FabSwingers.com forum: What is it with the Tommy Robinson Fanboys?

By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Just watching the news now and adult males trying to touch him and chanting his name en masse? I understand fans of talented football players, sportsmen, actors and musicians getting all aroused and excited at meeting their heroes but why this little gobshite?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

So famous never heard of him

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society.."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

So what makes mainly white middle aged men want to treat him like a Rock Star?

Are you really suggesting that he is being hero worshipped for pointing out Muslim sex crimes and ignoring sex crimes made by others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

What on Earth are you talking about? He’s had one issue for the past decade. Race hate against Muslims.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Have you ever seen any of the Nuremberg rally film reels? It is the same appeal to the most base of our instincts to attack everything we do not know or deviates from what we perceive as normal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He makes the victims of the sex abuse scandals feel like the have a voice in the public many of which have lived with the fact that they was abused from being very young and went through ordeals that no one should have to go through I suggest before you type and try slate Tommy Robbinson you research the Dirty Muslim grooming gangs not saying all Muslims are the same. It is written in the Quran to have sex with young children once they reach a certain age so it's inbred in Muslims as far as I'm concerned but in the UK it's not Law so therefore they should abide with UK law and keep there hands to them self. Have you thought that maybe the white men that treat him as he's famous as you put it may have had one of there children fall victim from one of the Muslim grooming gangs it's not hatred for a certain race or culture. He's a hero in my eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes maybe he does hate Muslims a family member of his was groomed by some of them look how many gangs have been found doing that to British children yet you slate the man who speaks out about it. I'm 100%Tommy Robbinson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I am

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

If you change the word Tommy Robinson to Corbyn and Muslims to Jews in your OP then I can see parallels between the two. The Corbynista cult members of Momentum chanting "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" over and over again trying to get near him so they can touch him at the Labour party conference was extremely cringeworthy to say the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hes a wee racist bigoted fud

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

He's a racist and a convicted felon. He needs banging up again

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

If he broke the law, then he pays the price. Doesn't matter who he is,or what his views are.

I would imagine that the Authorities would like him out of the way for a while. There could be another big "Asian grooming" trial coming up.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Have you ever seen any of the Nuremberg rally film reels? It is the same appeal to the most base of our instincts to attack everything we do not know or deviates from what we perceive as normal."

Does that apply to the Tory party or Donald Trump you are always ranting on about!

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By *eepndarkMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society.."

So very right. The thing that gets me is the amount of press he gets. Our press love a Nazi. The Mail and Express leading the charge.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

" It is written in the Quran to have sex with young children once they reach a certain age so it's inbred in Muslims as far as I'm concerned but in the UK it's not Law so therefore they should abide with UK law and keep there hands to them self. "

"It is written in the Bible to have sex with young children (not to mention inc@st and selling children as sex slaves) so it's inbred in christians as far as I am an concerned . . ."

Are you a christian? Do you have sex with young children, too?

It is one thing to criticise criminals. It is another to accuse billions of people of being paedophiles.

Your assertion is ridiculously ignorant.

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By *eepndarkMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Have you ever seen any of the Nuremberg rally film reels? It is the same appeal to the most base of our instincts to attack everything we do not know or deviates from what we perceive as normal."

The very same methods. If Robinson pursued all child abusers he'd have a point. His mission is a race based hatred wrapped in cloak of social responsibilities.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

So Robinson and his chums in the English Defence League are really a movement for child protection?

Lolololol now that is "fake news".

Are you a Russian bot?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

Tommy Robinson cares so much for the victims of grooming gangs that he has done his best to disrupt the trials of the perpetrators, increasing the likelihood they will walk free....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tommy Robinson cares so much for the victims of grooming gangs that he has done his best to disrupt the trials of the perpetrators, increasing the likelihood they will walk free...."

Exactly right here we can see all the tommy fanboys in the thread jump to his defence .What will they say When he is directly responsible for a child rapist walking free .He and his support are morons .End of....

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"He makes the victims of the sex abuse scandals feel like the have a voice in the public many of which have lived with the fact that they was abused from being very young and went through ordeals that no one should have to go through I suggest before you type and try slate Tommy Robbinson you research the Dirty Muslim grooming gangs not saying all Muslims are the same. It is written in the Quran to have sex with young children once they reach a certain age so it's inbred in Muslims as far as I'm concerned but in the UK it's not Law so therefore they should abide with UK law and keep there hands to them self. Have you thought that maybe the white men that treat him as he's famous as you put it may have had one of there children fall victim from one of the Muslim grooming gangs it's not hatred for a certain race or culture. He's a hero in my eyes"

How does he make them feel like they have a voice? You realise he is only famous because he was locked up for trying *to undermine* a legal case against a grooming gang?

If I was in their shoes, I'd be pretty fucking livid that this hooligan decided to try to scupper my chance of getting justice just so he could further his hate crimes.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I may be massively ignorant of what he’s been doing away from the public eye ... but he seems to have only jumped on the bandwagon after the investigation... and then put the trial at risk. It’s an odd way to give victims a voice or help bring them justice.

Maybe you could help with giving some examples of what he has done (and the results it’s had) which makes him your hero, compared to others.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Of course, if you want to target a demographic group based on the propensity to commit child sex crimes, the obvious one to target is men, given they commit 98% of child sex offences.

I don't see TR and his ilk pointing out that fact which you think they would do if they were seriously concerned about preventing child sex abuse as opposed to, I don't know, being racist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Jeremy Corbyn has never said he doesn’t care if he incited hatred against Jews! What a terrible post, Corbyn has spent his whole life fighting racism, Tommy Robinson hasn’t.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did he turn up at the trial of Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall demanding the bbc grooming gang of the 70’s and 80’s be brought to justice? Thought not

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Hes a wee racist bigoted fud"

We know Corbyn is. But what about Tommy Robinson?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Jeremy Corbyn has never said he doesn’t care if he incited hatred against Jews! What a terrible post, Corbyn has spent his whole life fighting racism, Tommy Robinson hasn’t. "
Deflection is common from the alt right .If you support tommy and his brand of hate you say something something Corbyn is like mao and Stalin and something something Jews ..Its usually a feeble attempt to deflect and mask their hatred of muslims by saying the left are just as bad .

Comparing tommy to corbyn shows how pathetic the right wing clowns are .

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It is written in the Bible to have sex with young children (not to mention inc@st and selling children as sex slaves) so it's inbred in christians as far as I am an concerned . . ."

Are you a christian? Do you have sex with young children, too?

It is one thing to criticise criminals. It is another to accuse billions of people of being paedophiles.

Your assertion is ridiculously ignorant."

I second this rational and accurate assessment xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my eyes and opinion he has been a voice for the victims unless you have been there don't judge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hes a wee racist bigoted fud

We know Corbyn is. But what about Tommy Robinson?

As i said wee racist bigoted fud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In my eyes and opinion he has been a voice for the victims unless you have been there don't judge"

He’s extremely specific about which paedos he doesn’t like though. He’s the one who brings race or religion into it, so then it’s reasonable to question his motives. Especially given his background in race-hate groups.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"In my eyes and opinion he has been a voice for the victims unless you have been there don't judge"

What exactly did he do to help the victims of Savelle ?

