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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc." How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. " I’m not sure I get your point? America’s economy was stable and they had some problems. Now they’re very unstable and their government is ramping up the debt to support their crumbling industry and massive waste of money on their inefficient public sector and on their military. Not sure what you mean abou climate change and him being a wanker. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. I’m not sure I get your point? America’s economy was stable and they had some problems. Now they’re very unstable and their government is ramping up the debt to support their crumbling industry and massive waste of money on their inefficient public sector and on their military. Not sure what you mean abou climate change and him being a wanker. " I’m not making a point. I’m asking how his results in those areas are going? Compared to the previous presidents. As for his stance on Climate change I think he’s a wanker | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. I’m not sure I get your point? America’s economy was stable and they had some problems. Now they’re very unstable and their government is ramping up the debt to support their crumbling industry and massive waste of money on their inefficient public sector and on their military. Not sure what you mean abou climate change and him being a wanker. I’m not making a point. I’m asking how his results in those areas are going? Compared to the previous presidents. As for his stance on Climate change I think he’s a wanker " Oh got you. Debt is ballooning much much faster under Trump. They past the 21 trillion USD mark earlier this year. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. I’m not sure I get your point? America’s economy was stable and they had some problems. Now they’re very unstable and their government is ramping up the debt to support their crumbling industry and massive waste of money on their inefficient public sector and on their military. Not sure what you mean abou climate change and him being a wanker. I’m not making a point. I’m asking how his results in those areas are going? Compared to the previous presidents. As for his stance on Climate change I think he’s a wanker Oh got you. Debt is ballooning much much faster under Trump. They past the 21 trillion USD mark earlier this year." That’s a lot of Benjamin’s Is that more than the previous chap? | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. " Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge.... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. I’m not sure I get your point? America’s economy was stable and they had some problems. Now they’re very unstable and their government is ramping up the debt to support their crumbling industry and massive waste of money on their inefficient public sector and on their military. Not sure what you mean abou climate change and him being a wanker. I’m not making a point. I’m asking how his results in those areas are going? Compared to the previous presidents. As for his stance on Climate change I think he’s a wanker Oh got you. Debt is ballooning much much faster under Trump. They past the 21 trillion USD mark earlier this year. That’s a lot of Benjamin’s Is that more than the previous chap? " Yes... because of said tax cut.... basically it added about 4 billion to the debt | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge.... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... " Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge.... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. " Yeah but it mostly benefitted the rich. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge.... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. " 97% of all the money given away in the tax cut went to the top 5% of earners... and 90% went to the top 1% ..... you can’t really claim Donald was working for the “common man” | |||
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"You've got to love the trumpanzees. "Are they the same as the trumpwits? | |||
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"President Trump is doing a fantastic job and I love the way he pisses off the media and the do gooders ." Are “do gooders” people who aren’t into sexual assaulting women, aren’t into race hate, aren’t into watching the president using his power for the sole purpose of making himself and his buddies richer? | |||
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"President Trump is doing a fantastic job and I love the way he pisses off the media and the do gooders ." Oh you'll be one of those advocates for shoving kids up chimneys and women being denied the vote. | |||
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"President Trump is doing a fantastic job and I love the way he pisses off the media and the do gooders . Are “do gooders” people who aren’t into sexual assaulting women, aren’t into race hate, aren’t into watching the president using his power for the sole purpose of making himself and his buddies richer?" ...and interfering in the judicial system to make him and his acolytes less accountable. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. " With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact ! | |||
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"It would appear that the trumpster is doing great things with the economy in USA ...unlike the previous guy ....maybe he is not that bad as people think ....second term looming....maybe he could sort out britex ...he would have it sorted in a day.." No, it wouldn't. You probably don't like graphs, but if you look at what the last guy did, all economic indicators carry on in the same direction except for the budget deficit which is going up far more steeply. US companies are starting to suffer due to his trade wars and consumer prices rise. Trump famously doesn't pay his suppliers or debts. He likes bankruptcy as a business option. Countries shouldn't really Trump is claiming a lot of illusory wins that seem to take in a lot of people who want to believe him. You seemed to believe that he had "done a trade deal" with the EU 
Is there anything that he can do wrong?
He now also doesn't like the WTO which hard Brexiteers appear to think will be just fine. Any thoughts there? | |||
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"He's now threatening to pull the US out of the WTO! Set up in 1994 mainly by the US as the rules for world trade. So now let's rip the rule book and chaos begins. This man is determined to be remembered in history as the man that fucked the world. Bullies never win." On the positive side he has just torpedoed the BREXITers main argument that we can trade successfully on WTO rules (whatever they are?) if there's a good chance the WTO won't even be there soon. | |||
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"He's now threatening to pull the US out of the WTO! Set up in 1994 mainly by the US as the rules for world trade. So now let's rip the rule book and chaos begins. This man is determined to be remembered in history as the man that fucked the world. Bullies never win." Another day and another pathetic ill thought out attempt by him at deflection from what is possibly coming over collusion with a foreign state.. No matter what he Knee jerks and rants about its not going away and this latest ignorant hyperbole will go the same way as most of the others.. | |||
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"Good friends in america who are staunch democrats said the problem is he is doing exactly what he said he would and that wins votes" But at what damage? Not just America either. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact !" Real American people living in America disagree with you on that. I watched the "Ed Balls in Trumpland" programme recently on telly and the average wage factory workers Ed Balls interviewed in the programme said they were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets because of Trumps tax cut. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low " . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term." The Trump has done more damage that people are awakening to, as well as seeing how dangerous he is | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term." Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010.  | |||
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"I wonder how long it will be until we hear Trump calling for the burning of 'fake news' and 'fake books'?" ..and drowning of witches | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. "new trump approval ratings in amongst black americans.... a whopping 3% approval rating..... i am surprised its that high!!! his spat with omarosa must have taken its toll!!! okay i am kidding.... thats basically the black community version of two bald people fighting over a comb!!! ....and when you go at lebron james and call him dumb the very week he opens a new public school and gives university schlorships with his own money! not good... can we say that the "black outreach" program is well and trueley over....
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact ! Real American people living in America disagree with you on that. I watched the "Ed Balls in Trumpland" programme recently on telly and the average wage factory workers Ed Balls interviewed in the programme said they were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets because of Trumps tax cut. " Some Americans appear to. Rather a lot also appear not to. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010.
new trump approval ratings in amongst black americans....
a whopping 3% approval rating.....
i am surprised its that high!!!
his spat with omarosa must have taken its toll!!! okay i am kidding.... thats basically the black community version of two bald people fighting over a comb!!!
....and when you go at lebron james and call him dumb the very week he opens a new public school and gives university schlorships with his own money! not good...
can we say that the "black outreach" program is well and trueley over....
i am sure the usual suspects will stick up for him"But Kanye likes him! | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010.
new trump approval ratings in amongst black americans....
a whopping 3% approval rating.....
i am surprised its that high!!!
his spat with omarosa must have taken its toll!!! okay i am kidding.... thats basically the black community version of two bald people fighting over a comb!!!
