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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!?" Yep - isn't he "Sir"? #iambackingbritain Wasn't he one of centaur's heroes? | |||
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!? Yep - isn't he "Sir"? #iambackingbritain Wasn't he one of centaur's heroes?" He will find a way to twist this into some kind of semantic triumph by quoting some anti EU “economist” who says some nonsense about uk doing better without hoovers. | |||
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"He will find a way to twist this into some kind of semantic triumph by quoting some anti EU “economist” who says some nonsense about uk doing better without hoovers." "A great opportunity for the British dustpan and brush industry" | |||
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!?" Oh you mean business men operating their business to stay profitable. The devil incarnate  | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK." Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone... | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. " If you read his book you'd see that he operates a gourmet canteen and treats staff very well. Jobs there are highly sought after. But don't let the truth stand in the way of the low resolution theory of rich people stealing everyone else's lunch money. | |||
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!? Oh you mean business men operating their business to stay profitable. The devil incarnate "Only the 2 faced ones  | |||
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!? Oh you mean business men operating their business to stay profitable. The devil incarnate
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!? Oh you mean business men operating their business to stay profitable. The devil incarnate
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It's wise to reassess any situation "Agree with you there, time to cancel Brexit  | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK. Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone..." Have you read the press release? | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK. Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone... Have you read the press release?" Yep, I also work for an International business and I know how it all works. The UK is now merely a subsidiary that does what Singapore drives. The centre of gravity for the business is moving east, so decisions will be made there and new jobs will be created there to lead the company. | |||
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!? Oh you mean business men operating their business to stay profitable. The devil incarnate
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. " Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. If you read his book you'd see that he operates a gourmet canteen and treats staff very well. Jobs there are highly sought after. But don't let the truth stand in the way of the low resolution theory of rich people stealing everyone else's lunch money. " I’ve been in there mate. That canteen ain’t “gourmet”. | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed" What “details” do you need? This is literally the whole point of Brexit! I mean where have you been hiding for the last three years. | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. If you read his book you'd see that he operates a gourmet canteen and treats staff very well. Jobs there are highly sought after. But don't let the truth stand in the way of the low resolution theory of rich people stealing everyone else's lunch money. I’ve been in there mate. That canteen ain’t “gourmet”." Fair enough  | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with... "and it will have nothing to do with the the trade deal singapore have just signed with the EU giving him better access to EU would get from here ?cynical me  | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with... and it will have nothing to do with the the trade deal singapore have just signed with the EU giving him better access to EU would get from here ?cynical me "Knowing the size of the greater China market I buy the argument. However as production was in Singapore anyway any FTAs (and SGP China would be more attractive) seems to be largely irrelevant. My guess is the quality of people. Singapore is taking steps to be at the forefront of tech. We just keep harking back to being a culture of innovative entrepreneurs with little infrastructure or evidence to support this ... | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed What “details” do you need? This is literally the whole point of Brexit! I mean where have you been hiding for the last three years." You know small details known as facts what rules and regs have been announced that the gov are going to axe, you have been asked before but never can point to one being removed | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK. Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone... Have you read the press release?" the other interesting "titbit" is that the EV division (the one that was going to make the prototype electrics cars) which was originally slated to be made in the uk... thats also going to singapore | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed What “details” do you need? This is literally the whole point of Brexit! I mean where have you been hiding for the last three years. You know small details known as facts what rules and regs have been announced that the gov are going to axe, you have been asked before but never can point to one being removed" What are you talking about? This information is in the public domain. Even the far right news papers like The Express have documented this. It’s no exactly a secret. There’s endless information out there, just google something like “what red tape do brexiteers want to cut”. There is a huge wealth of information out there. Why should it be my job to educate you? | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed What “details” do you need? This is literally the whole point of Brexit! I mean where have you been hiding for the last three years. You know small details known as facts what rules and regs have been announced that the gov are going to axe, you have been asked before but never can point to one being removed What are you talking about? This information is in the public domain. Even the far right news papers like The Express have documented this. It’s no exactly a secret. There’s endless information out there, just google something like “what red tape do brexiteers want to cut”. There is a huge wealth of information out there. Why should it be my job to educate you? " Typical evasion tactics, the only people who can change the rules are the government not anyone else. Here is what you posted I beleive But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. That admits the gov isnt proposing cutting any workers rights, you live in a dream world | |||