Your perception and support is distorted

Paedophile rings are disgusting acts of human behaviour to try and attribute paedophilia to any single group is counterproductive and prejudicial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Jeremy Corbyn has never said he doesn’t care if he incited hatred against Jews! What a terrible post, Corbyn has spent his whole life fighting racism, Tommy Robinson hasn’t. Deflection is common from the alt right .If you support tommy and his brand of hate you say something something Corbyn is like mao and Stalin and something something Jews ..Its usually a feeble attempt to deflect and mask their hatred of muslims by saying the left are just as bad .

Comparing tommy to corbyn shows how pathetic the right wing clowns are .

100% bog standard response from Centaur, and a typical alt right approach.

Deflect, or try to win via semantics.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

But he isn't even handed, he doesn't speak out about paedophilia or abuse generally where the overwhelming race of perpetrators is Caucasian.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society.."
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He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society...

He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis."

No he is totally of the same mindset, and like them his words and agenda have and do influence others to carry out extremist acts which have had fatal consequences...

Why anyone would excuse or defend him and others whatever their twisted, sick ideology is beyond me..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society...

He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis.

No he is totally of the same mindset, and like them his words and agenda have and do influence others to carry out extremist acts which have had fatal consequences...

Why anyone would excuse or defend him and others whatever their twisted, sick ideology is beyond me.. "

What do you suggest should happen to him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

His “fame” appears to be all about hate? Why would people celebrate and worship a purveyor of hate and division? He is sowing the seeds of the kind of hatred that he railes against Muslims for sowing."
Your post appears to relate to a court case and the alleged use of a camera inside a court. It is difficult to see what correlation this has to hatred.

The fact remains that many people have correctly identified the correlation between members of a certain ethnic minority and grooming gangs. An added factor would be that a significant number of the members of the minority concerned have little respect towards women.

Recognising facts hardly correlates to hatred. Maybe the truth hurts for some people.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

His “fame” appears to be all about hate? Why would people celebrate and worship a purveyor of hate and division? He is sowing the seeds of the kind of hatred that he railes against Muslims for sowing. Your post appears to relate to a court case and the alleged use of a camera inside a court. It is difficult to see what correlation this has to hatred.

Recognising facts hardly correlates to hatred. Maybe the truth hurts for some people."

Whilst it's true Asian men are over represented amongst grooming gangs, the fact is that child sex offences as a whole are committed by members of ethnic groups in rough proportion to their shares of the population as a whole. In other words, when it comes to paedophilia no ethnic group is more prone to it than any other.

That being the case, one has to question why TR focuses on child sex offences committed by Asians and not ones committed by white people.

Racism is the only answer.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society...

He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis.

No he is totally of the same mindset, and like them his words and agenda have and do influence others to carry out extremist acts which have had fatal consequences...

Why anyone would excuse or defend him and others whatever their twisted, sick ideology is beyond me..

What do you suggest should happen to him?"

Starved of publicity and when he falls foul of the law as he seems to do often then treat him accordingly..

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society...

He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis.

No he is totally of the same mindset, and like them his words and agenda have and do influence others to carry out extremist acts which have had fatal consequences...

Why anyone would excuse or defend him and others whatever their twisted, sick ideology is beyond me.. "
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He's not, your still being obtuse, he's not beheading anybody, he's not r@ping women, he's certainly not against free speech or democracy, he's not waging an illegal occupation, he's not bombing civilians, he's not even broken any laws.

Saying things you don't like does not make him Isis

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

His “fame” appears to be all about hate? Why would people celebrate and worship a purveyor of hate and division? He is sowing the seeds of the kind of hatred that he railes against Muslims for sowing. Your post appears to relate to a court case and the alleged use of a camera inside a court. It is difficult to see what correlation this has to hatred.

Recognising facts hardly correlates to hatred. Maybe the truth hurts for some people."

Maybe your OK with white people abusing children which he looks to be given he only targets none white people..

Would you be happy for someone to only have a campaign against people of Irish descent or people with red hair?

because there should be no selective angst when it's a crime committed sadly by all groups within society..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society...

He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis.

No he is totally of the same mindset, and like them his words and agenda have and do influence others to carry out extremist acts which have had fatal consequences...

Why anyone would excuse or defend him and others whatever their twisted, sick ideology is beyond me.. .

Saying things you don't like does not make him Isis"

He's not isis he says the same vile things they do which is what I said initially, stop defending him..

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

His “fame” appears to be all about hate? Why would people celebrate and worship a purveyor of hate and division? He is sowing the seeds of the kind of hatred that he railes against Muslims for sowing. Your post appears to relate to a court case and the alleged use of a camera inside a court. It is difficult to see what correlation this has to hatred.

Recognising facts hardly correlates to hatred. Maybe the truth hurts for some people."

I wouldn't call 'white men' an ethnic minority.

-Matt

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

His “fame” appears to be all about hate? Why would people celebrate and worship a purveyor of hate and division? He is sowing the seeds of the kind of hatred that he railes against Muslims for sowing. Your post appears to relate to a court case and the alleged use of a camera inside a court. It is difficult to see what correlation this has to hatred.

Recognising facts hardly correlates to hatred. Maybe the truth hurts for some people.

Maybe your OK with white people abusing children which he looks to be given he only targets none white people..

Would you be happy for someone to only have a campaign against people of Irish descent or people with red hair?

because there should be no selective angst when it's a crime committed sadly by all groups within society.. "
I agree woth you there he does target the Asian sex gangs but there’s ppl on here that when Asian sex gangs are mentioned they jump on the Catholic Church and say most peodos are white but never mention the Asian grooming gangs they are all vile but the sex gangs arnt just sex crimes there race crimes aswell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He a jurnilist he reported on a gang attack by a few imigrents on a 13 year old he asked something and due to his article he got sent to jail and placed in the block for a week cps anounced yesterday there no reason for him to be in court and the judge didnt want hear the case till next month .

I know people gate an dont agree with him but if it was my kid that got that done by a few of them an hes only one speaking out for the girl vidieos of usa news publicy state this and state how the uk no longer has freedom of speech one thing tommy fighting for

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The right to a fair trial, free from prejudice, trumps any argument about free speech. Always has. Always will.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

" I agree woth you there he does target the Asian sex gangs but there’s ppl on here that when Asian sex gangs are mentioned they jump on the Catholic Church and say most peodos are white but never mention the Asian grooming gangs they are all vile but the sex gangs arnt just sex crimes there race crimes aswell "

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"He a jurnilist he reported on a gang attack by a few imigrents on a 13 year old he asked something and due to his article he got sent to jail and placed in the block for a week cps anounced yesterday there no reason for him to be in court and the judge didnt want hear the case till next month .

