FabSwingers.com forum: Derry in Ireland

By *ab_Sparkles OP Woman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

Today there was a very pre planned warning. This site won't let me type the words. Its in the Dailly mirror and happened around 8.30pm this evening. Think of Manchester the troube.

We need to put aside for a moment that no one was hurt but the public and feeling are sending unstellment.

It's no debt issue over but just to pray for hope it was a one off..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, I saw that. A car b*mb outside a courthouse.

The peace is fragile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

State sponsored false flag.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

you do realise these rouge republican groups have been trying to plant bxxxs since the gfa came into being? its nothing new.just a handfull of twats from both sides thinking there still in the 70 s. they just gangsters now.personal opinion is treat them the same as any other terror group.catch em and 30 odd years in nick

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Police forces on the UK mainland, as part of their Brexit contingency planning, are ready to deploy officers to Northern Ireland to assist the Police Force of Northern Ireland.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Police forces on the UK mainland, as part of their Brexit contingency planning, are ready to deploy officers to Northern Ireland to assist the Police Force of Northern Ireland.

i hope they do deploy them and if tjey catch any fundamentilists from either side they get treated just the same as any other terrorist.personaly they shold get one in the back of the head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Police forces on the UK mainland, as part of their Brexit contingency planning, are ready to deploy officers to Northern Ireland to assist the Police Force of Northern Ireland.

i hope they do deploy them and if tjey catch any fundamentilists from either side they get treated just the same as any other terrorist.personaly they shold get one in the back of the head

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well said.

Unfortunately we live with some very unsavoury people in this country.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"State sponsored false flag.

Get a grip.

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By *ab_Sparkles OP Woman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

4 ppl were arrested heard on the radio. A new form of... Of the old.. And stated that all men but didn't say if those men were the ones caught on cctv just before. All was said. It's trouble I'm not going to speculate on why cause I don't know why.. Theory are not what the innocent people of Derry want to hear right now or those people in Ireland and around the world.. I was a bit surprised that it's hardly been mentioned on news outlets..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"4 ppl were arrested heard on the radio. A new form of... Of the old.. And stated that all men but didn't say if those men were the ones caught on cctv just before. All was said. It's trouble I'm not going to speculate on why cause I don't know why.. Theory are not what the innocent people of Derry want to hear right now or those people in Ireland and around the world.. I was a bit surprised that it's hardly been mentioned on news outlets.. "

No surprise at all! UK newspapers didn't report all the incidents at the height of the troubles, and the mainland didn't take too much notice until the IRA started bombing the mainland- then we started taking notice!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

This bomb is part of the situation in Northern Ireland and was going on long before brexit and will go on long after,it is life in Northern Ireland sadly

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

there has been bombs being planted ever since the good friday agrement.usualy under policemens cars in there own driveways.its nothing new just a few bellends.and that goes for bellends on both sides

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

OMG! What idiocy!

Firstly, the idea that they are only gangsters and terrorists and should be treated as such is exactly the same attitude displayed in the 60's that gave the people of NI 28 years of the troubles and killed over 3500 including over 1000 British Service and ex-service personnel in Northern Ireland, and led to bombing on the mainland and eventually the deaths of 2 children in Warrington.

Lets be clear about this northern Ireland is a part of Ireland, the northern irish that are so implacably set against removal of the English Tory border in Ireland are the product of the English Settlement of NI by those dispossessed by the English Tory Highland clearances! The republicans are not terrorists, they are either freedom fighters or insurgents. Fact is the Good Friday Agreement was only possible because both Britain and the Republic of Ireland were members of the EU, and like it or not unless a way is found to keep the status quo on the island of Ireland then the troubles will return and they will not be restricted to Ireland but will soon be coming to a town or city close to all of us! And why? For the same reason we had the referendum in the first place. To keep a bunch of self-serving Tories in power for a while longer!

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

know anyone killed by terrorists do you? my mates nephew was blown to bits ob 7/7 has destroyed there whole family so exuse me for thinking they should be exterminated.your deluded if you think this is to do with brexit.them cunts have been at it since the early 2000 s prisin officers and police killed i. shootings and bombings or what about all the punishment beatings. when you know sumone who s life has been changed by terrorists come back and tell me i know fuck all.like i said they need hunting down and take the cunts out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here here well said, deploying brits on our streets once again will only make matters worse.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

not terrorists but freedom fighters oh plz fuck off.what makes them any different to isis? there creating terror so terrorists or mabey you think brexit shiuld be stopped by any means nessersary.no doubt you think my freinds nephew deserved what he got for being a brit.you really are an odious little man

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"know anyone killed by terrorists do you? my mates nephew was blown to bits ob 7/7 has destroyed there whole family so exuse me for thinking they should be exterminated.your deluded if you think this is to do with brexit.them cunts have been at it since the early 2000 s prisin officers and police killed i. shootings and bombings or what about all the punishment beatings. when you know sumone who s life has been changed by terrorists come back and tell me i know fuck all.like i said they need hunting down and take the cunts out"

I am a former RMC, I did 3 4 month tours of NI and went to the Falklands in 82. You can make of that what you like.