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"I'd not mind that awful wetherspoons guy to leave the UK too - though the pub could then perhaps be owned by someone else." Excellent idea, we can only hope  | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed What “details” do you need? This is literally the whole point of Brexit! I mean where have you been hiding for the last three years. You know small details known as facts what rules and regs have been announced that the gov are going to axe, you have been asked before but never can point to one being removed What are you talking about? This information is in the public domain. Even the far right news papers like The Express have documented this. It’s no exactly a secret. There’s endless information out there, just google something like “what red tape do brexiteers want to cut”. There is a huge wealth of information out there. Why should it be my job to educate you? Typical evasion tactics, the only people who can change the rules are the government not anyone else. Here is what you posted I beleive But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. That admits the gov isnt proposing cutting any workers rights, you live in a dream world" Aight. Feel free to keep your head buried in the sand screaming “project fear” at anyone that mentions what is going on in the world around us, while at the same time refusing to take in any information. Good luck in the rest of your life. | |||
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"I'd not mind that awful wetherspoons guy to leave the UK too - though the pub could then perhaps be owned by someone else. Excellent idea, we can only hope "Yeah he’s an awful prick too. | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK. Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone... Have you read the press release? the other interesting "titbit" is that the EV division (the one that was going to make the prototype electrics cars) which was originally slated to be made in the uk... thats also going to singapore" That was known about last October. The concepts will be made and tested in the UK, and prototype production models in Singapore. | |||
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"I'd not mind that awful wetherspoons guy to leave the UK too - though the pub could then perhaps be owned by someone else. Excellent idea, we can only hope
Yeah he’s an awful prick too. "He seems a revolting specimen of our race. He was in one of the Bristol pubs recently, wooing mid-morning drinkers and arguing with others who dislike him, probably as much as I do. He's another person who's been given too much coverage on the BBC and media, especially as he's got a track record of 'inaccuracy'. | |||
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"How much evidence do you need to understand the "low tax, low regulation" mantra of the Brextremists? How about Priti Patel: "If we could just halve the burdens of EU social and employment legislation, we could deliver a £4.3 billion boost to our economy and 60,000 jobs." " When has a government EVER reduced red tape ? Just put up one proposal from HMG to remove ANY workers rights | |||
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"How much evidence do you need to understand the "low tax, low regulation" mantra of the Brextremists? How about Priti Patel: "If we could just halve the burdens of EU social and employment legislation, we could deliver a £4.3 billion boost to our economy and 60,000 jobs." When has a government EVER reduced red tape ? Just put up one proposal from HMG to remove ANY workers rights" . Were a country that runs on red tape, we created an industry out of it after we closed all the other industries. That's life | |||
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"I'd not mind that awful wetherspoons guy to leave the UK too - though the pub could then perhaps be owned by someone else. Excellent idea, we can only hope
Yeah he’s an awful prick too.
He seems a revolting specimen of our race. He was in one of the Bristol pubs recently, wooing mid-morning drinkers and arguing with others who dislike him, probably as much as I do. He's another person who's been given too much coverage on the BBC and media, especially as he's got a track record of 'inaccuracy'. "I saw a clip of him on Question Time and nearly everything he said was incorrect bullshit and the host didn't bother to pick him up on any of it while the dumb audience were barking & clapping like fucking seals. | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted." Probably because he’s white. I assume he’s white if you’re on his side. I don’t see your lack of understanding, on why he promoted Brexit then decided to fuck off when it looks like he’s not going to be able to exploit his workers as much as he planned to, is especially relevant. | |||
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"How much evidence do you need to understand the "low tax, low regulation" mantra of the Brextremists? How about Priti Patel: "If we could just halve the burdens of EU social and employment legislation, we could deliver a £4.3 billion boost to our economy and 60,000 jobs." When has a government EVER reduced red tape ? Just put up one proposal from HMG to remove ANY workers rights" You hold on in there buddy. | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted." Being an advocate of Brexit making Britain great again and then moving HQ and business to Singapore doesn’t smack of hypocrisy? Of course he can do it, but should he? Its like JRM having set up a business in Ireland and various Brexiteers taking up dual citizenship. These guys talk about making Britain great, but it is just a sham to screw the rest of us  | |||
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"How much evidence do you need to understand the "low tax, low regulation" mantra of the Brextremists? How about Priti Patel: "If we could just halve the burdens of EU social and employment legislation, we could deliver a £4.3 billion boost to our economy and 60,000 jobs." When has a government EVER reduced red tape ? Just put up one proposal from HMG to remove ANY workers rights" If you believe Mrs May's vision of Brexit is the one we will be living in, say, three years' time, well I admire your confidence. We know the goal of the Brextremists in the Conservative Party and that is to undercut the competition by removing social and employment protections. The Johnsons, the Patersons, the Foxes, the Patels. It is fundamental to their vision of a Singapore in the North Sea. | |||
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"How much evidence do you need to understand the "low tax, low regulation" mantra of the Brextremists? How about Priti Patel: "If we could just halve the burdens of EU social and employment legislation, we could deliver a £4.3 billion boost to our economy and 60,000 jobs." When has a government EVER reduced red tape ? Just put up one proposal from HMG to remove ANY workers rights"  | |||
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"How much evidence do you need to understand the "low tax, low regulation" mantra of the Brextremists? How about Priti Patel: "If we could just halve the burdens of EU social and employment legislation, we could deliver a £4.3 billion boost to our economy and 60,000 jobs." When has a government EVER reduced red tape ? Just put up one proposal from HMG to remove ANY workers rights" But surely we will be reducing Eu red tape ... dont say will still have bendy banana regs ? And let’s be honest, no government advertises plans to reduce rights. Especially not a precariously balanced one ... | |||
