger.

Unfortunately, as a British citizen she will be allowed back and helped by a country she despises. She will in all likely be better catered for than law abiding citizens, that's going to rankle, BIG time.

That said, I can't make the leap of wanting her and her "barstad" child dead. That would put me on par with her and the extreme ideology she believes in. "
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Well said.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"In an ideal world, and in my opinion she should stay where she is. She doesn't appear to show any remorse and that is a major concern. Her family think she's being maligned and in denial: another worry. I think she'll be a danger.

Unfortunately, as a British citizen she will be allowed back and helped by a country she despises. She will in all likely be better catered for than law abiding citizens, that's going to rankle, BIG time.

That said, I can't make the leap of wanting her and her "barstad" child dead. That would put me on par with her and the extreme ideology she believes in. "

yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In an ideal world, and in my opinion she should stay where she is. She doesn't appear to show any remorse and that is a major concern. Her family think she's being maligned and in denial: another worry. I think she'll be a danger.

Unfortunately, as a British citizen she will be allowed back and helped by a country she despises. She will in all likely be better catered for than law abiding citizens, that's going to rankle, BIG time.

That said, I can't make the leap of wanting her and her "barstad" child dead. That would put me on par with her and the extreme ideology she believes in. "

We won't be as bad as the jihadis though. She's got what her isis caliphate didn't spare. She's been spsred her life. She's in a refugee camp in syria and will be looked after there.

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