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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality "It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "Do you actually believe all that tosh? In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship - have you not noticed the complete clusterfuck being achieved at the moment! There is not a single piece of evidence that shows we are better off leaving. Hiding your head in the sand only ends up in getting buggered... | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy.
Do you actually believe all that tosh? In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship - have you not noticed the complete clusterfuck being achieved at the moment! There is not a single piece of evidence that shows we are better off leaving. Hiding your head in the sand only ends up in getting buggered..."He believes in Santa too  | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "Absolute cobblers if you believe that tosh | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "Okay show my the independent and and government papers which led a statistician to get that value. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "that money isn't going to come from any "bexit bonus"... that money will come from us playing extra taxes!!! so can we finally kill that fallacy once and for all please! also.... did you hear the health secretary admit today we are now the worlds largest buyer of fridges.... why????? because we are now having to stockpile medicines such as insulin as they need cold storage!!!! so yey!!!!.... i swear if one of you now screams "project fear!!!" i am going to use words that will get me a 48hr ban! | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha. "Not a clever idea to antagonise people with similar concerns yet a different view on how to resolve issues. You might just push enough away and really regret it a couple of years down the line. | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha. "And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then  | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Well said. Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality " | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "You don't half talk some crap. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "3-2-1.. Open your eyes.. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy.
that money isn't going to come from any "bexit bonus"... that money will come from us playing extra taxes!!! so can we finally kill that fallacy once and for all please!
also.... did you hear the health secretary admit today we are now the worlds largest buyer of fridges....
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because we are now having to stockpile medicines such as insulin as they need cold storage!!!!
so yey!!!!.... i swear if one of you now screams "project fear!!!" i am going to use words that will get me a 48hr ban!"Project Fear!!!!! | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy.
that money isn't going to come from any "bexit bonus"... that money will come from us playing extra taxes!!! so can we finally kill that fallacy once and for all please!
also.... did you hear the health secretary admit today we are now the worlds largest buyer of fridges....
why?????
because we are now having to stockpile medicines such as insulin as they need cold storage!!!!
so yey!!!!.... i swear if one of you now screams "project fear!!!" i am going to use words that will get me a 48hr ban!"PROJECT FEAR!!! Project fear!!! | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then "Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter. | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter. "You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016.. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "You remember I pointed out that money was already being wasted on Brexit to the tune of about 500m a week so it would have to come out of other taxes..... You tried to say other taxes like the Amazon tax would pay for it but it amounted to about 2% | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy.
You remember I pointed out that money was already being wasted on Brexit to the tune of about 500m a week so it would have to come out of other taxes.....
You tried to say other taxes like the Amazon tax would pay for it but it amounted to about 2%"Not only an online retail transaction tax, I said a range of areas and gave specific examples, but of course you already know that. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy.
You remember I pointed out that money was already being wasted on Brexit to the tune of about 500m a week so it would have to come out of other taxes.....
You tried to say other taxes like the Amazon tax would pay for it but it amounted to about 2%
Not only an online retail transaction tax, I said a range of areas and gave specific examples, but of course you already know that. "I think it was more vague than you remember ..anyway, so we are agreed that this 390m isn't actually a bonus from Brexit it's just another Tax. Also the number of EU nurses registering has sharply declined since the 2016....Another Brexit bonus | |||
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"and finally project fear because project reality... oh and centy, you know those Dover-Calais reports you were rubbishing as well in a another thread earlier.... you DO know there were written by the Department for Transport (remember when major leaver Dominic Rabb said the other week that even he didn't realise the scope of the Issues with the dover-calais crossing when he was brexit secretary.... that report!!) so are you saying that Rabb is wrong? after all... he is one of yours!!! also... the other report on the Dover-Calais crossing was written by Conservative run Kent County Council are they wrong as well?" Maybe you should take some time to listen to what the french are saying instead of going off on your usual bog standard scaremongering routine. Freight from the EU currently takes 2 minutes per vehicle to check and 20 minutes per vehicle from outside of the EU. Xavier Bertrand, head of the region covering Calais, denies his country would deliberately slow UK trade. He said less than 1% of UK lorries coming through Calais would face checks under a no deal scenario, in order to keep traffic flowing. He does not want to lose this trade to other ports in the Netherlands and elsewhere as that would hurt Calais. He knows we could divert traffic to other ports if needs be. Customs clearance is not the only reason for delays. We cope with French haulier strikes. Just in time deliveries can be hit by strikes, bad weather like heavy snow and flooding , traffic on busy days like bank holidays and other things that make customs delays look like small beer but we still cope. Put your project fear manual back in its box because it's way out of date. | |||
