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By *oo hot OP   Couple
over a year ago

North West

Looking at the potential chaos that will be descending on Westminster in the coming weeks it seems incredible to think that all of this could so easily have been avoided in just a few simple steps.

1) Make the Brexit process non-partisan. The U.K. Govt should have appointed a cross party Negotiating team so as to reflect the fact that people who voted for Brexit were from all different parties.

2) No red lines made in statements. On the contrary - the optimal negotiating position would have been to say that the U.K. would be ruling nothing out, and ruling nothing in, until such time as the cross party committee had conducted a full economic evaluation of all potential outcomes.

3) Not evoke Article 50 until the U.K. had a clear plan and a means of achieving that plan.

4) Recognise the actual realities of life that the EU is a bigger economy than the U.K. and therefore any negotiated outcome will be in their favour - not because they are bullies or because they are being unreasonable. It is because they are the bigger partner. That would have put the U.K. in the right mindset for when it comes to negotiating with China, India and the United States in the future.

5) Accept that there will be a cost to Brexit and start to plan and execute the plan for massive civil service recruitment in order to replace the Agencies that we would be leaving - CAA, Customs, DEFRA, energy etc etc. Taxes would need to be increased, but if that is to be the price of Brexit - then it should be told honestly to the public.

The fact that the Conservative Govt and in particular Theresa May did none of the above and made the Brexit fight all about internal politics and not the country is the reason that I will probably never ever vote again unless it is to reform politics in this country.

Leavers and Remainers have somethingnin common. Both sides feel betrayed by a Prime Minister who has fought the Brexit battle for internal Conservative Party politics - that is shameful.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

20/20 vision.

I’m gonna get some when i win the lottery.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Looking at the potential chaos that will be descending on Westminster in the coming weeks it seems incredible to think that all of this could so easily have been avoided in just a few simple steps.

1) Make the Brexit process non-partisan. The U.K. Govt should have appointed a cross party Negotiating team so as to reflect the fact that people who voted for Brexit were from all different parties.

2) No red lines made in statements. On the contrary - the optimal negotiating position would have been to say that the U.K. would be ruling nothing out, and ruling nothing in, until such time as the cross party committee had conducted a full economic evaluation of all potential outcomes.

3) Not evoke Article 50 until the U.K. had a clear plan and a means of achieving that plan.

4) Recognise the actual realities of life that the EU is a bigger economy than the U.K. and therefore any negotiated outcome will be in their favour - not because they are bullies or because they are being unreasonable. It is because they are the bigger partner. That would have put the U.K. in the right mindset for when it comes to negotiating with China, India and the United States in the future.

5) Accept that there will be a cost to Brexit and start to plan and execute the plan for massive civil service recruitment in order to replace the Agencies that we would be leaving - CAA, Customs, DEFRA, energy etc etc. Taxes would need to be increased, but if that is to be the price of Brexit - then it should be told honestly to the public.

The fact that the Conservative Govt and in particular Theresa May did none of the above and made the Brexit fight all about internal politics and not the country is the reason that I will probably never ever vote again unless it is to reform politics in this country.

Leavers and Remainers have somethingnin common. Both sides feel betrayed by a Prime Minister who has fought the Brexit battle for internal Conservative Party politics - that is shameful."

This probably would have been a better way forward but I honestly don't think it would have succeeded. The problem is is that the strategy above would only have worked with reasonable people and the hard line Europhobe BREXITERS are not reasonable people. It wouldn't have mattered what deal Cameron had got before the referendum or what deal May gets/got now they would oppose it. They've spent so much time reading stuff on "Euro super state" conspiracy sites that they actually believe the rubbish on there and believe the EU is an evil institution that must be destroyed at whatever price, even if it is destruction of the UK itself. If it has 'eur' anywhere in its name or description it must be opposed, stopped and destroyed. You can convince or compromise with these sort of people you just have to defeat them or lose and live with inevitable consequences.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Generally agree, including taking decisions before submitting article 50 and having a plan. Much of the 2 years has been about the UK deciding what it wants, such as upon Northern Ireland - wasted time.

The reason many of these things didn't happen is because brexit was just a foil for the conservative party to hang on to power and stay intact in some way. It's seriously alarming that people will now vote for such charlatans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Generally agree, including taking decisions before submitting article 50 and having a plan. Much of the 2 years has been about the UK deciding what it wants, such as upon Northern Ireland - wasted time.

The reason many of these things didn't happen is because brexit was just a foil for the conservative party to hang on to power and stay intact in some way. It's seriously alarming that people will now vote for such charlatans "

The extreme right were baying for blood! Forced the issue so May pushed button. She would have been better saying -"look you won but there is no plan for leaving so lets get a plan first".

So a small - vocal verciferous group dictated a country's path - and look what we have got! Same will happen after 29/3. Just wait until they shelves in the supermarket are half empty - that's when the shit will it the fan! But we all knew what we voted for, we wanted more austerity, we wanted to shed a few jobs - but we are sovereign and a lot poorer! Yeah!

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

But foresight is a lot more useful OP!

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