Come again

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so."
because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile "

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Yes secondary I don’t know the numbers but I doubt it be many none whites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh for fucks sake, he’s a nasty little racist gobshite who gets his power by being abusive and threatening and blaming everything on paedophilic immigrants. I had a friend sadly passed away who prosecuted a number of child grooming cases and while there was a large number of mostly second generation immigrants involved in it the fact is that they were a criminal gang who were making money out of passing young children up the food chain. The CPS talk about the M4 corridor where children are groomed in South Wales and sent up to London on a regular basis. Unfortunately it’s nothing new and similar things went on in the 70’s in London with the Maltese gangs taking over Soho. So getting back to TR he is much in the same vein as Hitler did with the Jews blaming all our troubles on a particular ethnic group. It’s not rocket science to see that he is using simple ideas to appeal to emotions rather than presenting a reasoned argument which is the tactic of all bullies.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Oh for fucks sake, he’s a nasty little racist gobshite who gets his power by being abusive and threatening and blaming everything on paedophilic immigrants. I had a friend sadly passed away who prosecuted a number of child grooming cases and while there was a large number of mostly second generation immigrants involved in it the fact is that they were a criminal gang who were making money out of passing young children up the food chain. The CPS talk about the M4 corridor where children are groomed in South Wales and sent up to London on a regular basis. Unfortunately it’s nothing new and similar things went on in the 70’s in London with the Maltese gangs taking over Soho. So getting back to TR he is much in the same vein as Hitler did with the Jews blaming all our troubles on a particular ethnic group. It’s not rocket science to see that he is using simple ideas to appeal to emotions rather than presenting a reasoned argument which is the tactic of all bullies."

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white."

It's interesting that the alt right types frame it in race terns, when it could just as well be framed in gender terms. - older males exploiting younger females.

I wonder why they ignore the gender aspect...

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white.

It's interesting that the alt right types frame it in race terns, when it could just as well be framed in gender terms. - older males exploiting younger females.

I wonder why they ignore the gender aspect...

Because that would put them in the same 'group'. And they don't want to confront reality.

-Matt

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white.

It's interesting that the alt right types frame it in race terns, when it could just as well be framed in gender terms. - older males exploiting younger females.

I wonder why they ignore the gender aspect...

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think it was the police who labeled it as race crimes

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over a year ago

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white.

It's interesting that the alt right types frame it in race terns, when it could just as well be framed in gender terms. - older males exploiting younger females.

I wonder why they ignore the gender aspect...

Because that would put them in the same 'group'. And they don't want to confront reality.

-Matt"

So true

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white.

It's interesting that the alt right types frame it in race terns, when it could just as well be framed in gender terms. - older males exploiting younger females.

I wonder why they ignore the gender aspect...

Because that would put them in the same 'group'. And they don't want to confront reality.

-Matt"

As I said above, 98% of convicted paedos are men, so if we are blaming any group for the crimes of a few of their number, it should be us chaps.

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over a year ago

I don’t like him, and I don’t believe him to be genuine either. Damnit one can’t even be sure what his real name is.

What I can be sure of is that he has taken what is a genuinely disturbing trend of Muslims disrespecting our war dead and grooming our little girls, and made those of us who want to show our disgust in a peaceful and well mannered fashion look like a bunch of louts. I cringe everytime I see one of his videos, and believe that the media are bigging him up because him and his hooligan cronies make us all look bad.

Now he is playing the martyr after breaking the law and jeopardising the trial of a paedophile.

Disgusting...

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I don’t like him, and I don’t believe him to be genuine either. Damnit one can’t even be sure what his real name is.

Now he is playing the martyr after breaking the law and jeopardising the trial of a paedophile.

Disgusting..."

Believe me I'm perfectly capable of denouncing people who disrespect our 'war dead' and 'our little girls' (I'd include any little girls in that btw, non Muslim ones are no better than anyone else's) without beating my chest, wearing a tracksuit, getting pissed or pissing off a whole community when only a minority participate in the nefarious activities described.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes, they're all vile, so why does Robinson single out the Muslim ones, is being abused by a Muslim worse than being abused by a non Muslim?

Robinson's apologists seem to be suggesting so. because it’s a sex and a race crime there all vile

Race may well be a secondary feature compared to the fact all the victims are vulnerable girls and not exclusively white.

It's interesting that the alt right types frame it in race terns, when it could just as well be framed in gender terms. - older males exploiting younger females.

I wonder why they ignore the gender aspect...

Because that would put them in the same 'group'. And they don't want to confront reality.

-Matt

As I said above, 98% of convicted paedos are men, so if we are blaming any group for the crimes of a few of their number, it should be us chaps. "

Indeed and focussing the fire breathing on only one kind of man allows the others to carry on regardless, whilst we miss the opportunity to find a workable solution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same crap argument different day!

ALL paedophiles are scum and imo deserve the hangman’s noose. That being said one cannot hide from the fact that there is a problem with Muslim (mainly Pakistani) gangs grooming raping and torturing little white girls.

There are also people within those communities who know what is going on and simply look the other way. There is no way they could do what they are doing without the knowledge of others that move in the same circle but are not necessarily involved.

As for the poppy burners, I’d have those fuckers deported...

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Same crap argument different day!

As for the poppy burners, I’d have those fuckers deported..."

So do you reckon the friends and family of the 85% of paedos who are white know what's going on. "and simply look to the other way".

Or maybe, just maybe, people who commit serious crimes don't tend to tell people about it.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Same crap argument different day!

As for the poppy burners, I’d have those fuckers deported..."

Not sure why you see it as a crap argument, you haven't addressed the argument!

So does the fact the perpetrators are Muslims aggravate the offence for you? If so why?

Incidentally, do you have any evidence other members of the community know what's going on or is it something you badly want to believe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh fucking hell, how many more times!

ALL paedophiles are scum and ALL of them deserve to be hanged. End of!

The scale with which these gangs are operating suggests that they are known to others who are not actively involved.

I have been a prosecution witness at the trial of a nonce, and yes he is white, and he got 20 years. The main target of this pervert was his step daughter, and the only defence witness was his wife. Yes the mother of the victim took this scumbag’s side against her own daughter. She is now waiting for him and is quite rightly now estranged from all her children, including the one she had with him. It has been suggested that his wife knew all along what he was up to, but turned a blind eye.

So I’m not trying to say that all paedos are Pakistani. But there are gangs operating nation wide, and there must be others covering for them, or at the very least looking the other way.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Every single time Asian grooming gangs are mentioned this happens what about the white peodos how many white peodos the fact that the mention of Asian grooming gangs on here is seen as racist but not the grooming gangs themselves is unbelievable it’s a race crime aswell as a sex crime that’s the difference

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"he is the same as the vile exponents of hate and extremist behaviour in groups such as the IS/Taliban, KKK etc..

they all deserve nothing but scorn and disdain from decent people of all in society...

He isn't is he, your being obtuse I think.

He might say things you don't like, he may broken the law but he definitely isn't anything like the Taliban or Isis.

No he is totally of the same mindset, and like them his words and agenda have and do influence others to carry out extremist acts which have had fatal consequences...

Why anyone would excuse or defend him and others whatever their twisted, sick ideology is beyond me.. .

Saying things you don't like does not make him Isis

He's not isis he says the same vile things they do which is what I said initially, stop defending him.. "
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No I'm afraid I won't stop, he's not Isis, he doesn't say what Isis says, he doesn't use Taliban tactics.

Your the one who used the analogy, it's very easy to stop, just say you were wrong.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Oh fucking hell, how many more times!

ALL paedophiles are scum and ALL of them deserve to be hanged. End of!

The scale with which these gangs are operating suggests that they are known to others who are not actively involved.

So I’m not trying to say that all paedos are Pakistani. But there are gangs operating nation wide, and there must be others covering for them, or at the very least looking the other way.

I don't think we're talking about Pakistani wives colluding in the sexual abuse of their daughters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh fucking hell, how many more times!