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"i guess pat has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him knitting on a plane or he's counting the losses he's made due to brexit catastrophically collapsing the stock market ... he's awfully quiet" Chill out, I'm sure we'll get great trade deals from New Zealand and Australia like those Leave guys said we would! | |||
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"and finally project fear because project reality... oh and centy, you know those Dover-Calais reports you were rubbishing as well in a another thread earlier.... you DO know there were written by the Department for Transport (remember when major leaver Dominic Rabb said the other week that even he didn't realise the scope of the Issues with the dover-calais crossing when he was brexit secretary.... that report!!) so are you saying that Rabb is wrong? after all... he is one of yours!!! also... the other report on the Dover-Calais crossing was written by Conservative run Kent County Council are they wrong as well? Maybe you should take some time to listen to what the french are saying instead of going off on your usual bog standard scaremongering routine. Freight from the EU currently takes 2 minutes per vehicle to check and 20 minutes per vehicle from outside of the EU. Xavier Bertrand, head of the region covering Calais, denies his country would deliberately slow UK trade. He said less than 1% of UK lorries coming through Calais would face checks under a no deal scenario, in order to keep traffic flowing. He does not want to lose this trade to other ports in the Netherlands and elsewhere as that would hurt Calais. He knows we could divert traffic to other ports if needs be. Customs clearance is not the only reason for delays. We cope with French haulier strikes. Just in time deliveries can be hit by strikes, bad weather like heavy snow and flooding , traffic on busy days like bank holidays and other things that make customs delays look like small beer but we still cope. Put your project fear manual back in its box because it's way out of date. " ...hmmm, maybe we should listen to the french and stay in the Eu!? | |||
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"i guess pat has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him knitting on a plane or he's counting the losses he's made due to brexit catastrophically collapsing the stock market ... he's awfully quiet Chill out, I'm sure we'll get great trade deals from New Zealand and Australia like those Leave guys said we would!" fuck them unless we get freedom of movement | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. " So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? " Would the government have promised £390 million extra per week for the NHS and made it government policy if it wasn't for the £350 million figure on the bus and Brexit winning the referendum? Yes or No? | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? Would the government have promised £390 million extra per week for the NHS and made it government policy if it wasn't for the £350 million figure on the bus and Brexit winning the referendum? Yes or No? " But you've admitted that money isn't coming from the money we would have sent to Europe... It's a bit like entering a competition to win a VW Polo, winning the car and then being told you have to pay £25,000 because the competition cost more than they thought to run! | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? Would the government have promised £390 million extra per week for the NHS and made it government policy if it wasn't for the £350 million figure on the bus and Brexit winning the referendum? Yes or No? But you've admitted that money isn't coming from the money we would have sent to Europe... It's a bit like entering a competition to win a VW Polo, winning the car and then being told you have to pay £25,000 because the competition cost more than they thought to run! " Giving a yes or no answer is beyond your capability then. Are you a politician? | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? Would the government have promised £390 million extra per week for the NHS and made it government policy if it wasn't for the £350 million figure on the bus and Brexit winning the referendum? Yes or No? But you've admitted that money isn't coming from the money we would have sent to Europe... It's a bit like entering a competition to win a VW Polo, winning the car and then being told you have to pay £25,000 because the competition cost more than they thought to run! Giving a yes or no answer is beyond your capability then. Are you a politician? "I'm pointing out that your point is stupid! It's celebrating a net loss as a victory but to quote fullfact "To mark the 70th birthday of the NHS in 2018 the Prime Minister has announced that funding for the NHS in England would be increased by £20.5 billion by 2023/24, or by an average of 3.4% per year." It was increased to celebrate a birthday....nothing to do with Brexit. | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? " No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? Would the government have promised £390 million extra per week for the NHS and made it government policy if it wasn't for the £350 million figure on the bus and Brexit winning the referendum? Yes or No? But you've admitted that money isn't coming from the money we would have sent to Europe... It's a bit like entering a competition to win a VW Polo, winning the car and then being told you have to pay £25,000 because the competition cost more than they thought to run! Giving a yes or no answer is beyond your capability then. Are you a politician?