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"so neither of you can put up a SINGLE proposed case of workers rights being reduced or removed." Seriously? If you cannot see the writing on the wall, the EU certainly can. That is why proposals such as the temporary deal on aviation is contingent on no reduction in employment rights in the UK. They read the speeches, the papers, the tweets by the Brextremists. Perhaps you should, too. | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted. Probably because he’s white. I assume he’s white if you’re on his side. I don’t see your lack of understanding, on why he promoted Brexit then decided to fuck off when it looks like he’s not going to be able to exploit his workers as much as he planned to, is especially relevant." What the fuck has the colour of his skin got to do with it? You've lost the plot fella. | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with... "Brexit is supposed to make the UK more international but a small band of remoaning cunts in the conservative party seem hell bent on keeping the UK imprisoned in the EU customs union. | |||
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"so neither of you can put up a SINGLE proposed case of workers rights being reduced or removed. Seriously? If you cannot see the writing on the wall, the EU certainly can. That is why proposals such as the temporary deal on aviation is contingent on no reduction in employment rights in the UK. They read the speeches, the papers, the tweets by the Brextremists. Perhaps you should, too." Well I have googled that condition and cant find, I think you have dreamed that up too, you obviously cant tell the difference between what the government has proposed and an individuals ideas, of course ALL eu rules are being transposed into uk law the day we leave so in any cse nothing will change until new laws are brought into change a single thing | |||
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" Brexit is supposed to make the UK more international " Bahahahahaha. Hahaha I actually laughed out loud. There is no way you're for real mate. You've been rumbled. | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted. Probably because he’s white. I assume he’s white if you’re on his side. I don’t see your lack of understanding, on why he promoted Brexit then decided to fuck off when it looks like he’s not going to be able to exploit his workers as much as he planned to, is especially relevant. What the fuck has the colour of his skin got to do with it? You've lost the plot fella. " I was making fun of that guy. He's the white supremacist bloke, posting all kinds of nonsense about the white race not mixing with others. I was just making fun of him. | |||
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"so neither of you can put up a SINGLE proposed case of workers rights being reduced or removed. Seriously? If you cannot see the writing on the wall, the EU certainly can. That is why proposals such as the temporary deal on aviation is contingent on no reduction in employment rights in the UK. They read the speeches, the papers, the tweets by the Brextremists. Perhaps you should, too. Well I have googled that condition and cant find, I think you have dreamed that up too, you obviously cant tell the difference between what the government has proposed and an individuals ideas, of course ALL eu rules are being transposed into uk law the day we leave so in any cse nothing will change until new laws are brought into change a single thing" You mixing up some things there. In the event of no deal, the EU has put forward a proposal that would maintain aviation links temporarily. It has a number of conditions, including a cap on flights at 2018 levels and the right to revoke in the event the UK seeks competitive advantage through withdrawal of employment legislation. You can find it on the EU website. | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with...
Brexit is supposed to make the UK more international but a small band of remoaning cunts in the conservative party seem hell bent on keeping the UK imprisoned in the EU customs union. "I’m lost. How has the CU influenced dysons decision ? | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK. Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone... Have you read the press release? the other interesting "titbit" is that the EV division (the one that was going to make the prototype electrics cars) which was originally slated to be made in the uk... thats also going to singapore That was known about last October. The concepts will be made and tested in the UK, and prototype production models in Singapore." Dyson invested millions building a test track in the UK last year and I posted about it on here at the time. As you can see on this thread though remainers don't listen, it just goes in one ear and out the other. | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with...
Brexit is supposed to make the UK more international but a small band of remoaning cunts in the conservative party seem hell bent on keeping the UK imprisoned in the EU customs union.
I’m lost. How has the CU influenced dysons decision ?"Maybe he sees that's the way Parliament is going, with the speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence (making new rules up for Parliament as he goes along), and remainer backbenchers plotting to keep the UK in a customs union with the EU. It's rumoured now Bercow is considering giving backbenchers the right to put forward primary legislation (currently only the government can do this). The Queen may now be asked to step in by the government to get involved to put a stop to Bercow's antics. | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with...
Brexit is supposed to make the UK more international but a small band of remoaning cunts in the conservative party seem hell bent on keeping the UK imprisoned in the EU customs union.
I’m lost. How has the CU influenced dysons decision ?
Maybe he sees that's the way Parliament is going, with the speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence (making new rules up for Parliament as he goes along), and remainer backbenchers plotting to keep the UK in a customs union with the EU. It's rumoured now Bercow is considering giving backbenchers the right to put forward primary legislation (currently only the government can do this). The Queen may now be asked to step in by the government to get involved to put a stop to Bercow's antics. "You really think that Duson would pull off a knee jerk decision like that ? And two top bods will have signed up to a move to Singapore (as nice as it is) just as quick? This feels more like a deflection than an answer. | |||
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"Apparently it isn’t for tax purposes, Singapore charges 17% and the UK 19% (does save him £20m straight away though!) It is apparently to enable Dyson to be a Global Tech Company! Ouch, that hurts even more given Brexit was ‘supposed’ to make us more International & easier to do business with...
Brexit is supposed to make the UK more international but a small band of remoaning cunts in the conservative party seem hell bent on keeping the UK imprisoned in the EU customs union.
I’m lost. How has the CU influenced dysons decision ?
