Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
 | Back to forum list |
| Back to Politics |
| Jump to newest |  |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Might be before that. ..." Doubtful but let’s see | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Political analyst suggested to me the following- cards are stacking up to remove him from office as Reagan was, heightend by his behaviour over McCain's death which showed him as petulant and behaviourally totally flawed. They anticipate he is to be asked to stand down with an offer of withdrawal of prosecution for various issues The likely scenario is he announces he has a need to return to his businesses, that he feels he has achieved his goals, and has set the country on a firm footing. ..usual guff. Interesting idea been about for a while but seems to be gathering momentum and galloping along now." As much as that would seem satisfying, aside from his overtly racist, xenophobic, sexaul assault enthusiasm, & attacks on the media. His policies are pretty standard Republican fare. Fuck the poor Tax breaks for the rich Relax financial industry regulations Bomb the Middle East to increase profit for the arms companies Fuck the environment Bog standard policies. With Mike Pence in charge, he would do all the same shit, but just be nicer about it. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"With his ground supporters trusting him so implicitly he could easily provoke internal meltdown even without the involvement of military etc via the Q theory. . I'd hazard an educated guess that the next few months are going to be tense, dangerous and full of drama. " The new book "Fear - Trump in the Whitehouse " will not help his cause! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Anti goverment militia groups surged under the Obama administration a thousand fold before Obama there were 149 after obama 1300 .There are now thousands of armed men in militia groups expecting a call to arms from trump .Interesting times .Lers see if these rednecjks are prepared to bleed for trump . "Bleed for Trump? I doubt it, kill now that is a different question. Fact is if I were black, brown or even had a really good tan I would be very worried in many parts of the USA. And in others I would be equally worried if I were white. I have a very nasty feeling that should the GOP loose the midterms there will be violence and in many parts of the US it will amount to racial cleansing with the racist in chief squatting in the Oval Office glorying in the bloodshed. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is getting a little febrile. I don't think Trump has any particular desire to be President other than as a vindictive act against Obama and to feed his own ego. He can declare victory at any time as any objective facts are unnecessary for him to do so. He has taken the opportunity to feather his nest whilst there. I think that he may well take an immunity from prosecution deal just before the country tips into recession, in large part due to his policies. He can then claim as true his "prediction" of economic disaster if he leaves office but he will have no intention of owning the diaster that he caused." He is deaf, dumb & blind to anything he doesn't like - but apparently he is good at "pin- ball"  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is getting a little febrile. I don't think Trump has any particular desire to be President other than as a vindictive act against Obama and to feed his own ego. He can declare victory at any time as any objective facts are unnecessary for him to do so. He has taken the opportunity to feather his nest whilst there. I think that he may well take an immunity from prosecution deal just before the country tips into recession, in large part due to his policies. He can then claim as true his "prediction" of economic disaster if he leaves office but he will have no intention of owning the diaster that he caused." Immunity from prosecution and resignation is the big hope but his ego is such that it'd have to be concerning something that would truly damage him personally before he'd accept. He is such a loose cannon that he might equally believe he was covered in Teflon and provoke civil war. He's shown how petty, childish, selfish, arrogant and self-promoting he is so anything is possible. Even bankrupting him might not be enough as he's bounced back from that many times. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"This is getting a little febrile. I don't think Trump has any particular desire to be President other than as a vindictive act against Obama and to feed his own ego. He can declare victory at any time as any objective facts are unnecessary for him to do so. He has taken the opportunity to feather his nest whilst there. I think that he may well take an immunity from prosecution deal just before the country tips into recession, in large part due to his policies. He can then claim as true his "prediction" of economic disaster if he leaves office but he will have no intention of owning the diaster that he caused." Nothing febrile from me. I have just listened to his words and watched his actions, in business, politics and the public part of his personal life. He is a coward, welcher, fraudster and gangster who is more than capable of doing anything he thinks he can get away with. He telegraphs his intentions long before he makes his move in order to calculate the risk based on others reactions and then he moves in increments to normalise the abnormal. He has told the USA and world he likes strong leaders where countries jump to do the leaders bidding. He has told us he likes the idea of President for life and would like to try it. He has told us he would suspend elections if he was going to lose. He has told his base to attack anyone that heckles him at rallies. He has warned of violence if the GOP loses the midterms. He has pardoned a peado sheriff who proudly ran a concentration camp in the desert. He has said that 5 innocent black men should have been hanged for r@pe after they were proven innocent by DNA evidence. At what point in your opinion does a body of evidence become large enough that expectation of negative outcomes stops being the fevered imaginings of the over-excitable and becomes logical extrapolation? Personally if I lived in the USA I would be preparing for trouble with a capital T. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Good lord, the Libtards are here in good voice today. Yes they are stupid yes they are wrong, but you can’t help thinking what cute babies they must have been. Coochie coochie coo!!! Sorry but the big bad wardrobe monster is going nowhere. So don’t go to bed without a torch "Excellent use of reasoning and logical argument. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
 | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Yeah! Thank you. I've gone from being a nazi to a liberal to a communist guerilla all on the same site. Result ". Sorry I was being sarcastic. You could try counting up all the old threads that declared, hey, this is it, trump/may/Brexit/Tories/Putin/EU I've got a feeling the end is near. How many do you think there'd be over say the last two years?. I reckon probably over a hundred and yet here we are with trump/may/Brexit/eu etc etc still in place. It's the very definition of Einsteins madness | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"The Supreme Court confirmation hearing is turning into a circus. " I laughed at this "Truthfulness under oath is not an optional qualification for a Supreme Court nominee." | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Good lord, the Libtards are here in good voice today. Yes they are stupid yes they are wrong, but you can’t help thinking what cute babies they must have been. Coochie coochie coo!!! Sorry but the big bad wardrobe monster is going nowhere. So don’t go to bed without a torch "Far right 101, Step 1. ridicule anyone who speaks out against racism. Step 2. Don’t make any actual points, don’t use any facts and don’t say anything with any substance or meaning. The only thing you forgot was to call people “snowflakes”. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Good lord, the Libtards are here in good voice today. Yes they are stupid yes they are wrong, but you can’t help thinking what cute babies they must have been. Coochie coochie coo!!! Sorry but the big bad wardrobe monster is going nowhere. So don’t go to bed without a torch
Far right 101,
Step 1. ridicule anyone who speaks out against racism.
Step 2. Don’t make any actual points, don’t use any facts and don’t say anything with any substance or meaning.
The only thing you forgot was to call people “snowflakes”."They don’t need actual arguments and facts. Don’t you know! They can win by calling you names and using catchphrases. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term."  ...and re-elected for a 2nd term. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Good lord, the Libtards are here in good voice today. Yes they are stupid yes they are wrong, but you can’t help thinking what cute babies they must have been. Coochie coochie coo!!! Sorry but the big bad wardrobe monster is going nowhere. So don’t go to bed without a torch
Far right 101,
Step 1. ridicule anyone who speaks out against racism.
Step 2. Don’t make any actual points, don’t use any facts and don’t say anything with any substance or meaning.
The only thing you forgot was to call people “snowflakes”.
They don’t need actual arguments and facts. Don’t you know! They can win by calling you names and using catchphrases."I refer you to the "How to argue thread" | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term. "He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!"No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law. Period. The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense. "Might be an idea to wait the outcome of the ongoing investigation before assuming the above Centaur.. Could end up with breaking federal laws on election funding being small beer if there is evidence of collusion with a hostile state.. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense. "No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted. There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they? We use a full-stop in the UK. All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington. They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice. Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!". Thank God you don't work in the legal department!. Your idea of proven and the laws idea of proven are well nothing like each other | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense.
No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted.
There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they?
We use a full-stop in the UK.
All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington.
They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice.
Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? ". Your as bad, in fact your even worse than her, you at least know that no charges means you innocent, when somebody brings charges, your still innocent?, but you seem to think it's fine to call somebody guilty without charges. So you've not been charged with let's say r#pe in fact you've not even had people find anything to suggest your a r#pist but I'm gonna call you one anyway, how do you feel? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense.
No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted.
There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they?
We use a full-stop in the UK.
All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington.
They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice.
Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? .
Your as bad, in fact your even worse than her, you at least know that no charges means you innocent, when somebody brings charges, your still innocent?, but you seem to think it's fine to call somebody guilty without charges.
