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"Nope ..but who in there right mind would put a remainder in charge of leaving ..see where we are now ...lets just go and tell the eu to stick it up there arse" The tories. Maybe the house should be allowed to decide who the top honcho is rather than the majority party ... | |||
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"Nope ..but who in there right mind would put a remainder in charge of leaving ..see where we are now ...lets just go and tell the eu to stick it up there arse" Where are all thelse hard line Brexiteers now? None of them stepped forward in the leadership campaign they all just disappeared into the shadows. | |||
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"Nope ..but who in there right mind would put a remainder in charge of leaving ..see where we are now ...lets just go and tell the eu to stick it up there arse Where are all thelse hard line Brexiteers now? None of them stepped forward in the leadership campaign they all just disappeared into the shadows. " To be honest I don't think they thought we'd vote leave and sh*t themselves when we did.....whats annoying is they all quit but moved sideways, wouldn't that be nice if we could do that in real life but if we quit we have to leave the company  politicians don't have a clue in our world......thats why they're panicking about leave because they're afraid of what will happen, the unknown! | |||
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" Where are all thelse hard line Brexiteers now? None of them stepped forward in the leadership campaign they all just disappeared into the shadows. " Quitters, in more ways than one. | |||
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"I voted leave, Lucy voted remain. We both would now vote leave if a “people’s” vote happened. We are not idiots like the media and remoaners call us. My business has only grown since the referendum and will continue to do so after we leave without a deal. Personally I think there shouldn’t be another vote until the original referendum result has been honoured. It will destroy democracy in the UK, well what’s left of it, if they decide to vote again. Just because remoaners lost doesn’t give them the right to demand another vote. If remain won would leave demand another vote, very unlikely. It was a in or out vote. Not abit in abit out. We should leave with no deal. I don’t see why everyone is so scared, this opens up so many opportunities for our country. Yes we might have to pay more for goods coming from EU, but they need us aswell. The EU has already said passports will be valid for two years after we leave regardless of what happens. The world will not end. Ww3 won’t break out. Flights will still run. Democracy is upheld. Driving you may need a international permit but that doesn’t take long. Weekly shop won’t increase much if at all. The EU should have remained a trade agreement, no more. The same people that was arguing we join the euro are remoaners...look how “well” the euro is doing now? Several EU countries are in or heading into a recession. Scaremongering that’s all it is. Get on with leaving already! " Great post and fully agree. | |||
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"Nope. My opinion is exactly the same. Haven’t become any more convinced or any less convinced. It’s panning out pretty much as I expected. The EU has plenty of faults. But there are no benefits to the uk if we leave. And there is plenty to lose in all of the various leave scenarios. Leaving is a no-win situation for the uk. Simple." Great post and fully agree | |||
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"I voted leave, Lucy voted remain. We both would now vote leave if a “people’s” vote happened. We are not idiots like the media and remoaners call us. My business has only grown since the referendum and will continue to do so after we leave without a deal. Personally I think there shouldn’t be another vote until the original referendum result has been honoured. It will destroy democracy in the UK, well what’s left of it, if they decide to vote again. Just because remoaners lost doesn’t give them the right to demand another vote. If remain won would leave demand another vote, very unlikely. It was a in or out vote. Not abit in abit out. We should leave with no deal. I don’t see why everyone is so scared, this opens up so many opportunities for our country. Yes we might have to pay more for goods coming from EU, but they need us aswell. The EU has already said passports will be valid for two years after we leave regardless of what happens. The world will not end. Ww3 won’t break out. Flights will still run. Democracy is upheld. Driving you may need a international permit but that doesn’t take long. Weekly shop won’t increase much if at all. The EU should have remained a trade agreement, no more. The same people that was arguing we join the euro are remoaners...look how “well” the euro is doing now? Several EU countries are in or heading into a recession. Scaremongering that’s all it is. Get on with leaving already! " totally agree with you | |||
