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" President Macron has stepped up attempts to attract UK-based carmakers to France with a private dinner at the Elysée Palace, following their growing concerns about a botched Brexit deal. The heads of Renault Nissan, Vauxhall and Jaguar Land Rover are understood to have been among executives invited to a dinner last week, where the president warned against growing nationalism around the world and said he was making France more business friendly. It is the latest sign Macron is trying to attract firms nervous about the uncertainty created by Brexit. Three French ministers also took part in the dinner, with the organisers ensuring that companies with major UK operations were represented. " Posted on the Guardian Webby 3 hrs ago | |||
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"Looks like Brexit "could" be a big winner for Macron if WE get our Brexit dream . President Macron has stepped up attempts to attract UK-based carmakers to France with a private dinner at the Elysée Palace, following their growing concerns about a botched Brexit deal. The heads of Renault Nissan, Vauxhall and Jaguar Land Rover are understood to have been among executives invited to a dinner last week, where the president warned against growing nationalism around the world and said he was making France more business friendly. It is the latest sign Macron is trying to attract firms nervous about the uncertainty created by Brexit. Three French ministers also took part in the dinner, with the organisers ensuring that companies with major UK operations were represented. Posted on the Guardian Webby 3 hrs ago" You can't seriously be claiming the guardian is an unbiased and reliable source of information  | |||
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"Looks like Brexit "could" be a big winner for Macron if WE get our Brexit dream . President Macron has stepped up attempts to attract UK-based carmakers to France with a private dinner at the Elysée Palace, following their growing concerns about a botched Brexit deal. The heads of Renault Nissan, Vauxhall and Jaguar Land Rover are understood to have been among executives invited to a dinner last week, where the president warned against growing nationalism around the world and said he was making France more business friendly. It is the latest sign Macron is trying to attract firms nervous about the uncertainty created by Brexit. Three French ministers also took part in the dinner, with the organisers ensuring that companies with major UK operations were represented. Posted on the Guardian Webby 3 hrs ago You can't seriously be claiming the guardian is an unbiased and reliable source of information "As the saying goes "one door closes another opens" | |||
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"there's fuck all to tempt business to stay on these islands .... good luck to macron and anyone else who has far better offers than this shitpit of a country" Must be a ball of fun living in your world,the uk might have its problems but its funny how 200,000 people each year want to come and live here, try living in the slums in some of the worlds countries and then perhaps realise how lucky everyone in this country is | |||
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"The French are shit at making cars, I’ve had a few they were all crap." And they were still better than bl and rover ! And yet many English do enjoy buying their cars and of course Peugeot bought good ole English. German. Vauxhall | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French   "the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot | |||
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"On the 1st of September new EU rules on car emissions took effect. This basically has created a huge back log of newly manufactured cara awaiting to be registrated as September is the month the new plates are issued. The backlog is caused due to the fact that there's not enough test centres to deal with the manufacturing output. This is why certain car manufactures are going to 4 day weeks. They sold 20% less cars in September because of the backlog. Take it from someone who works in the industry, manufacturing has slowed down due to over saturation due to a backlog caused by the EU newest rules on emissions, Not because of Brexit. "thx for the insider information. I assumed it was because there was a run in August to get good deals. How long have we known about the change in regs ? | |||
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"Looks like Brexit "could" be a big winner for Macron if WE get our Brexit dream . President Macron has stepped up attempts to attract UK-based carmakers to France with a private dinner at the Elysée Palace, following their growing concerns about a botched Brexit deal. The heads of Renault Nissan, Vauxhall and Jaguar Land Rover are understood to have been among executives invited to a dinner last week, where the president warned against growing nationalism around the world and said he was making France more business friendly. It is the latest sign Macron is trying to attract firms nervous about the uncertainty created by Brexit. Three French ministers also took part in the dinner, with the organisers ensuring that companies with major UK operations were represented. Posted on the Guardian Webby 3 hrs ago You can't seriously be claiming the guardian is an unbiased and reliable source of information "I take it you are claiming this private dinner for UK car makers didn't even exist then, never happened.... Interesting  | |||
