Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
 | Back to forum list |
| Back to Politics |
| Jump to newest |  |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage." Two years in and now she plays the cross party card....she should have reached out to the official opposition long ago. Her arrogance and that of the Tories in general is astounding.... | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"That nothing is getting done, they are like children in a playground Just before the vote Michael gove ripped into corbyn, cable and the snp commons leader. The tories aren’t going to listen to anyone else Get ready for no deal brexit " That's because these people live and breathe an adversarial system, where winner takes all and the combatants are separated by sword-lengths. Consensus is not in their nature because the system is designed to be adversarial. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage. Two years in and now she plays the cross party card....she should have reached out to the official opposition long ago. Her arrogance and that of the Tories in general is astounding...." Unfortunatly they are all we have got, if you want to see a vision of corbyn,s britian watch bbc2 at 9pm tonight on his hero hugo chavez. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"That nothing is getting done, they are like children in a playground Just before the vote Michael gove ripped into corbyn, cable and the snp commons leader. The tories aren’t going to listen to anyone else Get ready for no deal brexit " Gove's little speech was so stage managed and rehearsed, so typical of their arrogance to turn on the opposition when they can't sort out their own party. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"As expected So no change Starting to get frustrated by nothing getting done, while the clock keeps on ticking " actually in political terms a few things did happen... then interesting things happened after the vote.... a) may tried to embarrass the opposition leaders by announcing the offer of meetings tonight b) corbyn (in probably his only smart move all day) said he would if only the pm took "no deal" off the table.... that way if she doesn't then she can't peel off moderate labour mp's... c) nigel dodds of the DUP basically held TM as a hostage victim by saying "if we hadn't of voted with you, you would have lost... and remember that!" i do think we are not in 2nd referendum territory yet.... but i think we are a lot lot closer to an article 50 extension (if the EU allow it) | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"As expected So no change Starting to get frustrated by nothing getting done, while the clock keeps on ticking actually in political terms a few things did happen... then interesting things happened after the vote.... a) may tried to embarrass the opposition leaders by announcing the offer of meetings tonight b) corbyn (in probably his only smart move all day) said he would if only the pm took "no deal" off the table.... that way if she doesn't then she can't peel off moderate labour mp's... c) nigel dodds of the DUP basically held TM as a hostage victim by saying "if we hadn't of voted with you, you would have lost... and remember that!" i do think we are not in 2nd referendum territory yet.... but i think we are a lot lot closer to an article 50 extension (if the EU allow it)" If article 50 is extended there will be civil unrest on the streets | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"As expected So no change Starting to get frustrated by nothing getting done, while the clock keeps on ticking actually in political terms a few things did happen... then interesting things happened after the vote.... a) may tried to embarrass the opposition leaders by announcing the offer of meetings tonight b) corbyn (in probably his only smart move all day) said he would if only the pm took "no deal" off the table.... that way if she doesn't then she can't peel off moderate labour mp's... c) nigel dodds of the DUP basically held TM as a hostage victim by saying "if we hadn't of voted with you, you would have lost... and remember that!" i do think we are not in 2nd referendum territory yet.... but i think we are a lot lot closer to an article 50 extension (if the EU allow it)" Smart move of the day? he didnt want to talk to her tonight because he doesnt know what he wants apart from her job.Hes stalling for time and my guess he will call another vote of no confidence next week so he can still sit on the fence. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Smart move of the day? he didnt want to talk to her tonight because he doesnt know what he wants apart from her job.Hes stalling for time and my guess he will call another vote of no confidence next week so he can still sit on the fence." yes... his only smart move as he didn't really have much choice than to table the no confidence motion last night (may was smart to say that she would accept it from other party's...as if he hasn't the snp would have, and he would have looked a lot worse) by making her state that "no deal" is still on the table there is not a cat in hells chance the PM can go around him and peel off moderate labour mps to talk to for her to then pretend it is "cross party"...... | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Frustrated in what sense? " The speech by Gove still didn't put ministers off supporting him. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Frustrated in what sense? The speech by Gove still didn't put ministers off supporting him. " that was like a leadership contest stump speech..... the one by tom watson though.... that was stone cold! