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By *icksfocus OP   Man
over a year ago

Pontefract

So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit "

Yep - next

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit "

I think the EU will come up with a solution to the backstop they have as much to lose if not more than we do in a no deal especially southern ireland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit I think the EU will come up with a solution to the backstop they have as much to lose if not more than we do in a no deal especially southern ireland."

Being negative again!

Both the UK government and the EU have stated the backstop is last resort!

Liam Fox reckons trade deal is easy - 20 months should be enough time!

Technology can sort the border, got 20 months to develop and install it-the British government has a proven track record with regards to introducing new technologies!

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit I think the EU will come up with a solution to the backstop they have as much to lose if not more than we do in a no deal especially southern ireland.

Being negative again!

Both the UK government and the EU have stated the backstop is last resort!

Liam Fox reckons trade deal is easy - 20 months should be enough time!

Technology can sort the border, got 20 months to develop and install it-the British government has a proven track record with regards to introducing new technologies!"

How is a solution to the backstop being negative? i think by the posts ive seen on here over time its always remainers that are always negative.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

There will be a trumpet fanfare heralding brave Boris and wise Mogg riding on their trusty steeds holding between them the mighty all resolving plan from the Erg..

They are just biding their time..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit I think the EU will come up with a solution to the backstop they have as much to lose if not more than we do in a no deal especially southern ireland.

Being negative again!

Both the UK government and the EU have stated the backstop is last resort!

Liam Fox reckons trade deal is easy - 20 months should be enough time!

Technology can sort the border, got 20 months to develop and install it-the British government has a proven track record with regards to introducing new technologies!How is a solution to the backstop being negative? i think by the posts ive seen on here over time its always remainers that are always negative."

If having to break the news to someone that something they keep saying is cloud cuckoo land makes one negative then yep you got it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit I think the EU will come up with a solution to the backstop they have as much to lose if not more than we do in a no deal especially southern ireland.

Being negative again!

Both the UK government and the EU have stated the backstop is last resort!

Liam Fox reckons trade deal is easy - 20 months should be enough time!

Technology can sort the border, got 20 months to develop and install it-the British government has a proven track record with regards to introducing new technologies!How is a solution to the backstop being negative? i think by the posts ive seen on here over time its always remainers that are always negative.

If having to break the news to someone that something they keep saying is cloud cuckoo land makes one negative then yep you got it..

"

Hey they have said so - cuckoo cuckoo

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

She will survive this vote.

Do any Tory MPs despise her enough to take down their own Government?

Only if they think it will precipitate her resignation and give them 14 days to find a new, temporary PM.

Too many risks there, but we know some seem hell-bent on destruction, so who knows.

If she survives and continues, Labour’s only remaining card to play is the referendum.

That could be an amendment to the Plan B that Mrs May must bring forward by Monday.

But a referendum on what?

Does Corbyn want to be smeared as the politician who would not accept the 2016 result?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit "

No deal Brexit is what was voted for by the people.

There wasn’t a option for abit in abit out.

Leave means leave. We should leave with no deal and go on WTO rules.

Problem is we have a remoaner PM handling negotiations which will always end badly. She should have never taken power.

If however we remain in the eu, democracy has fallen and we might as well become a dictatorship. There most likely will be riots and possibly a civil war.

Give the people what they voted for!

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Could you imagine what the french would do if they voted to leave and their government wanted another vote? I do admire them for taking no shit from their government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope she will win and expose Jeremy Corbyn as the hypocrite that we all know he is by saying enough is enough and that a new referendum is required to break the stalemate.

I'm afraid this process has been necessary to expose him and his party's sham unity over this matter.

A new referendum will be horrible and divisive but it is needed, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it, I personally don't want one. I think we should accept the deal on offer but I am happy to be given another opportunity to vote if given

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit

No deal Brexit is what was voted for by the people.

There wasn’t a option for abit in abit out.

Leave means leave. We should leave with no deal and go on WTO rules.

Problem is we have a remoaner PM handling negotiations which will always end badly. She should have never taken power.

If however we remain in the eu, democracy has fallen and we might as well become a dictatorship. There most likely will be riots and possibly a civil war.

Give the people what they voted for!

"

No it wasn't..

The leave side were saying vote leave and we will have countries begging us to trade and we can sort it all out quickly and simply..

They did not say vote leave and we will face an economic meltdown, that it'll be OK if your a car worker and not paid as the components for the production line are stuck on a lorry but don't worry..

The reality has still not dawned has it that promising the earth is complete twaddle..

Where is the plan?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Could you imagine what the french would do if they voted to leave and their government wanted another vote? I do admire them for taking no shit from their government."

Not sure the French would have been taken in with the promises written on a bus from the higher echelons and millionaires playing politics with their jobs and futures.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could you imagine what the french would do if they voted to leave and their government wanted another vote? I do admire them for taking no shit from their government.

Not sure the French would have been taken in with the promises written on a bus from the higher echelons and millionaires playing politics with their jobs and futures. "

If they were taken in and lied to they would be burning something or someone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".

If however we remain in the eu, democracy has fallen and we might as well become a dictatorship. There most likely will be riots and possibly a civil war.

Give the people what they voted for!

"

Whom normally screams "project fear"?

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit

No deal Brexit is what was voted for by the people.

There wasn’t a option for abit in abit out.

Leave means leave. We should leave with no deal and go on WTO rules.