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"I voted leave, Lucy voted remain. We both would now vote leave if a “people’s” vote happened. We are not idiots like the media and remoaners call us. My business has only grown since the referendum and will continue to do so after we leave without a deal. Personally I think there shouldn’t be another vote until the original referendum result has been honoured. It will destroy democracy in the UK, well what’s left of it, if they decide to vote again. Just because remoaners lost doesn’t give them the right to demand another vote. If remain won would leave demand another vote, very unlikely. It was a in or out vote. Not abit in abit out. We should leave with no deal. I don’t see why everyone is so scared, this opens up so many opportunities for our country. Yes we might have to pay more for goods coming from EU, but they need us aswell. The EU has already said passports will be valid for two years after we leave regardless of what happens. The world will not end. Ww3 won’t break out. Flights will still run. Democracy is upheld. Driving you may need a international permit but that doesn’t take long. Weekly shop won’t increase much if at all. The EU should have remained a trade agreement, no more. The same people that was arguing we join the euro are remoaners...look how “well” the euro is doing now? Several EU countries are in or heading into a recession. Scaremongering that’s all it is. Get on with leaving already! totally agree with you"me to. | |||
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"I voted leave, Lucy voted remain. We both would now vote leave if a “people’s” vote happened. We are not idiots like the media and remoaners call us. My business has only grown since the referendum and will continue to do so after we leave without a deal. Personally I think there shouldn’t be another vote until the original referendum result has been honoured. It will destroy democracy in the UK, well what’s left of it, if they decide to vote again. Just because remoaners lost doesn’t give them the right to demand another vote. If remain won would leave demand another vote, very unlikely. It was a in or out vote. Not abit in abit out. We should leave with no deal. I don’t see why everyone is so scared, this opens up so many opportunities for our country. Yes we might have to pay more for goods coming from EU, but they need us aswell. The EU has already said passports will be valid for two years after we leave regardless of what happens. The world will not end. Ww3 won’t break out. Flights will still run. Democracy is upheld. Driving you may need a international permit but that doesn’t take long. Weekly shop won’t increase much if at all. The EU should have remained a trade agreement, no more. The same people that was arguing we join the euro are remoaners...look how “well” the euro is doing now? Several EU countries are in or heading into a recession. Scaremongering that’s all it is. Get on with leaving already! totally agree with youme to. "So really bad stuff won’t happen. But some things will get slightly worse. And we will likely feel poorer. But it’s okay there may be some opportunities. And there’s a global downturn around the corner which some EU countries may get dragged into. If that’s the positive spin nowadays, it’s been down graded a lot in two years. | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? " No. But I'm saddened though not surprised at all that's gone on in 2 1/2 years. What it all appears to amount to can be summed up by a quote from a certain Turkish fellow I know: "They f@@k us, they f@@k us every day". | |||
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"Nope ...this is our United Kingdom and we will set our own rules on it ..Thank you eu but we had the best of it and now you can fuck off "What was the "best of it " for you?? | |||
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"No And knew it was going to be a pain to get out They don’t want to make it easy as other countries are watching this with interest One thing that no one has ever mentioned in this whole debate is had we voted to stay the ball game would have changed I have no doubt we would be forced into using the euro and other rules we have avioded" Project fear. We would still have article 50 in the back pocket. | |||
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"I voted leave, Lucy voted remain. We both would now vote leave if a “people’s” vote happened. We are not idiots like the media and remoaners call us. My business has only grown since the referendum and will continue to do so after we leave without a deal. Personally I think there shouldn’t be another vote until the original referendum result has been honoured. It will destroy democracy in the UK, well what’s left of it, if they decide to vote again. Just because remoaners lost doesn’t give them the right to demand another vote. If remain won would leave demand another vote, very unlikely. It was a in or out vote. Not abit in abit out. We should leave with no deal. I don’t see why everyone is so scared, this opens up so many opportunities for our country. Yes we might have to pay more for goods coming from EU, but they need us aswell. The EU has already said passports will be valid for two years after we leave regardless of what happens. The world will not end. Ww3 won’t break out. Flights will still run. Democracy is upheld. Driving you may need a international permit but that doesn’t take long. Weekly shop won’t increase much if at all. The EU should have remained a trade agreement, no more. The same people that was arguing we join the euro are remoaners...look how “well” the euro is doing now? Several EU countries are in or heading into a recession. Scaremongering that’s all it is. Get on with leaving already! " Which countries are heading into recession? What do you do in business? Why use remoaners, for the rest of your post you are better than That! | |||
