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"I’ve spoken to my lawyers who have advised me to say: ** UNDISCLOSED ON A CASUAL SEX SITE FORUM ** " Well bugger, yours was the answer I was most intrigued about hearing  | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face. So even if in the future you believe the conservatives values suit you and your family better than Labour ones you would still vote Labour because that's what you do. Then you should have your vote taken away, as, should anybody else who votes without actually knowing what they are voting for other than class, family tradition or some other idiotic reason. You should vote at each election for the party you believe will do the best for you, yours the country and the world. Voting one way or another because you're indoctrinated is sad and pathetic. " Perfect answer. | |||
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"I’ve spoken to my lawyers who have advised me to say: ** UNDISCLOSED ON A CASUAL SEX SITE FORUM ** Well bugger, yours was the answer I was most intrigued about hearing " have you seen the nutters on the politics forum! I’m not alienating anything from 60% to 80% of my potential fuck targets | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face." Dear O.P. there is a political forum. Mwah. | |||
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"BNP Mrs" Fucking hell. | |||
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"I dont vote waist of time as brexit is proving  "Disgraceful. | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face." Ingrate. Was it Labour that gave you gay marriage? | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there "Kind of you to point out. Many thanks. | |||
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"Yawn - please move this to the politics forum! The usual subjects can rant and be right about everything there "Agreed. | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there
Kind of you to point out.
Many thanks. "Just saying, i've certainly never seen her at our annual conference | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there
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Just saying, i've certainly never seen her at our annual conference "I was on my way to the last one. Had my blonde wig on and everything. But you know, black people time. Missed it  | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there
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Just saying, i've certainly never seen her at our annual conference
I was on my way to the last one. Had my blonde wig on and everything. But you know, black people time. Missed it "Black people time | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there
Kind of you to point out.
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Just saying, i've certainly never seen her at our annual conference
I was on my way to the last one. Had my blonde wig on and everything. But you know, black people time. Missed it
Black people time "Many deny it exists, but it's a real thing! And, it's especially prevalent in Zimbabweans. I do try to be on time but in my defence, it's not my fault. It's how I was manufactured | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there "Looks like a politics regular has crept in to normal life. Monster raving loony for life. | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face. So even if in the future you believe the conservatives values suit you and your family better than Labour ones you would still vote Labour because that's what you do. Then you should have your vote taken away, as, should anybody else who votes without actually knowing what they are voting for other than class, family tradition or some other idiotic reason. You should vote at each election for the party you believe will do the best for you, yours the country and the world. Voting one way or another because you're indoctrinated is sad and pathetic. " Luckily we are allowed to vote for whoever we want for whatever reason we like, however frivolous | |||
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"BNP Mrs Fucking hell. There might have been some sarcasm there
Kind of you to point out.
Many thanks.
Just saying, i've certainly never seen her at our annual conference
I was on my way to the last one. Had my blonde wig on and everything. But you know, black people time. Missed it
Black people time
Many deny it exists, but it's a real thing! And, it's especially prevalent in Zimbabweans. I do try to be on time but in my defence, it's not my fault. It's how I was manufactured "That's the benefit of wearing klan robes to the conference. You can turn up late and nobody is any the wiser who was under the hood. | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face. So even if in the future you believe the conservatives values suit you and your family better than Labour ones you would still vote Labour because that's what you do. Then you should have your vote taken away, as, should anybody else who votes without actually knowing what they are voting for other than class, family tradition or some other idiotic reason. You should vote at each election for the party you believe will do the best for you, yours the country and the world. Voting one way or another because you're indoctrinated is sad and pathetic. Luckily we are allowed to vote for whoever we want for whatever reason we like, however frivolous "Eugh what a horrible thing to say. It's rare i agree with the angry side of _bonynivory but he's right this time. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Maybe you were joking but people voting on terrible logic is sort of the in-thing right so, so it's a bit raw. | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face. So even if in the future you believe the conservatives values suit you and your family better than Labour ones you would still vote Labour because that's what you do. Then you should have your vote taken away, as, should anybody else who votes without actually knowing what they are voting for other than class, family tradition or some other idiotic reason. You should vote at each election for the party you believe will do the best for you, yours the country and the world. Voting one way or another because you're indoctrinated is sad and pathetic. Luckily we are allowed to vote for whoever we want for whatever reason we like, however frivolous