....and when you go at lebron james and call him dumb the very week he opens a new public school and gives university schlorships with his own money! not good...
can we say that the "black outreach" program is well and trueley over....
i am sure the usual suspects will stick up for him
But Kanye likes him! "..and Tiger Woods apparently, must be hoping for a job in one of Trump's golf shops when he retires. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact ! Real American people living in America disagree with you on that. I watched the "Ed Balls in Trumpland" programme recently on telly and the average wage factory workers Ed Balls interviewed in the programme said they were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets because of Trumps tax cut. " Remind us again how low your opinion of Ed Balls used to be.. Was it a poll you refer to? Straws and clutching hmm.. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. ". His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas. And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?). I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him"There are several points about this that you are missing: He has continually contradicted his own words and deleted past communications. He has blatantly lied and continues to do so. He has accused the press of lying when they have not. He has his supporters intimidate the press. You can cannot be surprised that they have taken against him. Why is the word of a pornstar more unreliable than that of a reality TV star? The point of the story isn't that he had affairs and lied about them whilst parading his family around. The point of the story is that he secretly paid her to keep quiet about it during a political campaign and denied all knowledge. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him"Just for the record, at this point in Obama's administration the USA was deep in a recession with massive unemployment in which he had no hand in. Trump has inherited a booming economy with near full employment. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact ! Real American people living in America disagree with you on that. I watched the "Ed Balls in Trumpland" programme recently on telly and the average wage factory workers Ed Balls interviewed in the programme said they were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets because of Trumps tax cut. Remind us again how low your opinion of Ed Balls used to be.. Was it a poll you refer to? Straws and clutching hmm.. " My own personal opinion of Ed Balls has nothing to do with it. He only asked the question. He asked some American factory workers if they were better off under Obama or Trump. The factory workers said they were better off under Trump, and were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets as a direct result of Trump's tax cut. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
Just for the record, at this point in Obama's administration the USA was deep in a recession with massive unemployment in which he had no hand in.
Trump has inherited a booming economy with near full employment.". Just for the record, Obama started with nearly a 70% approval when he took office in that already hard up economy | |||
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"Libtards will always hate on a leader who puts his own country first. Especially if said leader doesn’t follow their self loathing and pathetic pc narrative. Trump has recognised the fact that the US has not only had to police the world since WW2, but that they have also had to pay for keeping other countries safe. He knows that South American’s are entering the US illegally in their millions every year, and aims to put a stop to them. He has identified the weaknesses of the previous regime and is showing the world that America is still great. As I have said, more than once, I just wish we had a prime minister just like America’s president. "I have defined exactly why he has set the press against him. You have offered meaningless insults. Just hating. Like your hero. The US has chosen to do what it has done for many years exactly because it has been in their own interests. Trump, like many cynical men and women before him, have sought and gained power by telling people how terrible their lives are. Emphasising every negative of fear and anger. Blaming outsiders dor all their problems and offering easy "solutions". He is showing the world that America is a nasty bully. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
There are several points about this that you are missing:
He has continually contradicted his own words and deleted past communications.
He has blatantly lied and continues to do so.
He has accused the press of lying when they have not.
He has his supporters intimidate the press.
You can cannot be surprised that they have taken against him.
Why is the word of a pornstar more unreliable than that of a reality TV star?
The point of the story isn't that he had affairs and lied about them whilst parading his family around. The point of the story is that he secretly paid her to keep quiet about it during a political campaign and denied all knowledge.". My god your a victim blamer too, he was bl*ckmailed by a porn star into paying her vast amounts of his OWN money (no admission of guilt) to avoid the negative press. But as usual to you liberals it's the victim (trump) that's to blame not the criminal (Daniels). | |||
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"Libtards will always hate on a leader who puts his own country first. Especially if said leader doesn’t follow their self loathing and pathetic pc narrative. Trump has recognised the fact that the US has not only had to police the world since WW2, but that they have also had to pay for keeping other countries safe. He knows that South American’s are entering the US illegally in their millions every year, and aims to put a stop to them. He has identified the weaknesses of the previous regime and is showing the world that America is still great. As I have said, more than once, I just wish we had a prime minister just like America’s president.
I have defined exactly why he has set the press against him.
You have offered meaningless insults. Just hating. Like your hero.
The US has chosen to do what it has done for many years exactly because it has been in their own interests.
Trump, like many cynical men and women before him, have sought and gained power by telling people how terrible their lives are. Emphasising every negative of fear and anger. Blaming outsiders dor all their problems and offering easy "solutions".
He is showing the world that America is a nasty bully."The situations I mentioned were having a negative effect on the US, and the President was right to point this out. Trying to stop the huge influxes of illegal migrants from coming and not going as they please, is not blaming outsiders. Nasty bully? Lmfao, that is how the snowflake generation like to describe a strong leader... | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
Just for the record, at this point in Obama's administration the USA was deep in a recession with massive unemployment in which he had no hand in.
Trump has inherited a booming economy with near full employment..
Just for the record, Obama started with nearly a 70% approval when he took office in that already hard up economy"I'm not going to defend Obama as the greatest president ever. He got plenty wrong. However, he started with historically high approval ratings and most of his campaign promises had to wait until there was an economic recovery in place. This was never going to happen fast enough was it? This especially considering that the stimulus package that should have been set in place was held up for purely political reasons by the Republicans who have changed their minds this time. What he didn't do was make people feel good about themselves by encouraging them to blame others. People don't actually like taking responsibility for themselves despite what they claim. You can quote figures like Centaur does. It's more interesting if you try and work out what they mean in context. Hitler was very popular. | |||
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"Oh no, it didn't take long for Hitler to be raised did it
Comedy gold, “don’t mention ze var!” He says as he goose steps round the room.
". It's all those pesky Russian bots I tell yer, there influencing our elections!, it must be, it has to be, please God it's the Russian bots and not the multi billionaire Clintons(all made from politics) and the ever popular liberalism of Jesus was a transgender cock sucker unlike Mohamed who was an upright citizen   | |||
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"Libtards will always hate on a leader who puts his own country first. Especially if said leader doesn’t follow their self loathing and pathetic pc narrative. Trump has recognised the fact that the US has not only had to police the world since WW2, but that they have also had to pay for keeping other countries safe. He knows that South American’s are entering the US illegally in their millions every year, and aims to put a stop to them. He has identified the weaknesses of the previous regime and is showing the world that America is still great. As I have said, more than once, I just wish we had a prime minister just like America’s president.
I have defined exactly why he has set the press against him.
You have offered meaningless insults. Just hating. Like your hero.
The US has chosen to do what it has done for many years exactly because it has been in their own interests.
Trump, like many cynical men and women before him, have sought and gained power by telling people how terrible their lives are. Emphasising every negative of fear and anger. Blaming outsiders dor all their problems and offering easy "solutions".
He is showing the world that America is a nasty bully."Sounds like you just described yourself there, you're constantly crowing on here about how miserable people's lives are in the UK (or will be outside of the EU), always pessimistic you incessantly emphasise every negative of fear and anger about leaving the EU. Always blaming others, (Trump, Putin, Farage, the Russians, or anyone else you see as a bogey man) and offering a simple solution to all our problems (we just have to change our mind and remain in the EU). A nasty bully, you just described yourself down to a T. | |||
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"Trump could be balls deep in a minor and trumpanzees will defend him. It's the age of alternative facts and shit gibbons... "As bad as that sounds given what he has said about his daughter, it seems like with his core base the question of integrity and decency gets binned.. polarised beyond repair on both sides maybe.. | |||
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"Oh no, it didn't take long for Hitler to be raised did it "I was not drawing a parallel. There is a foolishness in dismissing a comment referencing Hitler as there is in bringing him up without reason. I am making the point that the popularity of an individual does not indicate if their policies or actions are the right ones. Is that not true? | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
"oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true... the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency.... so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4% in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman". Only my mother calls me Albert .
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman"But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman.
Only my mother calls me Albert .
You notice I quoted his sixth quarter average not day 589 but thanks for the twist CNN"see, that sixth quarter average thing... not true either! so if you keep spouting "untruths" then people will call you out on them.... https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ so it is blissful ignorance at best, or woefully lying at worst.... which is it, or should i just give you the benefit of the doubt! | |||
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"Libtards will always hate on a leader who puts his own country first. Especially if said leader doesn’t follow their self loathing and pathetic pc narrative. Trump has recognised the fact that the US has not only had to police the world since WW2, but that they have also had to pay for keeping other countries safe. He knows that South American’s are entering the US illegally in their millions every year, and aims to put a stop to them. He has identified the weaknesses of the previous regime and is showing the world that America is still great. As I have said, more than once, I just wish we had a prime minister just like America’s president.
I have defined exactly why he has set the press against him.
You have offered meaningless insults. Just hating. Like your hero.
The US has chosen to do what it has done for many years exactly because it has been in their own interests.