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"I remain remain. However, if a sensible BREXIT plan ever comes forward that says how we'd leave and the bases of future trading arrangements with both the EU and the rest of the world, I could live with it. That's what should have probably happened before the referendum was called and definitely before Article 50 was triggered." Ditto. Thinking based on respecting the vote despite being on the losing side. However what is startling is the sheer incompetence of Davis,Fox and Johnson to deliver even an ounce of skill or effort as ministers to their political dream. Now it turns out there aren't even basic trade deals if we crash out on WTO terms FFS  | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? " I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting." Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically." Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs. | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs." Less than 1% brexit is already costing us just under 500m a week in lost growth. More than even gross EU contributions Please expand on your tariff argument? Aslo why did you vote remain in the first place? You got examples of the anti brexit stuff you are on about? | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs. Less than 1% brexit is already costing us just under 500m a week in lost growth. More than even gross EU contributions Please expand on your tariff argument? Aslo why did you vote remain in the first place? You got examples of the anti brexit stuff you are on about?" I voted remain but would now vote leave. Has some one poked you in the eye again. The anti Brexit comments on hear alone from people are there for all to see. I do not want to be part of that disgusting vile club. Just remind me how much money we could have lost if we had gone into the ERM or joined the euro All markets go up and down at uncertainty. Usually happens every ten years Remember when the interest rate was at 15 %. Thousands of houses repossessed every day When it al settles down and a deal is done do you think either side want tariffs on there goods ? | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion" I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion" Your right it has been organised badly. Piss up brewery couldn't come to mind. But these people are career politicians who have never run a real company before. | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion Your right it has been organised badly. Piss up brewery couldn't come to mind. But these people are career politicians who have never run a real company before." So who are you suggesting? | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs. Less than 1% brexit is already costing us just under 500m a week in lost growth. More than even gross EU contributions Please expand on your tariff argument? Aslo why did you vote remain in the first place? You got examples of the anti brexit stuff you are on about? I voted remain but would now vote leave. Has some one poked you in the eye again. The anti Brexit comments on hear alone from people are there for all to see. I do not want to be part of that disgusting vile club. Just remind me how much money we could have lost if we had gone into the ERM or joined the euro All markets go up and down at uncertainty. Usually happens every ten years Remember when the interest rate was at 15 %. Thousands of houses repossessed every day When it al settles down and a deal is done do you think either side want tariffs on there goods ? " " ERM that was the early 90s? And you still voted remain? You are presuming a deal will be done? Quote some anti brexit stuff from here I'll put some of the things pro brexit users have put...trust me it's worse | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently." It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right. | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right." Do you actually have evidence or are your posts as hollow are your bets? Project fear! Grow up. | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right." Number of votes? Are you going on the election line? That is a joke if you are although Farage and May do use it! | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs. Less than 1% brexit is already costing us just under 500m a week in lost growth. More than even gross EU contributions Please expand on your tariff argument? Aslo why did you vote remain in the first place? You got examples of the anti brexit stuff you are on about? I voted remain but would now vote leave. Has some one poked you in the eye again. The anti Brexit comments on hear alone from people are there for all to see. I do not want to be part of that disgusting vile club. Just remind me how much money we could have lost if we had gone into the ERM or joined the euro All markets go up and down at uncertainty. Usually happens every ten years Remember when the interest rate was at 15 %. Thousands of houses repossessed every day When it al settles down and a deal is done do you think either side want tariffs on there goods ? " ERM that was the early 90s? And you still voted remain? You are presuming a deal will be done? Quote some anti brexit stuff from here I'll put some of the things pro brexit users have put...trust me it's worse " Oooh there is your other eye. Just showing your the pound goes up and down on a cyclical basis. Of course a deal will be done. A supplier of mine in Germany has a meeting with Merkel next week Then there is the car manafacturers in the afternoon They are kicking off because they don't like uncertainty too. The EUROPEAN UNION in its original form is awesome however it has become too bloated and is run by a piss head. Why 2 head quarters? If it's so good let's get rid of our own MPs and save a fortune and let Europe run us. Really you want me to put Anti Brexit stuff up. I only have 4 days of battery life left. Are you so blind /naive at what is said about those who voted for Brexit. | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right. Do you actually have evidence or are your posts as hollow are your bets? Project fear! Grow up." The last bastion of a coward name calling P | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right. Do you actually have evidence or are your posts as hollow are your bets? Project fear! Grow up. The last bastion of a coward name calling P" What did I call you? | |||