Eugh what a horrible thing to say. It's rare i agree with the angry side of _bonynivory but he's right this time. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Maybe you were joking but people voting on terrible logic is sort of the in-thing right so, so it's a bit raw. "
You know you always do but just like to be controversial whereas I'm so mainstream,, lol. | |||
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"I am disillusioned with each and every one of our political parties at the moment If there was a snap general election, as much as it pains me to say it, I'd probably vote for the Conservatives, not because I agree with them or their values, but because there is no realistic alternative at this moment in time " This is me. I held my nose and voted conservative at the last election because Labour are horrendous and lib dems have no chance in our area. Nor did I like the lib dem candidate. But the conservatives aren't conservative, May is an absolute idiot and I really hope Rees-Mogg takes over from her. If we must have a looney left then can we at least have a conservative right. | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face. So even if in the future you believe the conservatives values suit you and your family better than Labour ones you would still vote Labour because that's what you do. Then you should have your vote taken away, as, should anybody else who votes without actually knowing what they are voting for other than class, family tradition or some other idiotic reason. You should vote at each election for the party you believe will do the best for you, yours the country and the world. Voting one way or another because you're indoctrinated is sad and pathetic. Luckily we are allowed to vote for whoever we want for whatever reason we like, however frivolous
Eugh what a horrible thing to say. It's rare i agree with the angry side of _bonynivory but he's right this time. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Maybe you were joking but people voting on terrible logic is sort of the in-thing right so, so it's a bit raw.
You know you always do but just like to be controversial whereas I'm so mainstream,, lol.
If anyone offers me 12/1 or better then I'm betting that the you don't have a wife, but you do have multiple personality disorder."Oh the thread has moved now. Everyone will be all serious and shit. I'm out
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"I'd like to know whether people having very differing political values from you would make any difference to whether you would meet them or not?" Good point I guess though extreme views either way will put a lot off I know it would me. | |||
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"I'd like to know whether people having very differing political values from you would make any difference to whether you would meet them or not?" For me yeah, instant turn off in some cases. So, if its totally casual, I'd try not find out. | |||
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"I'd like to know whether people having very differing political values from you would make any difference to whether you would meet them or not?" If they could discuss their views rationally and not just resort to name calling, swearing and such like, then it wouldn’t be an issue. Unless they were extreme far right. | |||
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"I really do wonder about how we as a society have settled on this supposed 'fact' that the Greens are far left... Far left is full communism...it ain't the bloody Green party!" It’s party of the far rights agenda to normalise their politics by attempting to shift everything to the right and labelling anything different as “hard left”. | |||
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"I think for me political opinion can correlate to general values. Far right attitudes that come with a lot of sexist and racist nonsense are always going to be difficult for me to ignore. I need to like someone to want to have sex with them." | |||
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"By nature I would be a Conservative voter and I did vote for them in the Thatcher and Major times. But I did also vote Labour when I felt that Tony Blair would deliver a change. I have felt unable to vote in the last two elections as there is nothing out there that reflects the way I feel. Oh.... and locally I often vote for the Lib Dem’s as they are the only party that makes an effort. Labour don’t care because they will always get in in these parts and the Conservatives don’t care because they know that they will never get in." I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it!" What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely" Just like leavers then .. | |||
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" Just like leavers then .. "I'm sure some did lots of research and came to an entirely different conclusion to me. But I worry that many voted that way to "stick it to the man" or because they saw the bus. | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely Just like leavers then .. "whey hey and it’s starts again lol | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely" A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. " Yes I agree,leave would of had a bigger majority | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. Yes I agree,leave would of had a bigger majority " Have you read some of the absolute nonsense the leavers who post on here as their reasons to leave? 10 minutes on google would correct 90% of their misconceptions. | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. " I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ... | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ... " | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ...
"My point was "A" political regardless of how you voted! It's not that long ago that women were dying for a right to vote! The "common " man has not had the vote that much longer than women - they fought for the right! Therefore, if the 7m people who didn't vote in the referendum had voted - and that produced a result of say 60-40% to whatever "side" a clear majority we may not have had the division we have now! | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ...