Trump, like many cynical men and women before him, have sought and gained power by telling people how terrible their lives are. Emphasising every negative of fear and anger. Blaming outsiders dor all their problems and offering easy "solutions".
He is showing the world that America is a nasty bully.
Sounds like you just described yourself there, you're constantly crowing on here about how miserable people's lives are in the UK (or will be outside of the EU), always pessimistic you incessantly emphasise every negative of fear and anger about leaving the EU. Always blaming others, (Trump, Putin, Farage, the Russians, or anyone else you see as a bogey man) and offering a simple solution to all our problems (we just have to change our mind and remain in the EU).
A nasty bully, you just described yourself down to a T. "Crowing? Absolutely not. I am very concerned about the economic and social consequences. Concerns which you ignore and deny. I am not interested in simply reading the newspaper headlines that you quote without thought and accepting them as fact. You persistently ignore the the consequences of the "benefits" that you claim. I am very optimistic about the potential that comes from working together in all fields of human endeavour and about what we have achieved already. Hans Rosling. You've never looked have you? Why is Erdogan not on tour list Centaur. Do you disapprove of his actions? What about Xi Jinping? How are they different? I am perfectly able to accept that there are many things wrong with many organisations that do a great deal of good. From Oxfam, to the NHS to the Police, to the EU to the UN. They are all imperfect and require constant improvement. There are no easy answers. They are all difficult and complicated. You can find no problems with anyone or anything that you support. I am not in a position of power Centaur. I do not have a state apparatus to enact my prejudices and impose them not only on my population but on the wider world. I do not victimise the weak nor condemn a whole group for the actions of a few. Perhaps you feel bullied by me because I point out the weaknesses in your uncritical convictions and beliefs? Shame. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok"So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics? Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election. Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents. Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents. Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him. What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them? | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman.
Only my mother calls me Albert .
You notice I quoted his sixth quarter average not day 589 but thanks for the twist CNN
see, that sixth quarter average thing... not true either! so if you keep spouting "untruths" then people will call you out on them....
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
so it is blissful ignorance at best, or woefully lying at worst....
which is it, or should i just give you the benefit of the doubt! ". Again your twisting what I wrote. For you convenience I said trump's was 41% for his sixth quarter which was "near enough" the same as Obamas,I think his was was 42.3% but that's from memory. What your attempting to do is exactly the same as CNN or trumps team which is muddy the waters with bullshit. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?". So your with me on it's the media to blame then?. Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office. Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil. I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??. I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices). I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?. | |||
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" Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office. Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil. I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??. I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices). I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?. " Obama got in without a whiff of scandal surrounding him, whereas Trump the media whore manipulated the press to his advantage. Remember his focus on Clinton's antics and lo & behold the FBI fell for it, ironically it was Comedy who put the knife in and look what happened to him?! | |||
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" Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office. Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil. I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??. I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices). I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?. Obama got in without a whiff of scandal surrounding him, whereas Trump the media whore manipulated the press to his advantage. Remember his focus on Clinton's antics and lo & behold the FBI fell for it, ironically it was Comedy who put the knife in and look what happened to him?!" . Sorry your not making sense, is English your first language? | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
"The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades. Can the same be said of Obama? Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one. Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country? "Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say? Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria? Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress? Is Obamacare also viewd positively by the poorest? Who can afford it the least? I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say? "Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then? I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition. I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what? Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest? Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like. He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades. | |||
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" Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office. Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil. I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??. I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices). I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?. Obama got in without a whiff of scandal surrounding him, whereas Trump the media whore manipulated the press to his advantage. Remember his focus on Clinton's antics and lo & behold the FBI fell for it, ironically it was Comedy who put the knife in and look what happened to him?!. Sorry your not making sense, is English your first language?" Good argument | |||
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" Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office. Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil. I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??. I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices). I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?. Obama got in without a whiff of scandal surrounding him, whereas Trump the media whore manipulated the press to his advantage. Remember his focus on Clinton's antics and lo & behold the FBI fell for it, ironically it was Comedy who put the knife in and look what happened to him?!. Sorry your not making sense, is English your first language? Good argument ". I couldn't follow there post! There from Ireland, you know lots of people only speak Gallic there. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades.". Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks. I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
"Also a well constructed position. I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules? Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon? Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones? | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
Also a well constructed position.
I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules?
Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon?
Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones?". We'll trawl through some articles, what from (you'll like this word) corexit to 80% tax deductible fines to 1000s of people who are sick from the pollution to yes Obama giving shell the green light to dig in the Arctic!.
I don't think Obamas a bad man he just doesn't get the grilling trump gets for the same shit. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
Also a well constructed position.
I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules?
Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon?
Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones?.
We'll trawl through some articles, what from (you'll like this word) corexit to 80% tax deductible fines to 1000s of people who are sick from the pollution to yes Obama giving shell the green light to dig in the Arctic!.
I don't think Obamas a bad man he just doesn't get the grilling trump gets for the same shit."Splendid. You are telling me that Obama personally chose the oil dispersent? Perhaps the EPA made an almighty screw up? It's not my business to defend them or him. It's a big step to claim he was protecting a company that was fined $20bn. They don't mind pollutants directly into fresh water courses under the current administration. Is that an improvement. Perhaps the lack of wide coverage just proves that if you don't act like a dick, people are nicer to you? Drilling in Alaska is not offshore drilling which is what yiu chose to discuss. Fossil fuels were and are an important part of the US economy. He didn't vow to stop it. What he didn't do was approve drilling in national parks as Trump is. How about addressing some of the assertions that you made with some actual information? Are you telling me that the Republicans did not question everything that Obama did down to his actual nationality and religion because...you know what...Obama sounds a bit like Osama. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
Also a well constructed position.
I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules?
Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon?
Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones?.
We'll trawl through some articles, what from (you'll like this word) corexit to 80% tax deductible fines to 1000s of people who are sick from the pollution to yes Obama giving shell the green light to dig in the Arctic!.
I don't think Obamas a bad man he just doesn't get the grilling trump gets for the same shit.
Splendid. You are telling me that Obama personally chose the oil dispersent? Perhaps the EPA made an almighty screw up? It's not my business to defend them or him. It's a big step to claim he was protecting a company that was fined $20bn. They don't mind pollutants directly into fresh water courses under the current administration. Is that an improvement.
Perhaps the lack of wide coverage just proves that if you don't act like a dick, people are nicer to you?
Drilling in Alaska is not offshore drilling which is what yiu chose to discuss. Fossil fuels were and are an important part of the US economy. He didn't vow to stop it. What he didn't do was approve drilling in national parks as Trump is.
How about addressing some of the assertions that you made with some actual information?
Are you telling me that the Republicans did not question everything that Obama did down to his actual nationality and religion because...you know what...Obama sounds a bit like Osama.". No I'm saying when your fine is 80% tax deductible your really only paying 20% as the 80% there'd have paid in tax anyway. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
Also a well constructed position.
I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules?
Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon?
Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones?.
We'll trawl through some articles, what from (you'll like this word) corexit to 80% tax deductible fines to 1000s of people who are sick from the pollution to yes Obama giving shell the green light to dig in the Arctic!.
I don't think Obamas a bad man he just doesn't get the grilling trump gets for the same shit.
Splendid. You are telling me that Obama personally chose the oil dispersent? Perhaps the EPA made an almighty screw up? It's not my business to defend them or him. It's a big step to claim he was protecting a company that was fined $20bn. They don't mind pollutants directly into fresh water courses under the current administration. Is that an improvement.
Perhaps the lack of wide coverage just proves that if you don't act like a dick, people are nicer to you?
Drilling in Alaska is not offshore drilling which is what yiu chose to discuss. Fossil fuels were and are an important part of the US economy. He didn't vow to stop it. What he didn't do was approve drilling in national parks as Trump is.
How about addressing some of the assertions that you made with some actual information?
Are you telling me that the Republicans did not question everything that Obama did down to his actual nationality and religion because...you know what...Obama sounds a bit like Osama..