I'm pointing out that your point is stupid! It's celebrating a net loss as a victory but to quote fullfact
"To mark the 70th birthday of the NHS in 2018 the Prime Minister has announced that funding for the NHS in England would be increased by £20.5 billion by 2023/24, or by an average of 3.4% per year."
It was increased to celebrate a birthday....nothing to do with Brexit.
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. " We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! " So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts! | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts! "I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen! | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!""The Treasury forecasts a continued growth in the UK economy after Brexit (maybe not as much growth compared to remain but continued growth non the less which means more money in treasury coffers for future budgets). " Your words 2 weeks ago! | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!"So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets. | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets.
You are going mad "I think he might be! I'm not sure what his point is? Do you? | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets.
You are going mad
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality "We are not going to benefit financially. Certainly not short to medium term. Long term isn't comparable. So, there must be something else. "Being in control/Taking back control" = "Sovereignty" + "Immigration control" Only immigration control is objectively measurable, but we've had 100% of non EU immigration and that has always been higher than from the EU | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets.
You are going mad
I think he might be! I'm not sure what his point is? Do you?
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets.
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets.
You are going mad
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy.
Do you actually believe all that tosh? In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship - have you not noticed the complete clusterfuck being achieved at the moment! There is not a single piece of evidence that shows we are better off leaving. Hiding your head in the sand only ends up in getting buggered..." | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? No, thats not what we agreed. Part of it will be a brexit bonus as explained to you on the other thread several weeks ago. We've already had this discussion. Part of it comes from savings made on not having to pay an annual EU membership fee anymore, the other money will come from other areas like a new online transaction fee tax which the Chancellor has already hinted at for online retailers such as Amazon, other money could come from cutting government budgets like the over inflated and bloated foreign aid budget. It was also pointed out to you the UK is forecast to continue growing after Brexit according to the Treasury (you remainers take Treasury forecasts as gospel don't you) so with continued growth that gives the Chancellor extra money to spend in future budgets. We've lost more than our membership fee in Brexit cost mate as I pointed out at the time So the major point is out! You admitted at the time growth will not be as good as it would have been....more loss! So...foreign aid then!!!! So you don't believe the Treasury forecasts about continued growth then? Flag one up here, a remainer who doesn't believe Treasury forecasts. So much for experts!
I said that you pointed out in a previous post that growth would not be as good as it would have been if we remain! Not that growth wouldn't happen!
So you do believe the Treasury forecasts that there will be continued growth then. Make your mind up. Continued growth means there will be more money available for the Chancellor to spend in future budgets.
You are going mad
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" In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship Mrs Maygabe has already stated she will put 3,500 troops on the streets if no-deal happens" No she hasn't. What she actually said was they will be put on standby if needed which is a different thing entirely. | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter. "There's part of me that thinks those with the long standing right to vote who never used it, probably shouldn't have been allowed to vote in such a big issue. Like muscles, don't use em' you lose them. | |||
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"It could have been handed to the NHS as part of the ‘Remain Bonus’, but instead it will be pissed up against the wall ‘planning’ (‘’ is deliberate) for no deal. How much more stupid and self defeating does this lunacy have to get before we all say enough!? Rescind Article 50 and lets get back to living in a normal country that does things with at least a semblance of normality
It's called democracy and the country voted Leave so that's what we'll do. Normal democratic countries enact democratic votes and honour the will of the people. You may want to live in a tin pot dictatorship that willfully ignores democratic votes but I don't. Also the NHS will be getting an extra £390 million per week after Brexit (so more than the £350 million on the side of the bus) which is now official government policy. "Hilarious. Will this extra ££ be delivered by unicorn too? | |||
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" In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship Mrs Maygabe has already stated she will put 3,500 troops on the streets if no-deal happens" That's really taking back control...no deal is better than a bad deal (but needs to be supported by troops) What kind of madness is it for a country to knowingly create a national crisis and to justify it by saying this is what the people voted for. | |||
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" In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship Mrs Maygabe has already stated she will put 3,500 troops on the streets if no-deal happens That's really taking back control...no deal is better than a bad deal (but needs to be supported by troops) What kind of madness is it for a country to knowingly create a national crisis and to justify it by saying this is what the people voted for." Troops have been used on british soil before during the firemen strikes. Never realised it was a national crisis. Troops were used at Lockerbie to assist police recover bodies, never realised it was a national crisis. Troops have been used to help in flooded areas , never realised it was a national crisis. Hope ive made my point. They are simply another tool available to governments to help out the country if required. | |||
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" In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship Mrs Maygabe has already stated she will put 3,500 troops on the streets if no-deal happens That's really taking back control...no deal is better than a bad deal (but needs to be supported by troops) What kind of madness is it for a country to knowingly create a national crisis and to justify it by saying this is what the people voted for. Troops have been used on british soil before during the firemen strikes. Never realised it was a national crisis. Troops were used at Lockerbie to assist police recover bodies, never realised it was a national crisis. Troops have been used to help in flooded areas , never realised it was a national crisis. Hope ive made my point. They are simply another tool available to governments to help out the country if required. " 13,500 troops were also used in the 2012 Olympics (not just 'on standby'). Yep....national crisis. | |||
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"I can't believe....well, yes I can believe the BREXIT dividend is still being touted as a tangible thing
It’s kinda funny. Is Centaur the “last man standing” in terms of blind belief in the “Brexit dividend”?
