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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I see played out daily on this forum the "brexiteers" and the "remainers" arguing about what is best for the country and one side may be right or it may be wrong I can't say but from a personal view I can only tell you what will happen to my workforce.

This scenario is 95% likely to happen to me and my work force with a "no deal brexit".

I work for a company with a German owned parent company, we have a workforce of approximately 350 people in the UK.

Our parent company have been really good for us and have invested massively in our plant over the last decade allowing our plant to grow and have a multi million pound turnover, but as in all business profits come before anything else.

Because our sister plant in Germany and us in the UK make pretty much the same product lines we have been informed of the plans in the case of the UK starting to trade on WTO rules.

Basically they are going to leave us in the UK to supply customers in the UK and customers from the rest of the world that have no trade deal in place with the EU and take the work from us that we have supplying the EU,Turkey and other notable customers. This means a probable reduced turnover running into the millions of pounds.

Meaning our plant is going to be about 30% over capacity. Sadly this will mean over 215 workers being moved from 7 day working back to 5 day working and a reduction in their wage of approximately £8000 per year. We hope to ride this out with no job losses but we will be over staffed if the work load does not pick back up pretty fast and it is no guarantee.

I know the referendum vote in my plant was approximately 50 50 in 2016 but now after briefings and taking time to talk to them personally, another referendum vote would probably see a vote to remain by almost 95%.

I have had to answer loads of questions on why this wasn't explained to them before the vote and my only answer has been because we didn't know, there were no plans in place before the referendum.

I am sure this scenario is being played out all over the country in some shape or form but all we can hope for is some kind of free trade deal with the EU and not to go crashing out with a no deal, at least from a personal point of view.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Op I sincerely hope that it doesn't happen as your company is having to plan for, worrying times for many people in similar circumstances..

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

its a shame the company dont pay enough so that the workers dont have to work 7 days a week.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"its a shame the company dont pay enough so that the workers dont have to work 7 days a week."

Don't think you quite understand, we have a four shift system that allows production to continue for 7 days a week, we will potentially have to move back to a 3 shift system that only works 5 days a week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about"

Did you read the post? I'm not sure your blind optimism will help or is really apporiate.

Op I hope things turn out as well as they can whatever happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

small bands and musicians on independent labels aren't getting any tour bookings and festival appearances in europe next year .... this is costing the UK billions already as it's normal to be paid half of the fee up front to secure booking

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there. Also locust harvesters to harvest the plagues of locusts that will be sweeping over the land because of Brexit.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about"


"Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there"

I wonder how close to home it will have to touch some of you before a degree of empathy or sincerity kicks in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there. Also locust harvesters to harvest the plagues of locusts that will be sweeping over the land because of Brexit. "

You are beyond belief Centy. Do you actually inhabit a normal world or are you so bitter and twisted that anything that goes against your line of invective is perceived as a sign of weakness and is reason enough for you to stick the knife in and twist it? You are a genuinely horrible little man and I hope you’re statements come back to bite you hard. Disgusting!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there. Also locust harvesters to harvest the plagues of locusts that will be sweeping over the land because of Brexit. "

You've finally truly shown your colours there Centy, though we've known for quite some time but to openly mock is another level of low.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

scoffing at other peoples misfortune? that accurately sums up the whole ethic behind the brextremists. borders? sovereignty? immigration? ... nah! they just want to punish people who are on 25 pence an hour more than themselves .... pathetic

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By *naqMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"small bands and musicians on independent labels aren't getting any tour bookings and festival appearances in europe next year .... this is costing the UK billions already as it's normal to be paid half of the fee up front to secure booking "

Theirs a phenomenal festival circuit in the UK to fall back on though with loads of grass roots stuff popping up all over Scotland in the last 10 yrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"small bands and musicians on independent labels aren't getting any tour bookings and festival appearances in europe next year .... this is costing the UK billions already as it's normal to be paid half of the fee up front to secure booking

Theirs a phenomenal festival circuit in the UK to fall back on though with loads of grass roots stuff popping up all over Scotland in the last 10 yrs"

so your advice is to limit the amount of work and market share available ... you've clearly not thought this through .. and it's extremely clear you have not one iota of knowledge as to how revenue is generated through music or the wider arts

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By *naqMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"small bands and musicians on independent labels aren't getting any tour bookings and festival appearances in europe next year .... this is costing the UK billions already as it's normal to be paid half of the fee up front to secure booking

Theirs a phenomenal festival circuit in the UK to fall back on though with loads of grass roots stuff popping up all over Scotland in the last 10 yrs

so your advice is to limit the amount of work and market share available ... you've clearly not thought this through .. and it's extremely clear you have not one iota of knowledge as to how revenue is generated through music or the wider arts"