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"Looks like Brexit "could" be a big winner for Macron if WE get our Brexit dream . President Macron has stepped up attempts to attract UK-based carmakers to France with a private dinner at the Elysée Palace, following their growing concerns about a botched Brexit deal. The heads of Renault Nissan, Vauxhall and Jaguar Land Rover are understood to have been among executives invited to a dinner last week, where the president warned against growing nationalism around the world and said he was making France more business friendly. It is the latest sign Macron is trying to attract firms nervous about the uncertainty created by Brexit. Three French ministers also took part in the dinner, with the organisers ensuring that companies with major UK operations were represented. Posted on the Guardian Webby 3 hrs ago You can't seriously be claiming the guardian is an unbiased and reliable source of information
As the saying goes "one door closes another opens""Indeed, but it could be a bloody big door closing as you put it, would the one opening be bigger ? | |||
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"The French are shit at making cars, I’ve had a few they were all crap." I don't really see the relevence to be honest. Sad thing is the UK hardly has any UK owned car manufacturers left now of any note. | |||
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"I’d say rest of the world is a big door " Say for arguments sake we lost a lot of our car manufacturing plants, Nissan, Vauxhall, JLR etc , that's a lot of ground to make up don't you think ? | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot "A lot of countries sent troops to liberate France. Britain was not the largest contingent. | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
A lot of countries sent troops to liberate France. Britain was not the largest contingent.
"We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
A lot of countries sent troops to liberate France. Britain was not the largest contingent.
We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie)."Britain entered the war because it had a treaty with Poland! Hitler invaded Poland and we went to war - nothing to do with the French other than they too were at war with Germany! | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
A lot of countries sent troops to liberate France. Britain was not the largest contingent.
We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie).
Britain entered the war because it had a treaty with Poland! Hitler invaded Poland and we went to war - nothing to do with the French other than they too were at war with Germany!"Not for long! And not all of France wasn't totally against the German occupation. | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
A lot of countries sent troops to liberate France. Britain was not the largest contingent.
We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie).
Britain entered the war because it had a treaty with Poland! Hitler invaded Poland and we went to war - nothing to do with the French other than they too were at war with Germany!"Britain as well as British India and Canada were all involved in the Battle of France. You know, what turned into the Battle of Dunkirk. So we were helping the frogs since at least 1940. | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot "I am not quite sure if this is being ironic or not. If not the idea that the French should Base their policy on events that happened over seventy years ago is an interesting insight into the brexit mind. | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
I am not quite sure if this is being ironic or not. If not the idea that the French should Base their policy on events that happened over seventy years ago is an interesting insight into the brexit mind. "I can understand why you would say that. I wish I could go back in time and explain to old Winston why we should have kept our troops out of France and concentrated on defending ourselves and our real allies. Good luck to them next time Germany invade, I’m guessing it will start with yet another row over the Alsace. | |||
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"I’d say rest of the world is a big door " But it's not a choice between the EU and the rest of the world. We already trade with the whole world on WTO terms. Those terms include preferential trading with the EU/EEA/EFTA and 60 other countries outside that grouping. What our choice is is trading on preferential terms with EU/EEA/EFTA + 60 and standard WTO terms with the rest of the world or trade on standard WTO terms with the whole world. There is no economic argument for BREXIT and those that have looked into it know this, including many leavers. The only valid argument for BREXIT is the sovereignty argument and that the cost is worth it. But that's not the argument BREXITers often make because that know that most people won't accept it. So they simply lie about it. | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
I am not quite sure if this is being ironic or not. If not the idea that the French should Base their policy on events that happened over seventy years ago is an interesting insight into the brexit mind.
I can understand why you would say that. I wish I could go back in time and explain to old Winston why we should have kept our troops out of France and concentrated on defending ourselves and our real allies.