Problem is we have a remoaner PM handling negotiations which will always end badly. She should have never taken power.

If however we remain in the eu, democracy has fallen and we might as well become a dictatorship. There most likely will be riots and possibly a civil war.

Give the people what they voted for!

No it wasn't..

The leave side were saying vote leave and we will have countries begging us to trade and we can sort it all out quickly and simply..

They did not say vote leave and we will face an economic meltdown, that it'll be OK if your a car worker and not paid as the components for the production line are stuck on a lorry but don't worry..

The reality has still not dawned has it that promising the earth is complete twaddle..

Where is the plan? "

That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result. "

why do you keep pushing forward with an idea that even your economist of choice, patrick minford, and his chums the economists for brexit freely admit will decimate the uk manufacturing and agri-food industries.....

is that the "collateral damage" worth paying?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"

That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result.

why do you keep pushing forward with an idea that even your economist of choice, patrick minford, and his chums the economists for brexit freely admit will decimate the uk manufacturing and agri-food industries.....

is that the "collateral damage" worth paying?"

Nobody has any confidence in experts anymore there are others like the chairman of jcb who say it will be better so its ok to pick people who support your view but in the end nobody knows for sure.Opionions are like arse holes everyone has one.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Could you imagine what the french would do if they voted to leave and their government wanted another vote? I do admire them for taking no shit from their government.

Not sure the French would have been taken in with the promises written on a bus from the higher echelons and millionaires playing politics with their jobs and futures. "

They’d have just set fire to the bus

-Matt

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit

No deal Brexit is what was voted for by the people.

There wasn’t a option for abit in abit out.

Leave means leave. We should leave with no deal and go on WTO rules.

Problem is we have a remoaner PM handling negotiations which will always end badly. She should have never taken power.

If however we remain in the eu, democracy has fallen and we might as well become a dictatorship. There most likely will be riots and possibly a civil war.

Give the people what they voted for!

No it wasn't..

The leave side were saying vote leave and we will have countries begging us to trade and we can sort it all out quickly and simply..

They did not say vote leave and we will face an economic meltdown, that it'll be OK if your a car worker and not paid as the components for the production line are stuck on a lorry but don't worry..

The reality has still not dawned has it that promising the earth is complete twaddle..

Where is the plan?

That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result. "

It was what was said, i have clearly not said it was on the paper which you well knew..

So you are now saying there are no economic negatives to just walking away with no deal?

what happened to your managed no deal deal?

No one in the leave camp however they were branded said the reality was anywhere near what any sensible person can now see may happen with no deal..

it was a con, ok you fell for it i get that it must hurt being mugged off by the likes of banks, mogg and the other multi millionaires who will share none of the pain a no deal will bring..

or do actually not give a fuck about that so you can waltz about gloating ..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result. "

It also contradicts every statement made by the Leave campaign promising new arrangements with the EU that would be even better than the old ones. No deal was repeatedly denied because, we were told, for example, German car-makers would not allow it.

You are re-writing history, yet again, so that you can keep building castles in the sand.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result.

why do you keep pushing forward with an idea that even your economist of choice, patrick minford, and his chums the economists for brexit freely admit will decimate the uk manufacturing and agri-food industries.....

is that the "collateral damage" worth paying?Nobody has any confidence in experts anymore there are others like the chairman of jcb who say it will be better so its ok to pick people who support your view but in the end nobody knows for sure.Opionions are like arse holes everyone has one."

They are the leave sides experts who people were quoting on here in the run up to the vote..

so if you now don't believe any of these experts and economists what do you base your belief in that it will all be ok..

Mogg, Boris, Farage etc?

its the reasoning and logic of saying i don't believe the guy in the garage who has listened to the obvious noise from my gearbox and that i can't get it in fifth as some other guys in other garages are known to be dodgy..

maybe i should consult the local road sweep or just keep driving around..

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Could you imagine what the french would do if they voted to leave and their government wanted another vote? I do admire them for taking no shit from their government.

Not sure the French would have been taken in with the promises written on a bus from the higher echelons and millionaires playing politics with their jobs and futures. "

They were taken in by macron easily enough

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's tough - I don't think the government will fail the confidence vote: the conservative reps will be too scared of losing power, depsite many voting against their government.

It would be ideal to have a general election transpire from this, so that all parties craft their plans for how to progress from this point. But it's not going to come straight away I think.

There's a huge risk of a no deal brexit but also there are other options - I'm just uncertain what is going to happen.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"

That's nonsense as none of that was on the ballot paper. The question on the ballot paper said remain or leave. The country voted Leave. The deal is dead so that means we must now leave on no deal WTO rules. A no deal respects democracy and still delivers on the referendum result.

why do you keep pushing forward with an idea that even your economist of choice, patrick minford, and his chums the economists for brexit freely admit will decimate the uk manufacturing and agri-food industries.....

is that the "collateral damage" worth paying?"

one thing we have learned over the last few yrs is economists experts polls they are all shite so why do we bother quoting their rubbish lol

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By *mokey and the bandit 1Couple
over a year ago

Dublin


"So what do we think will happen today?

I predict TM will survive the vote

Then go back to the EU

Unfortunately the EU won’t help with a better deal

And it will be no deal brexit I think the EU will come up with a solution to the backstop they have as much to lose if not more than we do in a no deal especially southern ireland."

Has a new country just been created?? Calling Ireland/the Republic of Ireland Southern Ireland is like calling England Southern Scotland

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