No I'm saying when your fine is 80% tax deductible your really only paying 20% as the 80% there'd have paid in tax anyway."So, again, is that the law as it stands in the US? Is it still? Should it have been changed specifically? Would trying to kill one of the biggest companies of one of your closest allies be politic? | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
Also a well constructed position.
I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules?
Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon?
Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones?.
We'll trawl through some articles, what from (you'll like this word) corexit to 80% tax deductible fines to 1000s of people who are sick from the pollution to yes Obama giving shell the green light to dig in the Arctic!.
I don't think Obamas a bad man he just doesn't get the grilling trump gets for the same shit.
Splendid. You are telling me that Obama personally chose the oil dispersent? Perhaps the EPA made an almighty screw up? It's not my business to defend them or him. It's a big step to claim he was protecting a company that was fined $20bn. They don't mind pollutants directly into fresh water courses under the current administration. Is that an improvement.
Perhaps the lack of wide coverage just proves that if you don't act like a dick, people are nicer to you?
Drilling in Alaska is not offshore drilling which is what yiu chose to discuss. Fossil fuels were and are an important part of the US economy. He didn't vow to stop it. What he didn't do was approve drilling in national parks as Trump is.
How about addressing some of the assertions that you made with some actual information?
Are you telling me that the Republicans did not question everything that Obama did down to his actual nationality and religion because...you know what...Obama sounds a bit like Osama..
No I'm saying when your fine is 80% tax deductible your really only paying 20% as the 80% there'd have paid in tax anyway.
So, again, is that the law as it stands in the US? Is it still?
Should it have been changed specifically?
Would trying to kill one of the biggest companies of one of your closest allies be politic?". He had powers in his remit. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
oh albert dear albert..... see... that last statement is actually not true...
the good folk at 538.com actually keep a track of this type of thing (statistics and all that) and they actually have kept a tracker of trumps approval rather again everyone going back as far as harry s truman at the some point of their presidency....
so on day 589.. today.... trump is at 40.3%..... obama's approval rating at the same point was at 45.4%
in fact.... at the point during his term the only one trump does beat approval ratings wise is harry s truman
But good old abama was the new messiah and according to some trump is the devil incarnate, looks like the us citizens dont think there is that much difference, or perhaps are we in the uk only getting part of the picture from uk based or is that biased media, Im no fan of trump but he must be doing something that makes 40% of usa voters think is ok
So the whole thing about looking at the context of the statistics?
Obama started with an extremely high approval rating which means that he had, somehow, managed to unite the country in his election.
Expectations were high and he did not deliver quickly for whatever reasons, in his control or not. His approval dropped amongst Republicans and independents.
Trump started with low ratings because he divided the country. There was already almost zero approval from Democrats and independents.
Partisan politics are now such that there really seems to be no action so horrible that Republicans would change their opinion of him.
What would have happened to Obama if a single one of the stories surrounding Trump came to light, let alone all of them?.
So your with me on it's the media to blame then?.
Obama got in with a fanfare of media stories depicting him from anything from the new JFK to Jesus, including the Nobel peace prize despite not even talking office.
Let's compare that to trump who came in under a fanfare of media bullshit lies and conspiracy theories of everything from he's Hitler to the devil.
I mean do you not think these two massive media differences might effect polling results??.
I mean you keep saying he doesn't beat Harry Truman who just nuclear bombed Japan, doesn't that tell you what a bunch of crock shit the media talks about trump, the guy has done nothing except rearrange some unfair trade deals, continue with Obamas policy's on immigration, Syria, Russia (he's actually slightly harder than Obama) and tried but failed to overturn Obamacare (which is deeply unliked by a large percentage of Americans due to massive increases in insurance polices).
I mean sure he's no slick speaker like Obama was but he's certainly not enriching himself anymore than Obama or the Clinton's have done, I mean Obama was the guy who let bp off the hook for ruining the gulf and then renewed deep oil licences then took a job with oil after leaving office, what do you think the media would have made about that if it was trump?.
The scandals swirling around Trump do not appear to be completely without foundation. They do not appear to be complete fabrications as far as I can tell. He wouldn't even publish his tax returns as every other candidate has for decades.
Can the same be said of Obama?
Obama did construct a narrative, cynical or not, designed to unite the country behind something that at least seemed positive. He failed to deliver on a big positive vision. Perhaps it was illusory, but it was a positive one.
Forget the media, look at Trump's words for evidence of using division, victimisation and fear. What has he said or done to unite his country?
"Obama's" policy on immigration was much the same as those that preceded it wouldn't you say?
Did the UK have anything to do with the USA changing the direction of its policy in Syria?
Has Trump been harder on Russia or has Congress?
Is Obamacare also viewd positively
by the poorest? Who can afford it the least?
I have not mentioned anything about Truman but as a war leader his actions are judged on rather different criteria wouldn't you say?
"Unfair" trade deals are rather subjective wouldn't you say? It depends if you feel that having a bilateral trade surplus is "winning" and a deficit "losing"? What if the result is a much, much larger pie? Are you still a loser then?
I do not believe that a $20bn settlement by BP and $40bn of clean-up costs is "let off". What's your definition.
I also haven't heard that Obama took an oil job. Who with? Doing what?
Making money after leaving office can be distasteful but in office from practically day 1? No conflicts of interest?
Trump conducts official business at locations which belong to his family which he apparently no longer has any financial interest in and his parents in law have benefited from immigration laws that he apparently doesn't like.
He didn't even declare his tax returns as candidates have dine for decades..
Your a liberal fool, bp got massive tax write offs as well as quickly pushed through legislation in restarting deep deep oil drilling, he's taken up several money earners with oil companies and banks.
I don't blame him, I would given the chance and so would trump.
Also a well constructed position.
I do not have the specific knowledge of US tax law that you do? Was it modified specifically for BPs benefit or did they just use existing rules?
Didn't he ban offshore drilling in the Arctic. Where was it allowed after Deepwater Horizon?
Obama may work for oil companies. Which ones?.
We'll trawl through some articles, what from (you'll like this word) corexit to 80% tax deductible fines to 1000s of people who are sick from the pollution to yes Obama giving shell the green light to dig in the Arctic!.
I don't think Obamas a bad man he just doesn't get the grilling trump gets for the same shit.
Splendid. You are telling me that Obama personally chose the oil dispersent? Perhaps the EPA made an almighty screw up? It's not my business to defend them or him. It's a big step to claim he was protecting a company that was fined $20bn. They don't mind pollutants directly into fresh water courses under the current administration. Is that an improvement.
Perhaps the lack of wide coverage just proves that if you don't act like a dick, people are nicer to you?
Drilling in Alaska is not offshore drilling which is what yiu chose to discuss. Fossil fuels were and are an important part of the US economy. He didn't vow to stop it. What he didn't do was approve drilling in national parks as Trump is.
How about addressing some of the assertions that you made with some actual information?
Are you telling me that the Republicans did not question everything that Obama did down to his actual nationality and religion because...you know what...Obama sounds a bit like Osama..
No I'm saying when your fine is 80% tax deductible your really only paying 20% as the 80% there'd have paid in tax anyway.
So, again, is that the law as it stands in the US? Is it still?
Should it have been changed specifically?
Would trying to kill one of the biggest companies of one of your closest allies be politic?.