Good luck to them next time Germany invade, I’m guessing it will start with yet another row over the Alsace."Just out of interest, how long do you think this gratitude should last? Should we do what the Russians and Americans want because we would never have won world war 2 without their input? | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
I am not quite sure if this is being ironic or not. If not the idea that the French should Base their policy on events that happened over seventy years ago is an interesting insight into the brexit mind.
I can understand why you would say that. I wish I could go back in time and explain to old Winston why we should have kept our troops out of France and concentrated on defending ourselves and our real allies.
Good luck to them next time Germany invade, I’m guessing it will start with yet another row over the Alsace."I think that is extremely unlikely but what is likely, thanks to BREXIT, is a Franco Germany hegemony in Europe from Norway in the north to Malta in the south and Ireland in the west and Ukrainian in the east leaving the UK completely surrounded and with absolutely no say other the rules and trading arrangements of what will continue to be our biggest export market. It was to avoid such a scenario that we went to war against France in the 18th & 19th century and again, twice, in the 20th century. BREXITers have just surrendered our say in our own future. There are no long term friends or gratitude in international relations, just long term interests. Britain's long term interests our, as they have been for over 1000 years, mostly in Europe. What ever happens there will always effect us. The only question is how much influence and say we have over what happens there. | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot " Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. | |||
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"there's fuck all to tempt business to stay on these islands .... good luck to macron and anyone else who has far better offers than this shitpit of a country Must be a ball of fun living in your world,the uk might have its problems but its funny how 200,000 people each year want to come and live here, try living in the slums in some of the worlds countries and then perhaps realise how lucky everyone in this country is" Exactly. | |||
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"It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's." it's seeming more and more that their efforts were wasted and they just bought us 70 of time | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's." there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe | |||
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". I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe " Had the russians not been supplied by the convoys taking vital supplies to them they may well have been over run by the germans, it is a very underated contribution to the war effort, as indeed were the north atlantic convoys, thousands lost their lives at sea. Every single man and woman who played apart in defeating hitlerand the japanese deserve our respect and gratitude and it really makes me cross when people call this country a shit hole etc, without those who sacrificed their lives and in many cases their youth we wouldnt be allowed to say such things, perhaps those that bad mouth the Uk should try living in other countries and say such things about them, they would soon find out how liberal the UK is | |||
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" there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe " No one is underplaying anyone or anything - just fact-checking Brexiters whose idea of the truth is a long way from the actual truth. | |||
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" there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe No one is underplaying anyone or anything - just fact-checking Brexiters whose idea of the truth is a long way from the actual truth. It’s just whenever this comes up you always get the it wasn’t the brits what about the allied forces the polish pilots the Indians and so on we all know the sacrifice these ppl gave and how important they were but hundreds of thousands of young British lads played a massive part for 6 long yrs but it’s the fashion nowadays on fab to under value what these heroes actually did " | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot
A lot of countries sent troops to liberate France. Britain was not the largest contingent.
We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie).
Britain entered the war because it had a treaty with Poland! Hitler invaded Poland and we went to war - nothing to do with the French other than they too were at war with Germany!