But I will tell you this, the 'troubles' in Ireland will continue until the English Tories leave Ireland, and to be clear the 'troubles' began when Henry VIII and then Oliver Cromwell invaded Ireland in 1649. There is near 500 years of resistance to English rule in Ireland and like it or not if we were subject to the machination of an occupying foreign some of us would be b*mbing the bastards every opportunity we would get. So please stop being a reactionary on this subject and start looking at it objectively and don't conflate Wahhabi inspired Salafist international terrorism with Irish insurgents or freedom fighters depending on your position regarding the legitimacy of NI being a part of the UK (which by the way was an invention of Tories in 1921 in order to remain in power).

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

there u go again freedom fighter bollox there terrorists just the same as the terrorists on the unionist side they also need taking out. anyway i not talkin to a apoligist for the ira so im outa here think i will give the forums a miss for a while if the are inhabited by the likes of you xx

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

p.s try telling all the people the i r a or the u d a have killed over the years there freedom fighters think the majority will disagree with you.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"p.s try telling all the people the i r a or the u d a have killed over the years there freedom fighters think the majority will disagree with you."

The one thing that all successful operations by any military anywhere against terrorism has in common is to looks at the why..

Why do they do what they do, look at the causes, the history of what led to the point which caused the change from political radicalism to armed insurgency by whomever..

Its as equally important if not more so than the military reaction..

All conflicts till the rise of the Is have and will continue to be resolved in a joint military and political endeavour..

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

Peace in Northern Ireland is still a delicate and ongoing process. Incidents like this are a stark reminder how fragile the situation still is. So with the looming Brexit the thought of a hard border is a scary one.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"p.s try telling all the people the i r a or the u d a have killed over the years there freedom fighters think the majority will disagree with you.

The one thing that all successful operations by any military anywhere against terrorism has in common is to looks at the why..

Why do they do what they do, look at the causes, the history of what led to the point which caused the change from political radicalism to armed insurgency by whomever..

Its as equally important if not more so than the military reaction..

All conflicts till the rise of the Is have and will continue to be resolved in a joint military and political endeavour.. "

so after the gfa why have these clowns still been active since the early 2000 s? thought the gfa had put a stop to it all.or does blowing up prison officers and shooting old bill not count.how bout the punishment beatings? just because its not really reported dont meen that they havent been at it since then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often think it would be a whole lot better if we didn't have the Island of Ireland split in 2.

So much death, misery & violence has been inflicted on all sides for so long coupled with the power sharing being dead on its knees for over 2 years now I think it's time NI went at it alone as an independent sovereign state of its own or reunification with the rest of the Island.

The Union is dead, the devolved power share is dead, it's been dead for a long time now but no one's willing to publicly admit it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"p.s try telling all the people the i r a or the u d a have killed over the years there freedom fighters think the majority will disagree with you.

The one thing that all successful operations by any military anywhere against terrorism has in common is to looks at the why..

Why do they do what they do, look at the causes, the history of what led to the point which caused the change from political radicalism to armed insurgency by whomever..

Its as equally important if not more so than the military reaction..

All conflicts till the rise of the Is have and will continue to be resolved in a joint military and political endeavour..

Because there will always be an element in the republican base that will never accept the status qou, they only want a united Ireland..

It's reported there..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I often think it would be a whole lot better if we didn't have the Island of Ireland split in 2.

The Union is dead, the devolved power share is dead, it's been dead for a long time now but no one's willing to publicly admit it.

The demographic will change and that will effect the future, on the back of referendums in Scotland and the current one yet resolved when there is a call for one and it crosses the political division in the North then it will be hard for Westminster to keep ignoring..

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

you could well be right.and the people of the republic are probably not going to mind digging deep once they have to take over schools housing health service policing you know all the boring shit that costs a shed load of money.hey one way of sorting it out now give ema vote now about joining with the republic

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"you could well be right.and the people of the republic are probably not going to mind digging deep once they have to take over schools housing health service policing you know all the boring shit that costs a shed load of money.hey one way of sorting it out now give ema vote now about joining with the republic"

Not feasible now certainly with May being in the DUPs pocket, and to enforce one would only kick off the extremists in the nationalist community..