Maybe he sees that's the way Parliament is going, with the speaker John Bercow breaking centuries of Parliamentary precedence (making new rules up for Parliament as he goes along), and remainer backbenchers plotting to keep the UK in a customs union with the EU. It's rumoured now Bercow is considering giving backbenchers the right to put forward primary legislation (currently only the government can do this). The Queen may now be asked to step in by the government to get involved to put a stop to Bercow's antics. "Ah, so you oppose the sovereignty of Parliament then? Funny, I thought that was the mantra of Brexit. | |||
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"The Air Transport (Basic Connectivity) regulation, published Dec 19 by the Commission, refers. It is dependent upon reciprocity by the UK. I" The uk said in sept it would allow eu flights, IE long before the eu said anything but of course remainers will be in denial about that fact too | |||
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"& now P&O are re-registering their ferries in Cyprus and Sony are moving their HQ to Amsterdam. Brexit is a complete and utter mess & it isnt as a result of remoaners, it is as a result of the singular self interest of Brexiteers who are only in it for themselves! Nobody in their right mind can look at this and say it is going well and it is going to be great. We are patently losing out every day - why the fuck should we progress down this ridiculous line "Because more people wanted the above than those that did not. | |||
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"No high profile brexiteer has jumped ship. To do so would mean that they were pro brexit for political reasons. All rich, high profile brexiteers (like Dyson, JRM and BoJo) are pro brexit for what they can make out of it. It is called disaster economics and power grabs, both require the UK economy and political structure to fail so that they can move in and make a killing. It has all been well planned, Bojo is looking to gain power, JRM, Dyson and many others will make a financial killing and if that costs the lives of some hoi-polloi well what do they care? " I'm sure Bojo, JRM and Dyson appreciated your vote to leave will. | |||
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"There's two executives moving over there, in order to oversee a greater presence in that region. No other jobs to go in the UK. Incorrect, to run an HQ you need staff, so many senior jobs (the ones who decide policy & investment) will move to Singapore. To even the numbers up, a few more ‘hoover’ technicians might be employed, but the days of decisions being made in the UK have gone... Have you read the press release? the other interesting "titbit" is that the EV division (the one that was going to make the prototype electrics cars) which was originally slated to be made in the uk... thats also going to singapore That was known about last October. The concepts will be made and tested in the UK, and prototype production models in Singapore. Dyson invested millions building a test track in the UK last year and I posted about it on here at the time. As you can see on this thread though remainers don't listen, it just goes in one ear and out the other. "Lots of money spent in the UK for design and development for several hundred libtard middle class engineers. Excellent. We are all aware of that. Much, much more money to be spent in Singapore to build the manufacturing plant for production. Bringing thousands of jobs and an associated supplier base to Singapore? Why is that? Not lower wages. Better quality product because the workforce produces better quality output. Incidentally, most workers come in from Malaysia every day. Immigrant labour. Well paid but they tax they pay stays in Singapore. It doesn't go into Malaysia's infrastructure, schools, hospitals etc. Slightly lower taxes. Proximity to their biggest market. We don't want immigrants. We want good technicians jobs. We are not ever going to be geographically close to the far east. We are, however, really close to another of the world's wealthiest markets. The EU. Before you babble about growth remember that a poor country will grow very fast, but they will remain poor for a long time and the vast majority of people will be buying low cost goods. A wealthy country may grow slowly but it has money to spend on the things we actually make. How will leaving the EU help Dyson, or anyone else, change their mind about the location of these sorts of facilities? | |||
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"While it does look a bit embarrassing for a brexit poster boy to be moving, I don’t see it’s as hypocritical as it could seem. Not unless he prescribes to Minfords economic model. What it does show is the importance of the economic strength of your neighbours and good and easy trading relations. I suspect dyson is not in the “no deal” camp. Nor wishing destruction to the euro or the EU. " Dyson was primarily annoyed about the EU power consumption test standards which were penalising their products. Ironically, the ECJ ruled in their favour last year. Dyson hasn't been mentioning Brexit much has it? | |||
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"& now P&O are re-registering their ferries in Cyprus and Sony are moving their HQ to Amsterdam. Brexit is a complete and utter mess & it isnt as a result of remoaners, it is as a result of the singular self interest of Brexiteers who are only in it for themselves! Nobody in their right mind can look at this and say it is going well and it is going to be great. We are patently losing out every day - why the fuck should we progress down this ridiculous line
Because more people wanted the above than those that did not. "Because it's painful for people to admit to themselves that they were wrong | |||
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"& now P&O are re-registering their ferries in Cyprus and Sony are moving their HQ to Amsterdam. Brexit is a complete and utter mess & it isnt as a result of remoaners, it is as a result of the singular self interest of Brexiteers who are only in it for themselves! Nobody in their right mind can look at this and say it is going well and it is going to be great. We are patently losing out every day - why the fuck should we progress down this ridiculous line
Because more people wanted the above than those that did not.
Because it's painful for people to admit to themselves that they were wrong "True. It's close to impossible if you invest deeply and publicly in something. It's heavily ego driven. It's why good money gets thrown after bad. It's why gamblers always make "one last bet" to make it good... | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted. Being an advocate of Brexit making Britain great again and then moving HQ and business to Singapore doesn’t smack of hypocrisy? Of course he can do it, but should he? Its like JRM having set up a business in Ireland and various Brexiteers taking up dual citizenship. These guys talk about making Britain great, but it is just a sham to screw the rest of us ". No not really, it's just modern day business. You think of the UK being a business I think of it being my home, he may well hold both views?. I didn't vote Brexit for business, I couldn't give a shit about it. | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted. Being an advocate of Brexit making Britain great again and then moving HQ and business to Singapore doesn’t smack of hypocrisy? Of course he can do it, but should he? Its like JRM having set up a business in Ireland and various Brexiteers taking up dual citizenship. These guys talk about making Britain great, but it is just a sham to screw the rest of us .
No not really, it's just modern day business.
You think of the UK being a business I think of it being my home, he may well hold both views?.
I didn't vote Brexit for business, I couldn't give a shit about it."No inward investment leads to no jobs and giving a shit becomes an issue. At that point you can’t just say now I give a shit and someone waves a magic wand to put it right! Open your eyes now and protect your future - the disconnect between dreams & reality on Brexit is laughable, well it would be if I was on the outside looking in, like Dyson | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed" Why won't the PM table official policy to maintain them for at least another decade? Is it maybe because the average worker and citizen might have some liberties stripped to keep the country afloat. | |||
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"Good business people make good business decisions, I don't see any conflict in how he voted. Being an advocate of Brexit making Britain great again and then moving HQ and business to Singapore doesn’t smack of hypocrisy? Of course he can do it, but should he? Its like JRM having set up a business in Ireland and various Brexiteers taking up dual citizenship. These guys talk about making Britain great, but it is just a sham to screw the rest of us .