He had powers in his remit."It was the law. It is the law. He should have changed the law specifically for this purpose to go after one company which would have put one of his country's closest allies in a position acute embarrassment? OK | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact ! Real American people living in America disagree with you on that. I watched the "Ed Balls in Trumpland" programme recently on telly and the average wage factory workers Ed Balls interviewed in the programme said they were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets because of Trumps tax cut. Remind us again how low your opinion of Ed Balls used to be.. Was it a poll you refer to? Straws and clutching hmm.. " But there is a point. However much many dislike Trump, and I definitely do, He does have a strong appeal for many others. We really need to put much more effort into understanding exactly what that appeal actually is if we want to successfully combat it. Just dismissing it with comments like "they're all Rednecks and thick as pig shit", even if true, won't help. | |||
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"I assume the OP is being ironic in part. But sadly he had a good chance of a second term. His supporters don’t seem to give a shit about what he does or says. And simply don’t believe in any facts, such as the ballooning US national debt, climate change etc etc. How was the debt under the previous President and employment levels, economy etc? That would be a true measure in my eyes. Climate change he’s just a wanker for that? Anyone can see it. Basically the OP is trolling as per usual as the economy under Obama had increased for 52 straight months before trump took charge... Basically trump has managed not to screw it all up whilst giving his rich friends a massive tax cut... Trump gave everyone a tax cut, not just the rich. With the cost of inflation, the average common person is getting an average of 60 dollars more per year for physical year 2018, because of his tax cut, but the weathiest are getting an average of 52.000 dollars more per year. Per the government tax analyst. Trump is for the wealthy and powerful, and he doesn't care about anyone else! He is a racist lying scumbag just like his father, always was, and always will be, and that is a fact ! Anyone that thinks otherwise isn't very intelligent, and that's also a fact ! Real American people living in America disagree with you on that. I watched the "Ed Balls in Trumpland" programme recently on telly and the average wage factory workers Ed Balls interviewed in the programme said they were at least $100 dollars better off in their pay packets because of Trumps tax cut. Remind us again how low your opinion of Ed Balls used to be.. Was it a poll you refer to? Straws and clutching hmm.. But there is a point. However much many dislike Trump, and I definitely do, He does have a strong appeal for many others. We really need to put much more effort into understanding exactly what that appeal actually is if we want to successfully combat it. Just dismissing it with comments like "they're all Rednecks and thick as pig shit", even if true, won't help. " Absolutely | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him"I don't see that at all. I see the media doing its job of holding him to account. As for the affair with the porn star; that's incidental but relevant to the real story, which is that he broke the campaigning laws when he made her money. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010.
Yes but if you look at it in a alternate way they are the same. They really are. And anyone who says they're not the same is just part of the MSM fake news conspiracy.
"Polls again, lol, remember when I posted a poll which showed Trump on a 50% approval rating not so long ago, how quick the Trump haters were to dismiss it, haha. The mid term elections coming up will be a real time indicator of Trumps popularity and how he is doing. Trump haters all over this forum are going to be in for a big shock again, as they were on election night in 2016. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
I don't see that at all.
I see the media doing its job of holding him to account. As for the affair with the porn star; that's incidental but relevant to the real story, which is that he broke the campaigning laws when he made her money.
". He didn't break any campaigning laws hence why he's not been convicted of anything, you've been listening to CNN to much, which was my point all along | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
I don't see that at all.
I see the media doing its job of holding him to account. As for the affair with the porn star; that's incidental but relevant to the real story, which is that he broke the campaigning laws when he made her money.
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He didn't break any campaigning laws hence why he's not been convicted of anything, you've been listening to CNN to much, which was my point all along "the problem is you get caught out originally on a lie... then doubled down on the lie... the passed it off as "fake" when confronted on lie... that sounds like the playbook of your hero....
the "convention" is that you don't indite a sitting president.... what cohen pleaded guilty to was a charge of "illegal campaign contributions designed to influence an election" ($130,000 payment to stormy daniels) and a charge of "excessive campaign contributions designed to influence an election" (the $150,000 payment made to karen mcdougal, funnelled via the publishers of the national enquirer to kill the story)
on both charge cohen said under oath when pleading guilty that it was done at the direction "of someone running in a federal election"
Trump is basically an "unindited co-conspiritor".... | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010.
Yes but if you look at it in a alternate way they are the same. They really are. And anyone who says they're not the same is just part of the MSM fake news conspiracy.
Polls again, lol, remember when I posted a poll which showed Trump on a 50% approval rating not so long ago, how quick the Trump haters were to dismiss it, haha. The mid term elections coming up will be a real time indicator of Trumps popularity and how he is doing. Trump haters all over this forum are going to be in for a big shock again, as they were on election night in 2016. "Trump prefers polls worded like this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-approval-poll-offers-no-negative-options/ A loaded question gives you a loaded answer and the commissioning publication can ignore inconvenient results. "The joint fundraising committee of President Trump's reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee released a three-question "Inaugural Year Approval Poll" that offers readers no option to give a negative assessment of the president's first year in office. The only options for "how would you rate President Trump's first year in office" are "great," "good," "okay" and "other." Visitors are also asked the same question of former President Barack Obama's first year in office, but that question provides "poor" as an additional response option. The third and last question the survey asks, "Do you believe the Fake News Media will fairly cover President Trump's first year approval rating?" with the options of "yes," "no" and "other." | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
I don't see that at all.
I see the media doing its job of holding him to account. As for the affair with the porn star; that's incidental but relevant to the real story, which is that he broke the campaigning laws when he made her money.
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He didn't break any campaigning laws hence why he's not been convicted of anything, you've been listening to CNN to much, which was my point all along
the problem is you get caught out originally on a lie... then doubled down on the lie... the passed it off as "fake" when confronted on lie...
that sounds like the playbook of your hero....
the "convention" is that you don't indite a sitting president.... what cohen pleaded guilty to was a charge of "illegal campaign contributions designed to influence an election" ($130,000 payment to stormy daniels) and a charge of "excessive campaign contributions designed to influence an election" (the $150,000 payment made to karen mcdougal, funnelled via the publishers of the national enquirer to kill the story)
on both charge cohen said under oath when pleading guilty that it was done at the direction "of someone running in a federal election"
Trump is basically an "unindited co-conspiritor".... ". So your doubling down that he's guilty but can't be charged with anything? Or that somebody else is guilty but he says it's not him but the other guy which again is meaning he's not guilty of any campaign law violations. Your like the same people two years ago banging on about Russia and collusion or twitter and Russian bots. You are CNN desperate to impeach him on anything and failing desperately. | |||
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" Polls again, lol, remember when I posted a poll which showed Trump on a 50% approval rating not so long ago, how quick the Trump haters were to dismiss it, haha. The mid term elections coming up will be a real time indicator of Trumps popularity and how he is doing. Trump haters all over this forum are going to be in for a big shock again, as they were on election night in 2016. "the reason why people scoffed that you were lauding over the 1 50% approval rating was that it was the rasmussen/fox news poll... and they are about 10% higher in their polls than the other 26 polls they use in the tracker polls.... (they are very much the outlier) if you think trump is really going to have a great midterm election then please be with me on the night of november 6th.. and i will specially open up a thread for you and you can gloat as much as you like.... in fact... if you feel the confident, would you care to wager money on it... since the republican have control of the house at the moment (23 seat advantage)..... if the republicans the will retain, I will give a pound to a charity of your choice, for each person they retain the house by...... if not.... i expect you to do the same, pound for every member the democrats have a majority by.... and i'll name the charity now,.. hope not hate!
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" the problem is you get caught out originally on a lie... then doubled down on the lie... the passed it off as "fake" when confronted on lie... that sounds like the playbook of your hero....
the "convention" is that you don't indite a sitting president.... what cohen pleaded guilty to was a charge of "illegal campaign contributions designed to influence an election" ($130,000 payment to stormy daniels) and a charge of "excessive campaign contributions designed to influence an election" (the $150,000 payment made to karen mcdougal, funnelled via the publishers of the national enquirer to kill the story)
on both charge cohen said under oath when pleading guilty that it was done at the direction "of someone running in a federal election"
Trump is basically an "unindited co-conspiritor".... .
So your doubling down that he's guilty but can't be charged with anything? Or that somebody else is guilty but he says it's not him but the other guy which again is meaning he's not guilty of any campaign law violations.
Your like the same people two years ago banging on about Russia and collusion or twitter and Russian bots.
You are CNN desperate to impeach him on anything and failing desperately.