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"Sorry but I am not in the least bit convinced that you ever voted for anything but Leave" But I don't care. You don't believe in the vote but it was there in front of your face. We lost. Any way guys and girls off to bed for me don't let the Brexit bugs bite | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs. Less than 1% brexit is already costing us just under 500m a week in lost growth. More than even gross EU contributions Please expand on your tariff argument? Aslo why did you vote remain in the first place? You got examples of the anti brexit stuff you are on about? I voted remain but would now vote leave. Has some one poked you in the eye again. The anti Brexit comments on hear alone from people are there for all to see. I do not want to be part of that disgusting vile club. Just remind me how much money we could have lost if we had gone into the ERM or joined the euro All markets go up and down at uncertainty. Usually happens every ten years Remember when the interest rate was at 15 %. Thousands of houses repossessed every day When it al settles down and a deal is done do you think either side want tariffs on there goods ? " ERM that was the early 90s? And you still voted remain? You are presuming a deal will be done? Quote some anti brexit stuff from here I'll put some of the things pro brexit users have put...trust me it's worse Oooh there is your other eye. Just showing your the pound goes up and down on a cyclical basis. Of course a deal will be done. A supplier of mine in Germany has a meeting with Merkel next week Then there is the car manafacturers in the afternoon They are kicking off because they don't like uncertainty too. The EUROPEAN UNION in its original form is awesome however it has become too bloated and is run by a piss head. Why 2 head quarters? If it's so good let's get rid of our own MPs and save a fortune and let Europe run us. Really you want me to put Anti Brexit stuff up. I only have 4 days of battery life left. Are you so blind /naive at what is said about those who voted for Brexit. " What business do you have? I can give you some tips that might help you! You're = you are, their is possessive not there. And yes, you've identified things on here it should be easy to find there is an facility to go back and copy and paste. | |||
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"Sorry but I am not in the least bit convinced that you ever voted for anything but Leave But I don't care. You don't believe in the vote but it was there in front of your face. We lost. Any way guys and girls off to bed for me don't let the Brexit bugs bite "Still time to pm me on the bet x | |||
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"No And knew it was going to be a pain to get out They don’t want to make it easy as other countries are watching this with interest One thing that no one has ever mentioned in this whole debate is had we voted to stay the ball game would have changed I have no doubt we would be forced into using the euro and other rules we have avioded" Nonsense Im afraid. We, along with Denmark, have a cast iron guarantee that we dont have to use the Euro. | |||
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"I voter Remain. Id vote Remain again. This shambles has merely convinced me that I was right first time" Yep, my thoughts as well. Not sure how the guy above has come to a different conclusion! | |||
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"Irrelevant of whether you voted leave or stay, In hindsight, would you have voted differently? I voted remain but would now vote leave. If I paid into a club that heavily subsided others at my cost and then the management took this the piss when I complained I would be off like shot. And some of the vile stuff some of my fellow remainers have come out with is disgusting. Vile? What like? Also paying into the club (0.7 percent of GDP) was obviously a net gain if you look at realistically. Nazi, rasisct, bigot,thick, pleb far right you no the score. Remind me how much is 0.7% of GDP is. Why can't we just trade with no barriers? Hey bmw can I buy your cars with no tariffs. Of course you can as long as you don apply tariffs. Less than 1% brexit is already costing us just under 500m a week in lost growth. More than even gross EU contributions Please expand on your tariff argument? Aslo why did you vote remain in the first place? You got examples of the anti brexit stuff you are on about? I voted remain but would now vote leave. Has some one poked you in the eye again. The anti Brexit comments on hear alone from people are there for all to see. I do not want to be part of that disgusting vile club. Just remind me how much money we could have lost if we had gone into the ERM or joined the euro All markets go up and down at uncertainty. Usually happens every ten years Remember when the interest rate was at 15 %. Thousands of houses repossessed every day When it al settles down and a deal is done do you think either side want