Wooooaaah calm your emotions first off i wasn't rude or tried to talk down to you so reel your neck in. How are Indy bands being pushed out of the Europian circuit and what does brexit have to do with it? The UK's festival circuit especially Scotland is and has been booming for the last ten years i know plenty of peoples that have worked and toured the circuit consistanly for more than 10 yrs and the rise in engineers and producers can be seen for itself Drum n Bass and Hip Hop are huge in central Scotland with independent production companies and record labels popping up even more frequently. Dont have a clue what your on about or where you get your info from also i have a HNC in sound engineering and digital music production

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wooooaaah calm your emotions first off i wasn't rude or tried to talk down to you so reel your neck in. How are Indy bands being pushed out of the Europian circuit and what does brexit have to do with it? The UK's festival circuit especially Scotland is and has been booming for the last ten years i know plenty of peoples that have worked and toured the circuit consistanly for more than 10 yrs and the rise in engineers and producers can be seen for itself Drum n Bass and Hip Hop are huge in central Scotland with independent production companies and record labels popping up even more frequently. Dont have a clue what your on about or where you get your info from also i have a HNC in sound engineering and digital music production"

when the stupidity is sooo strong there is always double face palm

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By *naqMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Surely your indy bands struggling to tour Europe wouldnt cripple our economy and cost the country millions? Wouldn't it be more benificial to have local events and grow a fan base with a strong following and expand from their? Transitioning from local gigs to festivals finding and booking local talent eventually creating either an independant record label or production company capable of sustaining or creating a circuit? Worked for us just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

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By *naqMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"Wooooaaah calm your emotions first off i wasn't rude or tried to talk down to you so reel your neck in. How are Indy bands being pushed out of the Europian circuit and what does brexit have to do with it? The UK's festival circuit especially Scotland is and has been booming for the last ten years i know plenty of peoples that have worked and toured the circuit consistanly for more than 10 yrs and the rise in engineers and producers can be seen for itself Drum n Bass and Hip Hop are huge in central Scotland with independent production companies and record labels popping up even more frequently. Dont have a clue what your on about or where you get your info from also i have a HNC in sound engineering and digital music production

when the stupidity is sooo strong there is always double face palm "

No worries usual shit from the usual Trolls answer a fucking questiob for once ffs!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely your indy bands struggling to tour Europe wouldnt cripple our economy and cost the country millions? Wouldn't it be more benificial to have local events and grow a fan base with a strong following and expand from their? Transitioning from local gigs to festivals finding and booking local talent eventually creating either an independant record label or production company capable of sustaining or creating a circuit? Worked for us just saying"

ha!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wooooaaah calm your emotions first off i wasn't rude or tried to talk down to you so reel your neck in. How are Indy bands being pushed out of the Europian circuit and what does brexit have to do with it? The UK's festival circuit especially Scotland is and has been booming for the last ten years i know plenty of peoples that have worked and toured the circuit consistanly for more than 10 yrs and the rise in engineers and producers can be seen for itself Drum n Bass and Hip Hop are huge in central Scotland with independent production companies and record labels popping up even more frequently. Dont have a clue what your on about or where you get your info from also i have a HNC in sound engineering and digital music production

when the stupidity is sooo strong there is always double face palm

No worries usual shit from the usual Trolls answer a fucking questiob for once ffs!!!!"

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By *naqMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Proves my point really doesnt it? :/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Proves my point really doesnt it? :/"

you haven't a clue have you ... you keep at your barn dance in Dunbeg chap

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything. "

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything. "

Exactly the kind of thinking that got us into this mess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring. "

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

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By *naqMan
over a year ago

Ayrshire

Keep the play ground comebacks to yourself if you cant form a sentence or a half decent reply dont bother. You've had fuck all to say and anything you have said has been a waste of my time tbh :/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keep the play ground comebacks to yourself if you cant form a sentence or a half decent reply dont bother. You've had fuck all to say and anything you have said has been a waste of my time tbh :/"

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By *oodtimeguy4youMan
over a year ago

Northumberland

The referendum was mainly focused on Britain and not the effect on others.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going? "

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring. "

While mocking people who's jobs will become at risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. "

"The Australian government says the EU is its largest export services market and also the country’s largest source of foreign investment. Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull has meanwhile promised not to “muck around” in doing a deal with the UK, but talks are yet to begin because Britain cannot legally start them until it has left the union."

I wonder what the better deal will be??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

shame for the brexcrement that turnbull's political career went super nova six months ago innit

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

From a personal point of view I have no idea how it will effect me , but when I heard today that we are to have 3,500 troops on stand-by , I hope this is to help with traffic duties and not that they may have to be sent to Nortern Ireland if any deal / no deal messes up The Good Friday Agreement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am all for Brexit but a sensible sane Brexit. The level of sheer incompetence shown by our political class is beyond belief. The coming Brexit in its present form will take us decades to recover from.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

Centy and 1 or 2 others are openly honest about their 'fuck you. I'm alright' attitude that was spawned by Thatchers 'greed is good' 'trickle down and flood out' economic 3 card chase the lady trick. It is because of the likes of them I am sorry to say I hope the Tories crash us out with the hardest of brexits. Then when we are back to the soup kitchens of the 20's and 30's (I will be one of those who needs them) I hope the British people grow a spine and instead of tugging their forelock to the likes of BoJo, JRM, pig fucker CallMeDave and Man of The Common People Nige they take them out and string the troughing fuckers up!