"see... you think i want him impeached...this may surprise you i actually don't... i'd rather that people knew he tried to obstruct justice (which is where i think this is personally going) and let the people vote him out.... but i think he would walk before he let that happen what he is basically doing at the moment is setting up his excuses for if the midterms goes miserably for him the lovely thing is that you cant charge a sitting president, but it doesn't mean you can't charge and outgoing president, and the statute of limitations on this one is a while... a long while! it doesn't protect him from the civil cases as well... so i want to see avenatti depose trump, that will make for brilliant tv... lol see... the reason why i am surprised that Cohen said it is that i am surprised that SDNY (Southern District of New York... the federal prosecutors) let him say that under oath as part of the plea deal otherwise he would be committing perjury... and they would let his purjur himself if they then had to use him in a later case....... | |||
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" Polls again, lol, remember when I posted a poll which showed Trump on a 50% approval rating not so long ago, how quick the Trump haters were to dismiss it, haha. The mid term elections coming up will be a real time indicator of Trumps popularity and how he is doing. Trump haters all over this forum are going to be in for a big shock again, as they were on election night in 2016.
the reason why people scoffed that you were lauding over the 1 50% approval rating was that it was the rasmussen/fox news poll... and they are about 10% higher in their polls than the other 26 polls they use in the tracker polls.... (they are very much the outlier)
if you think trump is really going to have a great midterm election then please be with me on the night of november 6th.. and i will specially open up a thread for you and you can gloat as much as you like....
in fact... if you feel the confident, would you care to wager money on it...
since the republican have control of the house at the moment (23 seat advantage)..... if the republicans the will retain, I will give a pound to a charity of your choice, for each person they retain the house by......
if not.... i expect you to do the same, pound for every member the democrats have a majority by.... and i'll name the charity now,.. hope not hate!
so... centy.... willing to put your money where your confidence is? "Hahahahahahahahaha! 
Don't you ever learn from your mistakes Fabio?
You sound just like you did 2 years ago on election night, boasting that Clinton had the Presidency in the bag. If anyone is too over confident here its you....exactly as you were 2 years ago. I told you then, you were too over confident and yet you still wouldn't listen, you continued to make fun of people who were watching the coverage on Fox news and said watch CNN instead, you couldn't wait to watch Trump make his speech where he would concede, blah, blah, blah and were left with egg all over your face when the results came in, in the morning. I thought you would have learned your lesson from that night but yet here you are 2 years later displaying the same bolshy, arrogant attitude that you did before. Only a fool and a moron doesn't learn from past mistakes, and it's crystal clear you haven't leant from yours.
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" Polls again, lol, remember when I posted a poll which showed Trump on a 50% approval rating not so long ago, how quick the Trump haters were to dismiss it, haha. The mid term elections coming up will be a real time indicator of Trumps popularity and how he is doing. Trump haters all over this forum are going to be in for a big shock again, as they were on election night in 2016.
the reason why people scoffed that you were lauding over the 1 50% approval rating was that it was the rasmussen/fox news poll... and they are about 10% higher in their polls than the other 26 polls they use in the tracker polls.... (they are very much the outlier)
if you think trump is really going to have a great midterm election then please be with me on the night of november 6th.. and i will specially open up a thread for you and you can gloat as much as you like....
in fact... if you feel the confident, would you care to wager money on it...
since the republican have control of the house at the moment (23 seat advantage)..... if the republicans the will retain, I will give a pound to a charity of your choice, for each person they retain the house by......
if not.... i expect you to do the same, pound for every member the democrats have a majority by.... and i'll name the charity now,.. hope not hate!
so... centy.... willing to put your money where your confidence is?
Hahahahahahahahaha!
Don't you ever learn from your mistakes Fabio?
You sound just like you did 2 years ago on election night, boasting that Clinton had the Presidency in the bag. If anyone is too over confident here its you....exactly as you were 2 years ago. I told you then, you were too over confident and yet you still wouldn't listen, you continued to make fun of people who were watching the coverage on Fox news and said watch CNN instead, you couldn't wait to watch Trump make his speech where he would concede, blah, blah, blah and were left with egg all over your face when the results came in, in the morning. I thought you would have learned your lesson from that night but yet here you are 2 years later displaying the same bolshy, arrogant attitude that you did before. Only a fool and a moron doesn't learn from past mistakes, and it's crystal clear you haven't leant from yours.
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Don't you ever learn from your mistakes Fabio?
You sound just like you did 2 years ago on election night, boasting that Clinton had the Presidency in the bag. If anyone is too over confident here its you....exactly as you were 2 years ago. I told you then, you were too over confident and yet you still wouldn't listen, you continued to make fun of people who were watching the coverage on Fox news and said watch CNN instead, you couldn't wait to watch Trump make his speech where he would concede, blah, blah, blah and were left with egg all over your face when the results came in, in the morning. I thought you would have learned your lesson from that night but yet here you are 2 years later displaying the same bolshy, arrogant attitude that you did before. Only a fool and a moron doesn't learn from past mistakes, and it's crystal clear you haven't leant from yours.
"see... the interesting thing is that you didn't didn't take me up on the bet then... and you accused me of trying to intimidate you off the site.... and you clearly still don't have the confidence to take up the bet now..... after all... money is going to charity... right?????
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010.
new trump approval ratings in amongst black americans....
a whopping 3% approval rating.....
i am surprised its that high!!!
his spat with omarosa must have taken its toll!!! okay i am kidding.... thats basically the black community version of two bald people fighting over a comb!!!
....and when you go at lebron james and call him dumb the very week he opens a new public school and gives university schlorships with his own money! not good...
can we say that the "black outreach" program is well and trueley over....
i am sure the usual suspects will stick up for him"Why do you/we/media sustain such silly racial divisions based on the skin colour of celebrities? This kind of crap is part of the problem...divided nation, confused voters, trivial wins for "your" side occluding the big picture issues and thus urging turkeys to vote for Christmas. | |||
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" the problem is you get caught out originally on a lie... then doubled down on the lie... the passed it off as "fake" when confronted on lie... that sounds like the playbook of your hero....
the "convention" is that you don't indite a sitting president.... what cohen pleaded guilty to was a charge of "illegal campaign contributions designed to influence an election" ($130,000 payment to stormy daniels) and a charge of "excessive campaign contributions designed to influence an election" (the $150,000 payment made to karen mcdougal, funnelled via the publishers of the national enquirer to kill the story)
on both charge cohen said under oath when pleading guilty that it was done at the direction "of someone running in a federal election"
Trump is basically an "unindited co-conspiritor".... .
So your doubling down that he's guilty but can't be charged with anything? Or that somebody else is guilty but he says it's not him but the other guy which again is meaning he's not guilty of any campaign law violations.
Your like the same people two years ago banging on about Russia and collusion or twitter and Russian bots.
You are CNN desperate to impeach him on anything and failing desperately.
see... you think i want him impeached...this may surprise you i actually don't... i'd rather that people knew he tried to obstruct justice (which is where i think this is personally going) and let the people vote him out.... but i think he would walk before he let that happen
what he is basically doing at the moment is setting up his excuses for if the midterms goes miserably for him
the lovely thing is that you cant charge a sitting president, but it doesn't mean you can't charge and outgoing president, and the statute of limitations on this one is a while... a long while!
it doesn't protect him from the civil cases as well... so i want to see avenatti depose trump, that will make for brilliant tv... lol
see... the reason why i am surprised that Cohen said it is that i am surprised that SDNY (Southern District of New York... the federal prosecutors) let him say that under oath as part of the plea deal otherwise he would be committing perjury... and they would let his purjur himself if they then had to use him in a later case.......". He won't be impeached and he'll never face charges either and personally I think he'll win a second term. I don't actually particularly like the guy, he's a typical yank (over brash and to much talk) for my liking | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
I don't see that at all.
I see the media doing its job of holding him to account. As for the affair with the porn star; that's incidental but relevant to the real story, which is that he broke the campaigning laws when he made her money.