All the other Brexiteers have fallen back on things like “sovereignty”, “immigration”, “we have to respect the vote no matter how shit it gets” or my favourite “no one knows what will happen”.
You have to admire such staunch pig-headed ignorance and the absolute unwillingness to look facts in the face. "The monty python black knight of the forum. Both legs and arms have been chopped off! .Yet ''tis but a flesh wound." | |||
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"I can't believe....well, yes I can believe the BREXIT dividend is still being touted as a tangible thing
It’s kinda funny. Is Centaur the “last man standing” in terms of blind belief in the “Brexit dividend”?
All the other Brexiteers have fallen back on things like “sovereignty”, “immigration”, “we have to respect the vote no matter how shit it gets” or my favourite “no one knows what will happen”.
You have to admire such staunch pig-headed ignorance and the absolute unwillingness to look facts in the face.
The monty python black knight of the forum.
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip."We had a general election after two years and a Tory leadership election two years after that. You're going to have to help explain why those were OK if another referendum is not  | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip.
We had a general election after two years and a Tory leadership election two years after that.
You're going to have to help explain why those were OK if another referendum is not "So are you seriously saying we should have a referendum every year or so? nothing would ever get done this one hasnt been implemented yet and you want another one! | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip."The point made and referred to but missed by centy was not about who is eligible in each year.. Perhaps read it again.. | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip.
We had a general election after two years and a Tory leadership election two years after that.
You're going to have to help explain why those were OK if another referendum is not So are you seriously saying we should have a referendum every year or so? nothing would ever get done this one hasnt been implemented yet and you want another one! "No. I am asking you why it was alright to have a general election and a Tory leadership election with a two year gap but not a referendum? What are the circumstances that distinguish them? | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha. "The irony here is A proper democracy listens to it's minorities that's one of the points rather than a bullying majority stamping on minorities tsk | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip.
We had a general election after two years and a Tory leadership election two years after that.
You're going to have to help explain why those were OK if another referendum is not So are you seriously saying we should have a referendum every year or so? nothing would ever get done this one hasnt been implemented yet and you want another one!
No.
I am asking you why it was alright to have a general election and a Tory leadership election with a two year gap but not a referendum?
What are the circumstances that distinguish them?"i dont see what a tory leadership vote has to do with anything as its voted on by mps.The country has elections every five years or sooner if the government feels the need.These people are voted in on manifestos which the public choose which one they prefer these mps are voted on to enact the manifesto simple really.A referendum does not have party lines so no definite for or against and you have different factions on different sides hence a stalemate we have now.So to say we should have one every year or so i repeat nothing would ever get done. | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip.
We had a general election after two years and a Tory leadership election two years after that.
You're going to have to help explain why those were OK if another referendum is not So are you seriously saying we should have a referendum every year or so? nothing would ever get done this one hasnt been implemented yet and you want another one!
No.
I am asking you why it was alright to have a general election and a Tory leadership election with a two year gap but not a referendum?