So you've not been charged with let's say r#pe in fact you've not even had people find anything to suggest your a r#pist but I'm gonna call you one anyway, how do you feel?"I have not claimed that he is guilty. Wind your neck in. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Apparently the White House staff have been ignoring Trumps orders to protect America . God bless these people . "I have heard all sorts of names.. my original thought was Nikki Haley or dan coats... but my guess is that it is VP Pence  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"It wasn't a friend but a seasoned political analyst working in the US so he's a bit more in touch there than we are here. However, time will tell if Trump does go when he's told, and there seems to be no doubt it's when, not if, and the resulting fallout. I'd say 'interesting times' but 'unstable times' would be more accurate. " Well someone could "put him out of his misery" like that did with Kennedy or Lincoln - only thing is it would have to be bigger and better than anything before. I am suprised no one has had a "pot" at him already! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"It wasn't a friend but a seasoned political analyst working in the US so he's a bit more in touch there than we are here. However, time will tell if Trump does go when he's told, and there seems to be no doubt it's when, not if, and the resulting fallout. I'd say 'interesting times' but 'unstable times' would be more accurate. Well someone could "put him out of his misery" like that did with Kennedy or Lincoln - only thing is it would have to be bigger and better than anything before. I am suprised no one has had a "pot" at him already!" God no I don’t want him shot! Besides all you would end up doing is making a martyr of the idiot! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense.
No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted.
There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they?
We use a full-stop in the UK.
All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington.
They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice.
Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? .
Your as bad, in fact your even worse than her, you at least know that no charges means you innocent, when somebody brings charges, your still innocent?, but you seem to think it's fine to call somebody guilty without charges.
So you've not been charged with let's say r#pe in fact you've not even had people find anything to suggest your a r#pist but I'm gonna call you one anyway, how do you feel?
I have not claimed that he is guilty.
Wind your neck in.". I see your not keen on unfounded allegations  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"God no I don’t want him shot! Besides all you would end up doing is making a martyr of the idiot! " Not even a nice painful downward arse shot that just happens to remove his balls at the same time? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense.
No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted.
There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they?
We use a full-stop in the UK.
All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington.
They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice.
Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? .
Your as bad, in fact your even worse than her, you at least know that no charges means you innocent, when somebody brings charges, your still innocent?, but you seem to think it's fine to call somebody guilty without charges.
So you've not been charged with let's say r#pe in fact you've not even had people find anything to suggest your a r#pist but I'm gonna call you one anyway, how do you feel?
I have not claimed that he is guilty.
Wind your neck in."Way to go champ. You should add that one to your 'how to argue thread'. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense.
No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted.
There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they?
We use a full-stop in the UK.
All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington.
They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice.
Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? .
Your as bad, in fact your even worse than her, you at least know that no charges means you innocent, when somebody brings charges, your still innocent?, but you seem to think it's fine to call somebody guilty without charges.
So you've not been charged with let's say r#pe in fact you've not even had people find anything to suggest your a r#pist but I'm gonna call you one anyway, how do you feel?
I have not claimed that he is guilty.
Wind your neck in..
I see your not keen on unfounded allegations "I haven't made any nor have I suggested anything except that the investigation is concluded. Following that a decision can be made. Have you read something else old chap? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his associates are in serious legal trouble, or have immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He will be lucky to finish the first term of office, second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense.
No charges have been brought. They don't usually come until after an investigation has been conducted.
There may or may not be any. Nobody knows yet do they?
We use a full-stop in the UK.
All the other charges are simply a consequence of the investigation. Trump just appears to have been sat in a bit of a swamp before going to Washington.
They are not being brought by "dems and Trump haters". They are being brought by a Special Prosecutor appointed by the US Department of Justice.
Perhaps someone chosen by Trump, as he suggests, would do a better job? .
Your as bad, in fact your even worse than her, you at least know that no charges means you innocent, when somebody brings charges, your still innocent?, but you seem to think it's fine to call somebody guilty without charges.
So you've not been charged with let's say r#pe in fact you've not even had people find anything to suggest your a r#pist but I'm gonna call you one anyway, how do you feel?
I have not claimed that he is guilty.
Wind your neck in.
Way to go champ. You should add that one to your 'how to argue thread'. "Except that it was appropriately applied to someone who intervened incorrectly. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Trump will do the four years and if he wants the next four years, he has first refusal. The figures bear out the boasts I'm afraid. He's a piece of work, for sure but that makes him good at this stuff. " He’s good as in he has no morals and can support white supremecists to gain support and votes. But he’s disorganised, vain, and insecure, which is causing problems for the GOP. They would much prefer to have Pence in charge. Same policies and agenda as Trump, but not as vocally offensive to women, Mexicans, foreigners, anyone with a brain etc. In many ways we’d be worse off with Pence in charge. He’d likely achieve more of the horrific things the Republican Party wants to do. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Political analyst suggested to me the following- cards are stacking up to remove him from office as Reagan was, heightend by his behaviour over McCain's death which showed him as petulant and behaviourally totally flawed. They anticipate he is to be asked to stand down with an offer of withdrawal of prosecution for various issues The likely scenario is he announces he has a need to return to his businesses, that he feels he has achieved his goals, and has set the country on a firm footing. ..usual guff. Interesting idea been about for a while but seems to be gathering momentum and galloping along now." Reagan wasn't removed from office. You are probably thinking of Nixon, who resigned before he could be impeached. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You are right. He was told to resign then the VP- Johnstone? - gave him a carte blanch reprieve on condition he didn't speak with the media until Frost" VP Gerald Ford. Johnson was JFK's VP and successor. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Good lord, the Libtards are here in good voice today. Yes they are stupid yes they are wrong, but you can’t help thinking what cute babies they must have been. Coochie coochie coo!!! Sorry but the big bad wardrobe monster is going nowhere. So don’t go to bed without a torch
Far right 101,
Step 1. ridicule anyone who speaks out against racism.