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He didn't break any campaigning laws hence why he's not been convicted of anything, you've been listening to CNN to much, which was my point all along "Silly me. I forgot that any news is fake news now days if it doesn't agree with the AltTruth of Trump and his supporters. | |||
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" the problem is you get caught out originally on a lie... then doubled down on the lie... the passed it off as "fake" when confronted on lie... that sounds like the playbook of your hero....
the "convention" is that you don't indite a sitting president.... what cohen pleaded guilty to was a charge of "illegal campaign contributions designed to influence an election" ($130,000 payment to stormy daniels) and a charge of "excessive campaign contributions designed to influence an election" (the $150,000 payment made to karen mcdougal, funnelled via the publishers of the national enquirer to kill the story)
on both charge cohen said under oath when pleading guilty that it was done at the direction "of someone running in a federal election"
Trump is basically an "unindited co-conspiritor".... .
So your doubling down that he's guilty but can't be charged with anything? Or that somebody else is guilty but he says it's not him but the other guy which again is meaning he's not guilty of any campaign law violations.
Your like the same people two years ago banging on about Russia and collusion or twitter and Russian bots.
You are CNN desperate to impeach him on anything and failing desperately.
see... you think i want him impeached...this may surprise you i actually don't... i'd rather that people knew he tried to obstruct justice (which is where i think this is personally going) and let the people vote him out.... but i think he would walk before he let that happen
what he is basically doing at the moment is setting up his excuses for if the midterms goes miserably for him
the lovely thing is that you cant charge a sitting president, but it doesn't mean you can't charge and outgoing president, and the statute of limitations on this one is a while... a long while!
it doesn't protect him from the civil cases as well... so i want to see avenatti depose trump, that will make for brilliant tv... lol
see... the reason why i am surprised that Cohen said it is that i am surprised that SDNY (Southern District of New York... the federal prosecutors) let him say that under oath as part of the plea deal otherwise he would be committing perjury... and they would let his purjur himself if they then had to use him in a later case........
He won't be impeached and he'll never face charges either and personally I think he'll win a second term.
I don't actually particularly like the guy, he's a typical yank (over brash and to much talk) for my liking"I think there is a fair chance he may be impeached, especially if the Democrats do well in the mid term elections. However impeachment is only half the process. An impeached President is still the President. He would also have to convicted by a court of law and, in this case, the court of law is the Senate of The United States. That could be a much harder hurdle to breach. Remember Clinton was impeached but never convicted and went on to serve his fool term after the impeachment. | |||
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" the problem is you get caught out originally on a lie... then doubled down on the lie... the passed it off as "fake" when confronted on lie... that sounds like the playbook of your hero....
the "convention" is that you don't indite a sitting president.... what cohen pleaded guilty to was a charge of "illegal campaign contributions
designed to influence an election" ($130,000
payment to stormy daniels) and a charge of
"excessive campaign contributions designed to
influence an election" (the $150,000 payment
made to karen mcdougal, funnelled via the
publishers of the national enquirer to kill the story)
on both charge cohen said under oath when pleading guilty that it was done at the directior "of
someone running in a federal election"
Trump is basically an "unindited co-conspiritor".... .
So your doubling down that he's guilty but can't be charged with anything? Or that somebody else is guilty but he says it's not him but the other guy which again is meaning he's not guilty
of any campaign law violations.
Your like the same people two years ago banging on about Russia and collusion or twitter and Russian bots.
You are CNN desperate to impeach him on anything and failing desperately.
see... you think i want him impeached...this may
surprise you i actually don't... i'd rather that
people knew he tried to obstruct justice (which is
where i think this is personally going) and let the
people vote him out.... but i think he would walk
before he let that happen
what he is basically doing at the moment is setting up his excuses for if the midterms goes miserably for him
the lovely thing is that you cant charge a sitting president, but it doesn't mean you can't charge and outgoing president, and the statute of limitations on this one is a while... a long while!
it doesn't protect him from the civil cases as well... so i want to see avenatti depose trump, that will make for brilliant tv... lol
see... the reason why i am surprised that Cohen said it is that i am surprised that SDNY (Southern District of New York... the federal prosecutors) let him say that under oath as part of the plea deal
otherwise he would be committing perjury... and
they would let his purjur himself if they then had
to use him in a later case........
He won't be impeached and he'll never face charges either and personally I think he'll win a second term.
I don't actually particularly like the guy, he's a typical yank (over brash and to much talk) for my liking
I think there is a fair chance he may be impeached, especially if the Democrats do well in
the mid term elections. However impeachment is
only half the process. An impeached President is
still the President. He would also have to
convicted by a court of law and, in this case, the
court of law is the Senate of The United States.
That could be a much harder hurdle to breach.
Remember Clinton was impeached but never
convicted and went on to serve his fool term
after the impeachment."Trump may be put through an impeachment hearing and subsequent impeachment trial. But, to be impeached and lose his position as president, he must be convicted of a crime by the Senate, then vice president Pence would take over as president until the general presidenial election in November 2020. Clinton was never impeached, he was acquitted of all charges. | |||
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"His approval rating is at an all time low . It's the same as Obamas at this stage of his term. Trump's is 36% approve vs Obama's 45% in Aug 2010. .
His average for the last quarter which is how it's measured was 41% near enough exactly the same as Obamas.
And this despite the medias absolute obsession with reporting every bit of nonsense and conspiracy theory they can, awhile ago CNN ran a piece on how unhealthy the "12" diet s he drinks a day are(despite never mentioning Obamas smoking habit) they had a bonafide doctor on and everything, then they went out in the street to see if anybody else eats Kentucky fried chicken with a knife and fork??(breaking news), then there's the absolute obsession in wether he's had an affair (not in office but a yonks old affair) which is pretty much every night on CNN despite it just being the word of a porn star (i don't remember them going on and on about the guy who claimed Obama bought him cocaine and took it while he performed oral on him, do you?).
I'm not of the opinion that trump's perfect or even far from perfect but anybody can see ALL the media is completely on a witch hunt for him
I don't see that at all.
I see the media doing its job of holding him to account. As for the affair with the porn star; that's incidental but relevant to the real story, which is that he broke the campaigning laws when he made her money.
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He didn't break any campaigning laws hence why he's not been convicted of anything, you've been listening to CNN to much, which was my point all along
Silly me. I forgot that any news is fake news now days if it doesn't agree with the AltTruth of Trump and his supporters.
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"Libtards will always hate on a leader who puts his own country first. Especially if said leader doesn’t follow their self loathing and pathetic pc narrative. Trump has recognised the fact that the US has not only had to police the world since WW2, but that they have also had to pay for keeping other countries safe. He knows that South American’s are entering the US illegally in their millions every year, and aims to put a stop to them. He has identified the weaknesses of the previous regime and is showing the world that America is still great. As I have said, more than once, I just wish we had a prime minister just like America’s president. "Blimey. Anyone who wishes for a PM like Trump is several sandwiches short of a picnic. Divisive, racist and misogynist politicians are not to be admired. He's not making America great again | |||
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"Odds of Trump being impeached are now cut to 6/4. A poll out from The Post and ABC on Friday shows that 60 per cent of voters disapprove of the job he's doing as president, a new low." . You should cash in and make a killing like I did when I was offered 25-1 on trump being president. Best £50 I ever layed | |||
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"Odds of Trump being impeached are now cut to 6/4. A poll out from The Post and ABC on Friday shows that 60 per cent of voters disapprove of the job he's doing as president, a new low.. You should cash in and make a killing like I did when I was offered 25-1 on trump being president. Best £50 I ever layed "With your Bitcoin investment and your ability to predict the future you'll be a millionaire this time next year. | |||
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"Odds of Trump being impeached are now cut to 6/4. A poll out from The Post and ABC on Friday shows that 60 per cent of voters disapprove of the job he's doing as president, a new low.. You should cash in and make a killing like I did when I was offered 25-1 on trump being president. Best £50 I ever layed
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"If you really want to see trump derangement syndrome in full force look no further than Adam Schiff who five years ago when Obama was the president tried to introduce a bill for greater fisa accountability and presidential oversight. A republican then reintroduced his bill word for word and Schiff wouldn't even back his own bill. Lol " The Republicans did the same thing with Obama's public spending bill to stimulate the post-crash economy. They said it would make the budget deficit too big. Now we have a huge tax cut and a ballooning budget deficit. That's partisan politics. Hypocrisy is practiced liberally by all. | |||
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"Libtards will always hate on a leader who puts his own country first. Especially if said leader doesn’t follow their self loathing and pathetic pc narrative. Trump has recognised the fact that the US has not only had to police the world since WW2, but that they have also had to pay for keeping other countries safe. He knows that South American’s are entering the US illegally in their millions every year, and aims to put a stop to them. He has identified the weaknesses of the previous regime and is showing the world that America is still great. As I have said, more than once, I just wish we had a prime minister just like America’s president.