What are the circumstances that distinguish them?i dont see what a tory leadership vote has to do with anything as its voted on by mps.The country has elections every five years or sooner if the government feels the need.These people are voted in on manifestos which the public choose which one they prefer these mps are voted on to enact the manifesto simple really.A referendum does not have party lines so no definite for or against and you have different factions on different sides hence a stalemate we have now.So to say we should have one every year or so i repeat nothing would ever get done. "And of course the referendum was only advisory, unlike an election! | |||
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"What part of , we all voted and it was a democratic decision to leave the EU is it your not getting. Lets vote on everything every day until the minority gets there way. Wait a minute for tgat to happen there must have been a new minority again. Lets vote again to soothe that minority. Get a grip and for feck sake get us out of Europe. And for those that want to stay , hahahahaha.
And of course we all didn’t vote+ of the population didn’t and they might justhave a different view now and over 1m people are able to vote now but were too young then
Those who couldn't be arsed to vote in 2016 really couldn't care less if we Remain or Leave, they obviously didn't think it was important enough to bother going to the polling station to put an X in a box. The turnout for the EU referendum was very high, over 70% turnout with many people voting who hadn't bothered to vote for anything else in years, and it's only the votes of those who turn out on the day that matter.
You totally missed the point being made that some who are eligible to take part now in such things were under the voting age in 2016..so do we have a vote every year then? As always new voters every year. Get a grip.
We had a general election after two years and a Tory leadership election two years after that.
You're going to have to help explain why those were OK if another referendum is not So are you seriously saying we should have a referendum every year or so? nothing would ever get done this one hasnt been implemented yet and you want another one!
No.
I am asking you why it was alright to have a general election and a Tory leadership election with a two year gap but not a referendum?
What are the circumstances that distinguish them?i dont see what a tory leadership vote has to do with anything as its voted on by mps.The country has elections every five years or sooner if the government feels the need.These people are voted in on manifestos which the public choose which one they prefer these mps are voted on to enact the manifesto simple really.A referendum does not have party lines so no definite for or against and you have different factions on different sides hence a stalemate we have now.So to say we should have one every year or so i repeat nothing would ever get done. "I didn't say that we should have a referendum every year or so. You did. What I am asking is why was it alright to call a general election after two years? Remember that it is only very recently that a fixed 5 year term was introduced yet it was decided to have one after only 2. Did something exceptional happen? Likewise, the Government is saying that another referendum is unacceptable yet as a party it is saying another vote for a new leader over the same timeframe is not. Why is that? What was the "manifesto" for Brexit? Who decides on if a "real" Brexit has been delivered? Do we have to wait until it's happened, whatever "it" is? Are the British people not clever enough toto use the information now available to decide if it looks like it will turn out badly and changed course or do they have to suffer first? Theresa May's current transition (remember the long term negotiating hasn't even started) delivers on the referendum question. Is that acceptable to you? Is it acceptable to anyone else? | |||
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"I guess CLCC has either been stabbed in the eye by someone sat next to him writing with a fountain pen in his academic classroom for experts or he's still counting the catastrophic losses he made betting his life savings on a remain win at the 2016 EU referendum......he's awfully quiet. So, we agreed that 390m isn't a Brexit bonus? Would the government have promised £390 million extra per week for the NHS and made it government policy if it wasn't for the £350 million figure on the bus and Brexit winning the referendum? Yes or No? But you've admitted that money isn't coming from the money we would have sent to Europe... It's a bit like entering a competition to win a VW Polo, winning the car and then being told you have to pay £25,000 because the competition cost more than they thought to run! Giving a yes or no answer is beyond your capability then. Are you a politician?
I'm pointing out that your point is stupid! It's celebrating a net loss as a victory but to quote fullfact
"To mark the 70th birthday of the NHS in 2018 the Prime Minister has announced that funding for the NHS in England would be increased by £20.5 billion by 2023/24, or by an average of 3.4% per year."
It was increased to celebrate a birthday....nothing to do with Brexit.