ALL paedophiles are scum and ALL of them deserve to be hanged. End of!

The scale with which these gangs are operating suggests that they are known to others who are not actively involved.

So I’m not trying to say that all paedos are Pakistani. But there are gangs operating nation wide, and there must be others covering for them, or at the very least looking the other way.

I don't think we're talking about Pakistani wives colluding in the sexual abuse of their daughters"

Where did I say that? I was talking about a personal experience. The nonce is white and so is his wife. Only the gods know who else was involved in that case, or had an inkling of what was happening? I don’t know. What I personally believe is that when someone is persistently attacking a child or children, others will at least have suspicions and say nothing.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Tommy Robinson after his previous undertakings can’t redeem himself. He simply cannot repackage himself as a journo as he can’t even report within the law.

He should stick to his Sunbed shops and sink into obscurity.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Oh fucking hell, how many more times!

ALL paedophiles are scum and ALL of them deserve to be hanged. End of!

The scale with which these gangs are operating suggests that they are known to others who are not actively involved.

So I’m not trying to say that all paedos are Pakistani. But there are gangs operating nation wide, and there must be others covering for them, or at the very least looking the other way.

I don't think we're talking about Pakistani wives colluding in the sexual abuse of their daughters

You were talking about family members turning a blind eye to paedophiles, there are usually unique reasons why that happens. Plus you've produced zero evidence that the Pakistani community do the same..it's simply something you want to believe in order to promote disharmony.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

He's no journalist.

Bona fide journalists recognise the reporting restrictions imposed by a judge.

They know that disobeying an order from the bench almost certainly ends up with time in the clink.

Everyone posts stuff on the internet. It doesn't make you a journalist.

No, he is simply the white man's Anjem Chowdary.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

No, he is simply the white man's Anjem Chowdary.

..and you couldn't eat a whole one of either!

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"He's no journalist.

Bona fide journalists recognise the reporting restrictions imposed by a judge.

They know that disobeying an order from the bench almost certainly ends up with time in the clink.

Everyone posts stuff on the internet. It doesn't make you a journalist.

No, he is simply the white man's Anjem Chowdary.

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That's not true either, chowdary was given prison for inciting violence, contempt of court is not even similar.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi."

Not when he breaks the law he's not..

If he were to campaign in all cases not just those where the alleged perpetrators are only of the Muslim faith without prejudicing ongoing trials and therefore putting the right of victims to justice then his actions would be looked at in that context but he doesn't..

He is only targeting Muslims and the only reason is he is a racist, end of..

To pretend otherwise is nonsense but as usual on here his like minded types will stand by him regardless..

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

That's not true either, chowdary was given prison for inciting violence, contempt of court is not even similar."

I suspect the effect is the same - a talisman who engenders and validates hatred and violence towards those of a specific ethnicity.

Chowdary was convicted of being a recruiting agent for a proscribed organisation.

Robinson - a.k.a Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, Andrew McMaster and Paul Harris - was convicted of attempting to prejudice a trial.

Sky News yesterday: Challenged over whether he was attempting to demonise the Muslim community, he said: "To be honest with you, I don't care if it incites fear

He said: "If I believe I'm morally right then I'm not bothered about what your law says."

The white man's Anjem Chowdary.

Both nasty pieces of work.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi.

Not when he breaks the law he's not..

He is only targeting Muslims and the only reason is he is a racist, end of..

To pretend otherwise is nonsense but as usual on here his like minded types will stand by him regardless.. "
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Doesn't make any difference at all whether he incudes, excludes or just bangs on solely about Islam.

Comparing him to Isis was and is ridiculous.

There's no law that stops the ridicule of Islam no more than a law that stops the ridicule of Christianity or the church of England, all ideas once put out there are up for inquiry.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If any child becomes a victim of abuse - whether your own, or anyone's - due to his degradation of the UK legal system and disruption of a criminal case, it will become clearer to more that his agenda is for himself and not for children.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi.

Not when he breaks the law he's not..

He is only targeting Muslims and the only reason is he is a racist, end of..

To pretend otherwise is nonsense but as usual on here his like minded types will stand by him regardless.. .

Doesn't make any difference at all whether he incudes, excludes or just bangs on solely about Islam.

Comparing him to Isis was and is ridiculous.

There's no law that stops the ridicule of Islam no more than a law that stops the ridicule of Christianity or the church of England, all ideas once put out there are up for inquiry."

He and his like are totally like isis, they all spread hatred and division..

He is a racist and your defending him..

Were not talking about ridiculing a religion and you know it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi.

Not when he breaks the law he's not..

He is only targeting Muslims and the only reason is he is a racist, end of..

To pretend otherwise is nonsense but as usual on here his like minded types will stand by him regardless.. .

Doesn't make any difference at all whether he incudes, excludes or just bangs on solely about Islam.

Comparing him to Isis was and is ridiculous.

There's no law that stops the ridicule of Islam no more than a law that stops the ridicule of Christianity or the church of England, all ideas once put out there are up for inquiry.

He and his like are totally like isis, they all spread hatred and division..

He is a racist and your defending him..

Were not talking about ridiculing a religion and you know it..

He is the big bad wolf that is there to make sure that people who are racially aware are treated like monsters. I’d push him over a cliff tomorrow...

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi.

Not when he breaks the law he's not..

He is only targeting Muslims and the only reason is he is a racist, end of..

To pretend otherwise is nonsense but as usual on here his like minded types will stand by him regardless.. .

Doesn't make any difference at all whether he incudes, excludes or just bangs on solely about Islam.

Comparing him to Isis was and is ridiculous.

There's no law that stops the ridicule of Islam no more than a law that stops the ridicule of Christianity or the church of England, all ideas once put out there are up for inquiry.

He and his like are totally like isis, they all spread hatred and division..

He is a racist and your defending him..

Were not talking about ridiculing a religion and you know it..

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Again your making assertions, there's hate laws in this country (I'm not a fan) but there here, he hasn't been prosecuted for them so spreading hate is subjective on your part.

He could be a racist, frankly I couldn't give a shit if he is or isn't, I'm defending his right to say something you don't like.

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By *avidnsa69Man
over a year ago

Essex

"In my eyes and opinion he has been a voice for the victims unless you have been there don't judge"

Is he f%ck a voice for the victims. He is a despicable scumbag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You may not like what he says but he's entitled to say it.

Just like I don't like much corbyn says doesn't mean he's the stasi.

Not when he breaks the law he's not..

He is only targeting Muslims and the only reason is he is a racist, end of..

To pretend otherwise is nonsense but as usual on here his like minded types will stand by him regardless.. .

Doesn't make any difference at all whether he incudes, excludes or just bangs on solely about Islam.

Comparing him to Isis was and is ridiculous.

There's no law that stops the ridicule of Islam no more than a law that stops the ridicule of Christianity or the church of England, all ideas once put out there are up for inquiry.

He and his like are totally like isis, they all spread hatred and division..

He is a racist and your defending him..

Were not talking about ridiculing a religion and you know it..

Again your making assertions, there's hate laws in this country (I'm not a fan) but there here, he hasn't been prosecuted for them so spreading hate is subjective on your part.

He could be a racist, frankly I couldn't give a shit if he is or isn't, I'm defending his right to say something you don't like."