My point was "A" political regardless of how you voted! It's not that long ago that women were dying for a right to vote! The "common " man has not had the vote that much longer than women - they fought for the right! Therefore, if the 7m people who didn't vote in the referendum had voted - and that produced a result of say 60-40% to whatever "side" a clear majority we may not have had the division we have now!"I’m not sure, part of the despair felt at leave winning is knowing how many people have swung to the far right in this country. It’s a truly scary thought. We were the laughing stock of the world, things move on quickly thankfully. The sharp rise in race related crime. These things would be exacerbated if leave won by day 60%. | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ... "And labour voters to move out of the council flat twice in one week.. | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ...
My point was "A" political regardless of how you voted! It's not that long ago that women were dying for a right to vote! The "common " man has not had the vote that much longer than women - they fought for the right! Therefore, if the 7m people who didn't vote in the referendum had voted - and that produced a result of say 60-40% to whatever "side" a clear majority we may not have had the division we have now!
I’m not sure, part of the despair felt at leave winning is knowing how many people have swung to the far right in this country. It’s a truly scary thought.
We were the laughing stock of the world, things move on quickly thankfully.
The sharp rise in race related crime.
These things would be exacerbated if leave won by day 60%."Have to disagree I think whilst we didn't like the result it would have been a clear majority. As Farage said before the result - If it's 52/48 it's not over. When we joined its was 65/35 so no arguing but now it's so close and absolute hatred of the other side has been expressed by both sides (extremists ). As far as right wing is concerned I agree 100% - but history will repeat itself and a good old war will sort it out as it did in the 1930's! | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ...
My point was "A" political regardless of how you voted! It's not that long ago that women were dying for a right to vote! The "common " man has not had the vote that much longer than women - they fought for the right! Therefore, if the 7m people who didn't vote in the referendum had voted - and that produced a result of say 60-40% to whatever "side" a clear majority we may not have had the division we have now!
I’m not sure, part of the despair felt at leave winning is knowing how many people have swung to the far right in this country. It’s a truly scary thought.
We were the laughing stock of the world, things move on quickly thankfully.
The sharp rise in race related crime.
These things would be exacerbated if leave won by day 60%.
Have to disagree I think whilst we didn't like the result it would have been a clear majority. As Farage said before the result - If it's 52/48 it's not over. When we joined its was 65/35 so no arguing but now it's so close and absolute hatred of the other side has been expressed by both sides (extremists ).
As far as right wing is concerned I agree 100% - but history will repeat itself and a good old war will sort it out as it did in the 1930's!"Civil war is an option maybe but not world war because that would most likley lead to our extinction . | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war!" Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem "I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world! | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world! ".... And I'm the drama queen.... | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
.... And I'm the drama queen...."Trump won’t start any conflict that would or even could lead to bombs hitting the US. He might continue the Zionist dream of taking out Arab leaders in the Middle East. If he can “prove” that Iran as WMD’s. Well you know how these things play out... | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
.... And I'm the drama queen....
Trump won’t start any conflict that would or even could lead to bombs hitting the US. He might continue the Zionist dream of taking out Arab leaders in the Middle East. If he can “prove” that Iran as WMD’s. Well you know how these things play out..."You don't need to prove WMD's just biological weapons France bombed the shyte out of Syria for a terrorist attack in Paris, Fuck China anyhow we could do with a ruddy good clean up were about 9 billion in abundance if you ask me | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
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Trump won’t start any conflict that would or even could lead to bombs hitting the US. He might continue the Zionist dream of taking out Arab leaders in the Middle East. If he can “prove” that Iran as WMD’s. Well you know how these things play out...
You don't need to prove WMD's just biological weapons France bombed the shyte out of Syria for a terrorist attack in Paris, Fuck China anyhow we could do with a ruddy good clean up were about 9 billion in abundance if you ask me "There are only 7.4 billion on the planet you'll have to wait to mid century to incinerate that many humans . | |||
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" Fuck China anyhow we could do with a ruddy good clean up were about 9 billion in abundance if you ask me " From UK voting to genocide in one easy post! | |||
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"apathy.. though those trying to hark back to a time of 'great' britishness are just idiots in my opinion..its almost as bad as those who think the sun revolves around the earth." takes one to know one | |||
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"By nature I would be a Conservative voter and I did vote for them in the Thatcher and Major times. But I did also vote Labour when I felt that Tony Blair would deliver a change. I have felt unable to vote in the last two elections as there is nothing out there that reflects the way I feel. Oh.... and locally I often vote for the Lib Dem’s as they are the only party that makes an effort. Labour don’t care because they will always get in in these parts and the Conservatives don’t care because they know that they will never get in." I'm always amazed when I read your posts at how closely your thoughts and actions mirror my own. I now always check down a thread to see if you guys have already posted and often, when you have, I end up just posting a | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ...