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Smart move of the day? he didnt want to talk to her tonight because he doesnt know what he wants apart from her job.Hes stalling for time and my guess he will call another vote of no confidence next week so he can still sit on the fence. yes... his only smart move as he didn't really have much choice than to table the no confidence motion last night (may was smart to say that she would accept it from other party's...as if he hasn't the snp would have, and he would have looked a lot worse) by making her state that "no deal" is still on the table there is not a cat in hells chance the PM can go around him and peel off moderate labour mps to talk to for her to then pretend it is "cross party"......" Yes really smart to rule out the one leaver you have in negotiations with the eu.Why would they have any incentive to change anything if they knew we would not leave with a no deal under any circumstances.No point in talking at all just say we will take any shit you want us to or we will stay exactly what they want.Really smart that. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"It's all just pointless. MP's won't back the Brexit deal. MP's in enough numbers don't seem willing to back a no deal. Enough MP's may support another referendum yet their unwilling to support the 1st one. No point having another General Election as both main parties supported carrying out the referendum result last year. Doesn't leave much else at the moment apart from scrapping Brexit. That's the only route that would probably command a majority. As I say, it's all pointless. " Accurate post, and you could well have posted this at the moment we all woke up to the referendum result back in 2016. Only difference is all the time and money that we’ve lost in that time that could have been put to better use. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"some sort of downing street address to the nation at 10pm..... so.... speculate?" Mayday, mayday, mayday! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big" Maybe she is going to try and sieze some initiative and try and look like the one taking decisive action. JC refuses to meet her unless No Deal is off the table, and she knows that would split the Conservative party in two. Maybe she is going to try and exploit this. She has met other party leaders, all of them have told her to go to a "people's vote" and business is getting mightily pissed off now. Something has got to happen! Foreign press using headlines such as "farce" and "shipwreck" to describe the UK position. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big" Perhaps she is finally going to start playing those cards Michael Gove said we would be holding. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big Maybe she is going to try and sieze some initiative and try and look like the one taking decisive action. JC refuses to meet her unless No Deal is off the table, and she knows that would split the Conservative party in two. Maybe she is going to try and exploit this. She has met other party leaders, all of them have told her to go to a "people's vote" and business is getting mightily pissed off now. Something has got to happen! Foreign press using headlines such as "farce" and "shipwreck" to describe the UK position." The leaders of all the other party's haven't said they want a 2nd referendum. The DUP have made it crystal clear they don't want another referendum and they want to see Brexit delivered. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"As expected So no change Starting to get frustrated by nothing getting done, while the clock keeps on ticking " I'm happy for the clock to keep on ticking, because no deal is the default position. Parliament doesn't have to vote for no deal, if the clock runs out that is what will happen on March 29th. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"As expected So no change Starting to get frustrated by nothing getting done, while the clock keeps on ticking actually in political terms a few things did happen... then interesting things happened after the vote.... a) may tried to embarrass the opposition leaders by announcing the offer of meetings tonight b) corbyn (in probably his only smart move all day) said he would if only the pm took "no deal" off the table.... that way if she doesn't then she can't peel off moderate labour mp's... c) nigel dodds of the DUP basically held TM as a hostage victim by saying "if we hadn't of voted with you, you would have lost... and remember that!" i do think we are not in 2nd referendum territory yet.... but i think we are a lot lot closer to an article 50 extension (if the EU allow it) If article 50 is extended there will be civil unrest on the streets " Doubt it. Ask yourself, whatever you want, are we ready and prepared to leave? Regardless of whether you want no deal, single market access, undo the vote, whatever - are we in a position where our civic and public institutions are logistically ready to leave, with the physical infrastructure to support it. All I'll say is in the NHS we are still waiting for public health England to explain how in the event of no deal, how can the NHS afford to buy in the chemicals and hardware for chemotherapy and other cancer treatments on our current budget allocation? I think most people will sigh like students do, when lecturers give an extension cause the left actually doing the work till last minute. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big Maybe she is going to try and sieze some initiative and try and look like the one taking decisive action. JC refuses to meet her unless No Deal is off the table, and she knows that would split the Conservative party in two. Maybe she is going to try and exploit this. She has met other party leaders, all of them have told her to go to a "people's vote" and business is getting mightily pissed off now. Something has got to happen! Foreign press using headlines such as "farce" and "shipwreck" to describe the UK position. The leaders of all the other party's haven't said they want a 2nd referendum. The DUP have made it crystal clear they don't want another referendum and they want to see Brexit delivered. " and so do I. Its now time to to stop this tomfoolery. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"That beggars belief. She sets up a live broadcast to the nation in order to stick the knife into Corbyn. Everything else she had said earlier in the day. " Yeah cant blame her time he got off the fence. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"That beggars belief. She sets up a live broadcast to the nation in order to stick the knife into Corbyn. Everything else she had said earlier in the day. Yeah cant blame her time he got off the fence." it's time he fell off it | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This one belongs to May and the Conservatives. Now they've fucked up it so spectacularly, they are complaining Labour won't help them. Pathetic." So do you agree with corbyn,s stance on this? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big" I swear this woman is the least self aware person in the world! what was the point of that! I am all for perserverance.. but hers has turned to stubborness, and it isn't helping! the dup must be pissing themselves laughing by now... | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big I swear this woman is the least self aware person in the world! what was the point of that! I am all for perserverance.. but hers has turned to stubborness, and it isn't helping! the dup must be pissing themselves laughing by now..." Aww didums, when you said "this feels big", did you think she was going to call another referendum?  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"nice to see macron on tv telling everyone he knows what we will do.Pity he cant sort his own house out and do what his people want him to do." Next time Theresa May has a meeting with the little Napoleon in Paris, she should go wearing a yellow vest. Macron would shit his pants there and then. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Until she moves on some of her red lines it's all a further waste of time.. Had she not been so pig headed and divorced from the reality of losing her deal this could have started several weeks ago.. " Exactly. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand that" The EU has told us were we stand anyway and don't blame them for doing that. So it would make no difference. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand that" Hes not bothered about the country mate he wants power,you watch next week he will bring another no confidence vote.It will save his arse on calling for another referendum too because that is what he said he would do after a confidence vote. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand thatHes not bothered about the country mate he wants power,you watch next week he will bring another no confidence vote.It will save his arse on calling for another referendum too because that is what he said he would do after a confidence vote." I actually agree with you but the conservatives are exactly the same. In fact we are only in this mess because they were worried about loosing voters to UKIP. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand thatHes not bothered about the country mate he wants power,you watch next week he will bring another no confidence vote.It will save his arse on calling for another referendum too because that is what he said he would do after a confidence vote. I actually agree with you but the conservatives are exactly the same. In fact we are only in this mess because they were worried about loosing voters to UKIP. " You make it sound like only tories voted for brexit millions of labour voters did too,its done get over it move on and lets get out the best way we can. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand thatHes not bothered about the country mate he wants power,you watch next week he will bring another no confidence vote.It will save his arse on calling for another referendum too because that is what he said he would do after a confidence vote. I actually agree with you but the conservatives are exactly the same. In fact we are only in this mess because they were worried about loosing voters to UKIP. You make it sound like only tories voted for brexit millions of labour voters did too,its done get over it move on and lets get out the best way we can." No,I make it sound like the Tory party made it happen! Which they obviously did. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand thatHes not bothered about the country mate he wants power,you watch next week he will bring another no confidence vote.It will save his arse on calling for another referendum too because that is what he said he would do after a confidence vote. I actually agree with you but the conservatives are exactly the same. In fact we are only in this mess because they were worried about loosing voters to UKIP. You make it sound like only tories voted for brexit millions of labour voters did too,its done get over it move on and lets get out the best way we can. No,I make it sound like the Tory party made it happen! Which they obviously did." yes and by the result the majority of the country are happy they did. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You notice that Corbyn still thinks he commands some sort of power in the house despite losing to Theresa May again. All other party leaders have accepted her invitation to meet to discuss and work on moving forward for the interest of the country - except steptoe - who is demanding that 'no deal' be taken off the table. You just list mate. The House has confidence in the government. Not only that, but if you rule out 'no deal' you severely weaken your negotiating position. But then he's too thick to uderstand thatHes not bothered about the country mate he wants power,you watch next week he will bring another no confidence vote.It will save his arse on calling for another referendum too because that is what he said he would do after a confidence vote. I actually agree with you but the conservatives are exactly the same. In fact we are only in this mess because they were worried about loosing voters to UKIP. You make it sound like only tories voted for brexit millions of labour voters did too,its done get over it move on and lets get out the best way we can. No,I make it sound like the Tory party made it happen! Which they obviously did.yes and by the result the majority of the country are happy they did." Really? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Frustrated in what sense? The speech by Gove still didn't put ministers off supporting him. that was like a leadership contest stump speech..... the one by tom watson though.... that was stone cold!" Yeah agreed, Goves didn't hold back but Watson's came across more condescending for me. I don't even think petulance sums it up either. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage. Two years in and now she plays the cross party card....she should have reached out to the official opposition long ago. Her arrogance and that of the Tories in general is astounding...." 
If she'd actually communicated and led her own party, coupled with cross-party consultation, this whole mess could have been avoided. Quite a nasty pierce of work | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Gove "had a go" at Corbyn for having spoken to Sinn Fein , then only won the vote because of the votes of the D.U.P ,,, priceless !!!! ( well not exactly priceless , cost tax-payers quite allot of money ) " He rounded on everybody. He pointed out the DUP had managed to agree to something, that the Libs were the ones first calling for the Referendum but were now acting as Vikki Pollard now they had it - 'Yerr but Noo but Yerr but Noo', that the SNP failed to mention the fisheries policy in their 25min speech and that Watson didn't mention his leader once in his (amongst a blistering attack on the opposition premiership). Whole balls out. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"As expected So no change Starting to get frustrated by nothing getting done, while the clock keeps on ticking " Nothing changes, maybe that’s because nobody offered an alternative. What was Labour’s master plan ? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"That beggars belief. She sets up a live broadcast to the nation in order to stick the knife into Corbyn. Everything else she had said earlier in the day. " What i thought as well when she said it. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This one belongs to May and the Conservatives. Now they've fucked up it so spectacularly, they are complaining Labour won't help them. Pathetic.So do you agree with corbyn,s stance on this?" Corbyn does not have the numbers to deliver Brexit. Only May does. Ask yourself why she is unable deliver. Why has she waited 2.5 years to make this a cross-party issue? The Conservatives claimed ownership throughout. But May cannot even lead her own party, never mind the country. As failures of governance go, this one is up there with Suez. The parallels are similar. British politicians discovering the hard way their perception of the country's status in the world is completely detached from reality. This is not a negotiation of equals. It never has been. Yet May & Co have persisted with the lies of the referendum. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. Time for some honesty, however painful that may be for the flag-waving Little Englanders. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"That nothing is getting done, they are like children in a playground Just before the vote Michael gove ripped into corbyn, cable and the snp commons leader. The tories aren’t going to listen to anyone else Get ready for no deal brexit That's because these people live and breathe an adversarial system, where winner takes all and the combatants are separated by sword-lengths. Consensus is not in their nature because the system is designed to be adversarial. " Very true but the parties have united in war time,so why does it take a war to get them to unite?I wish I knew the answer,just maybe you have it very right sadly | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"10.03pm to be precise.... there is no way she is just coming out to tell us all "not to panick" at that time... she could do that anytime... .... this feels big" 10.03 or 10.00 does it bloody matter lol | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage. Two years in and now she plays the cross party card....she should have reached out to the official opposition long ago. Her arrogance and that of the Tories in general is astounding....