We have had 40 years of this shit from Tories, there are about 250,000 of the fuckers, its time to put them down before they sacrifice us all in the name of profit!

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a bitter angry old man who has seen everything he, his parents and grandparents fought, died and then paid for, sold off to feather the nests of the Tory elite and their mega rich backers. So anything I say can be dismissed, as the same Tory fuckers and their backers poison the world in the name of profit. While one of them (Elon Musk) builds a space arc for the billionaires to fuck off on when the air is so poisoned we can't breath it any longer! But hey-ho at least I can die knowing that Centy and his ilk are facing the same end as the rest of us.

So I guess every cloud and all that...

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything. "

How long will the inconvenience last?

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about"

So the country's economic strategy and future fortunes should be based upon hope and to hell with reality? A No Deal Brexit is economic self harm. Even Mogg admits that for years we will be worse off. For those who are living life on the fiscal edge, No Deal will finish them off.

Personally, it makes little or no difference to me. Whatever happens, I'll be just fine. However, this shouldn't be about individuals, it's about our country as a whole and the damage this will cause is not something that I feel comfortable about in the slightest. A weaker country economically will impact the poorest and most vulnerable disproportionately. Choosing to ignore that fact (and those who will suffer because of it) is disgraceful. Where has the idea of compassion and care disappeared to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brexit will be like clearing up a huge great pile of shit. I hope this country is ready for cleaning up shit. Come on, roll your sleeves up and prepare to get dirty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there. Also locust harvesters to harvest the plagues of locusts that will be sweeping over the land because of Brexit. "

How did you manage to type this post while your head was buried so deep in the sand?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a cunning escape plan ,should Blighty sink beneath the waves under the enormous weight that the steaming pile of brexshit puts upon it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I didn't put this post on to look for sympathy I wanted to show how it will effect the "common" man in our area. As our workforce is pretty localised our local economy could loose out on over £1.7million per year (215x£8000) that my team would have normally put into local businesses aswell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think my job is on the line big time. I work indirectly for construction industry and that is about to bust again IMO. I'm 57 and not sure if I've got enough put by to survive the years ahead but it will probably have to do. Thankyou Leave people for your kind thoughtfulness as to the consequences of your cross in June 2016.

I will look forward to camping in Cornwall next year rather than helping the local economies in other parts of Europe. Who cares about them eh. The dog will like it anyway if he gets a bit more local holidays

Mind you the pound will be such a basket case that Cornwall will be more crowded than ever LOL. Britain will become the tourist attraction of Europe if the foreigners can stand our weather. Might be an idea to open up the house as a B & B. mmmmmmmmm a swingers one LOL.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't put this post on to look for sympathy I wanted to show how it will effect the "common" man in our area. As our workforce is pretty localised our local economy could loose out on over £1.7million per year (215x£8000) that my team would have normally put into local businesses aswell"

You only posted what is happening to you & the company you work for due to BREXIT.

It wasn't an anti BREXIT thread, just a valid accurate presentation of real life implications that BREXIT is bringing about.

The problems are when selfish self serving "idiots" who cannot see beyond their rancid self righteous up their own arse view point are challenged and all they can do in the face of facts they don't like is to mock and belittle the poster.

To people like them having a feeling that they have "stuck it to the establishment" is the main thing and care fuck all else as long as they have their misguided belief of power.

Believing BREXIT will be good is fine, mocking people who explain it will be bad for them is just a whole new level of low.

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By *athy1Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there. Also locust harvesters to harvest the plagues of locusts that will be sweeping over the land because of Brexit. "

You disgust us vile comments as usual from you the lowest of the low for God’s sake the op was only saying what’s going to happen to his company and you have to have the last word don’t you vile individual there are decent brexiteers out there unfortunately your not one of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I think that you have got to protect yourself and batten down the hatches.

We have made ourselves as brexit proof as possible :

Sold an apartment so we have several years income in cash.

Got our French driving licences

Got our carte de sejours - although it cost us a lot for translations.

Transferred all liquid assets out of the UK.

Can't do no more - just got to wait and see now.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about

Oh well look on the bright side, if you believe the Project fear remain scaremongering the UK will need hundreds, or possibly thousands (why stop there, maybe millions) more border and customs officers and staff so plenty of jobs up for grabs there

I wonder how close to home it will have to touch some of you before a degree of empathy or sincerity kicks in."

