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"If you were PM, what would you improve on the deal and, more crucially, how would you convince the Eu to accept the change ?" I suspect it's this deal or no deal. The EU are having a few local difficulties with the Spanish over Gib and the french over fishing. They sure as hell dont want to renegotiate something a few days after concluding the talks. There may be a few tweaks still available, but it's pretty much take it or leave it time | |||
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"If you were PM, what would you improve on the deal and, more crucially, how would you convince the Eu to accept the change ? I suspect it's this deal or no deal. The EU are having a few local difficulties with the Spanish over Gib and the french over fishing. They sure as hell dont want to renegotiate something a few days after concluding the talks. There may be a few tweaks still available, but it's pretty much take it or leave it time" Suggest all those making their mouth go, stand up and be counted. #whereisthe48 | |||
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"If you were PM, what would you improve on the deal and, more crucially, how would you convince the Eu to accept the change ? I suspect it's this deal or no deal. The EU are having a few local difficulties with the Spanish over Gib and the french over fishing. They sure as hell dont want to renegotiate something a few days after concluding the talks. There may be a few tweaks still available, but it's pretty much take it or leave it time Suggest all those making their mouth go, stand up and be counted. #whereisthe48 " i agree time is running out. But even putting that to one side, I’m not clear what the “better” deal labour, JRM, farage et al think they could broker. Despite the United front, the EU know they have to keep Germany, ireland and Spain etc happy with what they put forward. | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. " There is even less chance of the UK Parliament approving that. | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. There is even less chance of the UK Parliament approving that." The problem is Parliament, like the country has a variety of views with no one really sure what they want. So I would launch the nuclear option and see what happened. | |||
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"And if Parliament rejects your approach but approves the compromise, you are going back to Brussels with your tail between your legs. Praise be to Gina Miller for having the courage to establish that “control” belongs to the country through our elected representatives and not a clique in Whitehall." Ever looked into who was/is funding Gina Miller? | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. " No deal but no tarriffs ? Either there’s a deal in there .... or it’s no tarriffs for everyone we trade with (but they can charge our exports a tarriff) | |||
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"And if Parliament rejects your approach but approves the compromise, you are going back to Brussels with your tail between your legs. Praise be to Gina Miller for having the courage to establish that “control” belongs to the country through our elected representatives and not a clique in Whitehall. Ever looked into who was/is funding Gina Miller? " Surprise me | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. No deal but no tarriffs ? Either there’s a deal in there .... or it’s no tarriffs for everyone we trade with (but they can charge our exports a tarriff) " It's a semi deal, might fall foul of WTO rules but establishes a position which could allow for tariff free trade between UK and EU, a bit like a common market.... | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. " Breaks WTO RULES - unless we have zero tariffs with the whole world. Guess what would happen British industry, agriculture etc. | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. Breaks WTO RULES - unless we have zero tariffs with the whole world. Guess what would happen British industry, agriculture etc." Oh c'mon, don't bring facts & common sense to a BREXIT discussion, they don't like that | |||
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"Go to Europe, explain that the deal has no chance of getting through Parliament, thank them for their help and say we are leaving with no deal, that we will operate a zero tarrif regime with the EU as long as they do but no ECJ rules, no CAP, no CFP, restrictions on free movement and no £39n payment and then leave. Breaks WTO RULES - unless we have zero tariffs with the whole world. Guess what would happen British industry, agriculture etc. Oh c'mon, don't bring facts & common sense to a BREXIT discussion, they don't like that " Bloody rules! Why don't we go back to the good old Empire days when we set the rules rather than followed them. Maybe that could be manifesto ?? | |||
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"And if Parliament rejects your approach but approves the compromise, you are going back to Brussels with your tail between your legs. Praise be to Gina Miller for having the courage to establish that “control” belongs to the country through our elected representatives and not a clique in Whitehall." Ah Gina Mills. Didn't she manage to get the vote she wanted and then when they voted against her she called them all the names under the sun. Hmmmm like some of my fellow remainers on here. A sore bitter twisted looser. Again we lost suck it up. | |||
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"As we now seem to have much more clarity about the alternative to being members of the EU, I’d offer a 2nd referendum and if the result was unclear I’d propose a general election. This is too important to leave it to a bunch of numpties in Parliament. It needs to be sanctioned by the voters. A minority of the voting population voted for this approach, it is highly likely that many now think it is all lunacy and we should go back to where we were - a country where we respected others opinions & had a sense of humour..." You have had an election when Cameron offered a vote and the others would not. The Government spent a lot of money on a leaflet for every house hold laying it out. Don't forget the website. You had a referendum vote when we remainers lost. Blow me we then had a General Election when the party who backed the referendum won. Just about but win they did. In all that is unholy how many goes do you want or is it till you win. You respect no one's opinion but your own. How selfish. | |||
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"If I was the PM of the UK I'd give Ni back to the Republic to start" Bit of a simplistic idea, it's not hers to give.. The very suggestion would have the barricades up in some parts of the province and a dusting off of weapons not handed in.. On the other hand maybe there would be legislation more fit for a modern society and not as it is now being more akin to the last century.. | |||
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"As we now seem to have much more clarity about the alternative to being members of the EU, " I'd love to discover clarity. Where did you find it? | |||
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"I would hold secret talks with other euro sceptic states encourage them to leave, with the promise of trade agreements between ourselves and the rest of the world... " ...well that promise would be as useless as BJs! | |||
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