Imposition never really works and the democratic process is harder for so called Democrats to argue against if that is how it pans out..

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?"

Well beyond my pay grade..

Think it would work similarly to the recent Scottish one in that it would just be in that area, anything else is open to it being subverted..

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over a year ago

"I often think it would be a whole lot better if we didn't have the Island of Ireland split in 2.

The Union is dead, the devolved power share is dead, it's been dead for a long time now but no one's willing to publicly admit it.

The demographics may change but you only need a 1000 terrorists for the whole thing to implode, if your given democratic choice and lose you have no mandate to then bomb your way to your chosen vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?

Well beyond my pay grade..

Think it would work similarly to the recent Scottish one in that it would just be in that area, anything else is open to it being subverted.. "

Fine example of brits sticking their noses in when they clearly have no idea what they’re talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?

Well beyond my pay grade..

Think it would work similarly to the recent Scottish one in that it would just be in that area, anything else is open to it being subverted..

Fine example of brits sticking their noses in when they clearly have no idea what they’re talking about. "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?

Well beyond my pay grade..

Think it would work similarly to the recent Scottish one in that it would just be in that area, anything else is open to it being subverted..

Fine example of brits sticking their noses in when they clearly have no idea what they’re talking about. "

Then pray enlighten us..

Even being half Irish it's always good to listen and learn..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?

Well beyond my pay grade..

Think it would work similarly to the recent Scottish one in that it would just be in that area, anything else is open to it being subverted..

Fine example of brits sticking their noses in when they clearly have no idea what they’re talking about. "

And by the way asking a question about something is not sticking ones nose in..

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

It Wasnt Colin Parry obviously.

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?"

If a border poll is held and passed in the six counties initiating the reunification of the country, then a subsequent one must be held in the 26 confirming acceptance of the proposal. The sequencing is laid out in the Belfast Agreement.

On another point that someone else made above about it only taking a few militants to bring the whole thing crashing down, I'm sure it'll be suggested that loyalist paramilitaries will fight against the inevitable reunification line they "fought" in the seventies and eighties. The difference is that back then they were financed, trained,organised and used by the British military. That won't be the case in the future.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"would the people in the republic get a vote aswell asking if they want a united ireland or will it been only for the north?

cheers genuinely wanted to know how a vote would work. as for republicans or unionists rearing there heads again i honestly hope the generation that has grown up without the troubles would give em a big fuck off to the dinosaurs on both sides

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Well when the original Dinosaur of the British Empire started inflicting its dire ways on the island of Ireland , it was bound to lead to other types of Dinosaurs.

You may not like it, but what happened in the North is as a direct result of British interference in things it had no RIGHT to be involved in.

If Britain leaves the Eu then the island of Ireland will be reunified within a decade.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

who rattled your cage pal.

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

You.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

also i neither like or dislike it way before my time

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Well why have you been banging on about it for ?

You talk about a friend losing a memeber of a family on 7/7 as though you deserve some sympathy or a pat on the head.

7/7 has nothing to do with the North of Ireland & other than people being killed in both circumstances .

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

sympathy or pat on the head yea right mate just dont like terrorists of any coulor or relegion or any other fucked idea they may have.

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Yet you talk like the only terrorist are small groups .

The British Empire came to be because the biggesst Terrorist organisation that ever existed

was led by the Government of Westminster.

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

"Police forces on the UK mainland, as part of their Brexit contingency planning, are ready to deploy officers to Northern Ireland to assist the Police Force of Northern Ireland.

i hope they do deploy them and if tjey catch any fundamentilists from either side they get treated just the same as any other terrorist.personaly they shold get one in the back of the head

One side of fundamentalist is propping up the tory government

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Police forces on the UK mainland, as part of their Brexit contingency planning, are ready to deploy officers to Northern Ireland to assist the Police Force of Northern Ireland.

i hope they do deploy them and if tjey catch any fundamentilists from either side they get treated just the same as any other terrorist.personaly they shold get one in the back of the head

One side of fundamentalist is propping up the tory government

Yup..

Funded by the magic money tree..

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"sympathy or pat on the head yea right mate just dont like terrorists of any coulor or relegion or any other fucked idea they may have."

Your definition of "terrorist" comes into question here. I suspect you consider that anyone who opposes the British military is/was a terrorist.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"sympathy or pat on the head yea right mate just dont like terrorists of any coulor or relegion or any other fucked idea they may have.