Step 2. Don’t make any actual points, don’t use any facts and don’t say anything with any substance or meaning.
The only thing you forgot was to call people “snowflakes”."So what is “far right” 102, or 1 for that matter?? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Trump will do the four years and if he wants the next four years, he has first refusal. The figures bear out the boasts I'm afraid. He's a piece of work, for sure but that makes him good at this stuff. He’s good as in he has no morals and can support white supremecists to gain support and votes. But he’s disorganised, vain, and insecure, which is causing problems for the GOP. They would much prefer to have Pence in charge. Same policies and agenda as Trump, but not as vocally offensive to women, Mexicans, foreigners, anyone with a brain etc. In many ways we’d be worse off with Pence in charge. He’d likely achieve more of the horrific things the Republican Party wants to do." . courting white supremacists might be a rather bad idea to win an election of hundreds of millions of votes because according to FBI data, there's hardly any of them. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned?" It’s not been mentioned because this is s thread about Trump. Feel free to start a thread about the Democratic Party. They have enough dirt to debate all year too. Also “black supremacists”! Do you mean black lives matter? Are you out burning your Nike trainers yet? And finally, just because both parties in America’s two party system are corrupt and morally bankrupt, doesn’t mean we can’t criticise Trump. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned?" Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans " . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse." Here we have the voice of the alt reich neo nazis .Bitching that white supremacist South Africans are having a tough time of it lately since apartheid . .Also the uppity blacks in the USA who are feed up of having a bullseye on their back for generations decided enough is a fucking enough.We aren't going to stand by while you shoot our children for being brown in the wrong fucking neighbourhood They are just target practice for the police force .These people don't like the status quo changing .They want people of colour to know their place in society . Fuck em the wind if change is blowing and they don't fucking like it ! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. Here we have the voice of the alt reich neo nazis .Bitching that white supremacist South Africans are having a tough time of it lately since apartheid . .Also the uppity blacks in the USA who are feed up of having a bullseye on their back for generations decided enough is a fucking enough.We aren't going to stand by while you shoot our children for being brown in the wrong fucking neighbourhood They are just target practice for the police force .These people don't like the status quo changing .They want people of colour to know their place in society . Fuck em the wind if change is blowing and they don't fucking like it ! ". You swear alot. I want to pick up on this, "We aren't going to stand by while you shoot our children for being brown".  | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You know libel laws apply to forums don't you?" You do realise your hate speech is a crime don't you . | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You know libel laws apply to forums don't you? You do realise your hate speech is a crime don't you . ". Again you know libel laws apply to forums don't you?. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse." I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Why do you have reinvent yourself and create new profiles to get across your nefarious agenda .Its all very sad . ". ? | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made." . It was the bie(black identity extremist) report by the FBI and southern poverty law center last year or so. It caused some controversy by rolling up black separatists, black supremacists and black nationalists into one group called black identity extremists. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term." And beyond | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made.. It was the bie(black identity extremist) report by the FBI and southern poverty law center last year or so. It caused some controversy by rolling up black separatists, black supremacists and black nationalists into one group called black identity extremists. " As far as I can see the FBI report was about an "increased risk" of black "terrorism" due to perception or reality of unprovoked police killings. Nothing had materialised yet and I certainly see no 4:1 ratio. You are currently only providing unsubstantiated opinion. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made.. It was the bie(black identity extremist) report by the FBI and southern poverty law center last year or so. It caused some controversy by rolling up black separatists, black supremacists and black nationalists into one group called black identity extremists. As far as I can see the FBI report was about an "increased risk" of black "terrorism" due to perception or reality of unprovoked police killings. Nothing had materialised yet and I certainly see no 4:1 ratio. You are currently only providing unsubstantiated opinion." . You just do the numbers like they did, KKK membership was about 5000 or thereabouts, neo Nazis were around 600 groups averaging 80 per group etc etc you got something in the region of 80-100k white extremists but with the reclassification the nation of Islam for instance has between 80-100k members alone. When they did the numbers you get a 1-4 ratio. Anyway we're getting into semantics with numbers when my point was theres extremists being propagated on both sides, it's just one side gets more noise than the other | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made.. It was the bie(black identity extremist) report by the FBI and southern poverty law center last year or so. It caused some controversy by rolling up black separatists, black supremacists and black nationalists into one group called black identity extremists. As far as I can see the FBI report was about an "increased risk" of black "terrorism" due to perception or reality of unprovoked police killings. Nothing had materialised yet and I certainly see no 4:1 ratio. You are currently only providing unsubstantiated opinion.. You just do the numbers like they did, KKK membership was about 5000 or thereabouts, neo Nazis were around 600 groups averaging 80 per group etc etc you got something in the region of 80-100k white extremists but with the reclassification the nation of Islam for instance has between 80-100k members alone. When they did the numbers you get a 1-4 ratio. Anyway we're getting into semantics with numbers when my point was theres extremists being propagated on both sides, it's just one side gets more noise than the other" This does not represent terrorists or even terrorist groups. Extreme certainly, but the Nation of Islam does not, for instance, stage mass armed rallies in sensitive situations and communities. Unless this inability for the media to do its job has become pretty much terminal. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made.. It was the bie(black identity extremist) report by the FBI and southern poverty law center last year or so. It caused some controversy by rolling up black separatists, black supremacists and black nationalists into one group called black identity extremists. As far as I can see the FBI report was about an "increased risk" of black "terrorism" due to perception or reality of unprovoked police killings. Nothing had materialised yet and I certainly see no 4:1 ratio. You are currently only providing unsubstantiated opinion.. You just do the numbers like they did, KKK membership was about 5000 or thereabouts, neo Nazis were around 600 groups averaging 80 per group etc etc you got something in the region of 80-100k white extremists but with the reclassification the nation of Islam for instance has between 80-100k members alone. When they did the numbers you get a 1-4 ratio. Anyway we're getting into semantics with numbers when my point was theres extremists being propagated on both sides, it's just one side gets more noise than the other This does not represent terrorists or even terrorist groups. Extreme certainly, but the Nation of Islam does not, for instance, stage mass armed rallies in sensitive situations and communities. Unless this inability for the media to do its job has become pretty much terminal." . It's classed by the FBI as an extremist hate group no different than the aryan brotherhood. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You alluded to one of the main styles of rhetoric from right. Labelling what they say as “moderate”, and anything anyone else as “extreme views”. Frankie Boyle demonstrated it perfectly parodying various positions on renewing Trident: “There seems to be a real split on Trident in the party between extreme elements who don’t think we should recommission it, and more moderate voices who want to retain the ability to heat hundreds of thousands of people’s skeletons to the surface temperature of the planet Mercury, in case 1970s Russia tries to attack us through some kind of Stargate.”" Someone should inform Frankie Boyle that Russia still has those nukes today in 2018. Russia doesn't need a Stargate from the 1970's to use them. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Political analyst suggested to me the following- cards are stacking up to remove him from office as Reagan was, heightend by his behaviour over McCain's death which showed him as petulant and behaviourally totally flawed. They anticipate he is to be asked to stand down with an offer of withdrawal of prosecution for various issues The likely scenario is he announces he has a need to return to his businesses, that he feels he has achieved his goals, and has set the country on a firm footing. ..usual guff. Interesting idea been about for a while but seems to be gathering momentum and galloping along now." As Reagan was?? Don't you mean Nixon? Reagan served full terms. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"And while we're talking about courting white supremacists, you only have to look over the other side to see the Dems courting black supremacists! And yet it's never mentioned? Go on... I’ll bite Where is the proof of that.... We know of the white supremacy stuff because there are white nationalists actually running as republicans in several midterm elections and we know of several deep relationships between the alt right and republicans . "I'll bite", it's not a trick question!. According to the FBI, domestic black terrorism outnumbers domestic white terrorism by 4-1, Just look at the Dems position on border control and the abolition of ICE, look at the candidates likes Alexandria osacio Cortez who give interview after interview full of nonsense and lies(none of which are ever given the same