The fact is that extra £390 million per week for the NHS would never have been pledged by the government if it wasn't for Brexit and the £350 million figure on the side of the bus. "So you are saying that the govt could just have given an extra £390M to the NHS anyway? We didn’t need to waste money on Brexit. Maybe they could have given even more if we were not paying for this clusterfuck too? Maybe our government could have spent the past two years actually dealing with our own problems rather than shelving everything to work on Brexit? -Matt | |||
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" In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship Mrs Maygabe has already stated she will put 3,500 troops on the streets if no-deal happens That's really taking back control...no deal is better than a bad deal (but needs to be supported by troops) What kind of madness is it for a country to knowingly create a national crisis and to justify it by saying this is what the people voted for. Troops have been used on british soil before during the firemen strikes. Never realised it was a national crisis. Troops were used at Lockerbie to assist police recover bodies, never realised it was a national crisis. Troops have been used to help in flooded areas , never realised it was a national crisis. Hope ive made my point. They are simply another tool available to governments to help out the country if required. " Oh that's ok then. Nothing to see here, only our governe to creating a shambles which can only be solved by making sure troops are handy to sort out tier own fuck ups | |||
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" In broken brexit britain we are much more likely to end up being run by a tin pot dictatorship Mrs Maygabe has already stated she will put 3,500 troops on the streets if no-deal happens That's really taking back control...no deal is better than a bad deal (but needs to be supported by troops) What kind of madness is it for a country to knowingly create a national crisis and to justify it by saying this is what the people voted for. Troops have been used on british soil before during the firemen strikes. Never realised it was a national crisis. Troops were used at Lockerbie to assist police recover bodies, never realised it was a national crisis. Troops have been used to help in flooded areas , never realised it was a national crisis. Hope ive made my point. They are simply another tool available to governments to help out the country if required. 13,500 troops were also used in the 2012 Olympics (not just 'on standby'). Yep....national crisis." Well this fiasco is also a spectacle I suppose. | |||
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"In basic math terms it seems to me that we will have spent many millions more trying to extricate ourselves from the EU than we we are likely to profit from by our independence so its a nett loss to the country for the foreseeable future. The well known fantasist or should that be zealot who spends so much time posting his misanthropic points of view on here has never been able or willing to give any cost benefit analysis to Brexit which makes sense to normal people. I am glad we can all still laugh at his evasive justification but I really do wonder if he should be on medication? Still I suppose with all that spare money we will have sloshing around after no deal then the nhs will at last have enough resources to help him out. "irony being that if he were being treated somewhere down the line he is likely to be treated by an EU citizen.... be that a GP, or a referred specialist, or a radiographer, or a doctor.... or the nurses, ect ect ect........ | |||
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"In basic math terms it seems to me that we will have spent many millions more trying to extricate ourselves from the EU than we we are likely to profit from by our independence so its a nett loss to the country for the foreseeable future. The well known fantasist or should that be zealot who spends so much time posting his misanthropic points of view on here has never been able or willing to give any cost benefit analysis to Brexit which makes sense to normal people. I am glad we can all still laugh at his evasive justification but I really do wonder if he should be on medication? Still I suppose with all that spare money we will have sloshing around after no deal then the nhs will at last have enough resources to help him out. " | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. " We could of thown anyone not getting a job out after 3 months under article 7. Our government just never did. Mainly because EU imigrants are bet contributes. | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. We could of thown anyone not getting a job out after 3 months under article 7. Our government just never did. Mainly because EU imigrants are bet contributes." Yes but who knew? Why wasn't anything said in the debates in the referendum? Reason - both Labour & Tory governments didn't act on it - blame the EU. | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. " Then you voted on a non-existent state of affairs. I know The Sun and The Daily Mail liked to push these stories, but just a 10 minute google search debunks it. Immigration drives growth. There are no 'acceptance quotas'. The immigrant economy was a net contributor. And no studies have ever been able to show a link between immigration and low salaries (as per a very interesting discussion on Radio 4 earlier in the week from a university professor who has been making these studies). | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. " Just plain ignorance then. Again, more evidence why we should never have had a referendum in the first place. Just look at the stupid shit people believe. | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. Then you voted on a non-existent state of affairs. I know The Sun and The Daily Mail liked to push these stories, but just a 10 minute google search debunks it. Immigration drives growth. There are no 'acceptance quotas'. The immigrant economy was a net contributor. And no studies have ever been able to show a link between immigration and low salaries (as per a very interesting discussion on Radio 4 earlier in the week from a university professor who has been making these studies)." You're right about there being no acceptance quotas because free movement of people from the EU is unlimited, there is no cut off point for it and that is one of the main problems with it. We should be able to set a cap on numbers coming in if we so wish to do so but we can't under EU rules. You can't set a cap under EU free movement rules. On immigrants being net contributors you're wrong about that. Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK have done studies which show migration is either a neutral or a drain on the UK economy. They have also done studies which show uncontrolled immigration does have a negative suppressive effect on wages. You can't have looked very hard on Google when you did your 10 minute search. | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. Then you voted on a non-existent state of affairs. I know The Sun and The Daily Mail liked to push these stories, but just a 10 minute google search debunks it. Immigration drives growth. There are no 'acceptance quotas'. The immigrant economy was a net contributor. And no studies have ever been able to show a link between immigration and low salaries (as per a very interesting discussion on Radio 4 earlier in the week from a university professor who has been making these studies). You're right about there being no acceptance quotas because free movement of people from the EU is unlimited, there is no cut off point for it and that is one of the main problems with it. We should be able to set a cap on numbers coming in if we so wish to do so but we can't under EU rules. You can't set a cap under EU free movement rules. On immigrants being net contributors you're wrong about that. Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK have done studies which show migration is either a neutral or a drain on the UK economy. They have also done studies which show uncontrolled immigration does have a negative suppressive effect on wages. You can't have looked very hard on Google when you did your 10 minute search. " Migration Watch, the right wing pressure group!? It only took 10 seconds of googlesearch to see that... is it possible they made a hypothesis and fitted ‘facts’ around it? | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. Then you voted on a non-existent state of affairs. I know The Sun and The Daily Mail liked to push these stories, but just a 10 minute google search debunks it. Immigration drives growth. There are no 'acceptance quotas'. The immigrant economy was a net contributor. And no studies have ever been able to show a link between immigration and low salaries (as per a very interesting discussion on Radio 4 earlier in the week from a university professor who has been making these studies). You're right about there being no acceptance quotas because free movement of people from the EU is unlimited, there is no cut off point for it and that is one of the main problems with it. We should be able to set a cap on numbers coming in if we so wish to do so but we can't under EU rules. You can't set a cap under EU free movement rules. On immigrants being net contributors you're wrong about that. Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK have done studies which show migration is either a neutral or a drain on the UK economy. They have also done studies which show uncontrolled immigration does have a negative suppressive effect on wages. You can't have looked very hard on Google when you did your 10 minute search. " Centy, as you full well know, our government HAD the ability to limit the number of immigrants coming in from the EU from 2004 but chose not to. Pretty much every other EU country chose to use those powers. Our government decided not to. We also had full control of immigrants from RoW, but again our government did not or could not bring those down despite having full powers to do so. -Matt | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. Then you voted on a non-existent state of affairs. I know The Sun and The Daily Mail liked to push these stories, but just a 10 minute google search debunks it. Immigration drives growth. There are no 'acceptance quotas'. The immigrant economy was a net contributor. And no studies have ever been able to show a link between immigration and low salaries (as per a very interesting discussion on Radio 4 earlier in the week from a university professor who has been making these studies). You're right about there being no acceptance quotas because free movement of people from the EU is unlimited, there is no cut off point for it and that is one of the main problems with it. We should be able to set a cap on numbers coming in if we so wish to do so but we can't under EU rules. You can't set a cap under EU free movement rules. On immigrants being net contributors you're wrong about that. Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK have done studies which show migration is either a neutral or a drain on the UK economy. They have also done studies which show uncontrolled immigration does have a negative suppressive effect on wages. You can't have looked very hard on Google when you did your 10 minute search. Migration Watch, the right wing pressure group!? It only took 10 seconds of googlesearch to see that... is it possible they made a hypothesis and fitted ‘facts’ around it? " Surely he’s not just posting some emotive racist claptrap dressed up as “facts”? I cant believe that of Centy | |||
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. Then you voted on a non-existent state of affairs. I know The Sun and The Daily Mail liked to push these stories, but just a 10 minute google search debunks it. Immigration drives growth. There are no 'acceptance quotas'. The immigrant economy was a net contributor. And no studies have ever been able to show a link between immigration and low salaries (as per a very interesting discussion on Radio 4 earlier in the week from a university professor who has been making these studies). You're right about there being no acceptance quotas because free movement of people from the EU is unlimited, there is no cut off point for it and that is one of the main problems with it. We should be able to set a cap on numbers coming in if we so wish to do so but we can't under EU rules. You can't set a cap under EU free movement rules. On immigrants being net contributors you're wrong about that. Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK have done studies which show migration is either a neutral or a drain on the UK economy. They have also done studies which show uncontrolled immigration does have a negative suppressive effect on wages. You can't have looked very hard on Google when you did your 10 minute search. " Why is Migration Watch registered as a limited company? Is it so that it doesn't have to reveal its sources of funding? Never answered that question have you Centaur? Amongst countless other direct questions which you repeatedly run away from 
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"Lots of talk about money better or worse off. The reality of Brexit is the fact it was to close our borders from the amount of immigrants and refugees and all the other people the eu said we had to allow in as part of our quota. Our wages are down because if this and the government done nothing to stop it. If you ask most people why they voted to leave that will be the first and foremost reason. Not because we are racist or any other reason but our country was being bled dry by people abusing our system. " Leave project fear. A nasty fear and resentment of other people. From Fullfact, but they have experts and use data so probably shouldn't be trusted
"EU citizens with jobs have similar access to the benefits as UK citizens. For jobseekers or people not working, the rules for determining eligibility can be complex and vary depending on the type of benefit in question.
