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By *oxes OP   Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

Illiberal democracy is a term conjured by the Hungarian leader to talk about his own hard polarizing right government.

So the question is are we leaving in the time of the illiberal democracies?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Illiberal democracy is a term conjured by the Hungarian leader to talk about his own hard polarizing right government.

So the question is are we leaving in the time of the illiberal democracies? "

Yes. It works because initially it appears to work. The benefits of free markets with governments imposing controls that prevent descent.

However, once corruption sets in with loss of journalistic and judicial independence and finally the loss of actual democracy which is voted away people wake up in a dictatorship that they created themselves. Clamoured for in fact.

Too late.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Your post reminds me of something one of the ancient Greek philosophers described.

Maybe Plato or someone.

The cycle of freedom and tyranny.

Too much freedom too quickly and it flips to tyranny.

Or something like that.

I guess Hungary has emerged from tyranny, tasted freedom and might like a return to tyranny.

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By *oxes OP   Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"Your post reminds me of something one of the ancient Greek philosophers described.

Maybe Plato or someone.

The cycle of freedom and tyranny.

Too much freedom too quickly and it flips to tyranny.

Or something like that.

I guess Hungary has emerged from tyranny, tasted freedom and might like a return to tyranny.

"

Plato's democracy that is from I believe.

Macovelli talked about tyrants acting quickly and maintaining power by any means.

News night did a great video before the US election utilizing Plato's work and applying it to Donald J trump.

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By *oxes OP   Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"Illiberal democracy is a term conjured by the Hungarian leader to talk about his own hard polarizing right government.

So the question is are we leaving in the time of the illiberal democracies?

Yes. It works because initially it appears to work. The benefits of free markets with governments imposing controls that prevent descent.

However, once corruption sets in with loss of journalistic and judicial independence and finally the loss of actual democracy which is voted away people wake up in a dictatorship that they created themselves. Clamoured for in fact.

Too late."

That's an interesting and well put point you made there.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

In the 20th century, the contest was between three different ideologies.

a) Fascism

b) Communism

c) Liberal Democracy

Ultimately, liberal democracy saw off both.

People valued liberal democracy when they looked at the alternative on offer.

For the past 30 years, there has been nothing to compare it with, nothing else on offer, no yardstick to measure the value of liberal democracy.

Some become beguiled by the idea of creating their own alternative.

It is possible because of the passage of time. As time advances, fewer and fewer people exist who know what that alternative looks and feels like.

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By *oxes OP   Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"In the 20th century, the contest was between three different ideologies.

a) Fascism

b) Communism

c) Liberal Democracy

Ultimately, liberal democracy saw off both.

People valued liberal democracy when they looked at the alternative on offer.

For the past 30 years, there has been nothing to compare it with, nothing else on offer, no yardstick to measure the value of liberal democracy.

Some become beguiled by the idea of creating their own alternative.

It is possible because of the passage of time. As time advances, fewer and fewer people exist who know what that alternative looks and feels like.

"

That's quite a powerful way of explaining it. I wonder how much did the crash effected people opinion on there own governments political system.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the 20th century, the contest was between three different ideologies.

a) Fascism

b) Communism

c) Liberal Democracy

Ultimately, liberal democracy saw off both.

People valued liberal democracy when they looked at the alternative on offer.

For the past 30 years, there has been nothing to compare it with, nothing else on offer, no yardstick to measure the value of liberal democracy.

Some become beguiled by the idea of creating their own alternative.

It is possible because of the passage of time. As time advances, fewer and fewer people exist who know what that alternative looks and feels like.

"

Yuval Noah harrari has tried addressing this point in all three of his books.

Ultimately liberal democracy is undergoing a crisis in the West as it's no really had a viable opponent. But more crucially it has not really adapted to a world of physical and digital globalisation.

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By *oxes OP   Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex


"In the 20th century, the contest was between three different ideologies.

a) Fascism

b) Communism

c) Liberal Democracy

Ultimately, liberal democracy saw off both.

People valued liberal democracy when they looked at the alternative on offer.

For the past 30 years, there

has been nothing to compare it with, nothing else on offer, no yardstick to measure the value of liberal democracy.

Some become beguiled by the idea of creating their own alternative.

It is possible because of the passage of time. As time advances, fewer and fewer people exist who know what that alternative looks and feels like.

Yuval Noah harrari has tried addressing this point in all three of his books.

Ultimately liberal democracy is undergoing a crisis in the West as it's no really had a viable opponent. But more crucially it has not really adapted to a world of physical and digital globalisation."

I will have to read his books after i have done this particular Uni essay, what were the names of the books he wrote?

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