treatment as trumps lies), there entire narrative is that black people are helpless and will remain poor until there freed of white supremacy policies that keep them down, Hillary Clinton gives open speeches on the pointlessness of enticing white working class people and the future is "black immigration". The republicans and the democrats are polarising society on both sides with identity politics aimed at "gathering there targeted core group". When your targeting your voters by the colour of they're skin your a racist and your policies will be racist and more worrying still you'll tend to follow the extremists and supremacists who shout the loudest because you want them on side?. We see this in South Africa on both the white side with apartheid policies and the ANC who court policies from the black supremacists like Julius malema who sings songs at political rallies like shoot the Boer, shoot to kill. Obviously this is the extremes of politics and I'm worried that we don't follow suit into this abyss,I don't like trumps targeting of white voters but let's not pretend it isn't happening in reverse. I agree that either extreme does not help anyone. The black vs white terrorism figure in the US I have never seen. Please verify if it's to be taken seriously. Immigration Control and Enforcement has become a very unpopular organisation even amongst other law enforcement and judicial agencies who do not like working with them. I haven't seen a Democrat position on abolishing it though. I have also not seen anything to verify what you are claiming about Democratic campaigning. It just appears to be innuendo. Positively engaging people due to their background, regardless of race, is normal. Engaging them through the hatred of others is not. Again, I see this from Trump but not in what I can see about the Democrats. I do agree that African revolutionary movements have often ended up with "land reform" on the agenda. The skill set for revolution is not that of government so when they fail to deliver, blaming someone else and giving other people's things away is an easy short-term distraction. Claiming a media conspiracy allows any unverified claim to be made.. It was the bie(black identity extremist) report by the FBI and southern poverty law center last year or so. It caused some controversy by rolling up black separatists, black supremacists and black nationalists into one group called black identity extremists. As far as I can see the FBI report was about an "increased risk" of black "terrorism" due to perception or reality of unprovoked police killings. Nothing had materialised yet and I certainly see no 4:1 ratio. You are currently only providing unsubstantiated opinion.. You just do the numbers like they did, KKK membership was about 5000 or thereabouts, neo Nazis were around 600 groups averaging 80 per group etc etc you got something in the region of 80-100k white extremists but with the reclassification the nation of Islam for instance has between 80-100k members alone. When they did the numbers you get a 1-4 ratio. Anyway we're getting into semantics with numbers when my point was theres extremists being propagated on both sides, it's just one side gets more noise than the other This does not represent terrorists or even terrorist groups. Extreme certainly, but the Nation of Islam does not, for instance, stage mass armed rallies in sensitive situations and communities. Unless this inability for the media to do its job has become pretty much terminal.. It's classed by the FBI as an extremist hate group no different than the aryan brotherhood." True. Except they do seem to to be different in what they actually do. Of course, they don't have Trump in the White House egging them on. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"You alluded to one of the main styles of rhetoric from right. Labelling what they say as “moderate”, and anything anyone else as “extreme views”. Frankie Boyle demonstrated it perfectly parodying various positions on renewing Trident: “There seems to be a real split on Trident in the party between extreme elements who don’t think we should recommission it, and more moderate voices who want to retain the ability to heat hundreds of thousands of people’s skeletons to the surface temperature of the planet Mercury, in case 1970s Russia tries to attack us through some kind of Stargate.”" Yeah he's funny as fuck . Hes said in the past "The modern far-right have a lot in common with Jihadis in that their sexual desperation has been used to radicalise them online.The Brexit and Trump campaigns have been their training camps: the equivalent of a few weeks in some desert barracks shooting an AK-47 into an old mattress. Imagine the adrenalin surge of feeling responsible for a huge election upset.” | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"He will be in power for the 4 year term. ...and re-elected for a 2nd term.
He didn't win the first term legitimately. He had large sums of Russian money funneled into his campaign through shadow companies, which is already proven, he had Putins computer geeks manipulating information on dozens of Internet sites to sway the votes in his favor, which is
already proven, ect...ect... . Most of his
associates are in serious legal trouble, or have
immunity for testifying ect...ect... . It goes on and
on and on, we haven't seen the half of it yet. He
will be lucky to finish the first term of office,
second term isn't happening, Thank God !!!!!!!
No Russian collusion has been proven in a court of law.
Period.
