FabSwingers.com forum: Britain can stay in the eu.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

This just in from the eu that they can stay in without the 27 countries agreeing, they said it is now up to the people, whats your view? I reckon they shoud take it, it is the best outcome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This just in from the eu that they can stay in without the 27 countries agreeing, they said it is now up to the people, whats your view? I reckon they shoud take it, it is the best outcome

Very interesting - and more importantly with existing terms! I bet it's not gone down well with some people!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This just in from the eu that they can stay in without the 27 countries agreeing, they said it is now up to the people, whats your view? I reckon they shoud take it, it is the best outcome

Very interesting - and more importantly with existing terms! I bet it's not gone down well with some people! "
Yes it is, they are talking about it on sky and there is now a overwealming majority for staying in the eu if there is a referendum, it is good with legal clarity which now means may cant blame the eu

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

'no deal' is now off the table unless the party of government choose to be particularly pernicious and go down that route out of spite ... if that happens they will not be able to apportion any blame whatsoever onto others ... mrs Maygabe has caused the torys hands to be well and truly tied to the spectre of un-electability

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least it's one thing to do with Brexit that has clarity

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

One of the main complaints that Brexiteers repeatedly complain about is the the European Commission is not a directly elected.

It’s not ment to be. There role is to propose legislation, implement decisions and uphold EU treaties.

They are appointed by the European Council and confirmed by the European Parliament whose members we vote for

In that way thay can retain their independence and not be subjected to the whims of party politics as their role is to represent the Interests of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.

Representing home state is what elected MEP’s and Council of Ministers is for....

An analogy would be the UK government appointing Keith Williams to the Chairman of the Rail review. The voters did not elect him we elected the Government.

His findings will either be adopted and passed in to law or not depending on votes in the House of Commons and Lords.

We don’t clamour for government advisers to be elected....

Discuss......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One of the main complaints that Brexiteers repeatedly complain about is the the European Commission is not a directly elected.

It’s not ment to be. There role is to propose legislation, implement decisions and uphold EU treaties.

They are appointed by the European Council and confirmed by the European Parliament whose members we vote for

In that way thay can retain their independence and not be subjected to the whims of party politics as their role is to represent the Interests of the EU as a whole rather than their home state.

Representing home state is what elected MEP’s and Council of Ministers is for....

An analogy would be the UK government appointing Keith Williams to the Chairman of the Rail review. The voters did not elect him we elected the Government.

His findings will either be adopted and passed in to law or not depending on votes in the House of Commons and Lords.

We don’t clamour for government advisers to be elected....

Discuss......"

I think your flogging a dead horse here, but i agree with your statement!

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"At least it's one thing to do with Brexit that has clarity

And does defuse some the "it's too late now" arguments...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At least it's one thing to do with Brexit that has clarity

And does defuse some the "it's too late now" arguments..."

And it's yet again a ECJ ruling that's gone in the UK's favour too

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

The whole Brexit is a quite entertaining comedy drama - next act is on tomorrow - simpy reversing Art 50 would be a quite abrupt curtain fall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole Brexit is a quite entertaining comedy drama - next act is on tomorrow - simpy reversing Art 50 would be a quite abrupt curtain fall.

Do you think that will happen?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

This could be a blessing in disguise for the government. The way is now clear for revoking brexit. Hence the hard brexiteers may well feel they had better vote for May's deal or they won't get brexit at all.

I still think she will lose though...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can take their permission, shine it up real nice, turn it sideways and stick it up their fuckng arses. We voted to leave...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This could be a blessing in disguise for the government. The way is now clear for revoking brexit. Hence the hard brexiteers may well feel they had better vote for May's deal or they won't get brexit at all.

I still think she will lose though... "

Oh you could be right there - hadn't thought of that. I think it will be closer than we think!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so the upshot is that is now possible for brexit to just be halted immediately without the need for an expensive second referendum or any further costly debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Classic carrot dangling by a desperate EU.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Vote delayed now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Classic carrot dangling by a desperate EU.

You do know the EU's stance on this don't you ?

You do know the EJC ruling has gone against the Eu' prefered decision ?

I don't think you actually do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I still think she will lose though... "
That is right and I reckon she will lose too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So we turn around and stay in the EU just because it is difficult to get out of? Pathetic really

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"So we turn around and stay in the EU just because it is difficult to get out of? Pathetic really"
its not out of any kindness now is it .they are desperate for us to stay .its too late .it's been announced that Tony Blair is the chief instigator in us staying surely that's enough for anyone to want out once and for all

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

This is the guy who won't divulge where all his money has come from since his days as PM . somewhere in the EU perhaps

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to.

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Oakhill

I will have a fuck tonight, to celebrate staying in the eu. and the building of more houses for the migrants. We should reward the globalists with tax cuts. I don't mind paying more for my food and fuel to cover the cost to the country. Everything should be hunky dory then. I can just sit back and watch, the return of London's burning to the T.V.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to. "
the trouble is The current government doesn’t decide ... its parliament ... and BoJo is (I think) voting against the current government ... which also puts them at risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I will have a fuck tonight, to celebrate staying in the eu. and the building of more houses for the migrants. We should reward the globalists with tax cuts. I don't mind paying more for my food and fuel to cover the cost to the country. Everything should be hunky dory then. I can just sit back and watch, the return of London's burning to the T.V.