Not for long! And not all of France wasn't totally against the German occupation."Quite correct - Vichy France was administered by French Vichy who were despised by the French and they were hunted down after the war and dealt with! Having said that they were opportunists who backed the wrong side - any correlation here? | |||
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" there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe No one is underplaying anyone or anything - just fact-checking Brexiters whose idea of the truth is a long way from the actual truth. It’s just whenever this comes up you always get the it wasn’t the brits what about the allied forces the polish pilots the Indians and so on we all know the sacrifice these ppl gave and how important they were but hundreds of thousands of young British lads played a massive part for 6 long yrs but it’s the fashion nowadays on fab to under value what these heroes actually did " Why dont you read the post that I was originally replying to instead of jumping the gun and assuming. A well known Brexiter suggested that France owed "us" specifically for freeing them from the jackboot. I simply asked why do they not owe Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Anzacs, Indians, Russians and the rest? It is simply inaccurate to state the Europe owes the UK alone and it is also a fact that without Allied interventions there would never have been invsions through Italy or via Dunkirk because the British Army was not big enough or well equipped enough to take on the Nazi's alone. | |||
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"It is very interesting to see people say that French owe US and WE won the war with OUR blood, in fact all they saw of the war was a tv program on tell. Taking a lot of credit for what grandparents and great grandparents did " Nationalism teaches you take pride in things you haven't done & hate people you've never met. | |||
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"It is very interesting to see people say that French owe US and WE won the war with OUR blood, in fact all they saw of the war was a tv program on tell. Taking a lot of credit for what grandparents and great grandparents did " It totally disgusts me and definitely disrespects what my Grandparents fought for and what many of their friends died for. There is more to being a patriot than just waving a plastic flag and knocking Johnny Foreigner. These people didn't fight and die to see Europe descend once again into petty nationalistic rivalry. | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe " One of the things that undermines the sacrifice made is the rise of the far right spouting the same vile language of the fascists that many of all nations fought and died to oppose in those times.. | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe One of the things that undermines the sacrifice made is the rise of the far right spouting the same vile language of the fascists that many of all nations fought and died to oppose in those times.. " where is this rise in the far right is it just on social media or real life I must live on the moon ? | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe One of the things that undermines the sacrifice made is the rise of the far right spouting the same vile language of the fascists that many of all nations fought and died to oppose in those times.. " And so sad how the irony of your above fact is lost  | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe " The Russians were saved by the fact that the Japanese did not attack them as expected, freeing up a huge number of soldiers as reinforcements at the battle of Stalingrad. Without those reinforcements the Russians would have lost that battle, and the outcome of WW2 might well have been different... | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe The Russians were saved by the fact that the Japanese did not attack them as expected, freeing up a huge number of soldiers as reinforcements at the battle of Stalingrad. Without those reinforcements the Russians would have lost that battle, and the outcome of WW2 might well have been different..." Shh you're not supposed to illustrate that luck and not the almighty invincible, let's not forget individual plucky British single handedly won the war  | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe The Russians were saved by the fact that the Japanese did not attack them as expected, freeing up a huge number of soldiers as reinforcements at the battle of Stalingrad. Without those reinforcements the Russians would have lost that battle, and the outcome of WW2 might well have been different... Shh you're not supposed to illustrate that luck and not the almighty invincible, let's not forget individual plucky British single handedly won the war "Hold on, what happened on the Eastern Front was lucky, many people have no idea how much. The weather plus the unexpected reinforcements won what was probably the most important battle of WW2. No single nation was capable of beating Hitler’s Germany, it took a large number of nation states working together. I personally don’t like to give too much credit to the Yanks. They bled us dry for months lend leasing us WW1 ships that were duly sunk by German Uboats. Then joined in when the rest of us were almost beat. Nice.... | |||
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"the right are busy revising history ... meanwhile the French president shows how much more attractive France is for the motor industry than Shit-hole UK PLC and a solihull car plant closes " Many UK humans think themselves unique and clever Oddly so to our for fathers the French lol yet they remain and are in a prime position to pick up the pieces The Eu has a deal with a lot of countries and one condition of such deals is they get a better deal than small fry like the UK for example But I'm sure the UK can do a deal with India that makes t shirts and cars cheaper xxx | |||