The fact the Dems and other Trump haters are now going for other charges around the Stormy Daniels case should tell you've they've given up on the Russian collusion nonsense. "I guess the other people on here are right, you most definitely do live in a fairy land. It has been proven Russia interfered with our election. Fact ! It has been proven that Russian money was funneled into Trumps campaign. Fact ! I could go on and on about what has already been proven a Fact ! But, it's really not worth my time, except to try and help educate people like yourself, that obviously can't comprehend what is Factually going on. But hey, if you want to dwell in fairyland, who am I to ruin your dreams ; ) ! Trump and his real political views, which are absolutely not democratic, is a problem for everyone, not just the people in the US. Remember, from the movie Hunger Games, " If we burn, you burn ! " I know it's a cliche, but it's a Fact ! So, as hard as it may be for you, you really should put on your thinking cap, and maybe wise up just a little, and actually realize what's at stake here ! All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! " . Your right, all jokes aside there is serious things happening in the USA. The major of Portland has refused to send police out to protect ICE workers from "protesters". He doesn't agree with the politics of child separation amongst illegal immigrants, which is fine and good but he doesn't get to choose who his city police protect. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Impeachment requires a "high crime". Collusion isn't a crime, even if trump colluded all day every day personally with Vladimir Putin, it's still not a crime." You don't get it do you? The fact the an old has been politician and one time lawyer has said so is ok? The same guy who said " truth is not truth" - yeah crack on. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
"Impeachment requires a "high crime"." Not it does not, it requires "high crimes AND misdemeanours". Which is not the same as "high crimes". "Collusion isn't a crime," True, but only Trump, his allies and the press are talking about collusion. US federal law talks about 'conspiring with a foreign country, entity or in individuals to influence US elections', 'failing to registrar as an agent of a foreign power' when attempting to influence US policy on behalf of a foreign country, entity or individuals, and of course knowingly taking campaign finance contributions from foreign country, entity or individuals. "even if trump colluded all day every day personally with Vladimir Putin, it's still not a crime." Actually it is, and is probably a different crime every day and maybe a different crime every time they changed the subject. If you need clarity read above, engage your brain and then reread this. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! . Your right, all jokes aside there is serious things happening in the USA. The major of Portland has refused to send police out to protect ICE workers from "protesters". He doesn't agree with the politics of child separation amongst illegal immigrants, which is fine and good but he doesn't get to choose who his city police protect. " It's not just Portland. Many individual towns and cities and entire states do not cooperate with immigration agents. Depending on State or County Law, they do get to choose. They didn't before Trump and that had grown steeply. Fear of deportation means that crimes are not reported and witnesses did not come forward so the police concentrate on crime rather than politics. Deporting immigrants and separating children is not protecting anyone. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! . Your right, all jokes aside there is serious things happening in the USA. The major of Portland has refused to send police out to protect ICE workers from "protesters". He doesn't agree with the politics of child separation amongst illegal immigrants, which is fine and good but he doesn't get to choose who his city police protect. It's not just Portland. Many individual towns and cities and entire states do not cooperate with immigration agents. Depending on State or County Law, they do get to choose. They didn't before Trump and that had grown steeply. Fear of deportation means that crimes are not reported and witnesses did not come forward so the police concentrate on crime rather than politics. Deporting immigrants and separating children is not protecting anyone." . ICE has the majority of support in polling, a poll recently showed 87% of Americans supported illegal immigrants being treated by federal agents. And I think your wrong, the constitution of America says as a citizen your entitled to protection by the state regardless of your colour, sex, job or political affiliations. Once you start deciding who gets police protection your on a slippery slope to chaos. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! . Your right, all jokes aside there is serious things happening in the USA. The major of Portland has refused to send police out to protect ICE workers from "protesters". He doesn't agree with the politics of child separation amongst illegal immigrants, which is fine and good but he doesn't get to choose who his city police protect. " ICE agents are armed, they have their own protection. Mayors are in place as a checks and balance official. If they see acts being committed that are morally wrong or illegally wrong, they have absolute authority to correct or deter such wrong doing inside the city limits. As you can see, the police did not disobey the Mayors orders, because the Mayor has the authority! If ICE agents were under weapons fire, the Mayor would have sent police to assist, because then it would be the Mayors and police responsibility to stop the dangerous situation. Democracy is suppose to have checks and balances to stop immoralities and corruption up to the highest levels, including the presidency ! Trump would love to stop those checks and balances, just like Russia, just like China, just like North Korea ect...ect... . History has proven the extreme dangers and extreme consequences of this type of thinking. Look, you may be ignorant to whats going on, and I can understand