The irony is brexit is about leaving a large set of FTAs ... and we were also being touted as being the Singapore of the west.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to. "

Soames is against Brexit in case anyone was unaware.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to.

Soames is against Brexit in case anyone was unaware."

I have put a bomb strapped to my chest and regardless of what anyone says I am triggering it because I have been promised paradise...

Anyone spot the not so subtle simile?

Our decision is made, we had the a

party and we have 76 virgins waiting for us...

The lack of logic and total faith in nothing is exactly the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"'no deal' is now off the table unless the party of government choose to be particularly pernicious and go down that route out of spite ... if that happens they will not be able to apportion any blame whatsoever onto others ... mrs Maygabe has caused the torys hands to be well and truly tied to the spectre of un-electability"

And yet, from what I've seen reported, the government is stepping up it's preparations for no deal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And yet, from what I've seen reported, the government is stepping up it's preparations for no deal"

how did you enter this parallel universe that you occupy?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The European Court of Justice asserts the sovereignty of member states over the EU.

I thought the Brexiteers would have been pleased by this ruling.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to.

Soames is against Brexit in case anyone was unaware."

Soames supported remain during the referendum campaign in 2016. He said today on BBC radio 2 that he respects the result of the referendum and now accepts we must leave the EU.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

And yet, from what I've seen reported, the government is stepping up it's preparations for no deal"

Theresa May said about an hour ago while speaking in the House of Commons that No Deal preparations are being increased.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"The European Court of Justice asserts the sovereignty of member states over the EU.

I thought the Brexiteers would have been pleased by this ruling.

This ruling suits the remainers and the EU's own agenda and no one else's, as they have been very open about saying they want to keep us in the EU.

This ruling has also been fast tracked by the EU to take much less than half the time any other ruling would normally take. Another case of the EU bending the rules when it suits.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"The European Court of Justice asserts the sovereignty of member states over the EU.

I thought the Brexiteers would have been pleased by this ruling.

This ruling suits the remainers and the EU's own agenda and no one else's, as they have been very open about saying they want to keep us in the EU.

This ruling has also been fast tracked by the EU to take much less than half the time any other ruling would normally take. Another case of the EU bending the rules when it suits. "

It's normal legal practise to fast-track legal decisions when there is a time-sensitive matter.

It happens in our independent and sovereign legal system all the time.

Alternatively it's a huge conspiracy

The ECJ is an independent court just like the UK Supreme Court...oh, wait, they're enemies of the people and not to be trusted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The European Court of Justice asserts the sovereignty of member states over the EU.

I thought the Brexiteers would have been pleased by this ruling.

This ruling suits the remainers and the EU's own agenda and no one else's, as they have been very open about saying they want to keep us in the EU.

This ruling has also been fast tracked by the EU to take much less than half the time any other ruling would normally take. Another case of the EU bending the rules when it suits. "
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Weren’t you saying the other day the EU didn’t want this because, Poland ?

And I do like how accelerating a decision that needs to be made quickly given we’ve time boxed them in is “bending their rules”. What are their rules on hearing cases ?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"The European Court of Justice asserts the sovereignty of member states over the EU.

I thought the Brexiteers would have been pleased by this ruling.

This ruling suits the remainers and the EU's own agenda and no one else's, as they have been very open about saying they want to keep us in the EU.

This ruling has also been fast tracked by the EU to take much less than half the time any other ruling would normally take. Another case of the EU bending the rules when it suits. "

Do you just make this stuff up?

The court is independent of the EU.

The EU did not want this ruling and argued against it. As did the UK Government.

Just as courts here fast-track cases where currency is pressing, so does the ECJ.

It is what courts do when clarity in law is required.

Yes, it may be academic. But it removes one uncertainty from a debate paralysed by uncertainty.

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By *bandjam91Couple
over a year ago

London

"Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to. "

Ha, the fact you still believe what they tell you is breathtaking.

Also, you do realise the Government could easily change don't you? And that is also a different Government than we had during the referendum itself?

No, probably not.

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

"The whole Brexit is a quite entertaining comedy drama - next act is on tomorrow - simpy reversing Art 50 would be a quite abrupt curtain fall.

Do you think that will happen? "

I've no idea, I'm no Shakespeare but I will watch it to the very end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Winston Churchill's grandson and Tory MP Nicolas Soames called the EU ruling irrelevant earlier today as the UK government has no intention of withdrawing article 50 even if we are allowed to.

Soames is against Brexit in case anyone was unaware.

Soames supported remain during the referendum campaign in 2016. He said today on BBC radio 2 that he respects the result of the referendum and now accepts we must leave the EU. "

Come-on you really think he's changed his mind? He's just trying to back the lesser of 2 evils at this moment.

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