No not really, it's just modern day business.
You think of the UK being a business I think of it being my home, he may well hold both views?.
I didn't vote Brexit for business, I couldn't give a shit about it."I get what you're saying pal, but there's little point in having a home if you can't even run the heating to keep the damp off the walls | |||
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"In defence of Dyson. He weighed up the pros of Brexit (removal of workers rights, less “red tape” of environmental protection etc), against the cons (ruined economy). He obviously thought he’d be able to grab a larger slice of a smaller pie and reducing his costs while maxing out his worker drones. But I am guessing that the government doesn’t look like it’s delivering his vision for Brexit. So he’s jumped ship. Howmany times have you repeated this lie about workers rights and environmental controls being removed we have better workers rights in several areas now than the eu does, once again lets have some details of what is being removed Why won't the PM table official policy to maintain them for at least another decade? Is it maybe because the average worker and citizen might have some liberties stripped to keep the country afloat." Can't wait for the rallying austerity cries from government urging everyone to row in for Queen and country, tighten their belt, blah blah blah All totally avoidable of course, two months left. | |||
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"So James Dyson, strong supporter of Brexit, has decided to move Dyson HQ and tax domicile to Singapore. Clearly a very good engineer, but questionable morals and ethics. If he believed in Brexit then he should be supporting this country and not lining his own pockets like other notorious Brexiteers - JRM, Farage, BJ. How can anyone take these charlatans seriously!?" Who cares!? Let’s jump on our white horse and start a moral crusade. Anyone....no? | |||
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"The Air Transport (Basic Connectivity) regulation, published Dec 19 by the Commission, refers. It is dependent upon reciprocity by the UK. I The uk said in sept it would allow eu flights, IE long before the eu said anything but of course remainers will be in denial about that fact too" The EU aviation market regulation has been drafted and is ready to be adopted into EU law. Before it can be implemented, the UK needs to approve an equivalent legal regulation for the UK aviation market. This would create a level playing field between the two separate markets from March 30 and create a legal framework for airlines operating between the two jurisdictions in the event there is no comprehensive withdrawal agreement in place. The UK has yet to do so. Perhaps you can explain why? | |||
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"So Britain has lost multiple companies so far, but look at all the companies who are begging to deal with the UK, such as,..., erm,..., shit. " There will be companies that will have to set up a local office. They will not be European or regional headquarters though. There will be companies that locate here based on financial incentives, although these will have to be bigger than they were previously. It will all be a bit crappier than now because that what we voted for. To be a little less. To be a little crappier even though it has been sold as a benefit. The choice we have is by how much. | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ?" Doing what? Employment was rising from 2014. Go and look at the data. It would have risen further by now if our economy didn't take a hit after the referendum. So would real wage growth. We chose OK over good or great and are celebrating it. | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? Doing what? Employment was rising from 2014. Go and look at the data. It would have risen further by now if our economy didn't take a hit after the referendum. So would real wage growth. We chose OK over good or great and are celebrating it." if it’s goin up it can only be a good thing can’t it and you don’t know if it would of been good or great know one does it was supposed to of dropped by more than half a million the day after the referendum right and I’m not celebrating I’m just not crying into my coffee ppl are pointing out company’s leaving the uk I just pointed out employment is going up Or isn’t that a plus ? | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ?" Losing thousands of high paying jobs in tech and design, but offsetting that with a rise in minimum wage jobs where people barely get by, worth it | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? Losing thousands of high paying jobs in tech and design, but offsetting that with a rise in minimum wage jobs where people barely get by, worth it "im sure it’s worth it to them that are barely getting by imagine there struggles with no job there lives mean just as much as the ones on these high paying jobs in tech and design you have mentioned | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? Doing what? Employment was rising from 2014. Go and look at the data. It would have risen further by now if our economy didn't take a hit after the referendum. So would real wage growth. We chose OK over good or great and are celebrating it.if it’s goin up it can only be a good thing can’t it and you don’t know if it would of been good or great know one does it was supposed to of dropped by more than half a million the day after the referendum right and I’m not celebrating I’m just not crying into my coffee ppl are pointing out company’s leaving the uk I just pointed out employment is going up Or isn’t that a plus ?" No, it wasn't. The fall would have been if nothing was done. Billions of public money was spent in ensuring that didn't happen. Money that could have been spent elsewhere. We also still kept trading under the same terms. I'm not crying, but people are not working now who could have been. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? "I think the term is a McJob.. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? "Is this to do with brexit? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?"yes don’t you know every job lose now is down to brexit befor 2016 there was no job loses lol | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?"I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger. In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income. All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit? What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone?"the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they | |||
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"Is this to do with brexit?" When they're closing branches in the UK but opening more in Europe? I mean, it's not blamed directly but it's one hell of a coincidence, on top of Dyson leaving and Sony saying they're also leaving, but hey, we've took back the country am I right? | |||
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" Can't wait for the rallying austerity cries from government urging everyone to row in for Queen and country, tighten their belt, blah blah blah All totally avoidable of course, two months left. " I'm sure if taxes have to go up because of this then many will find routes to avoid paying for others ideological dreams | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they "The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products. Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that. Paying over the odds? You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages."so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ? | |||
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"I think high streets will end up predominantly residential. The Internet is and will end up killing off the high as we know it. " I too hold that theory. Things will go full circle and we will go back to the times when housing is within the central areas of towns and people go out of town to shop. | |||
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"I think high streets will end up predominantly residential. The Internet is and will end up killing off the high as we know it. I too hold that theory. Things will go full circle and we will go back to the times when housing is within the central areas of towns and people go out of town to shop. " I'm hoping for a rise of an analogue movement. Pens paper books conversations local business dumb phones Not recording every second of your life like a vacuous narsisist. Some people have had an enough and see the damage technology is doing. I mean you have a brewing civil war in the UK with big thanks to facebook for getting it across the line. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ? "There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country. Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years. Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already?"I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. "And you're saying this is because of Brexit? Santander closed 450 branches in Soain in 2016, with over 1,000 job losses.... and then a year later axed a further 2,000 jobs in Spain. Was that because of Brexit? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses.