ignorance, but I'm sure your not stupid ! Use your head for something other than a hat rack, it would be an enlightening experience for you, and very beneficial for the rest of your life ! Honestly, I mean no disrespect what so ever. Everyone is ignorant until they learn and accept what's factually correct and morally right for the personal freedom of everyone ! But, there in lays the problem, some will never accept fact as fact, or be morally just for the benefit of everyone, and that's just pure Stupidity ! | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! . Your right, all jokes aside there is serious things happening in the USA. The major of Portland has refused to send police out to protect ICE workers from "protesters". He doesn't agree with the politics of child separation amongst illegal immigrants, which is fine and good but he doesn't get to choose who his city police protect. ICE agents are armed, they have their own protection. Mayors are in place as a checks and balance official. If they see acts being committed that are morally wrong or illegally wrong, they have absolute authority to correct or deter such wrong doing inside the city limits. As you can see, the police did not disobey the Mayors orders, because the Mayor has the authority! If ICE agents were under weapons fire, the Mayor would have sent police to assist, because then it would be the Mayors and police responsibility to stop the dangerous situation. Democracy is suppose to have checks and balances to stop immoralities and corruption up to the highest levels, including the presidency ! Trump would love to stop those checks and balances, just like Russia, just like China, just like North Korea ect...ect... . History has proven the extreme dangers and extreme consequences of this type of thinking. Look, you may be ignorant to whats going on, and I can understand ignorance, but I'm sure your not stupid ! Use your head for something other than a hat rack, it would be an enlightening experience for you, and very beneficial for the rest of your life ! Honestly, I mean no disrespect what so ever. Everyone is ignorant until they learn and accept what's factually correct and morally right for the personal freedom of everyone ! But, there in lays the problem, some will never accept fact as fact, or be morally just for the benefit of everyone, and that's just pure Stupidity ! " . Well I used my head for something other than a hat rack .
Turns out these were unarmed back room staff from the ice building in Portland.
The 14th amendment of the constitution disagrees with your opinion, your free to go read it if you like. | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
" All jokes aside, there are some serious things going on that we already know, no to mention whats going that we don't know, Yet ! . Your right, all jokes aside there is serious things happening in the USA. The major of Portland has refused to send police out to protect ICE workers from "protesters". He doesn't agree with the politics of child separation amongst illegal immigrants, which is fine and good but he doesn't get to choose who his city police protect. ICE agents are armed, they have their own protection. Mayors are in place as a checks and balance official. If they see acts being committed that are morally wrong or illegally wrong, they have absolute authority to correct or deter such wrong doing inside the city limits. As you can see, the police did not disobey the Mayors orders, because the Mayor has the authority! If ICE agents were under weapons fire, the Mayor would have sent police to assist, because then it would be the Mayors and police responsibility to stop the dangerous situation. Democracy is suppose to have checks and balances to stop immoralities and corruption up to the highest levels, including the presidency ! Trump would love to stop those checks and balances, just like Russia, just like China, just like North Korea ect...ect... . History has proven the extreme dangers and extreme consequences of this type of thinking Look, you may be ignorant to whats going on, and I can understand ignorance, but I'm sure your not stupid ! Use your head for something other than a hat rack, it would be an enlightening experience for you, and very beneficial for the rest of your life ! Honestly, I mean no disrespect what so ever. Everyone is ignorant until they learn and accept what's factually correct and morally right for the personal freedom of everyone ! But, there in lays the problem, some will never accept fact as fact, or be morally just for the benefit of everyone, and that's just pure Stupidity ! . Well I used my head for something other than a hat rack .
Turns out these were unarmed back room staff from the ice building in Portland.
The 14th amendment of the constitution
disagrees with your opinion, your free to go read
it if you like."Oh I know the 14th A. , and I'm glad your thinking in this direction, its a very good amendment that was hard to get ratified by the southern states because it gave protection of civil liberties to the freed slaves in 1968 by limiting what state and public officials could do. Unfortunately it doesn't pertain to what the Mayor ordered the police to do. Long story short without going into a long explanation of why it doesnt pertain. The Mayor could not be charged with a disregard for protection of civil liberties. I did want to ask, why would any ICE agents be unarmed when on the job? I never really looked into the specifics of this situation, but I do know mayors have wide authority over nearly everything in the town or city their elected to. I personally know a retired mayor of a small city near by. I remember when he was acting mayor, and when he spoke, everyone listened, city police, lawyers, judges, fire dept, ect...ect... . Has the Mayor of Portland been charged with a crime, or is there an ongoing investigation? Has any ICE agent filed charges against him? Has the City Counsel even asked for a hearing? If known of this has been done, no enforcable law has been broken, so no crime has been committed, and he was within his rights. Thanks for the reply . | |||
| Reply privately | Reply in forum | Reply +quote |
| Post new Message to Thread |
| back to top |  |