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"there's fuck all to tempt business to stay on these islands .... good luck to macron and anyone else who has far better offers than this shitpit of a country" Could not have put it better myself. | |||
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"...the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot Why do the French specifically owe "us" and NOT say the Russians, or the Canadians, or the Americans, or the Kiwi's, the Aussies, the Indians, the S Africans and the free Europeans? Why specifically us? The history books that I read said that the British and French were given a thorough beating in 1940 and that led to the British forces conducting a humiliating retreat across the Channel from Dunkirk. The Royal Air Force then held the Luftwaffe at bay thanks to some heroic efforts by Polish, Canadian, free European and of course the RAF itself. The freeing of France from the jackboot as you call it was an effort conducted by the Russians in the East, the British and Americans from the South and an truly multinational invasion force from the North. I guess that it must be nice to think that Ingerlaand won the war, but we didn't. It was a huge Allied Force that eventually defeated the Nazi's. there was lots of humiliating retreats on all sides by all it was after all a 6 yr war other wise would of been over a lot faster the Russians were saved by there winter some of the allies were only in the war for two yrs but it pleases some ppl to under play the brave young British men who gave up there lives to liberate Europe The Russians were saved by the fact that the Japanese did not attack them as expected, freeing up a huge number of soldiers as reinforcements at the battle of Stalingrad. Without those reinforcements the Russians would have lost that battle, and the outcome of WW2 might well have been different..." Wow... History re-written, As I recall the Japanese Russian war lasted all of three weeks - in 1945 and about as distant and irrelevant to Stalingrad as irrelevant could be. Generals January and Febuary defeated an arrogant Third Reich. Nothing to do with Japan. | |||
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"It's been an ongoing directive for the EU to reduce car emissions, they've continued to create and reseach more reliable and efficient methods of testing. These tests as there's 2, were first used last year in September just for that month. September this year it's now mandatory for all new cars manufactured. September 2019 these tests will be carried out independently so we expect to see a similar situation next year. "Scary one (known) change in regs can cause such disruption .... | |||
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"Just goes to show you can’t trust the French the French still owe us big style for freeing them from the jackboot.they've got short memories that lot "Yep, them kermits owe us | |||
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie)." The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ? | |||
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ?" They owe us, history is where alliances are made, and even after hundreds of years where we were at war with the frogs, we still helped them out of the shit in two world wars. Both times against their new best friends the crauts. I think that post BREXIT we will need to take another look at continental Europe, and decide which of the countries are friends and which are foes. On the foe list immediately go France and Germany. Fuck em both to hell. | |||
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ? They owe us, history is where alliances are made, and even after hundreds of years where we were at war with the frogs, we still helped them out of the shit in two world wars. Both times against their new best friends the crauts. I think that post BREXIT we will need to take another look at continental Europe, and decide which of the countries are friends and which are foes. On the foe list immediately go France and Germany. Fuck em both to hell." A perfect specimen of the human race! Thank God they are a minority albeit vocal! | |||
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ? They owe us, history is where alliances are made, and even after hundreds of years where we were at war with the frogs, we still helped them out of the shit in two world wars. Both times against their new best friends the crauts. I think that post BREXIT we will need to take another look at continental Europe, and decide which of the countries are friends and which are foes. On the foe list immediately go France and Germany. Fuck em both to hell." Sounding very angry & bitter there Geeezah
Thankfully you're not in any position to be declaring who's on the UK's shit list if at all there sould even be one.
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ? They owe us, history is where alliances are made, and even after hundreds of years where we were at war with the frogs, we still helped them out of the shit in two world wars. Both times against their new best friends the crauts. I think that post BREXIT we will need to take another look at continental Europe, and decide which of the countries are friends and which are foes. On the foe list immediately go France and Germany. Fuck em both to hell." Even if we could do this, we’re negitiating with the Eu. Bit the individual countries. By the same logic, I guess we need to bend over and bite the pillow with Trump then. | |||
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" By the same logic, I guess we need to bend over and bite the pillow with Trump then. " Unfortunately we have been doing so with America for a long time. | |||