My point was "A" political regardless of how you voted! It's not that long ago that women were dying for a right to vote! The "common " man has not had the vote that much longer than women - they fought for the right! Therefore, if the 7m people who didn't vote in the referendum had voted - and that produced a result of say 60-40% to whatever "side" a clear majority we may not have had the division we have now!
I’m not sure, part of the despair felt at leave winning is knowing how many people have swung to the far right in this country. It’s a truly scary thought.
We were the laughing stock of the world, things move on quickly thankfully.
The sharp rise in race related crime.
These things would be exacerbated if leave won by day 60%."Wanting to leave the EU is not far right. It's just wanting to leave the EU. Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonald are BREXITers as was Peter Shaw, Michael Foot and Tony Ben. You can call them many things but far right is not one of them. | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
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Trump won’t start any conflict that would or even could lead to bombs hitting the US. He might continue the Zionist dream of taking out Arab leaders in the Middle East. If he can “prove” that Iran as WMD’s. Well you know how these things play out..."If you read "Fear" you will see just what trump is capable of - the World is a much more dangerous place thanks to President Trump! | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world! "And when people point out the Nazi plan for Europe when they'd won World War 2, and how close it is to the EU model and ideology? | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
And when people point out the Nazi plan for Europe when they'd won World War 2, and how close it is to the EU model and ideology?"What a ridiculous thing to say. Are you trying to suggest that the nazis were pro environmental protection, pro workers rights, pro human rights etc? | |||
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" And when people point out the Nazi plan for Europe when they'd won World War 2, and how close it is to the EU model and ideology?" I'm not aware the EU has any plans for genocide. Can you enlighten me, please? | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
And when people point out the Nazi plan for Europe when they'd won World War 2, and how close it is to the EU model and ideology?
What a ridiculous thing to say. Are you trying to suggest that the nazis were pro environmental protection, pro workers rights, pro human rights etc? "Who was pro environmental protection in the 1940's? Were human rights as they are now? Workers rights? The Nazi blueprint for the future of Europe after the second world war, and how it would be organised, is very similar to the organisation of the EU now....start by looking up Walther Funk and the European Economic Community plan. You might get an education..... | |||
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"SNP. Same" Thankfully in Scotland we have a third choice in the SNP actually listen to what the ppl want SNP for me too | |||
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"SNP. Same Thankfully in Scotland we have a third choice in the SNP actually listen to what the ppl want SNP for me too" Exactly. I don't agree with everything they say, but it's a better option than the red or blue Tory option. | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
And when people point out the Nazi plan for Europe when they'd won World War 2, and how close it is to the EU model and ideology?
What a ridiculous thing to say. Are you trying to suggest that the nazis were pro environmental protection, pro workers rights, pro human rights etc?
Who was pro environmental protection in the 1940's? Were human rights as they are now? Workers rights?
The Nazi blueprint for the future of Europe after the second world war, and how it would be organised, is very similar to the organisation of the EU now....start by looking up Walther Funk and the European Economic Community plan. You might get an education....."Blue prints for the EU can be found in nazi, communist and churchillian quotes. It’s as though it’s an idea which isn’t aligned to just one political ideal ... and so why our parties have been split. | |||
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"Jesus Christ guys. Listen to yourselves. You're worried about the rise of the right, and now you're the "liberals" getting excited about a war! Its depressing .War solves nothing .I can see a civil war in the US not here . Your such a drama queen Clem
I am not talking about a civil war - I am talking about the possibility of WW3. Trump is following Hitler's ideology and probably a China U.S. conflict could happen. There have already been some near misses. Read the history about how it all started in the 1930's - it's alarming close to now! Remember NATO rule 5 - Trump will drag us into conflict. The only time rule 5 has been used was 9/11 when US were attacked and all the alliance went to war in Afghanistan. It will happen again as trump picks fights all over the world!