Your definition of "terrorist" comes into question here. I suspect you consider that anyone who opposes the British military is/was a terrorist. "

not at all mate you can lump the right wing twats in with them aswell. if they wana blow up politicians i have no prob with that its politicians who cause all the shit.what i have a problem with is twats blowing members of the public up why they going about there daily lifes.have a problem with the peeps who cause these problems go after them people not joe public

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

"sympathy or pat on the head yea right mate just dont like terrorists of any coulor or relegion or any other fucked idea they may have.

Your definition of "terrorist" comes into question here. I suspect you consider that anyone who opposes the British military is/was a terrorist.

Nice try at deflection .

Thr British Government is what was being called out.

But you seem to be ok with Governments being Terrorists as long as it leads

To the "Great" in Britain

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By *ichael McCarthyMan
over a year ago

Lucan

"sympathy or pat on the head yea right mate just dont like terrorists of any coulor or relegion or any other fucked idea they may have.

Your definition of "terrorist" comes into question here. I suspect you consider that anyone who opposes the British military is/was a terrorist.

Nice try at deflection .

Thr British Government is what was being called out.

But you seem to be ok with Governments being Terrorists as long as it leads

To the "Great" in Britain"

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By *ore of thatMan
over a year ago

skerries

I don't think the Irish economy could afford a united ireland ...think of all the money and resources the UK puts into it .personally I think it would destroy our economy .....and we wouldn't want to depend on the European big boys .they have thrown us under the bus once .with the banking crisis ...a leopard doesn't change it's spots ...

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By *laytimenowMan
over a year ago

Essex

Tosh.

The EU will pump more money in.

5 Banks have already created Replica H.O's in Ireland ready to go as soon as they choose

Apple have already built a massive

site in Galway & have stated they will invest far more heavily in the future.( there was a reason the dail gave them such huge tax relief )

Other American companies will follow as will EU & far east buisness.

Ireland is the centre of European pharmecutical production .

Dont believe me , go look in your medicine box or your bathroom cabinet & see.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"sympathy or pat on the head yea right mate just dont like terrorists of any coulor or relegion or any other fucked idea they may have.

Your definition of "terrorist" comes into question here. I suspect you consider that anyone who opposes the British military is/was a terrorist. i

Nice try at deflection .

Thr British Government is what was being called out.

But you seem to be ok with Governments being Terrorists as long as it leads

To the "Great" in Britain"

great britain lol i probably got more in common with the people who want ireland to be one country tbh was dissapointed when scotland bottled out of indipendence.lets face it the only time its in anyones favour to be british is times of war and the olympics. id love it if england scotland wales or northern ireland were seperate countrys except i wouldnt blow people up to get it.am pretty sure if the uk had been able to vote in scottish ref they would be long gone

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"I don't think the Irish economy could afford a united ireland ...think of all the money and resources the UK puts into it .personally I think it would destroy our economy .....and we wouldn't want to depend on the European big boys .they have thrown us under the bus once .with the banking crisis ...a leopard doesn't change it's spots ..."

And do you really want the DUP sitting in the Irish Parliament?

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By *inkywife1981Couple
over a year ago

A town near you

"Tosh.

The EU will pump more money in.

5 Banks have already created Replica H.O's in Ireland ready to go as soon as they choose

Apple have already built a massive

site in Galway & have stated they will invest far more heavily in the future.( there was a reason the dail gave them such huge tax relief )

Other American companies will follow as will EU & far east buisness.

Ireland is the centre of European pharmecutical production .

Dont believe me , go look in your medicine box or your bathroom cabinet & see.

Unfortunately Apple have scrapped the 850million euro data centre in Galway as the planning process didn't go as planned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a swinging site slash sex site. Get a life u all and stop commenting on a car bomb !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a swinging site slash sex site. Get a life u all and stop commenting on a car bomb !!! "

If you don't want to participate in a conversation then tottle off to something more agreeable to you.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex

"This is a swinging site slash sex site. Get a life u all and stop commenting on a car bomb !!! "

And this is a thread in the politics section of the forum.....so what's your point?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tosh.

The EU will pump more money in.

5 Banks have already created Replica H.O's in Ireland ready to go as soon as they choose

Apple have already built a massive

site in Galway & have stated they will invest far more heavily in the future.( there was a reason the dail gave them such huge tax relief )

Other American companies will follow as will EU & far east buisness.

Ireland is the centre of European pharmecutical production .

Dont believe me , go look in your medicine box or your bathroom cabinet & see."

Galway is also the second largest medical device manufacturing hub in the world.

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