Not that uncommon with idealogy driven zealots to have those normal traits absent from their make up, unless one totally agrees with their mantra..

Hint of the sociopathic too..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I didn't put this post on to look for sympathy I wanted to show how it will effect the "common" man in our area. As our workforce is pretty localised our local economy could loose out on over £1.7million per year (215x£8000) that my team would have normally put into local businesses aswell"

You only posted the possible direct consequences to yourself and others, to be honest whilst it's a shit outcome if that is the case it gives real information to others and that helps but there are those who you can see who frankly refuse to accept there will be and has been any downsides to this decision..

That's because no matter what negatives happen to others, possibly even people they know or relatives of theirs they want to be able to say they won you lot shut up..

It's beyond belief but its how they are..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about"

Most selfish post I have seen for a while.

Fingers crossed for you, OP

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring. "

No Centy, the OP here was saying what is very likely to happen to them personally as a result of no deal. This is not being pessimistic, this is just being realistic in the face of what is looking increasingly more likely.

Will we recover and grow in the future? Yes, hopefully we will, but what will be the impact in the meantime to all those people that have had to suffer hardship in the meantime. Just so you can pretend it was necessary in order to have a blue passport?

-Matt

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I see played out daily on this forum the "brexiteers" and the "remainers" arguing about what is best for the country and one side may be right or it may be wrong I can't say but from a personal view I can only tell you what will happen to my workforce.

This scenario is 95% likely to happen to me and my work force with a "no deal brexit".

I work for a company with a German owned parent company, we have a workforce of approximately 350 people in the UK.

Our parent company have been really good for us and have invested massively in our plant over the last decade allowing our plant to grow and have a multi million pound turnover, but as in all business profits come before anything else.

Because our sister plant in Germany and us in the UK make pretty much the same product lines we have been informed of the plans in the case of the UK starting to trade on WTO rules.

Basically they are going to leave us in the UK to supply customers in the UK and customers from the rest of the world that have no trade deal in place with the EU and take the work from us that we have supplying the EU,Turkey and other notable customers. This means a probable reduced turnover running into the millions of pounds.

Meaning our plant is going to be about 30% over capacity. Sadly this will mean over 215 workers being moved from 7 day working back to 5 day working and a reduction in their wage of approximately £8000 per year. We hope to ride this out with no job losses but we will be over staffed if the work load does not pick back up pretty fast and it is no guarantee.

I know the referendum vote in my plant was approximately 50 50 in 2016 but now after briefings and taking time to talk to them personally, another referendum vote would probably see a vote to remain by almost 95%.

I have had to answer loads of questions on why this wasn't explained to them before the vote and my only answer has been because we didn't know, there were no plans in place before the referendum.

I am sure this scenario is being played out all over the country in some shape or form but all we can hope for is some kind of free trade deal with the EU and not to go crashing out with a no deal, at least from a personal point of view."

can i just say that my heart goes out to you.... because you live close to me and i don't think this is the first story from the north east we are going to hear basically saying the same thing.....

i work for the state pensions side of the civil service, we finally got the go ahead yesterday to have a specific team dealing with exiting the eu... and getting documents for those living abroad who will need state pension statements as part of living in another country (probably because our last 2 ministers of state were leavers and were of the mindset that "not needed...bad thing not happening..... funny enough we got a new minister of state in the last few weeks, and when we put in the request there words were "good god yes, why was it not in place before! to be told it was veto'd by their two predecessors!)

i speak to worried people everyday, and where a lot of the questions we are asked come with the answer "at the moment we don't know" the one thing we do try to show is empathy! and i think our customers appriate it whilst being as professional as we can

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By *oole2010Couple
over a year ago

southampto

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Centy and 1 or 2 others are openly honest about their 'fuck you. I'm alright' attitude that was spawned by Thatchers 'greed is good' 'trickle down and flood out' economic 3 card chase the lady trick. It is because of the likes of them I am sorry to say I hope the Tories crash us out with the hardest of brexits. Then when we are back to the soup kitchens of the 20's and 30's (I will be one of those who needs them) I hope the British people grow a spine and instead of tugging their forelock to the likes of BoJo, JRM, pig fucker CallMeDave and Man of The Common People Nige they take them out and string the troughing fuckers up!

We have had 40 years of this shit from Tories, there are about 250,000 of the fuckers, its time to put them down before they sacrifice us all in the name of profit!

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a bitter angry old man who has seen everything he, his parents and grandparents fought, died and then paid for, sold off to feather the nests of the Tory elite and their mega rich backers. So anything I say can be dismissed, as the same Tory fuckers and their backers poison the world in the name of profit. While one of them (Elon Musk) builds a space arc for the billionaires to fuck off on when the air is so poisoned we can't breath it any longer! But hey-ho at least I can die knowing that Centy and his ilk are facing the same end as the rest of us.

So I guess every cloud and all that..."