And when people point out the Nazi plan for Europe when they'd won World War 2, and how close it is to the EU model and ideology?"I wasn't aware that the EU was in the business of murdering Jews, gypsies, homosexual, liberals and social democrats but if I've missed it maybe you can show me where that EU policy is written down. | |||
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"I'll go first and say Labour. I wouldn't vote Tory even if you held a missile launcher to my face." Labour for me. The tories are far to callous to the less advantaged and the disabled. Being an ex nurse on an a&e department department i follow my conscience. | |||
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"I used to be far left (green) ,now i find myself moving to the right so corbyn gets my vote. "So you would vote for a rascist, didnt think you liked racists ? | |||
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"I used to be far left (green) ,now i find myself moving to the right so corbyn gets my vote.
So you would vote for a rascist, didnt think you liked racists ?"Are you referring to the antisemitism goddip? Bit rich seeing as the tories hsve anti Muslim issues | |||
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"I'd like to know whether people having very differing political values from you would make any difference to whether you would meet them or not?" Yup definitely. No facists or racists. | |||
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"By nature I would be a Conservative voter and I did vote for them in the Thatcher and Major times. But I did also vote Labour when I felt that Tony Blair would deliver a change. I have felt unable to vote in the last two elections as there is nothing out there that reflects the way I feel. Oh.... and locally I often vote for the Lib Dem’s as they are the only party that makes an effort. Labour don’t care because they will always get in in these parts and the Conservatives don’t care because they know that they will never get in. I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it!" In Australia you are fined for not voting. | |||
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"I generally believe in voting against the party in power because politicians are like underwear, they need regular changing. However, I could not ever vote for Corbyn's labour, even though we have a decent labour MP in our area (unless he is deselected by Corbyn's stormtroopers). Oh for Tony Blair and Mandelson - never voted for them when they were in power but definitely would now." You would happily vote for the war criminal Tony Blair? He has the highest direct death count of any PM since WW2. | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking!" I agree 100% 65 is old enough | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough " Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in. | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in." Why don’t we demand this off our MPs? I’m in favour of reduced use of politicians, but see the HoL as being a good checks and balances to popularist and ill thought our laws which can come from a desire to be relected. Otherwise it’s just the HoC by another name. | |||
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"I generally believe in voting against the party in power because politicians are like underwear, they need regular changing. However, I could not ever vote for Corbyn's labour, even though we have a decent labour MP in our area (unless he is deselected by Corbyn's stormtroopers). Oh for Tony Blair and Mandelson - never voted for them when they were in power but definitely would now. You would happily vote for the war criminal Tony Blair? He has the highest direct death count of any PM since WW2. " Just calling someone a war criminal doesn't make them one. 10 years ago I wouldn't have voted for either of them but, given the choices of TrUkip or McDonald's Labour I'd vote for either of them in a heart beat. | |||
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" I'd never vote Labour , they brought Islamic terrorism to the UK. When the Conservatives really need a kick up the arse I look to fringe extreme parties to give my vote to, the media make a song & dance over the BNP gaining votes far more than say The Greens. " You are a very confused person. Do you need help? | |||
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"Voting wise I'd say my personal circumstances would make me a Tory voter I guess. I'd never vote Labour , they brought Islamic terrorism to the UK. When the Conservatives really need a kick up the arse I look to fringe extreme parties to give my vote to, the media make a song & dance over the BNP gaining votes far more than say The Greens. If there's no "shock" parties to vote for and I can't bring myself to vote Tory I'll still go vote but spoil my card." The BNP are finished, Griffin saw to that with his cringeworthy show on Question Time. All those leftist idiots who tried to stop him appearing, when it was the best thing that could have happened for them. Refusing to give a platform just makes things worse. The BNP got years of success because of it... | |||
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"I really do wonder about how we as a society have settled on this supposed 'fact' that the Greens are far left... Far left is full communism...it ain't the bloody Green party!" Full communism?? or Fully automated luxury gay space communism with cats? | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in." So my concept for descummifying politics is to pay them as much as a skilled worker gets, 28 to 35k ? Make being a politician a vocation not a career. Serve the people for 8 years then you're out. | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in." It's the electorate that's the problem. Voting shouldn't be a birth right. | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in. So my concept for descummifying politics is to pay them as much as a skilled worker gets, 28 to 35k ? Make being a politician a vocation not a career. Serve the people for 8 years then you're out. "