If she'd actually communicated and led her own party, coupled with cross-party consultation, this whole mess could have been avoided. Quite a nasty pierce of work "So where previously they wanted cross party debate - now they don't. Mess, no mess. For the good of the country, for clarity of policy. To show they can rise above being nasty pieces of work? Way to spell out a customs plan than that. Really do hate championing this brexit shit, but there are some excuses being made. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Gove "had a go" at Corbyn for having spoken to Sinn Fein , then only won the vote because of the votes of the D.U.P ,,, priceless !!!! ( well not exactly priceless , cost tax-payers quite allot of money ) " The funniest thing Ive read this week was corbyn was accused of laying a reef for the terrorist hans gruber at nakotomi plaza. Someone actually responded saying "I didn't know Die hard was a true story" | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage." This is, actually, what we did before we started our Brexit negotiations. Red lines. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage. This is, actually, what we did before we started our Brexit negotiations. Red lines." Corbyn has been banging on about Mays red lines for ages then goes and whacks his red line down lol | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage. This is, actually, what we did before we started our Brexit negotiations. Red lines. Corbyn has been banging on about Mays red lines for ages then goes and whacks his red line down lol " If May isnt going to change her redlines, what's the point in talking to her? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"i am reading these posts but i am still waiting for your personal views on the situation now, do you agree that he should not talk to her unless she takes it off the table or not?????? very easy question to answer yes or no." Just a few days to wait before Parliament seizes control of Brexit and May is forced to look on from the sidelines. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"offered corbyn talks and he puts conditions in the way before he will even talk to her.Very mature at this stage. This is, actually, what we did before we started our Brexit negotiations. Red lines. Corbyn has been banging on about Mays red lines for ages then goes and whacks his red line down lol If May isnt going to change her redlines, what's the point in talking to her?" its no good him standing opposite her in the commons bumping his gums if he asnt got the balls to sit round a table and talk isn’t this what he’s wanted all along cross party talks ? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh " It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing." do you agree with his game? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game?" Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. " well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest." Sometimes it's what you don't say that counts.There is much May and Corbyn don't say It's all smoke and mirrors. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh " We've had two and a half years of May unable because of her own small group of swivel eyed loons to even unify her own cabinet and political party and now she has with less than ten weeks to go realised she might want to engage with others to sort something.. She has given no indication that she will budge on her own red lines which has gotten us where we are now with the pathetic attempt to blame corbyn.. Really.. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest." You mean you only now understand what some of the negatives are with our adversarial political system.. By the way some of us on here were saying cross party compromise was the way to resolve such an important issue that affects the whole country after the vote and guess what the reaction from some leavers was no more than 'you lost, we won get over it'.. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest. Sometimes it's what you don't say that counts.There is much May and Corbyn don't say It's all smoke and mirrors. "if it’s what you don’t say then Corbyn as wo the game hands down as he asnt said much for two and half yrs lol | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest. Sometimes it's what you don't say that counts.There is much May and Corbyn don't say It's all smoke and mirrors. if it’s what you don’t say then Corbyn as wo the game hands down as he asnt said much for two and half yrs lol"Foxy, any manager of any team anywhere will tell you that if the opposition are squabbling and kicking each other then let them get on with it.. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest. You mean you only now understand what some of the negatives are with our adversarial political system.. By the way some of us on here were saying cross party compromise was the way to resolve such an important issue that affects the whole country after the vote and guess what the reaction from some leavers was no more than 'you lost, we won get over it'.. " Well that is the facts we are leaving its just about how and the remainers are clinging to corbyn to somehow change that,when the truth is he wants to leave too.I think he is running the clock down by contributing nothing so the next GE he can say look at the fuck up the tories made i really dont think you are looking at his big picture next week probably another vote of no confidence so that he can run the clock down. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh It's a game .The same game she's playing .Except she's losing.do you agree with his game? Yes It's a means to an end. With all games we must have a winner.. well done bob you are the 1st person to give a straight answer on the question nobody else has, lots of remarks but no one apart from you has said if they thought he was right or wrong not to talk.Personally i cant see how you can change anything without talking but heyho well done again for being honest. Sometimes it's what you don't say that counts.There is much May and Corbyn don't say It's all smoke and mirrors. if it’s what you don’t say then Corbyn as wo the game hands down as he asnt said much for two and half yrs lol
