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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Was wondering what people make/made of his speech from the other day?

https://youtu.be/1XEj64IFzQ8

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

I would say hes entitled to his view but for me i would say the EU is a con and a swindle so the opposite view to him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

He comes across as decent.

I shudder to think what his email in-box looks like now, though.

I know he has received torrents of racial abuse previously.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

I like him a lot, and that was a good speech. He's honest and to the point.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is."

Yeah watched it again just to please you and still disagree with him.They are elected by the people to do what the people want thats why we can kick them out every 5 years if they dont and get people in who can.A dictatorship is when people get the power and disregard the people,exactly what he is proposing.I dont want someone in the job telling me what i put him there for i know to do what the people want.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is.Yeah watched it again just to please you and still disagree with him.They are elected by the people to do what the people want thats why we can kick them out every 5 years if they dont and get people in who can.A dictatorship is when people get the power and disregard the people,exactly what he is proposing.I dont want someone in the job telling me what i put him there for i know to do what the people want."

You have a rather simplistic view of the situation but thanks for making it clear!

I think you've tweaked the definition of dictatorship to suit your agenda also.

Do you not think May has being trying to act in a dictatorial fashion in the past 2 years?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is.Yeah watched it again just to please you and still disagree with him.They are elected by the people to do what the people want thats why we can kick them out every 5 years if they dont and get people in who can.A dictatorship is when people get the power and disregard the people,exactly what he is proposing.I dont want someone in the job telling me what i put him there for i know to do what the people want.

You have a rather simplistic view of the situation but thanks for making it clear!

I think you've tweaked the definition of dictatorship to suit your agenda also.

Do you not think May has being trying to act in a dictatorial fashion in the past 2 years? "

She cant they wont let her.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is.Yeah watched it again just to please you and still disagree with him.They are elected by the people to do what the people want thats why we can kick them out every 5 years if they dont and get people in who can.A dictatorship is when people get the power and disregard the people,exactly what he is proposing.I dont want someone in the job telling me what i put him there for i know to do what the people want.

You have a rather simplistic view of the situation but thanks for making it clear!

I think you've tweaked the definition of dictatorship to suit your agenda also.

Do you not think May has being trying to act in a dictatorial fashion in the past 2 years? She cant they wont let her."

Who is they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should have lost Labour a good few votes

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army. "

She could of done on Brexit if it didn't require a vote! Who do you have to thank for that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army. "

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up,

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up,"

my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up. "

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?"

We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?"

You using a number, I think referendum should never be used as it goes against our political system.. wasn't it nearer 17,400,000 by the way?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?

You using a number, I think referendum should never be used as it goes against our political system.. wasn't it nearer 17,400,000 by the way?"

ok eddie you win i was wrong on the number happy now YOU win,seems that you are determined to carry on disagreeing I replied to the question on your post you dont like my reply and then continue on trying to score petty points for what? either have a serious debate or dont bother.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?

You using a number, I think referendum should never be used as it goes against our political system.. wasn't it nearer 17,400,000 by the way?ok eddie you win i was wrong on the number happy now YOU win,seems that you are determined to carry on disagreeing I replied to the question on your post you dont like my reply and then continue on trying to score petty points for what? either have a serious debate or dont bother."

I'm not Centaur...winning isn't everything. It's about getting you to understand what Lammy was talking about which you clearly did so..I have failed in essence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?

You using a number, I think referendum should never be used as it goes against our political system.. wasn't it nearer 17,400,000 by the way?ok eddie you win i was wrong on the number happy now YOU win,seems that you are determined to carry on disagreeing I replied to the question on your post you dont like my reply and then continue on trying to score petty points for what? either have a serious debate or dont bother.

I'm not Centaur...winning isn't everything. It's about getting you to understand what Lammy was talking about which you clearly did so..I have failed in essence. "

Don't waste your time! He'll find out soon enough ?

#74days

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?

You using a number, I think referendum should never be used as it goes against our political system.. wasn't it nearer 17,400,000 by the way?"

Goes against our political system? How exactly?

Parliament voted by overwhelming majority to have the referendum. Parliament said they would let the people decide our membership of the EU and they would enact the result of the referendum. A referendum is direct democracy, it is the purest form of democracy there is. The people voted to Leave.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?"

Exactly, you hit the nail on the head. If Eddie wants to be pedantic about numbers then Lammy thinks he knows better than 17.4 million people.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Should have lost Labour a good few votes"

I think Labour's overall behaviour since the general election has lost the Labour party a fair few votes, not just David Lammy's speech.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is.Yeah watched it again just to please you and still disagree with him.They are elected by the people to do what the people want thats why we can kick them out every 5 years if they dont and get people in who can.A dictatorship is when people get the power and disregard the people,exactly what he is proposing.I dont want someone in the job telling me what i put him there for i know to do what the people want.

You have a rather simplistic view of the situation but thanks for making it clear!

I think you've tweaked the definition of dictatorship to suit your agenda also.

Do you not think May has being trying to act in a dictatorial fashion in the past 2 years? "

May has been trying to deliver on the referendum result over the last 2 years. It appears David Lammy just wants to ignore the referendum result completely.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some of her own party the labour,snp and liberals.If you havnt got a majority you cant be a dictator.Unless you are a foreign country and have the army.

So, basically your dictator point has no place in this thread as we have elections every 5 years. Thank's for clearing that up, my point was dictators dont listen to the people they do what they want when they get power it was lammy who brought it up.

No he didn't he pointed out that MP should look after peoples interest even if it against their views...that's a lot different..It's also why we don't have the death penalty and homosexuality was decriminalised are you calling Roy Jenkins and Harold Wilson Dictators?We must agree to disagree 17000000 peoples views dont matter because david lammy knows whats good for us? what do you call that?

You using a number, I think referendum should never be used as it goes against our political system.. wasn't it nearer 17,400,000 by the way?

Goes against our political system? How exactly?

Parliament voted by overwhelming majority to have the referendum. Parliament said they would let the people decide our membership of the EU and they would enact the result of the referendum. A referendum is direct democracy, it is the purest form of democracy there is. The people voted to Leave. "

I've already explained this above.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Did you watch/listen to the the speech?

He basically defined what an MPs duty is.Yeah watched it again just to please you and still disagree with him.They are elected by the people to do what the people want thats why we can kick them out every 5 years if they dont and get people in who can.A dictatorship is when people get the power and disregard the people,exactly what he is proposing.I dont want someone in the job telling me what i put him there for i know to do what the people want.

You have a rather simplistic view of the situation but thanks for making it clear!

I think you've tweaked the definition of dictatorship to suit your agenda also.

Do you not think May has being trying to act in a dictatorial fashion in the past 2 years?

May has been trying to deliver on the referendum result over the last 2 years. It appears David Lammy just wants to ignore the referendum result completely. "

So you agree that Mays deal is the Brexit you voted for?

Even you can't believe that.

She would of got this through unchecked if it wasn't for Miller.

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,

Just listened to his speech very good and true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He comes across as decent.

I shudder to think what his email in-box looks like now, though.

I know he has received torrents of racial abuse previously."

.

So did labour MP Sarah champion, she's also having to live with police security after thousands of death threats.

Some people just take words and opinions far too seriously

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