FabSwingers.com forum: The anti red tape thread

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The technical notes (by their nature) focus on the negative impacts of brexit, and while in many cases deals and or legislation can be used to get back to today’s position l, this is an increase in red tape.

Can those more au fait with these things/the case for brexit outline the immediate loss of red tape which will benefit us.

I don’t mean ability to do trade deals (as that’s long burn) but those things we will notice immediately after leaving in the event of no deal.

Thanks !

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

Isn’t this a bit of a trick question?

Regardless of what people’s views are and if they can come up with any examples (good luck! I’ve asked before), the whole point of the EU Withdawl Bill is to transcribe EU regulations and directives into U.K. law, such that the day after we leave there are exactly the same legalities in place as the day before. Regardless of outcome of any negotiations (or lack of) on the withdrawal itself. I guess as it gives provision for U.K. ministers to ‘correct’ any EU legislation that doesn’t ‘function correctly’ there could be some wriggle room there to drop some ‘red tape’. But that doesn’t seem to be the intent of the provision.

-Matt

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

To be fair Britain (although many think otherwise) does quite well in the red tape stakes when compared to other EU countries.

One example would be to try and buy/sell a used car in Spain.

The paperwork is either a nightmare (and a full days work) if you try to do it yourself or bloody expensive if someone else does it for you. Plus tax either way.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"The technical notes (by their nature) focus on the negative impacts of brexit, and while in many cases deals and or legislation can be used to get back to today’s position l, this is an increase in red tape.

Can those more au fait with these things/the case for brexit outline the immediate loss of red tape which will benefit us.

I don’t mean ability to do trade deals (as that’s long burn) but those things we will notice immediately after leaving in the event of no deal.

Thanks !"

The simple answer is that it won’t...

Where there is paperwork you don’t have to do now if stuff is going to and from the eu27... you will if there is no deal on March 30th

That is why on a lot of the technical briefings the answer the government are giving is to get in contact with experts in this field

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I suspect they'll fairly swiftly bin off the Working Time Directive and look to make it easier to sack people for no reason, seeing as that seems to have been their long-standing agenda...

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"I suspect they'll fairly swiftly bin off the Working Time Directive and look to make it easier to sack people for no reason, seeing as that seems to have been their long-standing agenda...

Can you point me in the directon of any statement where the government has said they want to get rid of either law ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point is they will be able to soon if they so wish.

But the Government's stance on big business is "fuck them" so I don't see it changing anytime soon.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"The point is they will be able to soon if they so wish.

But the Government's stance on big business is "fuck them" so I don't see it changing anytime soon."

Can you point me to where they have said that either?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The point is they will be able to soon if they so wish.

But the Government's stance on big business is "fuck them" so I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Can you point me to where they have said that either? "

What a stupid question that is.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"I suspect they'll fairly swiftly bin off the Working Time Directive and look to make it easier to sack people for no reason, seeing as that seems to have been their long-standing agenda...

Can you point me in the directon of any statement where the government has said they want to get rid of either law ?"

Boris, Gove, Rees-Mogg and Liam Fox have all been quoted as saying they want to scrap the WTR post-Brexit and after commissioning the head of Wonga (no conflict of interest there at all

) to write a report (the Beecroft report) about how we need more flexibility and should be able to sack people easier because employment law is just a burden on business, it's obvious where their priorities lie...

This is all fairly uncontested stuff. I can dig around and find it if you want, but not at this hour.

However, you could save me the hassle and just accept what is common knowledge and really not that controversial a claim. I'm not sure if you're being pedantic or just genuinely curious?

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

On starting a new job, has anyone on here ever not been "given the option"* to opt out of the WTD?

*for "given the option" please understand this actually means "tick the box or we are not taking you on".

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"On starting a new job, has anyone on here ever not been "given the option"* to opt out of the WTD?

*for "given the option" please understand this actually means "tick the box or we are not taking you on"."

Quite a few companies incorporate it into the contract of employment, so that by signing their contract they are automatically opting out of it...

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