I've got you figured out....you don't really care what happens so long as actual guillotines get actually used, like the good old days.

Keeping whipping up the populism.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I've got you figured out....you don't really care what happens so long as actual guillotines get actually used, like the good old days.

Keeping whipping up the populism. "

You could be right.

But maybe, rather than dismissing what i say as populism your time would be better spent working out why a former serviceman who is 100% loyal to his country and clearly politically educated and motivated feels that the political elite are now so in the pocket of big money and big money is now so corrupt that the only cure that will work is the eradication of the whole rotten bunch. There is a reason that it is said a fish rots from the head down, our political system is rotten!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"I've got you figured out....you don't really care what happens so long as actual guillotines get actually used, like the good old days.

Keeping whipping up the populism.

You could be right.

But maybe, rather than dismissing what i say as populism your time would be better spent working out why a former serviceman who is 100% loyal to his country and clearly politically educated and motivated feels that the political elite are now so in the pocket of big money and big money is now so corrupt that the only cure that will work is the eradication of the whole rotten bunch. There is a reason that it is said a fish rots from the head down, our political system is rotten!"

Also I notice you do not deny a single word I say about the reality of brexit or what is happening in the world, or challenge my assertion that we have reached a point where the only option open to force real change in the world is the violent overthrow and removal of our overlords!

Less than 100 people control more than 50% of the worlds wealth and are using that power (wealth is power) to destroy the world because they want it all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Brexit will be like clearing up a huge great pile of shit. I hope this country is ready for cleaning up shit. Come on, roll your sleeves up and prepare to get dirty."

I’m already on it, now working in recycling, the future...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've got you figured out....you don't really care what happens so long as actual guillotines get actually used, like the good old days.

Keeping whipping up the populism.

You could be right.

But maybe, rather than dismissing what i say as populism your time would be better spent working out why a former serviceman who is 100% loyal to his country and clearly politically educated and motivated feels that the political elite are now so in the pocket of big money and big money is now so corrupt that the only cure that will work is the eradication of the whole rotten bunch. There is a reason that it is said a fish rots from the head down, our political system is rotten!

Also I notice you do not deny a single word I say about the reality of brexit or what is happening in the world, or challenge my assertion that we have reached a point where the only option open to force real change in the world is the violent overthrow and removal of our overlords!

Less than 100 people control more than 50% of the worlds wealth and are using that power (wealth is power) to destroy the world because they want it all!"

Well just read in the London Economic that Credit Suisse are advising their wealthy clients to pull their investment out of the UK!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about "

Yeah, let's be like Mauritania!!! Economic power House!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Brexit will be like clearing up a huge great pile of shit. I hope this country is ready for cleaning up shit. Come on, roll your sleeves up and prepare to get dirty.

I’m already on it, now working in recycling, the future... "

What are you recycling?

1930s nationalist socialism?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !"

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation."

Economies of scale mean nothing to these people I'm afraid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation."

Your post may be more factually correct and accurate. But it’s not as catchy.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Brexit will be like clearing up a huge great pile of shit. I hope this country is ready for cleaning up shit. Come on, roll your sleeves up and prepare to get dirty.

I’m already on it, now working in recycling, the future...

What are you recycling?

1930s nationalist socialism?"

Not sure about that, maybe it's more recent material like David Cameron's £9 million quid taxpayer funded pro EU propaganda remain campaign leaflets.

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By *igsteve43Man
over a year ago

derby


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation."

Well the boe worst case scenario on a no deal was we lose 8% and we make up 16% of the eus gdp so though i think to say they need us more they lose more than we do and some countries depend on us

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything. "

...its ok, we are soon to be 7th richest & going down fast! Why the fuck are we letting this happen - no it isn’t democratic, people were lied to and it certainly is not a victimless crime!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation.

Well the boe worst case scenario on a no deal was we lose 8% and we make up 16% of the eus gdp so though i think to say they need us more they lose more than we do and some countries depend on us"

Those numbers smell funny. Iirc the eus gdp is five times ours. So this puts their exports at 10x ours. I thought the numbers were more comparable than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait! "

Outstanding schadenfreudism there! I suppose even if the worst happens I'll never be like you.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait!

Outstanding schadenfreudism there! I suppose even if the worst happens I'll never be like you.

"

Well put!

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex


"I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait! "

It will affect everyone....so suck it up

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Was waiting to see if centy would show some civility for once an apologise to the OP.....

I don’t know why I truely hold my breath

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait! "

You might lose your shit job too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation.

Well the boe worst case scenario on a no deal was we lose 8% and we make up 16% of the eus gdp so though i think to say they need us more they lose more than we do and some countries depend on us"

Still pedalling the same old crap! As your leader once said "we buy more off them..." & German car industry will put pressure on Merkel. Never happened because the 26 but more than 3x what we buy!