I don’t give a rats arse whether he is racist or not. I still don’t like him and have explained why. Yes he has a right to say whatever he likes. But he is no great orator, and if his leadership of the EDL was so great, how was it that at every demo people’s were drinking lager and pissing in the street?

The only people who they are going to attract support from, are chavs and wannabe football hooligans. They will never have any influence with these tactics, they will just cost the tax payers hundreds of thousands of pounds for every demo or protest. Plus they will leave about as much mess behind them as you would find at an illegal traveller camp.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact of the matter is they are the ones who set up grooming gangs to groom young children and succeeded Young British children not there own.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

" The fact of the matter is they are the ones who set up grooming gangs to groom young children and succeeded Young British children not there own. "

Crikey, not sure it would be any better if they groomed 'their own'!

Don't you think they're opportunists, choosing the easiest abuse path?

I bet none of the victims were the daughters of 'British', doctors or solicitors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many of the gang were british. Just not white.

If you read around this (I forget the sources, it was covered in a previous thread) they picked on victims because they were vunerable.

What we call true paedophile rings (those who select victims because they are young) are white.

There is an issue here, and it does seem there are some groups (most likely those from parts of pakistan it seems) who seem to have a high representation in some types of sex crime. And this shouldn’t be swept under the carpet.

But it’s not a Muslim thing. Or an Asian thing. Many use a broad brush by accident or ignorance. Others do it from a place of malice. The latter should be a cause for concern as they feed on the fears of the former.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

" The fact of the matter is they are the ones who set up grooming gangs to groom young children and succeeded Young British children not there own.

Crikey, not sure it would be any better if they groomed 'their own'!

Don't you think they're opportunists, choosing the easiest abuse path?

I bet none of the victims were the daughters of 'British', doctors or solicitors."
I think most sex crimes against children are done by a family member or a close friend so if it was easiest abuse path as you say that would be the case they target young white girls because they see them as second class and it’s also race crime and trust me if they were the children of doctors or solicitors this would of been stamped out yrs ago

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Many of the gang were british. Just not white.

If you read around this (I forget the sources, it was covered in a previous thread) they picked on victims because they were vunerable.

What we call true paedophile rings (those who select victims because they are young) are white.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So one question I have about all this is if you look at percentages of kids who are vulnerable by racial grouping what would you be most likely to find? It seems obvious to me that there will be a higher percentage of vulnerable white kids as a reflection of both their proportion of the general population and because most Islamic girls are not allowed the freedom to roam as their parents are more concerned (for good or bad

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"So one question I have about all this is if you look at percentages of kids who are vulnerable by racial grouping what would you be most likely to find? It seems obvious to me that there will be a higher percentage of vulnerable white kids as a reflection of both their proportion of the general population and because most Islamic girls are not allowed the freedom to roam as their parents are more concerned (for good or bad

) in knowing where they are and what they are doing. Equally there are many young men from various ethnic groups who have found that it’s easier for them to find a way of existing by taking a criminal path as they find their progress blocked by petty racism in “normal” life. I am certainly not excusing the path they chose to take but it is not because of their race, it is because they are criminals who are picking on vulnerable children whose parents have either abdicated responsibility or lost control or contact with their children. One should also consider that some children have mental health needs that are not being addressed as CAMS budgets are shrinking and they have no one to turn to. "
firstly there parents are more concerned do you mean than white parents wow maybe we want our kids to have a life and spend time woth there mates they get a raw deal as it is on here ( sat on there arses on there mobiles ) should we lock them in ? Secondly does petty racism turn men into kiddy fiddlers I’m sure there’s Asian and black guys on fab who have face way worse than petty racism thinking wtf are you talking about you sound like a defense lawyer for these low life scum

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over a year ago

Don’t think I do actually and don’t try and lay that on me as a way of justifying your position. A friend of my son was abused for three years by a local kiddie fiddler and it has destroyed the poor boys self confidence. He’s been lucky as he was a nice middle class kid whose parents managed to get him a lot of post traumatic support and counselling but he’ll never completely get over it. His attacker got put away for ten years (probably 5 with good behaviour) and guess what he was white so grooming happens whatever the gender colour or creed. Think on

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Don’t think I do actually and don’t try and lay that on me as a way of justifying your position. A friend of my son was abused for three years by a local kiddie fiddler and it has destroyed the poor boys self confidence. He’s been lucky as he was a nice middle class kid whose parents managed to get him a lot of post traumatic support and counselling but he’ll never completely get over it. His attacker got put away for ten years (probably 5 with good behaviour) and guess what he was white so grooming happens whatever the gender colour or creed. Think on"
so do you blame his parents for abdicating responsibility or not knowing we’re he was or keeping in contact then you need to read back what you posted mate you made out it was the fault of the parents then posted that it just doesn’t ad up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

some of the Muslim grooming gangs are British but they still have that belief that having sex with a child is okay either way the crimes they have committed and life's they have ruined is inhumane. Well done to Tommy Robbinson for all he's spoke out about the Muslim grooming gangs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's got nothing to do with how well child victimis treated some of the victims wasn't from poor backgrounds or even vulnerable they was targeted, abused then threatened so they couldn't turn to there parents. I am stating this as its a fact I know regardless of what other nasty kiddy fiddlers have done Muslim grooming gangs are the worst and still exist.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I am stating this as its a fact I know regardless of what other nasty kiddy fiddlers have done Muslim grooming gangs are the worst and still exist. "

You probably need to have a conversation with all victims of child abuse before declaring matters of opinion as 'fact'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are"

Nobody is a supporter of grooming gangs, including other Muslims.

These gangs are no more or less "scum" than any other paedophile. The majority of whom are white men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are"

Why can’t you be against race hate and paedos? Surely 99% of people are against both, why does it have to be one or the other?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are

Why can’t you be against race hate and paedos? Surely 99% of people are against both, why does it have to be one or the other?"

It doesn't, unless you've decided to view the world through the prism of race war.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are

Why can’t you be against race hate and paedos? Surely 99% of people are against both, why does it have to be one or the other?"
it does sometimes read people are one step away from saying keep our groomers british.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are

Why can’t you be against race hate and paedos? Surely 99% of people are against both, why does it have to be one or the other?

It doesn't, unless you've decided to view the world through the prism of race war."

Well of course it doesn’t. But the other poster seemed to suggest that you either support TR and his race hate agenda or you support grooming gangs. There is no link here what-so-ever.

Robinson just put the two together, to try gain sympathy for his agenda and so that people like the above poster can start accusing non-racsists of horrific stuff.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It's got nothing to do with how well child victimis treated some of the victims wasn't from poor backgrounds or even vulnerable they was targeted, abused then threatened so they couldn't turn to there parents. I am stating this as its a fact I know regardless of what other nasty kiddy fiddlers have done Muslim grooming gangs are the worst and still exist. "

What worse than white kids television presenter kiddy fiddlers ?

You are overtly racist with a distorted view !

Paedophilia is abhorrent. End of story

All victims and vulnerable children need support

All culprits need the greatest condemnation

That's it simple

Any group targeting generalisation or judgment of huge groups, of humans is a reflection of distorted thinking and bias stupidity !