tariffs on there goods ? " ERM that was the early 90s? And you still voted remain? You are presuming a deal will be done? Quote some anti brexit stuff from here I'll put some of the things pro brexit users have put...trust me it's worse Oooh there is your other eye. Just showing your the pound goes up and down on a cyclical basis. Of course a deal will be done. A supplier of mine in Germany has a meeting with Merkel next week Then there is the car manafacturers in the afternoon They are kicking off because they don't like uncertainty too. The EUROPEAN UNION in its original form is awesome however it has become too bloated and is run by a piss head. Why 2 head quarters? If it's so good let's get rid of our own MPs and save a fortune and let Europe run us. Really you want me to put Anti Brexit stuff up. I only have 4 days of battery life left. Are you so blind /naive at what is said about those who voted for Brexit. " By _mmabluFind posts by _mmablu TV/TS 11 hours ago upton wirral "Sounds like a united party one ready to lead. You may not have noticed, but the Labour Party is the biggest party in the UK. In fact there are nearly as many members of the Labour Party as in all the other parties combined. And we are united, our problem is that the party is still in the process of wresting control of the PLP and NEC back from a torylite enterist elite that took control of the party in the early 90's and moved the party into blue water allowing the ultra rightwing of the Conservative Party to move the Official Tories so far right that now their MP's can get away with having publicity photos taken at foodbank collection points claiming they support foodbanks when they are the cause of foodbanks! But don't worry, we are cleaning house and there is a reckoning coming. " Yes with nazis like you in the party lol. A brexit supporter calling someone a Nazi 10 hrs ago on here | |||
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"I voter Remain. Id vote Remain again. This shambles has merely convinced me that I was right first time Yep, my thoughts as well. Not sure how the guy above has come to a different conclusion!" The guy above you refer to isn't the only one though is he. There are 2 remainers who have posted on this thread who said they would now vote to Leave. I've yet to see a Leaver post to say they've changed their mind and would now vote remain. | |||
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"I wouldn't change my vote. There was no benefit to leaving two years ago and every thing I have seen since has only confirmed that. " | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right. Number of votes? Are you going on the election line? That is a joke if you are although Farage and May do use it! " There have actually been 3 votes now where the British people have indicated they want to Leave the EU. The first one was the last European MEP elections in the UK in 2014 which ukip won. In case you didn't get it the clue is in the name (United Kingdom Independence Party), and their main cause is to get the UK out of the EU. The 2nd one was the EU referendum in 2016 where 52% voted to Leave the EU. Was a high turnout (over 70%) and 17.4 million people is the biggest vote for anything, ever in the entire history of the UK. The 3rd one was the 2017 general election where parties with manifesto promises to respect the result of the referendum and Leave the EU got 85% combined share of the overall vote. | |||
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"Was reluctant remainer .Following the abject , inept incompetence of how the tories ( who called the referendum ) have dealt , or rather , been unable to deal with the situation they alone have caused , I am now quite a strong remainer ,, I am not calling for another referendum but if there was one wouldn't have to think this time , would definitely vote remain ,, so not changed my mind but have been convinced by May , Davis , Gove Johnson , Farage , Raab ( the run away MPs) to change my opinion I can well believe you, what I'm more interested in is the person above you that has seemingly changed his mind on the attitude of remainders. I'm guessing he's not looking at it in a logical way like you or he sees the world very differently. It's not just that It has been the utter bollocks from those with their snouts in the troff who keep coming out with project fear. Weather it is right or wrong we remainers lost. There has been a number of elections and votes to get us to this position There are people who want to overturn this democratic vote. This is very dangerous and Parliment will never be trusted again You do it and i guarantee you there will be trouble on the street Then we will see the rise of a far right party and I mean real far right. Number of votes? Are you going on the election line? That is a joke if you are although Farage and May do use it! There have actually been 3 votes now where the British people have indicated they want to Leave the EU. The first one was the last European MEP elections in the UK in 2014 which ukip won. In case you didn't get it the clue is in the name (United Kingdom Independence Party), and their main cause is to get the UK out of the EU. The 2nd one was the EU referendum in 2016 where 52% voted to Leave the EU. Was a high turnout (over 70%) and 17.4 million people is the biggest vote for anything, ever in the entire history of the UK. The 3rd one was the 2017 general election where parties with manifesto promises to respect the result of the referendum and Leave the EU got 85% combined share of the overall vote. " The general election one is a pathetic argument as there is no way Labour and the Conservative parties wouldn't Garner the vast majority of the Votes. The Lib Dems had also alienated most of their votes by going into coalition with the Consevatives after campainging on a more left wing stance than labour in 2008. | |||