And you're saying this is because of Brexit?
Santander closed 450 branches in Soain in 2016, with over 1,000 job losses.... and then a year later axed a further 2,000 jobs in Spain. Was that because of Brexit?"When they're opening more branches in Europe, yeah, what's your take on Dyson and Sony leaving the UK too? | |||
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"Is this to do with brexit? When they're closing branches in the UK but opening more in Europe? I mean, it's not blamed directly but it's one hell of a coincidence, on top of Dyson leaving and Sony saying they're also leaving, but hey, we've took back the country am I right? "ya darn skippy!!! i mean i would throw away my new sony wireless headphones in disgust.... but they are so darn good!!!!
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses.
And you're saying this is because of Brexit?
Santander closed 450 branches in Soain in 2016, with over 1,000 job losses.... and then a year later axed a further 2,000 jobs in Spain. Was that because of Brexit?"I highly doubt it | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ?" That hasnt happened by accident. Do you know how many billions of £ the Bank of England has pumped into the economy since June 2016 to stop the country going down the shitter?? | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ?" LoL Employment is only at an record hight because the statistics are being manipulated. The ONS uses the LFS figures to estimate employment rates and it is these that the government are now quoting. The LFS counts anyone who works 1 hour a week or more including those who do unpaid family work and those in training or on government employment schemes as being employed. If you don't believe me google the Office of National Statistics and check what I have said. But hey I guess 1 hours work a week is working enough if you're running a government that has spent the last 9 years making nearly everyone poorer to double the wealth of the super rich and you need to keep conning the people your robbing blind. After all how many of them are actually going to check how the stats are compiled when they come from the ONS. | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? LoL Employment is only at an record hight because the statistics are being manipulated. The ONS uses the LFS figures to estimate employment rates and it is these that the government are now quoting. The LFS counts anyone who works 1 hour a week or more including those who do unpaid family work and those in training or on government employment schemes as being employed. If you don't believe me google the Office of National Statistics and check what I have said. But hey I guess 1 hours work a week is working enough if you're running a government that has spent the last 9 years making nearly everyone poorer to double the wealth of the super rich and you need to keep conning the people your robbing blind. After all how many of them are actually going to check how the stats are compiled when they come from the ONS." How very true,the tories have always fiddled the employment and unemployment figures to con people into thinking that all is well, they always do it whenever they are in power. | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? That hasnt happened by accident. Do you know how many billions of £ the Bank of England has pumped into the economy since June 2016 to stop the country going down the shitter??" Do you know how many TRILLIONS the EU has pumped into the EU economy in the same time....and how are the EU economies doing? | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? LoL Employment is only at an record hight because the statistics are being manipulated. The ONS uses the LFS figures to estimate employment rates and it is these that the government are now quoting. The LFS counts anyone who works 1 hour a week or more including those who do unpaid family work and those in training or on government employment schemes as being employed. If you don't believe me google the Office of National Statistics and check what I have said. But hey I guess 1 hours work a week is working enough if you're running a government that has spent the last 9 years making nearly everyone poorer to double the wealth of the super rich and you need to keep conning the people your robbing blind. After all how many of them are actually going to check how the stats are compiled when they come from the ONS." Are you saying the LFS figures are irrelevant and shouldn't be used....how else should we measure employment/unemployment? | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? That hasnt happened by accident. Do you know how many billions of £ the Bank of England has pumped into the economy since June 2016 to stop the country going down the shitter?? Do you know how many TRILLIONS the EU has pumped into the EU economy in the same time....and how are the EU economies doing?" The largest bail-out by any central bank in the EU member states was that by the Bank of England. Only a very small fraction of that “new money” found its way into your pocket or mine. The vast majority was gobbled up by City institutions to stop them drying up. The rest of us got austerity. | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? That hasnt happened by accident. Do you know how many billions of £ the Bank of England has pumped into the economy since June 2016 to stop the country going down the shitter?? Do you know how many TRILLIONS the EU has pumped into the EU economy in the same time....and how are the EU economies doing? The largest bail-out by any central bank in the EU member states was that by the Bank of England. Only a very small fraction of that “new money” found its way into your pocket or mine. The vast majority was gobbled up by City institutions to stop them drying up. The rest of us got austerity." The ECB has pumped over €2.4 Trillion in QE since 2015. | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? LoL Employment is only at an record hight because the statistics are being manipulated. The ONS uses the LFS figures to estimate employment rates and it is these that the government are now quoting. The LFS counts anyone who works 1 hour a week or more including those who do unpaid family work and those in training or on government employment schemes as being employed. If you don't believe me google the Office of National Statistics and check what I have said. But hey I guess 1 hours work a week is working enough if you're running a government that has spent the last 9 years making nearly everyone poorer to double the wealth of the super rich and you need to keep conning the people your robbing blind. After all how many of them are actually going to check how the stats are compiled when they come from the ONS." We have to use LFS. The LFS figures are required to be used across the EU.... EU directive 577/98 plus amendments. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most "Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street? From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence. Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs. What will be? | |||