Next with your overt judgment and stereo typing you will be suggesting every Catholic priest is guilty and every BBC presenter

You are idioticly and with the only reason being pure racist or skin colour ist or just I follow a dumb crowd ist suggesting that non white people following a certain religion are somehow worse paedophiles than normal good ole white ones

Tsk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don’t think I do actually and don’t try and lay that on me as a way of justifying your position. A friend of my son was abused for three years by a local kiddie fiddler and it has destroyed the poor boys self confidence. He’s been lucky as he was a nice middle class kid whose parents managed to get him a lot of post traumatic support and counselling but he’ll never completely get over it. His attacker got put away for ten years (probably 5 with good behaviour) and guess what he was white so grooming happens whatever the gender colour or creed. Think on so do you blame his parents for abdicating responsibility or not knowing we’re he was or keeping in contact then you need to read back what you posted mate you made out it was the fault of the parents then posted that it just doesn’t ad up "

Well you know what, I don’t blame his parents, they feel guilty enough as it is and you know as well as I do that most Islamic girls are kept on a short leash whether you think that’s a good or bad thing for society or them as children. Many parents don’t choose to abandon responsibility but can’t find a way to connect with their kids and so the kids get preyed on by criminals not by races. The only argument that holds any validity in this case is that Rochdale social services and the local Police were not working together to stop what happened and that’s it - any other argument is racist bigotry and doesn’t stand up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What worse than white kids television presenter kiddy fiddlers ?

You are overtly racist with a distorted view !

Paedophilia is abhorrent. End of story

All victims and vulnerable children need support

All culprits need the greatest condemnation

That's it simple

Any group targeting generalisation or judgment of huge groups, of humans is a reflection of distorted thinking and bias stupidity !

Next with your overt judgment and stereo typing you will be suggesting every Catholic priest is guilty and every BBC presenter

Tsk

I couldn’t have put it better

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Given men (and it is overwhelmingly men) of various ethnicities who commit child sex crimes do so in rough proportion to their share of the population it's bleeding obvious to anyone not blinded by race hate that paedophilia is not a problem related to any particular ethnic group.

Hence if you focus one particular group of paedos defined by their race you are, by definition, a racist.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

I don't think it's quite the same but yes, I find the whole Jeremy Corbyn thing almost as worrying and cringeworthy too. However that doesn't take away from the Tony Robbins populist hate messages.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Have you ever seen any of the Nuremberg rally film reels? It is the same appeal to the most base of our instincts to attack everything we do not know or deviates from what we perceive as normal.

The very same methods. If Robinson pursued all child abusers he'd have a point. His mission is a race based hatred wrapped in cloak of social responsibilities."

Especially those from EDL who have been convicted of child abuse. You never hear him banging on about them.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

How does he make them feel like they have a voice? You realise he is only famous because he was locked up for trying *to undermine* a legal case against a grooming gang?

If I was in their shoes, I'd be pretty fucking livid that this hooligan decided to try to scupper my chance of getting justice just so he could further his hate crimes.

-Matt"

So true.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I've spoken to enough what are you a Muslim groomer supporter #scum they are"

Thanks for that objective, coherent contribution to the discussion!

I'm afraid I won't be deterred by the right wing version of political correctness!

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

glasgow

He's never 'outed' muslim grooming gangs that's bollocks. And he's only a voice for abuse victims when the attackers are muslim. He's defended abusers and stood by them when they've been members of the edl. He's a fraud in more ways than one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gives me the creeps reading this

thread, its obvious why certain entities are attacking Tommy Robinson...

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Gives me the creeps reading this

thread, its obvious why certain entities are attacking Tommy Robinson..."

It's also equally as obvious why some 'entities' support him.

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

I am black and as someone who has many muslim friends I hated Tommy Robinson with a passion. Until someone asked me to explain what exactly I hated about him, so I did my research and was blown out by what I found out.

People who say he is racist,, bigot etc are just lazy to find out about his cause and rely on the fake news media.

Difference between other paedophiles and grooming gangs is that until very recently police and authorities ignored grooming gangs because they didnt want to be called racist. No one stood up for these hundreds of little girls until Tommy Robinson came on the scene and his reward was being called racist.

Tommy has never said anything racist if you call him racist then explain (within context) what exactly he said.

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By *Cocksucker84Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Tommy Robinson did not out muslim grooming gangs. This is a lie. Tommy Robinson has defended his mates who are convicted paedophiles. This is the truth. Tommy Robinson is on video joking about r*ape. This is the truth. Tommy Robinson has a criminal past rooted in extreme violence. This is also the truth.

All r*ape and abuse is disgusting and abhorrent and should be treated as the most serious of crimes. It is always an extreme violation of somebody else's fundamental human rights. We can not cherry-pick which forms of abuse we find disgusting and this is exactly what he does. That he throws the term 'Muslim paedophile' about whenever he talks about these crimes is with the specific aim of planting the seed in the heads of his followers that Muslims are paedophiles or abusers. As someone else has said, the Bible is also sketchy on this shit. We never hear him balling and shouting outside of courts where non-muslims are being tried for these crimes.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I am black and as someone who has many muslim friends I hated Tommy Robinson with a passion.

Are your Muslim friends paedophiles? According to the feeble minded if you're a Muslim or associate with Muslims you must be a paedophile or condone it.

This is the problem with Robinson's philosophy it demonises a whole culture of people, providing succour to the racists out there, whether he is one or not.

Incidentally this stuff about the police fearing being branded racists if they pursued the perpetrators is nonsense, it's an excuse created by lazy coppers and poor managers within the criminal justice and social care systems...I've worked with them.

If there were any truth in it Muslims wouldnt be over represented in prisons, the police would be too scared to charge them with anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Have you ever seen any of the Nuremberg rally film reels? It is the same appeal to the most base of our instincts to attack everything we do not know or deviates from what we perceive as normal.

The very same methods. If Robinson pursued all child abusers he'd have a point. His mission is a race based hatred wrapped in cloak of social responsibilities."

This is kind of where I agree with him on two points; the fact that a minority of the Islamic community engage in these activities and that a minority do not wish to harmonize with western culture.

That said I'd never support him. Simply because he goes after this one group publicly. He knows how to whip up a crowd to see that one problem, but not the others, and then himself and his followers have no clue about how to discuss sensible ways to encourage integration and correctly punish those who blatantly violate our Laws.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

I don't like bigots, football(ers) or their thugs: therefore I don't like EDL.

That makes me a nice person, doesn't it?

I don't like homophobia, antisemitism, sharia law, a lack of womens' rights, halal food (Google Halal slaughter), faces veils (It's a body language barrier and it stops deaf people from lip reading). I've also met a couple of muslims who were holocaust deniers. These are the things that that student unions need to discuss on a 1 by 1 basis without being polarised. No religion, state or culture is above critisim.

That makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

We live in a former Catholic country that can broadcast Father Ted, but not Rabbi Ted or Imran Ted for fear of offending Middle Eastern snow flakes.

Yes, I am an atheist.

I await my damnation and fatwa.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't like bigots, football(ers) or their thugs: therefore I don't like EDL.

That makes me a nice person, doesn't it?

That makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

We live in a former Catholic country that can broadcast Father Ted, but not Rabbi Ted or Imran Ted for fear of offending Middle Eastern snow flakes.

Yes, I am an atheist.

I await my damnation and fatwa.

Same page as you. Ignorance and bigotry influences all groups, religious, ethnic, race or nations.