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"I voter Remain. Id vote Remain again. This shambles has merely convinced me that I was right first time Yep, my thoughts as well. Not sure how the guy above has come to a different conclusion! The guy above you refer to isn't the only one though is he. There are 2 remainers who have posted on this thread who said they would now vote to Leave. I've yet to see a Leaver post to say they've changed their mind and would now vote remain. " One of whom a leave voter has said they don't believe he voted remain and looking at the post you'd have to agree! | |||
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" There have actually been 3 votes now where the British people have indicated they want to Leave the EU. The first one was the last European MEP elections in the UK in 2014 which ukip won. In case you didn't get it the clue is in the name (United Kingdom Independence Party), and their main cause is to get the UK out of the EU. The 2nd one was the EU referendum in 2016 where 52% voted to Leave the EU. Was a high turnout (over 70%) and 17.4 million people is the biggest vote for anything, ever in the entire history of the UK. The 3rd one was the 2017 general election where parties with manifesto promises to respect the result of the referendum and Leave the EU got 85% combined share of the overall vote. " I agree on your 2nd two points, but the first is far-fetched. What was the turn-out? 30-odd per cent? No-one billed it as a referendum on the EU and the vast majority of people did not care. | |||
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"I voter Remain. Id vote Remain again. This shambles has merely convinced me that I was right first time Yep, my thoughts as well. Not sure how the guy above has come to a different conclusion! The guy above you refer to isn't the only one though is he. There are 2 remainers who have posted on this thread who said they would now vote to Leave. I've yet to see a Leaver post to say they've changed their mind and would now vote remain. One of whom a leave voter has said they don't believe he voted remain and looking at the post you'd have to agree!" Yes that's me.... And I'm always reluctant to question another Fab members honesty in the forums, but I just had to call him out, I just don't believe him. I'm still not ready to change my mind as I've always been fearful of a federalist Europe, and that was the reason for me to vote leave, but if you were to ask me if I still feel so absolutely certain about the way I voted its a no....I am somewhat troubled by the possible financial implications for my children. | |||
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"I was unsure at first but researching it, everything pointed that to leave would be stupid I still vote remain I now wouldn't want to be associated with leave voters " Not surprising! | |||
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"Leave and even more leave after we've seen the contempt for us from the EU. So many of the EU countries are financially ruined, with high unemployment and a negative forecast (Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland etc) We're forecast (by the IMF) to have the highest growth, assuming we leave on a 'no deal's. We've subsidised the EU with over 120bn (that's the sum *after* we get anything back to spend how they dictate) since 2000, most of which has went to pay for EU government expansion. I think that money could have made a big difference to our towns and cities. Add to that the 'tariffs' we pay the EU, up to 80% on some goods. I'd rather that money was in our pockets. Today we're reading that the EU want to build a wall in Ireland, or at the very least a 'hard border'. In 10 years time I doubt anyone will admit they voted remain." If you believe that the money will be put back into our towns and cities you are living in cloud cuckoo coo land. Brexit will do more harm than good. | |||
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"Leave and even more leave after we've seen the contempt for us from the EU. So many of the EU countries are financially ruined, with high unemployment and a negative forecast (Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland etc) We're forecast (by the IMF) to have the highest growth, assuming we leave on a 'no deal's. We've subsidised the EU with over 120bn (that's the sum *after* we get anything back to spend how they dictate) since 2000, most of which has went to pay for EU government expansion. I think that money could have made a big difference to our towns and cities. Add to that the 'tariffs' we pay the EU, up to 80% on some goods. I'd rather that money was in our pockets. Today we're reading that the EU want to build a wall in Ireland, or at the very least a 'hard border'. In 10 years time I doubt anyone will admit they voted remain." What goods have an 80% tarriff? The EU have said they want to avoid a hard border and will look to find a way through even under no deal. However a hard border is the default for both sides of the border under a true no deal. No idea where you IMF numbers come from but we’re about the same as germany under a deal, and we would take a decent gdp hit under no deal. Need to do more digging to see the Eu hit ... | |||