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"All these company’s leaving the uk but still employment at a record high ? That hasnt happened by accident. Do you know how many billions of £ the Bank of England has pumped into the economy since June 2016 to stop the country going down the shitter?? Do you know how many TRILLIONS the EU has pumped into the EU economy in the same time....and how are the EU economies doing? The largest bail-out by any central bank in the EU member states was that by the Bank of England. Only a very small fraction of that “new money” found its way into your pocket or mine. The vast majority was gobbled up by City institutions to stop them drying up. The rest of us got austerity. The ECB has pumped over €2.4 Trillion in QE since 2015." Do you read around a subject when you post or just find the information for your argument. The ECB spent €2.4 Trillion for 19 countries including 2 from the G7. The BoE spent £475bn (€548bn) on its own. The Fed spent $4.5trn Japan $690bn It was a coordinated process. I'm not sure what your point is though. Does it imply that one country won or lost if it spent more or less? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? "no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong "The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway. Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low coat that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet. None of that helps the UK Brexit or not. Neither does "nightlife". I still don't understand what drives the demand for this. One or two areas sucking even more life out of smaller towns? You always seem to be rather fatalist. No urge to try and fix it? Tax internet companies properly so that they contribute to the infrastructure that they rely on to make their money? That requires international cooperation to do it properly not stamping off by yourself. Even now the tax system could be modified to add an online sales tax. Some of that going into reducing business rates for independent shops in particular. Somehow I don't see many people being thrilled by that because even the 52% like cheap foreign goods. It would help us though. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
"But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up. "Remainers. And Dyson.
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low coat that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
None of that helps the UK Brexit or not.
Neither does "nightlife". I still don't understand what drives the demand for this. One or two areas sucking even more life out of smaller towns?
You always seem to be rather fatalist. No urge to try and fix it? Tax internet companies properly so that they contribute to the infrastructure that they rely on to make their money? That requires international cooperation to do it properly not stamping off by yourself. Even now the tax system could be modified to add an online sales tax. Some of that going into reducing business rates for independent shops in particular.
Somehow I don't see many people being thrilled by that because even the 52% like cheap foreign goods.
It would help us though."Chancellor Philip Hammond has already proposed putting an online transaction fee tax on online retailers such as Amazon. It will soon become part of Conservative party policy. We don't need to be in the EU to do that and are perfectly capable of doing it as a free independent country. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up.
Remainers. And Dyson.
"This whole Dyson thing is a bit of a red Herring. Dyson employs 4,800 people in Britain. He's moved 2 members of staff out of the UK with this latest move. He will now be employing 4,798 people in Britain so a bit of context may help. Dyson has 4% of his business trade in the UK. Dyson will still be doing 4% of his trade within the UK after this move. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up. "Can't help yourself can you? Get involved and get it wrong. Low cost and low wage to the extent that it becomes economical to ship across the world. Is that what you want for the UK? Low cost and low wage? Your Brexit dream? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low coat that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
None of that helps the UK Brexit or not.
Neither does "nightlife". I still don't understand what drives the demand for this. One or two areas sucking even more life out of smaller towns?
You always seem to be rather fatalist. No urge to try and fix it? Tax internet companies properly so that they contribute to the infrastructure that they rely on to make their money? That requires international cooperation to do it properly not stamping off by yourself. Even now the tax system could be modified to add an online sales tax. Some of that going into reducing business rates for independent shops in particular.
Somehow I don't see many people being thrilled by that because even the 52% like cheap foreign goods.
It would help us though.
Chancellor Philip Hammond has already proposed putting an online transaction fee tax on online retailers such as Amazon. It will soon become part of Conservative party policy. We don't need to be in the EU to do that and are perfectly capable of doing it as a free independent country. "...and we could have done it 10 years ago and chose not to. You are quite right. The EU is not stopping us from doing most things so what do you want to take back control over? | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up.
Can't help yourself can you? Get involved and get it wrong.
Low cost and low wage to the extent that it becomes economical to ship across the world.
Is that what you want for the UK? Low cost and low wage? Your Brexit dream?"I wasn't referring to UK exports to the rest of the world. I was referring to imports into the UK from the rest of the world. Why do we need to import so much from the EU if it's cheaper (as you said) to import from the other side of the world. The UK imports more than it exports (another remainer argument). You got involved and you got it wrong. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up.
Can't help yourself can you? Get involved and get it wrong.
Low cost and low wage to the extent that it becomes economical to ship across the world.
Is that what you want for the UK? Low cost and low wage? Your Brexit dream?
I wasn't referring to UK exports to the rest of the world. I was referring to imports into the UK from the rest of the world. Why do we need to import so much from the EU if it's cheaper (as you said) to import from the other side of the world. The UK imports more than it exports (another remainer argument). You got involved and you got it wrong. "Because we do not import the higher value, complex goods and components that we import from the EU from developing economies because they are not produced there to the standards we require and the cost and speed of delivery becomes too big. You do not even understand what you are arguing over Centaur, but you're arguing anyway. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low cost that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
But remainers often argue it's essential to trade more with near geographical neighbours to reduce shipping costs, etc. Now you're saying distance isn't a factor and stuff can be made cheaper including shipping from the other side of the world. Make your mind up.