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in. It's the electorate that's the problem. Voting shouldn't be a birth right. " What would the eligibility criteria be? | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in. It's the electorate that's the problem. Voting shouldn't be a birth right. What would the eligibility criteria be? " Ask Socrates, I agree with his position on it | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in. It's the electorate that's the problem. Voting shouldn't be a birth right. What would the eligibility criteria be? Ask Socrates, I agree with his position on it " Just had a look https://www.theschooloflife.com/thebookoflife/why-socrates-hated-democracy/ Isn't it circumvented by progress of a person from a junior poloitician being judged by his/her peers over the years, resulting in being eventually dropped or elected as a leader? Trump being a classic example of Socrates's explication | |||
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" I think that the "vote" is a "right" and that it is a "duty" to vote and whilst I understand your predicament you should vote! I would like to see voting become compulsory as in Belgium, however if you chose not to vote, then you should lose your vote. The only way you can get it back is to attend and pass a course on constitutional affairs - similar to driver awareness course. Use it or lose it! What worries me about mandatory voting is that people will blindly vote without reading up or thinking about using their vote wisely A better system would be answering 10 simple questions about the subject in which you’re voting. Get one wrong and you’re not allowed to vote. Britain would be a better place if we’d have done this two years ago. I can't see you selling this to kippers ,they won't be in favour of this it'll require their voters to learn to read ...
My point was "A" political regardless of how you voted! It's not that long ago that women were dying for a right to vote! The "common " man has not had the vote that much longer than women - they fought for the right! Therefore, if the 7m people who didn't vote in the referendum had voted - and that produced a result of say 60-40% to whatever "side" a clear majority we may not have had the division we have now!
I’m not sure, part of the despair felt at leave winning is knowing how many people have swung to the far right in this country. It’s a truly scary thought.
We were the laughing stock of the world, things move on quickly thankfully.
The sharp rise in race related crime.
These things would be exacerbated if leave won by day 60%.
Have to disagree I think whilst we didn't like the result it would have been a clear majority. As Farage said before the result - If it's 52/48 it's not over. When we joined its was 65/35 so no arguing but now it's so close and absolute hatred of the other side has been expressed by both sides (extremists ).
As far as right wing is concerned I agree 100% - but history will repeat itself and a good old war will sort it out as it did in the 1930's!"We never had a vote to join the Eu/common market ......we were taken into it by Ted Heath ..... | |||
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"I personally think that there should be an age limit on politicians - they have to retire at 65 for example and make way for younger people! Fed up of dinosaurs and their way of thinking! I agree 100% 65 is old enough Absolutely agree with you we need to get rid of everyone over 65 in parliament they are disconnected from reality and should be put out to pasture .The House of Lords should be filled with people from all walks not rich lords and ladies and retired politicians .Fill it with nurses and doctors and plumbers and ex soldiers .We the people should vote them in. It's the electorate that's the problem. Voting shouldn't be a birth right. What would the eligibility criteria be? Ask Socrates, I agree with his position on it Just had a look https://www.theschooloflife.com/thebookoflife/why-socrates-hated-democracy/ Isn't it circumvented by progress of a person from a junior poloitician being judged by his/her peers over the years, resulting in being eventually dropped or elected as a leader? Trump being a classic example of Socrates's explication " Trump is certainly a demagogue but so was the alternative at the last US election. | |||
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"I think the current system needs a complete overhaul as sadly for many people there is a complete disconnect with Politics and it has no real meaning or relevance in their lives. The disconnect to the lives of real people is so stark when it comes to pay. Hard working people in the country have 10 years of pay cuts, but Politicians award themselves pay rises. Never mind the other perks including gold plated pensions etc and the ability to drink alcohol at work! Rises in pay above the mean average for the general population should require a public vote! Even where there is interest the current system of voting means that in many areas of the country your vote is wasted unless you vote with the sheep who will always vote for one party no matter what they do as it is traditional. The act of voting itself is archaic. I have to go to a building and make a mark on a bit of paper in a day and age when the world is electronic. The most modern element is a postal vote that includes several envelopes! The whole system is ripe for change at all levels, it may be traditional but it doesn't mean it isn't incredibly stupid. " Unfortunately if we did take the whole voting fiasco and put it online, every loser would attempt to blame hackers for their defeat. As things stand they can stick to the “who counts the votes” theory... | |||
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