Foxy, any manager of any team anywhere will tell you that if the opposition are squabbling and kicking each other then let them get on with it.. "haha very true but it’s not much help to labour when there not doing aswell in the polls as they should bare in mind the shower of shit that’s in government | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"I really don't know enough about the deal on the table ( or in reality...not).What's to stop the May deal being designated the interim deal with a shelf life of 2 years upon which time either a permanent deal is in place or no deal? Just asking as I really don't know." Lol that's exactly what it is. A transitional arrangement for two years while the UK and EU talk about something more permanent. It got chucked out. The Europhiles thought it was worse than membership (do'h!) while the Europhobes complained it wasn't leaving the EU (do'h!) | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And now plan B to be announced on Monday. Another wasted week debating then the vote on the 29th rejected. Then plan C so more wasted time. What a waste of space. Our Cat do do a far better job. " "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result." - Albert Einstein | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Isn't Einstein an expert .Nobody has any time for liars like him or any informed opinions . Give me something on the side of a bus... "trust you bob to mention that bastard bus again it’s been nearly a week without anyone shouting about that bus you will stir all the loonies up again if yr not carefull lol | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh " Funny enough it looks like she is the one who has decided to put party before country as it looks she is bending to the DUP and the ERG group Basically the “cross party” idea was all for show... If the telegraph are right in saying they were going to try and change the good Friday agreement... that is like political dynamite | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh Funny enough it looks like she is the one who has decided to put party before country as it looks she is bending to the DUP and the ERG group Basically the “cross party” idea was all for show... If the telegraph are right in saying they were going to try and change the good Friday agreement... that is like political dynamite " I agree with you Fabio it’s looking that way but what about Corbyn refusing to meet and talk to may is he putting his country first ? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh Funny enough it looks like she is the one who has decided to put party before country as it looks she is bending to the DUP and the ERG group Basically the “cross party” idea was all for show... If the telegraph are right in saying they were going to try and change the good Friday agreement... that is like political dynamite I agree with you Fabio it’s looking that way but what about Corbyn refusing to meet and talk to may is he putting his country first ?" I’m not really a Corbin fan. But in this instance he maybe putting the country first. If he got a no deal Brexit off the cards that would be a fantastic achievement. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And now plan B to be announced on Monday. Another wasted week debating then the vote on the 29th rejected. Then plan C so more wasted time. What a waste of space. Our Cat do do a far better job. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result." - Albert Einstein" I've been saying that on here in relation to remainers making economic arguments about Brexit for the last 2 years. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh Funny enough it looks like she is the one who has decided to put party before country as it looks she is bending to the DUP and the ERG group Basically the “cross party” idea was all for show... If the telegraph are right in saying they were going to try and change the good Friday agreement... that is like political dynamite I agree with you Fabio it’s looking that way but what about Corbyn refusing to meet and talk to may is he putting his country first ? I’m not really a Corbin fan. But in this instance he maybe putting the country first. If he got a no deal Brexit off the cards that would be a fantastic achievement. " He's not achieved that though. All he's proved is that he's willing to meet and talk with people like Hamas and Hezbollah, but he won't meet and talk to the Prime minister of the UK. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Brexit is toxic, whatever the outcome. The Conservative Party seized ownership from the start and never let go. Corbyn wants nothing to do with a Brexit made in the Conservative Party, so he will let events take their course and completely poison the Conservative Party in the process. Ambiguity also means he does not need to confront his own party’s schizophrenia. In any event, the six tests set by Labour are impossible for any party to meet, so it is better for him to continue opposing than allow the toxicity to infect his own position through having any sort of ownership at this moment." Not true as Labour MP David Lammy has said in the press today the labour party are on the brink of splitting in two because Corbyn won't back a 2nd referendum. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"So he’s putting party before country then what a man eh Funny enough it looks like she is the one who has decided to put party before country as it looks she is bending to the DUP and the ERG group Basically the “cross party” idea was all for show... If the telegraph are right in saying they were going to try and change the good Friday agreement... that is like political dynamite I agree with you Fabio it’s looking that way but what about Corbyn refusing to meet and talk to may is he putting his country first ? I’m not really a Corbin fan. But in this instance he maybe putting the country first. If he got a no deal Brexit off the cards that would be a fantastic achievement. He's not achieved that though. All he's proved is that he's willing to meet and talk with people like Hamas and Hezbollah, but he won't meet and talk to the Prime minister of the UK. " I would respect him more if he had told hamas and hezbollah he would only meet and talk to them if they took bombing of the table | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"A free vote may be the only way out for all parties." Not going to happen, autocrat May has decided that she is delivering brexit and brexit there will be on the 29th March. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"THERESA May has confirmed that she will take the same plan back to Brussels to ask for the same changes before the same MPs vote on it the same way. The prime minister has confounded critics who accused her of being out of ideas with her innovative new approach of repeating her actions exactly to achieve an identical result. A Cabinet source said: “She’s issued everyone with scripts and warned us that she doesn’t want any improv. “We’re all to deliver exactly the same lines to the same people as we’ve been doing for the last month. I questioned why and she told me I hadn’t asked that first time around so I wasn’t allowed to ask it this time. “The leaders of the EU will send her back with no new concessions, then she gives the speech about how we must back her deal, then we vote against it, ‘ad infinitum’ it says here.” May said: “Nothing has changed, can change or will ever change. Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit.” " This actually happened today | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"THERESA May has confirmed that she will take the same plan back to Brussels to ask for the same changes before the same MPs vote on it the same way. The prime minister has confounded critics who accused her of being out of ideas with her innovative new approach of repeating her actions exactly to achieve an identical result. A Cabinet source said: “She’s issued everyone with scripts and warned us that she doesn’t want any improv. “We’re all to deliver exactly the same lines to the same people as we’ve been doing for the last month. I questioned why and she told me I hadn’t asked that first time around so I wasn’t allowed to ask it this time. “The leaders of the EU will send her back with no new concessions, then she gives the speech about how we must back her deal, then we vote against it, ‘ad infinitum’ it says here.” May said: “Nothing has changed, can change or will ever change. Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit.” This actually happened today "She just needs to say it a bit louder this time. Then maybe Johnny Foreigner will finally understand...  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"THERESA May has confirmed that she will take the same plan back to Brussels to ask for the same changes before the same MPs vote on it the same way. The prime minister has confounded critics who accused her of being out of ideas with her innovative new approach of repeating her actions exactly to achieve an identical result. A Cabinet source said: “She’s issued everyone with scripts and warned us that she doesn’t want any improv. “We’re all to deliver exactly the same lines to the same people as we’ve been doing for the last month. I questioned why and she told me I hadn’t asked that first time around so I wasn’t allowed to ask it this time. “The leaders of the EU will send her back with no new concessions, then she gives the speech about how we must back her deal, then we vote against it, ‘ad infinitum’ it says here.” May said: “Nothing has changed, can change or will ever change. Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit is Brexit.” This actually happened today
She just needs to say it a bit louder this time. Then maybe Johnny Foreigner will finally understand...
"Absolutely. Speak at half the speed and twice the volume and those damned foreign chappies will get the message | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Post new Message to Thread |
| back to top |  |