EU law does not allow member states to impose on EEA citizens the same restrictions as the UK currently operates for non-EEA nationals. Eligibility criteria for EEA citizens are quite complex and depend on a range of factors such as whether they are, or have been, in "genuine and effective work" or have a "genuine chance" of being hired.
An EEA citizen who arrives without a job and is still looking for work cannot receive means-tested jobseekers' allowance, child tax credit or child benefit within the first three months, under new regulations that came into force during 2014. These jobseekers must also pass the "habitual residence test" in order to claim. This test considers various factors including the measures they have taken to establish themselves in the UK and find work here.
An EEA citizen who moves to the UK and is determined to be a "worker" is immediately eligible for in-work benefits like tax credits and housing benefit. However, their work must be considered "genuine and effective".
Foreign-born people are less likely to be receiving key DWP out-of-work benefits than the UK born.
In February 2014, 7.7% of working-age individuals receiving 'key out-of-work benefits' were non-UK nationals at the time that they registered for a national insurance number (NiNo). The largest categories were jobseekers' allowance and incapacity benefits. The DWP figures do not include housing benefit, which is paid to working people as well as those out of work.
To determine whether migrants are over- or under-represented among benefits recipients, we can compare the DWP statistics to the share of migrants in the working-age population as a whole. We follow the approach used by the Migration Advisory Committee and compare the DWP statistics to the foreign-born population in the Labour Force Survey.
This comparison is only approximate, because migrants are counted slightly differently in the two datasets. The LFS measure includes all foreign-born people, including both noncitizens and naturalised citizens. The DWP statistics include both noncitizens and naturalised citizens who registered for a NiNo before they naturalised; people who naturalised after registering will not be counted.
People born outside of the UK (including—like the DWP data—those who subsequently became citizens) made up 16.2% of the working-age population in the first three months of 2014, according to Migration Observatory analysis of the Labour Force Survey. This suggests that the foreign born are underrepresented among out-of-work benefits recipients.
Both EU and non-EU migrants are underrepresented among the key out-of-work benefits recipients when compared to the share of the population born abroad. Claimants from new EU member states have increased in recent years but remain a small share of the total, rising from 0.5% of claimants in February 2011 to 1.3% in February 2014." | |||
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" Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK " "Independent bodies like" Like who Centy, you keep on banging the same old knackered drum saying "independent bodies" .... we all know the one you keep quoting is not independent so as you always say "bodies" which other bodies are they which you refer to ? | |||
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" Independent bodies like Migrationwatch UK "Independent bodies like" Like who Centy, you keep on banging the same old knackered drum saying "independent bodies" .... we all know the one you keep quoting is not independent so as you always say "bodies" which other bodies are they which you refer to ?" I'll have a guess... BNP ? | |||
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"Also if immigrants had not found work after 3 months they could be told to leave. The fact this hasn't happened is down to a UK government not the EU." And how do you propose they did that? only have to watch daytime tv and they have enough trouble finding the law breakers let alone all the rest. | |||
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"It takes between 6 and 18 months to train a customs clerk, if we crash out without a brexit deal we will need around 700 customs clerks in Dover alone (Dover has 35 today) and the government are just releasing £2 million of this money to set up training of them today, 101 days before we crash out without a deal. Remember the Maybot saying "No deal is better than a bad deal" 2 years ago, and that her government were preparing for all eventualities. Anyone spot a disconnect between this governments words and actions?" Crap.....sorry. There are now 127 dealing with international trade and those dealing with intra community stuff will e diverted after we leave. Where do you get 35 from? | |||
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