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

In 2010 Tommy Robinson being interviewed on BBC said exactly that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

In 2010 Tommy Robinson being interviewed on BBC said exactly that. "

Take a look at my earlier post and you’ll see I mentioned that already. I don’t have any time for Tommy Robinson as he has proved himself to be a racist thug in the past and he’s still peddling hatred whatever guise he portrays himself in (journalist?) these days. I would defend anybody’s right to free speech but equally I would portray a lying nasty piece of work like him as he is, an opportunist power hungry thug, and not pretend he’s speaking for the silent majority.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

In 2010 Tommy Robinson being interviewed on BBC said exactly that. "

It didn't quite say that, but did say that race was an issue.

It also said that the victims weren't believed because they generally seen as "chavs" and criminals (many did indeed have criminal records). In other words respectable middle class people discounted what they were told when the people doing the telling were considered to be members of the underclass.

Why is the class issue never mentioned?

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"I don't like bigots, football(ers) or their thugs: therefore I don't like EDL.

That makes me a nice person, doesn't it?

That makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

We live in a former Catholic country that can broadcast Father Ted, but not Rabbi Ted or Imran Ted for fear of offending Middle Eastern snow flakes.

Yes, I am an atheist.

I await my damnation and fatwa.

Same page as you. Ignorance and bigotry influences all groups, religious, ethnic, race or nations."

and I forgot to mention the press and TV too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

In 2010 Tommy Robinson being interviewed on BBC said exactly that. "

I remember scanning thorough this report the last time this was discussed and iirc there seemed to be a feeling this was the case yet no one said they themesleves didn’t deal with it because of race and fear of racism. Its a long ol document to go through again, so happy to be corrected if you have the quotes.

The report also put doubt to the beliefs of this being racially activated crime, or no Muslims being affected.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

Managers within these statutory systems have a legal obligation to carry out their duties. Claiming they're afraid to do so for fear of being 'branded racist' is an obvious excuse which anyone who has experience of these systems will recognise, it's a playing of the reverse race card that's an immediate show stopper and an excuse the general public will readily accept.

If not perhaps you could explain why the prison population has an over representation of Muslims? Do you think this 'fear' is selective ?

The fact is they were incompetent and ineffective whilst children were being abused...just as those abused in social care for decades have been ignored by the people tasked with protecting them without a Muslim being in sight, what excuse have they used for that?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

If not perhaps you could explain why the prison population has an over representation of Muslims? Do you think this 'fear' is selective ?

Spot on

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Why does nobody use the term Pakistani? What are they scared of?

...In the test match today, England scored a century over the Asian team for the second time...(What bloody team was that then?)

Asian and Muslim is just too vague.

Aljazeera uses the time INDOPAK to describe something that's Indian and Pakistani in their news reports. Just like ANGLOAMERICAN/ANGLOFRENCH, gets used over here.

No one ever said:

Fancy a takeaway tonight?

Yeah.

What do you fancy, Chinese or Indian?

Asian.

For fuck's sake, which one?

Grow some balls world and accurately say what country or culture somebody is from.

Snow flakes are everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who’s afraid of Pakistani? Many have called out it’s british-Pakistanis who are the main perpetrators. Although we should be saying Pakistani heritage. Otherwise we down play the Britishness.

My observation is those who use the adjective Muslim tend to be those who are pro Tommy*

*not proven to be statistically significant.

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes

Example of something he said which is racist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes

Example of something he said which is racist?

I don’t really know what you’re saying here but I have expressed my opinion four or five times on this thread and I cannot be arsed to dick around going back over what I have said - look back at his EDL stuff and you’ll find plenty there. If you want to play devils advocate do so by all means but I am not going to waste any more breath on it as boredom has set in now.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Clearly you didnt read the Rotheram report.

The findings of that report clearly stated the reason why these crimes were not being dealt with is because the authorities feared being branded racist. Do you then disagree with those findings.

In 2010 Tommy Robinson being interviewed on BBC said exactly that.

It didn't quite say that, but did say that race was an issue.

Why is the class issue never mentioned? "

It also said that in the year that the grooming gangs were charged, white males still committed 70 odd percent of sexual offences in that locality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have they formed gangs to act out abhorrent crimes on kids sending them around the UK like a bit of meat to be used abuse is evil no matter what race the perpetrator is. The public needed to know about the brainwashing Muslim grooming gangs and a lot of them are British citizens now through marrying there British cousins to gain entry into the UK. Then they exploited young kids disgusting in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If he's racist maybe its because Muslim grooming gangs groomed his family member. Many of the victims are now racist too are they to blame for that?

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

What did EDL have to say about Yorkshire's shame, Jimmy Saville? British, white and an evil pervert.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"What did EDL have to say about Yorkshire's shame, Jimmy Saville? British, white and an evil pervert. "

And of course some members of the Catholic church ?

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over a year ago

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"If he's racist maybe its because Muslim grooming gangs groomed his family member. Many of the victims are now racist too are they to blame for that? "

I'm a middle aged black man who doesnt hate white people because of racist experiences I've had through my life time, only an imbecile thinks that argument has any credibility.

In fact extending your logic Pakistanis have many reasons to dislike white people having endured 'paki bashing' during the 70's & 80's, the popular post match pastime of d*unken white football hooligans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a shame they endured football hooligans whilst they was plotting how to groom kids in a gang and I am not white

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"What a shame they endured football hooligans whilst they was plotting how to groom kids in a gang and I am not white"

Do you think all Catholics are plotting to abuse underage boys?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldn't tell you but maybe the priest's that did it years ago was many Muslim's are still doing there abhorrent crimes though that's a fact. Had enough of this thread

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I couldn't tell you but maybe the priest's that did it years ago was many Muslim's are still doing there abhorrent crimes though that's a fact. Had enough of this thread "

Many years ago?

A) Time passing does not negate a crime

And

B) It still happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it oh well Ive nothing more to say on all this apart from Tommy Robinson doesn't deserve to be slated but Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs do I hope all those who are convicted have shocking times in jail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does it oh well Ive nothing more to say on all this apart from Tommy Robinson doesn't deserve to be slated but Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs do I hope all those who are convicted have shocking times in jail."
you can slate both the perpetrators of the horrific crimes AND a man who could have jeopardised the victims seeing justice and avoiding any time in jail, shocking or not.

Indeed, one may see the two being the same side of the coin, not opposites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know that you don't have to be racist to be be anti- the grooming gangs?

Both are blights on society.

Tommy Robinson is only a racist, he brings in issues of grooming gangs to propagate his agenda, he doesn't give a fuck about anything else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what is it with tommy Robinson fanboys?.... they stupidly attempt to use paedophilia as a trigger for their abject racist agenda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What causes grown up, white men to treat Tommy Robinson like some kind of Messiah?

Comparing tommy to corbyn shows how pathetic the right wing clowns are .

100% bog standard response from Centaur, and a typical alt right approach.

Deflect, or try to win via semantics."

Everyone loses when society divides itself up into these polarised ideological sides. Look at the vitriol and pigheadedness in this thread alone.

It's a mess!

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

Example of something he said which is racist?

Exactly its your opinion and thats all it is. Guess what it was my opinion too until facts slapped me in the face. I did look at his EDL stuff, plenty of things he said against white supremecists including him being charged for violence against Nazis trying to join the EDL.