Remainers. And Dyson.
This whole Dyson thing is a bit of a red Herring. Dyson employs 4,800 people in Britain. He's moved 2 members of staff out of the UK with this latest move. He will now be employing 4,798 people in Britain so a bit of context may help. Dyson has 4% of his business trade in the UK. Dyson will still be doing 4% of his trade within the UK after this move. "Dyson are re-headquartering and building it's plant with all of it's manufacturing jobs and supplier base to Singapore near its biggest potential market. Export benefits and well paid technician level jobs are not coming to the UK. They are already expanding their R&D presence in Singapore and Malaysia because, guess what, we don't want to do that sort of thing ourselves. They are already full of European and other international engineers. | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low coat that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
None of that helps the UK Brexit or not.
Neither does "nightlife". I still don't understand what drives the demand for this. One or two areas sucking even more life out of smaller towns?
You always seem to be rather fatalist. No urge to try and fix it? Tax internet companies properly so that they contribute to the infrastructure that they rely on to make their money? That requires international cooperation to do it properly not stamping off by yourself. Even now the tax system could be modified to add an online sales tax. Some of that going into reducing business rates for independent shops in particular. Why am I always fatalist ? I gave an opinion on what I think will become of the high street you gave yrs you said residential was an option so why is my opinion fatalist and yrs forward thinking atleast my opinion would still have jobs on the high street but yrs would have zero ?
Somehow I don't see many people being thrilled by that because even the 52% like cheap foreign goods.
It would help us though." | |||
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"Oh look, Santander have just announced they're closing branches in the UK which will cause 1,270 job losses. I'm sure these people can just find some minimum wage job though right? Is this to do with brexit?
I doubt it. There are a lot of high street jobs in danger.
In large part because we choose to buy cheap goods online from abroad from companies like Amazon that are not paying appropriate tax and because shops are penalised additionally with business rates that are the biggest discretionary source of Council income.
All of this could be changed now but hasn't been. Why should it change after Brexit?
What sort of jobs are available once these have gone? the high street have ad plenty time to change the internet Amazon eBay arnt exactly brand new everyone buys online now me you the ppl who work on the high street I think the future of the high street is in nightlife we will see the big 5 supermarkets change towards the aldi and lidle type supermarkets soon aswell because ppl just don’t want to pay over the odds and why should they
The high street cannot "adapt" if they are paying business rates and tax on top of what online only retailers pay. They can't "adapt" if they can't track activity levels like in an Amazon warehouse. They can't "adapt" if they train their staff to advise customers on products.
Nightlife? People are going to go out more than now? How? Why? These thousands of people who were selling things and stacking shelves are going to work in bars and restaurants because they use the same skill sets and similar working hours? There's zero evidence of that.
Paying over the odds?
You get what you pay for in terms of quality to some extent. Faster growing or breeding species. More intensive. More drugs and fertiliser. Lower nutritional content or flavour. The environment that you shop in. Lower wages. so if it’s not night life then what do you think the high street will be used for then ?
There's no reason that the high street should be replaced by anything. There are enough boarded up shops to demonstrate that all over the country.
Residential may be an option but that requires investment. What margin makes it worthwhile? We've failed to make adequate provision for years.
Again; where do you think thus demand for "night life" will come from that wasn't there already? Have you not seen the turnover if restaurants and bars already? I don’t know what it’s like we’re you live but the nightlife here is growing bars are popping up everywhere in the center of town in Stockton on tees the widest high street in England it’s the same night life returning they have been dead for more than twenty yrs but the bars are opening up It’s the local pubs struggling the most
Is that going to replace all the shops in the high street?
From what you say it sounds like there will also be an additional loss of pubs as a consequence.
Regardless, these are low wage, anti-social hours jobs. They are not a replacement for those losing retail jobs.
What will be? no I don’t think them jobs will replaced by night life the internet is allready doing that that’s why the high street is dying but useing the high street for something else will help and it won’t make a difference to the local they have been dying for a long time ppl drink more at home cheap booze from supermarkets and garden furniture have helped that decline ppl drink at home and in garden more now 25 yrs ago I’d never seen garden furniture lol or again am I wrong
The internet is not replacing those jobs. Warehouses will be fully automated soon anyway.
Thus entire process leads to low price, low quality, high disposability. This sort of tat is made abroad at such low coat that it's economical to ship it here from the other side of the planet.
None of that helps the UK Brexit or not.
Neither does "nightlife". I still don't understand what drives the demand for this. One or two areas sucking even more life out of smaller towns?
You always seem to be rather fatalist. No urge to try and fix it? Tax internet companies properly so that they contribute to the infrastructure that they rely on to make their money? That requires international cooperation to do it properly not stamping off by yourself. Even now the tax system could be modified to add an online sales tax. Some of that going into reducing business rates for independent shops in particular. Why am I always fatalist ? I gave an opinion on what I think will become of the high street you gave yrs you said residential was an option so why is my opinion fatalist and yrs forward thinking atleast my opinion would still have jobs on the high street but yrs would have zero ?
Somehow I don't see many people being thrilled by that because even the 52% like cheap foreign goods.
It would help us though." | |||
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