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"Over 100k cars are made monthly in the UK. The indursty has failed to address the issue as they can use the drop in manufacturing and Brext to put pressure on the government for more attractive terms i.e. tax breaks and the like. This isn't a conspiracy this is just business. I wouldn't be suprised if Nissan and Landrover were given a much better offer than they've previously had. Next year they will need an independent overseer. It's always going to cause a disruption when new regulations are implemented and car manufacturing output will drop due to this. Overall less cars will be made until the industry gets to grips with the new regulations. " The world is awash with new cars. We are producing them faster than we are selling them. Consumer concerns over petrol cars, diesel cars, electric cars are not helping for a steadying in the market. Demand in China for our prestige marques was down 12% year on year, and fell 46% over the last three months. | |||
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"The French are shit at making cars, I’ve had a few they were all crap." He's right. I've dodged that bullet a few times but know people that have had them and they are unreliable heaps of junk. | |||
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"Over 100k cars are made monthly in the UK. The indursty has failed to address the issue as they can use the drop in manufacturing and Brext to put pressure on the government for more attractive terms i.e. tax breaks and the like. This isn't a conspiracy this is just business. I wouldn't be suprised if Nissan and Landrover were given a much better offer than they've previously had. Next year they will need an independent overseer. It's always going to cause a disruption when new regulations are implemented and car manufacturing output will drop due to this. Overall less cars will be made until the industry gets to grips with the new regulations. The world is awash with new cars. We are producing them faster than we are selling them. Consumer concerns over petrol cars, diesel cars, electric cars are not helping for a steadying in the market. Demand in China for our prestige marques was down 12% year on year, and fell 46% over the last three months." You can thank Trump for that! | |||
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"The French are shit at making cars, I’ve had a few they were all crap. He's right. I've dodged that bullet a few times but know people that have had them and they are unreliable heaps of junk." Had Citroen's for the last 30 years - no problems - must have been lucky! | |||
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ? They owe us, history is where alliances are made, and even after hundreds of years where we were at war with the frogs, we still helped them out of the shit in two world wars. Both times against their new best friends the crauts. I think that post BREXIT we will need to take another look at continental Europe, and decide which of the countries are friends and which are foes. On the foe list immediately go France and Germany. Fuck em both to hell." Then history will tell you when William conquered the Swedes English humans are indeed frogs ! Where do you want to draw your arbitrary historic line ? | |||
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"Over 100k cars are made monthly in the UK. The indursty has failed to address the issue as they can use the drop in manufacturing and Brext to put pressure on the government for more attractive terms i.e. tax breaks and the like. This isn't a conspiracy this is just business. I wouldn't be suprised if Nissan and Landrover were given a much better offer than they've previously had. Next year they will need an independent overseer. It's always going to cause a disruption when new regulations are implemented and car manufacturing output will drop due to this. Overall less cars will be made until the industry gets to grips with the new regulations. The world is awash with new cars. We are producing them faster than we are selling them. Consumer concerns over petrol cars, diesel cars, electric cars are not helping for a steadying in the market. Demand in China for our prestige marques was down 12% year on year, and fell 46% over the last three months." This x | |||
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" We were there almost from the beginning, put ourselves into huge debt, not to mention losing what was left of our empire. Oh and once everybody was ready, we provided the bloody launchpad. So yes the French do owe us for getting them out of the shit with none other than their new best mates the Germans (bastards bombed our chippie). The vast majority of French people "owe" YOU , ME , US NOTHING How can anyone have the Gaul to even say this when they weren't even fucking born during that time. The only feeling of owed / entitlement of services to another could only come from people striving during that time and not some pompous pilot on a sex site. Why don't you single out the Dutch instead or the Polish or the Belgian's ? They owe us, history is where alliances are made, and even after hundreds of years where we were at war with the frogs, we still helped them out of the shit in two world wars. Both times against their new best friends the crauts. I think that post BREXIT we will need to take another look at continental Europe, and decide which of the countries are friends and which are foes. On the foe list immediately go France and Germany. Fuck em both to hell." Are you this ignorant and moronic in real life, or is this just a show for the forum? You do realise that even though we are leaving the EU we arent leaving NATO dont you? | |||
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" The world is awash with new cars. We are producing them faster than we are selling them. Consumer concerns over petrol cars, diesel cars, electric cars are not helping for a steadying in the market. Demand in China for our prestige marques was down 12% year on year, and fell 46% over the last three months." Car production in the UK fell by 3% this year from last. It rises and falls on a monthly basis. Most of the cars made here are exported to Europe. China accounts for 6% of the total cars exported. The SMMT blamed preparation for new emissions tests and new car models for what it said was a "one-month anomaly". Longer term, UK car production was as expected, the industry body said. | |||
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