I deal with facts now you carry on dealing with opinions.

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

"What did EDL have to say about Yorkshire's shame, Jimmy Saville? British, white and an evil pervert.

And of course some members of the Catholic church ?

The police and authorities were dealing with that bunch so EDL didnt need to get involved. EDL was only getting involved in crimes that the media, police and authorities were ignoring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What did EDL have to say about Yorkshire's shame, Jimmy Saville? British, white and an evil pervert.

And of course some members of the Catholic church ?

The police and authorities were dealing with that bunch so EDL didnt need to get involved. EDL was only getting involved in crimes that the media, police and authorities were ignoring.

Tony Robinson was arrested covering a trial so prey tell how the police/authorities ignoring it???? Terrible excuse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What did EDL have to say about Yorkshire's shame, Jimmy Saville? British, white and an evil pervert.

And of course some members of the Catholic church ?

The police and authorities were dealing with that bunch so EDL didnt need to get involved. EDL was only getting involved in crimes that the media, police and authorities were ignoring.

"
they were dealing ? These crimes were more historic than the Rotherham case. And were (are) carries out over a longer period.

Likewise the abuse taking place in football clubs.

I’m never sure what the EDLs role in exposing the Rotherham (and similar) rings were, other than after the fact reporting (happy to be shown ignorant here) but there seems to be an absence of evidece showing their crusade wasn’t at least partially race motivated.

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

Tony Robinson was arrested covering a trial so prey tell how the police/authorities ignoring it???? Terrible excuse"

Covering a trial which had reporting restrictions. I wonder how many trials of priests, celebrities and white peadophiles have reporting restrictions? None.

Also remember he was arrested for reading what was already reported on the BBC website. Should the BBC journalist been arrested too?

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

The EDL was founded in 2009 long before Rotherham came to light. From its inception they marched in high risk towns and cities against grooming gangs, forced marriages and FGM.

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

The EDL was founded in 2009 long before Rotherham came to light. From its inception they marched in high risk towns and cities against grooming gangs, forced marriages and FGM.

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort. "

Well who ever the fuck knew that the EDL was a social movement and not a bunch of racist thugs eh..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The EDL was founded in 2009 long before Rotherham came to light. From its inception they marched in high risk towns and cities against grooming gangs, forced marriages and FGM.

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort. "

Concerns were raised in 1997. A person who raised the concerns and helped set up risky business got their MBE in 2016.

Must admit I’ve never seen anyone position EDL marches being in solidarity with some of the (imo abhorrent) parts of some Muslim cultures. It’s good to know they’ve be cool with Muslims if these areas were addressed. Tho they may need to work on making sure they get their message over better.

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"His fame isn't for hatered of Muslims but for more speaking out to the public about the disgusting dirty grooming gangs around the UK who are mainly Muslims. I'm 100% for Tommy Robinson "

So why does he say fuck all about the institutionalised paedophilia and it's cover up in the Catholic Church? It's almost like it isn't about abused children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The EDL was founded in 2009 long before Rotherham came to light. From its inception they marched in high risk towns and cities against grooming gangs, forced marriages and FGM.

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort. "

The edl were exposing FGM? Ok if you say so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are rumours that Robinson is not his real name, and that Yaxley - Lennon is a Zionist who just hates Muslims.

Now the people I heard saying this are not always what one would describe as reliable. They might have read about his other names, put two and two together, and made five.

It is plausible though...

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

The EDL was founded in 2009 long before Rotherham came to light. From its inception they marched in high risk towns and cities against grooming gangs, forced marriages and FGM.

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort. "

2009 is recent history in the grooming scandal, Rotherham was exposed long before that.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The EDL was founded in 2009 long before Rotherham came to light. From its inception they marched in high risk towns and cities against grooming gangs, forced marriages and FGM.

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort. "

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

So the EDL was trying to highlight these issues before main stream media caught on and were branded racists for their effort. "

Leigh McMillan must be a closet Muslim.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Tony Robinson was arrested covering a trial so prey tell how the police/authorities ignoring it???? Terrible excuse

Covering a trial which had reporting restrictions. I wonder how many trials of priests, celebrities and white peadophiles have reporting restrictions? None.

Also remember he was arrested for reading what was already reported on the BBC website. Should the BBC journalist been arrested too? "

Actually a lot of cases do have reporting restrictions on them... the reason we know about these is that the restrictions are lifted AFTER the case and trial have been concluded

And remember this is the 2nd time he has been up on the charges of contempt of court in relation to breaking reporting restrictions so you think he would have learned his lessons after being given a suspended sentence and being explicitly warned not to do it again after case 1

But the idiot is an idiot!

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"If he's racist maybe its because Muslim grooming gangs groomed his family member. Many of the victims are now racist too are they to blame for that?

I'm a middle aged black man who doesnt hate white people because of racist experiences I've had through my life time, only an imbecile thinks that argument has any credibility.

And Indians too, for the partition of India's bloodshed that killed so many on both sides.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tony Robinson was arrested covering a trial so prey tell how the police/authorities ignoring it???? Terrible excuse

Covering a trial which had reporting restrictions. I wonder how many trials of priests, celebrities and white peadophiles have reporting restrictions? None.

Also remember he was arrested for reading what was already reported on the BBC website. Should the BBC journalist been arrested too?

Actually a lot of cases do have reporting restrictions on them... the reason we know about these is that the restrictions are lifted AFTER the case and trial have been concluded

But the idiot is an idiot! "

True. My late friend who worked on a lot of the child grooming cases for the cps abhorred Robinson’s tactics as it put cases against paedophiles in jeapordy and as for the bbc - they have a range of lawyers and professional contacts to help them decide what they can publish without being in contempt of court. As Fabio said - idiotic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if Farage is grooming tommy for greater things.

Much like senator palpatine and Anakin sky walker.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Has he been arrested as often as Jeremy Corbyn yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tommys the voice of the tens of thousands of vunerable white children and their parents whom have suffered this evil in our midst....

Our voices go unheard

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Tommys the voice of the tens of thousands of vunerable white children and their parents whom have suffered this evil in our midst....

Our voices go unheard"

You have been told a million times not to exaggerate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why do people like you seek to suppress the voice of those that have endured this evil in our midst...

This thread gives me the creeps the way it reviles those that speak out against such evil in our midst

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By *revvorMan
over a year ago

near(ish)

Tony Robinson was arrested covering a trial so prey tell how the police/authorities ignoring it???? Terrible excuse

Covering a trial which had reporting restrictions. I wonder how many trials of priests, celebrities and white peadophiles have reporting restrictions? None.

Also remember he was arrested for reading what was already reported on the BBC website. Should the BBC journalist been arrested too?

Actually a lot of cases do have reporting restrictions on them... the reason we know about these is that the restrictions are lifted AFTER the case and trial have been concluded

But the idiot is an idiot! "

Hahaha lets pull out the fact sheet shall we? Or better yet you pull out the fact sheet perhaps a little self research might earn you some objective knowledge. Type 1 peadophilia committed by around 84% muslims and Type 2 peadophilia committed by almost 100% white.

Which cases do you think have more reporting restrictions?

Go on do some research and what do you think is the reason?

Did he commit the same offence twice, we will find out when he goes back on trial. The appeal judge certainly believes something wasnt done right during his trial early this year.

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