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Was waiting to see if centy would show some civility for once an apologise to the OP.....

I don’t know why I truely hold my breath "

I'm still waiting to see if you're going to apologise for all the ridiculous Project Fear scaremongering you've been doing about flights being grounded after Brexit and all the unnecessary worry you've caused some people Fabio. Thought you may have shown some civility for once.

I won't be holding my breath either.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"Brexit will be like clearing up a huge great pile of shit. I hope this country is ready for cleaning up shit. Come on, roll your sleeves up and prepare to get dirty."
don't talk shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was waiting to see if centy would show some civility for once an apologise to the OP.....

I don’t know why I truely hold my breath

I'm still waiting to see if you're going to apologise for all the ridiculous Project Fear scaremongering you've been doing about flights being grounded after Brexit and all the unnecessary worry you've caused some people Fabio. Thought you may have shown some civility for once.

I won't be holding my breath either. "

It would be lovely if you did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait!

It will affect everyone....so suck it up"

I really don’t care if it does, simples...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m really looking forward to it. It won’t affect me, but some snooty twats will lose their cash cow. Can’t wait! "

I think you mean “snooty twats will be come richer than their wildest dreams while the rest of us munch shit for the rest of our lives”.

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Can't wait as I'm sure we can move on and make even more money ...too much doom and gloom about"
money money money. Do you think that's what it's about. Dream on.

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Exactly the kind of thinking that got us into this mess."

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. "
do you realise the German GDP is more than all the commonwealth put together. That's just Germany. Think it's called dooooooomed. Anyway can't see it going ahead. That's my thoughts.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually i am really sad that the thread when away from what it was originally... which was the real life experience of what people will now have to go thru because of brexit.....

but the lack of even a shred of empathy from the likes of centy and peacehaven absolutely astounds me.....

you basically told the OP "stfu" and "tough, because I'll be okay and forget about everyone else"...

sometimes in the arguements we have over policy i think you forget that there are actual human beings involved... and that actions have consequences....

thats why i think you should apologise to the OP!

I wouldn't wish anyone losing their jobs and possibly going thru harder times than they need to on anyone!!!

when did people lose common decency and replace it with points scoring!!!!

the "well i am going to be alright and screw everyone" attitude of some people here really has to stop!!!!

that why people have been called out in this thread and basically been called "prize plums" (i am sure someone will report that as a gross insult)...

sometimes you don't have to defend your opinion in every single thread.... so how about walking past one or two, and by doing that making the world a little bit of a better place!

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. do you realise the German GDP is more than all the commonwealth put together. That's just Germany. Think it's called dooooooomed. Anyway can't see it going ahead. That's my thoughts. "

Except of course india and OZ combined are 4.3 thousand billion and Germany is 4.2.

But hey why let facts get in the way

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"actually i am really sad that the thread when away from what it was originally... which was the real life experience of what people will now have to go thru because of brexit.....

but the lack of even a shred of empathy from the likes of centy and peacehaven absolutely astounds me.....

you basically told the OP "stfu" and "tough, because I'll be okay and forget about everyone else"...

sometimes in the arguements we have over policy i think you forget that there are actual human beings involved... and that actions have consequences....

thats why i think you should apologise to the OP!

I wouldn't wish anyone losing their jobs and possibly going thru harder times than they need to on anyone!!!

when did people lose common decency and replace it with points scoring!!!!

the "well i am going to be alright and screw everyone" attitude of some people here really has to stop!!!!

that why people have been called out in this thread and basically been called "prize plums" (i am sure someone will report that as a gross insult)...

sometimes you don't have to defend your opinion in every single thread.... so how about walking past one or two, and by doing that making the world a little bit of a better place!

"

I dont think many "want" normal folk to suffer but for those who feel they have lost out on prosperity they feel they have little to lose( rightly or wrongly) from leaving the eu and why the hell should they worry if some do suffer, (I dont mean the OP in that context) those who have benefitted without caring about those who lost out perhaps should consider that view. It never fails to amaze me that lots of remainers seem to fear the loss of banking jobs yet in 2008 millions wanted the bankers taken out and shot due to their greed and fraud and it is still going on

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring. "

Ha, ha, ha. That's a laugh. The BREXITERS were totally unable to see, never mind take advantage of the many opportunities offered by being part of the largest single market in the world. When we leave and loose that market they'll be even less opportunities for them to see and take advantage of. And what fewer there are won't be taken by closed minded BREXITERS but will be taken by the same sort of open minded people as now. Closed minded people simply can't see opportunity when it's there, BREXIT or not, that won't change.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"I am sure we will be fine the eu needs us more then we need then !

How much of UK GDP is dependent on the EU27?

How much of the EU27 GDP is dependent on the UK?

When you have worked that out, you may wish to re-evaluate your calculation.

Economies mean nothing to these people I'm afraid."