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"In my humble opinion it’s the biggest act of economic self harm a country has done willingly. Still stay. " cobblers Leave leave leave I never wanted in that circus in the first place. The only people causing the harm are the juvenile remoaners. I include the MPS in that. If we had got on with it everything would be in place and ready now. Instead they still havnt a clue. That lot in parliament couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. We don't want an election... Are you listening Corbyn and we don't want a second referendum. Stop behaving like a fool. | |||
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"In my humble opinion it’s the biggest act of economic self harm a country has done willingly. Still stay. " Wilfully ignorant people commit wilfull acts of economic self harm. | |||
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"Leave and even more leave after we've seen the contempt for us from the EU. So many of the EU countries are financially ruined, with high unemployment and a negative forecast (Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland etc) We're forecast (by the IMF) to have the highest growth, assuming we leave on a 'no deal's. We've subsidised the EU with over 120bn (that's the sum *after* we get anything back to spend how they dictate) since 2000, most of which has went to pay for EU government expansion. I think that money could have made a big difference to our towns and cities. Add to that the 'tariffs' we pay the EU, up to 80% on some goods. I'd rather that money was in our pockets. Today we're reading that the EU want to build a wall in Ireland, or at the very least a 'hard border'. In 10 years time I doubt anyone will admit they voted remain." It sounds like a combination of gross assumptions and porky pies.. Links to the figures and the IMF guess please? | |||
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"Leave and even more leave after we've seen the contempt for us from the EU. So many of the EU countries are financially ruined, with high unemployment and a negative forecast (Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland etc) We're forecast (by the IMF) to have the highest growth, assuming we leave on a 'no deal's. We've subsidised the EU with over 120bn (that's the sum *after* we get anything back to spend how they dictate) since 2000, most of which has went to pay for EU government expansion. I think that money could have made a big difference to our towns and cities. Add to that the 'tariffs' we pay the EU, up to 80% on some goods. I'd rather that money was in our pockets. Today we're reading that the EU want to build a wall in Ireland, or at the very least a 'hard border'. In 10 years time I doubt anyone will admit they voted remain." This is an excellent example of the misunderstanding surrounding the EU. Sadly this seems to be commonplace. Seems far to easy to spread misinformation these days. | |||
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"Leave and even more leave after we've seen the contempt for us from the EU. So many of the EU countries are financially ruined, with high unemployment and a negative forecast (Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland etc) We're forecast (by the IMF) to have the highest growth, assuming we leave on a 'no deal's. We've subsidised the EU with over 120bn (that's the sum *after* we get anything back to spend how they dictate) since 2000, most of which has went to pay for EU government expansion. I think that money could have made a big difference to our towns and cities. Add to that the 'tariffs' we pay the EU, up to 80% on some goods. I'd rather that money was in our pockets. Today we're reading that the EU want to build a wall in Ireland, or at the very least a 'hard border'. In 10 years time I doubt anyone will admit they voted remain. This is an excellent example of the misunderstanding surrounding the EU. Sadly this seems to be commonplace. Seems far to easy to spread misinformation these days. " This.. Downright lies.. IMF report of Nov last year gives leaving with no deal as the worst option.. | |||
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"No matter what you voted for or still believe in the referendum in itself has damaged the country in all my years I have never come across so many divided opinions If the politicians had made one instead of asking us there would only be about 600 odd people who we could all blame "Wow! I absolutely agree with you.
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"Leave and even more leave after we've seen the contempt for us from the EU. So many of the EU countries are financially ruined, with high unemployment and a negative forecast (Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland etc) We're forecast (by the IMF) to have the highest growth, assuming we leave on a 'no deal's. We've subsidised the EU with over 120bn (that's the sum *after* we get anything back to spend how they dictate) since 2000, most of which has went to pay for EU government expansion. I think that money could have made a big difference to our towns and cities. Add to that the 'tariffs' we pay the EU, up to 80% on some goods. I'd rather that money was in our pockets. Today we're reading that the EU want to build a wall in Ireland, or at the very least a 'hard border'. In 10 years time I doubt anyone will admit they voted remain." Fake news, you should write for the Mail | |||
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"Didn't vote (was following the green and white army at the euros)... was thinking remain at the time but now...deffo leave. " What made you change your mind? | |||
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