Fixed it for you!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"actually i am really sad that the thread when away from what it was originally... which was the real life experience of what people will now have to go thru because of brexit.....

but the lack of even a shred of empathy from the likes of centy and peacehaven absolutely astounds me.....

you basically told the OP "stfu" and "tough, because I'll be okay and forget about everyone else"...

sometimes in the arguements we have over policy i think you forget that there are actual human beings involved... and that actions have consequences....

thats why i think you should apologise to the OP!

I wouldn't wish anyone losing their jobs and possibly going thru harder times than they need to on anyone!!!

when did people lose common decency and replace it with points scoring!!!!

the "well i am going to be alright and screw everyone" attitude of some people here really has to stop!!!!

that why people have been called out in this thread and basically been called "prize plums" (i am sure someone will report that as a gross insult)...

sometimes you don't have to defend your opinion in every single thread.... so how about walking past one or two, and by doing that making the world a little bit of a better place!

"

Remember that thread a while back about whether someones political views would affect whether you would want to shag them or not? Some of the people on here are a very good example of why I think sometimes their political views are of relevance. If someone has such distain for your fellow human beings, would we really want to shag them?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can think of one person on here who could do with being fucked repeatedly (preferably with something large and painful) until he learns not to be such an obnoxious arse but unfortunately i think either his skin would be too thick for him to notice or he mat actually take a perverse delight in it. I am sure we all know who I am referring to!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Sadly a lot of companies have been hedging their bets and moving production lines, head offices to an EU country ahead of Brexit.

Even Easyjet opened up a major hub abroad, just in case they need to move quickly due to a no deal brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sadly a lot of companies have been hedging their bets and moving production lines, head offices to an EU country ahead of Brexit.

Even Easyjet opened up a major hub abroad, just in case they need to move quickly due to a no deal brexit."
i hope sensible deals are put in place, and such no deal preparations are just a one off cost. I do fear there will be an opportunity cost drag, as people have been focused on such actions rather than developing their businesses. Not great given I think investments are trending downwards [citation needed]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've got you figured out....you don't really care what happens so long as actual guillotines get actually used, like the good old days.

Keeping whipping up the populism.

You could be right.

But maybe, rather than dismissing what i say as populism your time would be better spent working out why a former serviceman who is 100% loyal to his country and clearly politically educated and motivated feels that the political elite are now so in the pocket of big money and big money is now so corrupt that the only cure that will work is the eradication of the whole rotten bunch. There is a reason that it is said a fish rots from the head down, our political system is rotten!"

I've a bone to pick with you....you bang on about all-sorts of parallels with WW2 emerging and yet you ignore that it was the same style of populism you push that got hitler into power.

Wtf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. do you realise the German GDP is more than all the commonwealth put together. That's just Germany. Think it's called dooooooomed. Anyway can't see it going ahead. That's my thoughts.

Except of course india and OZ combined are 4.3 thousand billion and Germany is 4.2.

But hey why let facts get in the way"

I think the exact numbers depend on source but I can’t fault the commonwealth is bigger than Germany once you add Canada into your list. However once you do have India plus Canada plus Oz (c5.6tr) no other country has a gdp over half a trn. So Germany plus Spain is comparative to the commonwealth.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. do you realise the German GDP is more than all the commonwealth put together. That's just Germany. Think it's called dooooooomed. Anyway can't see it going ahead. That's my thoughts.

Except of course india and OZ combined are 4.3 thousand billion and Germany is 4.2.

But hey why let facts get in the way

I think the exact numbers depend on source but I can’t fault the commonwealth is bigger than Germany once you add Canada into your list. However once you do have India plus Canada plus Oz (c5.6tr) no other country has a gdp over half a trn. So Germany plus Spain is comparative to the commonwealth.

"

How much of Germany's wealth comes from trade with the UK though? We are one of their biggest customers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. do you realise the German GDP is more than all the commonwealth put together. That's just Germany. Think it's called dooooooomed. Anyway can't see it going ahead. That's my thoughts.

Except of course india and OZ combined are 4.3 thousand billion and Germany is 4.2.

But hey why let facts get in the way

I think the exact numbers depend on source but I can’t fault the commonwealth is bigger than Germany once you add Canada into your list. However once you do have India plus Canada plus Oz (c5.6tr) no other country has a gdp over half a trn. So Germany plus Spain is comparative to the commonwealth.

How much of Germany's wealth comes from trade with the UK though? We are one of their biggest customers. "

We import 75bn (ons) of the 4.2trn. So just shy of 2%. A bit more than us to them. But not by much.

Wonder why we are a bigger customer to Germany than we are Australia?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. do you realise the German GDP is more than all the commonwealth put together. That's just Germany. Think it's called dooooooomed. Anyway can't see it going ahead. That's my thoughts.

Except of course india and OZ combined are 4.3 thousand billion and Germany is 4.2.

But hey why let facts get in the way

I think the exact numbers depend on source but I can’t fault the commonwealth is bigger than Germany once you add Canada into your list. However once you do have India plus Canada plus Oz (c5.6tr) no other country has a gdp over half a trn. So Germany plus Spain is comparative to the commonwealth.

How much of Germany's wealth comes from trade with the UK though? We are one of their biggest customers. "

Christ you spend your whole time contradicting yourself in your vainglorious efforts to score points. You are a very stupid person (copyright JC)

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

A bad Brexit is not in the interests of the UK nor the EU.

But everything I have read and learned leads me to be believe it is the UK that will suffer more from barriers to trade, commerce etc.

The EU is loses one part of its market, worth about 8 per cent to the EU27 in terms of their exports.

The UK loses one part of its market, worth about 44 per cent to the UK in terms of our exports.

The UK also loses every extant trade agreement it currently enjoys with the rest of the world.

So whereas the EU27 will find new barriers appearing between their trade and just one country, the UK will find barriers appearing between its trade and every country in the world.

I know who can adjust easier to those impositions, and it's not the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whoever is going to be the biggest looser we will only find out in time if we end up with a managed deal no deal event

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. "
Germany has more gpd than the whole commonwealth put together. There is only so much sheep we can buy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Without sounding naive we are the 5th richest country in the world

full of entrapaneurs. Lawyers so on and so forth

We can sort everything and anything out .

May cause in convinience initially but we will sort everything.

Yes but you're talking to a bunch of remoaning pessimists here determined to wallow in their own self pity because they lost a vote.

Brexiters on the other hand though are optimists who will look to take advantage of the many new opportunities that Brexit will bring.

How's that Australian and New Zealand deal going?

EU rules prevent us from doing deals with those countries because we haven't left yet. We can only sign trade deals with those countries after we've left the EU. Both Australia and New Zealand have already indicated they want to sign free trade deals with the UK after we've left the EU, as have many other countries. Germany has more gpd than the whole commonwealth put together. There is only so much sheep we can buy. "

This is not quite true. India Oz and Canada top Germany. But outside of these there is very little gdp left...

Although I’m not sure if it’s fair to include Canada given Eu have a trade deal.

So maybe we should be talking about commonwealth countries we wouldn’t have a trade deal with under the Eu. In which case Germany just about beats these....

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I agree with this guy. Sums it all up. https://www.facebook.com/6622931938/posts/10156452959331939/.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree with this guy. Sums it all up. https://www.facebook.com/6622931938/posts/10156452959331939/."

Yeah he's on the money.

A bit of honesty from an MP...Brexit is nothing but lies.

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"I agree with this guy. Sums it all up. https://www.facebook.com/6622931938/posts/10156452959331939/.

Yeah he's on the money.

A bit of honesty from an MP...Brexit is nothing but lies."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I'll be out of a job. Not straight away but in the months afterward.

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Personally, I'll be out of a job. Not straight away but in the months afterward.

"
hang on there we ain't out yet. Fingers crossed

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"I agree with this guy. Sums it all up. https://www.facebook.com/6622931938/posts/10156452959331939/."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, I'll be out of a job. Not straight away but in the months afterward.

"

Howay man ye divunt na that. Nee body na's wats ganna happen.

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over a year ago

My employer is still recruiting new members of staff. Partly this is because there is a high turnover, but also because the cash and carry business is doing really well. I’m confident that I will still have my job whatever happens with BREXIT. Half of my colleagues are from overseas and none of them appear to be worried. Personally I hope we leave without a deal, and then we will all see new deals being struck, not just with the rest of the world, but also, I do believe, with the EU. We have a lot to offer as a nation, and that is not about to change...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Farmers have been going in about beef and lamb exports being hit by brexit so why are they exporting it when we are importing it from other countries?

Surely it’s cheaper to sell it here than spend money sending it miles away costing fuel time and the plannet with more pollution

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Farmers have been going in about beef and lamb exports being hit by brexit so why are they exporting it when we are importing it from other countries?

Surely it’s cheaper to sell it here than spend money sending it miles away costing fuel time and the plannet with more pollution "
You are now seeing the concept of the EU club we send stuff to them they send stuff to us all at a cost and we pay, most of the farmers deals and subsides are to keep the french farmers happy it wasnt that long ago they were burning our lamb on the motorways.They are not now as they are all doing very nicely while we are paying through the nose for meat.

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over a year ago


"My employer is still recruiting new members of staff. Partly this is because there is a high turnover, but also because the cash and carry business is doing really well. I’m confident that I will still have my job whatever happens with BREXIT. Half of my colleagues are from overseas and none of them appear to be worried. Personally I hope we leave without a deal, and then we will all see new deals being struck, not just with the rest of the world, but also, I do believe, with the EU. We have a lot to offer as a nation, and that is not about to change..."

Have you told them to fuck off back to their own country yet?

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