Blimey. Anyone who wishes for a PM like Trump is several sandwiches short of a picnic. Divisive, racist and misogynist politicians are not to be admired. He's not making America great again"I thought you liked corbyn, two out of three aint bad and I dont know about his misogynistic views, anyone who shags old Diane Abbott must be pretty liberal tho | |||
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"Interesting news that kaepernick the guy who knelt in protest of racism and o violence against African Americans by the police officers has become part of the new Nike adverts which show Kaepernick with the slogan: "Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything." Trump isn't going to like it." There will be a Tweet | |||
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Trump supporters took the definition of being a snowflake to a whole new level ,they have posted videos of themselves destroying their Nike gear by setting it on fire after the brand announced a deal Colin Kaepernick. "For balance the left did this with New Balance for some reason. I don’t know where to turn these days as I collect both Nike and NB perhaps if I wear one on each foot I can get away with being middle of the road. I never understand the burning of inanimate objects you already own. Just don’t buy them or wear them in future. Burning them after you paid for them is going to hit them hard in their pocket for sure. | |||
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"If you really want to see trump derangement syndrome in full force look no further than Adam Schiff who five years ago when Obama was the president tried to introduce a bill for greater fisa accountability and presidential oversight. A republican then reintroduced his bill word for word and Schiff wouldn't even back his own bill. Lol The Republicans did the same thing with Obama's public spending bill to stimulate the post-crash economy. They said it would make the budget deficit too big. Now we have a huge tax cut and a ballooning budget deficit. That's partisan politics. Hypocrisy is practiced liberally by all." . Yes I know what you mean but no that's not even close to the same thing, this guy wouldn't even back his own bill that he thought was a great idea under Obama when Obama wanted to shall we say punish whistleblowers and wikileaks, now it's trump he's not so keen | |||
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"Interesting news that kaepernick the guy who knelt in protest of racism and o violence against African Americans by the police officers has become part of the new Nike adverts which show Kaepernick with the slogan: "Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything." Trump isn't going to like it.. What like trainers made from child labour in Vietnam but sold at extortionate rates in the West because of bullshit advert campaigns and multimillion dollar sponsorship deals!. I think something more along the lines of, Nike-we just want your money. "Indonesia, China, Taiwan, India, Thailand, Vietnam, Pakistan, Philippines, and Malaysia.All have Nike factories . Best put that phone down your typing on because the cobalt in it most likely was mined by children in the Congo in dangerous conditions and let's be honest the factory floor for all most all clothing isn't in the west Its in the east. | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment..." yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ?" Ignoring it won't make it go away unfortunately Bob, it seems racism is ok in your opinion when it's black people doing it! | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? Ignoring it won't make it go away unfortunately Bob, it seems racism is ok in your opinion when it's black people doing it! "Sorry my friend I don't feed trolls .you must think women who want only BBC are racists .The women in the thread is free to choose who she sleeps with .As is clear in the thread in the lounge.The fact you copied a comment I made in the lounge into tithe politics forum says much about you and nothing about me ,That's the last word I will say .You must want my attention .but you won't get it . | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ?" yes... basically woodward and bernstein are the journalist who basically uncovered "watergate" and brought down the nixon administration... he is basically the "journalists" journalist! he is about as close to "untouchable" as you get... which is whats is making this book fascinating... because if this was any other administration, there would have been a bloodbath going on with resignations all over the place right about now this funny thing is that woodward is about as republican as they get.. and has apparently everything either tripled sourced or on tape which is why everyone is scrambling right about now... the bits with regards to trump and charlottesville are really shocking.... so i shall be awaiting "someones" response..... | |||
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Sorry my friend I don't feed trolls .you must think women who want only BBC are racists .The women in the thread is free to choose who she sleeps with .As is clear in the thread in the lounge.The fact you copied a comment I made in the lounge into tithe politics forum says much about you and nothing about me ,That's the last word I will say .You must want my attention .but you won't get it . "It says you are a hypocrite big time! | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? yes... basically woodward and bernstein are the journalist who basically uncovered "watergate" and brought down the nixon administration... he is basically the "journalists" journalist! he is about as close to "untouchable" as you get... which is whats is making this book fascinating... because if this was any other administration, there would have been a bloodbath going on with resignations all over the place right about now this funny thing is that woodward is about as republican as they get.. and has apparently everything either tripled sourced or on tape which is why everyone is scrambling right about now... the bits with regards to trump and charlottesville are really shocking.... so i shall be awaiting "someones" response..... "It's quite damming that they apparently treat Donald like a petulant child that has to be micro managed to prevent him looking a fool and an embarresment .I wonder if this book will take him down. | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? Ignoring it won't make it go away unfortunately Bob, it seems racism is ok in your opinion when it's black people doing it!
Sorry my friend I don't feed trolls .you must think women who want only BBC are racists .The women in the thread is free to choose who she sleeps with .As is clear in the thread in the lounge.The fact you copied a comment I made in the lounge into tithe politics forum says much about you and nothing about me ,That's the last word I will say .You must want my attention .but you won't get it . "It's there as evidence! Strange that you comment about her choice, which she is of course entitled to but you make no mention of her blantantly racist views! Where is the Racist Hunter General we all know and love!? It at least smacks of double standards but maybe something a whole lot worse! | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? yes... basically woodward and bernstein are the journalist who basically uncovered "watergate" and brought down the nixon administration... he is basically the "journalists" journalist! he is about as close to "untouchable" as you get... which is whats is making this book fascinating... because if this was any other administration, there would have been a bloodbath going on with resignations all over the place right about now this funny thing is that woodward is about as republican as they get.. and has apparently everything either tripled sourced or on tape which is why everyone is scrambling right about now... the bits with regards to trump and charlottesville are really shocking.... so i shall be awaiting "someones" response.....
It's quite damming that they apparently treat Donald like a petulant child that has to be micro managed to prevent him looking a fool and an embarresment .I wonder if this book will take him down. "No it won't. We cover this regularly. People who support Trump have several layers to prevent themselves from having to admit to the evidence in front of them. Denial/"fake news" It's a conspiracy by the press/elite/liberal/security services ...but Obama... It doesn't matter because he's "making America great again"/"he's a strong leader/"he's keeping his promises" Also "la, la, la, la, I can't hear you" In short, it doesn't matter. It's like an addiction. Like gambling. He clearly has some spectacular sales technique because he has managed to get people to work for him, with him and lend him money when time after time he's proven to be unreliable and unethical. Kudos | |||
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"Interesting news that kaepernick the guy who knelt in protest of racism and o violence against African Americans by the police officers has become part of the new Nike adverts which show Kaepernick with the slogan: "Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything." Trump isn't going to like it.. What like trainers made from child labour in Vietnam but sold at extortionate rates in the West because of bullshit advert campaigns and multimillion dollar sponsorship deals!. I think something more along the lines of, Nike-we just want your money. Indonesia, China, Taiwan, India, Thailand, Vietnam, Pakistan, Philippines, and Malaysia.All have Nike factories .
Best put that phone down your typing on because the cobalt in it most likely was mined by children in the Congo in dangerous conditions and let's be honest the factory floor for all most all clothing isn't in the west Its in the east.
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? Ignoring it won't make it go away unfortunately Bob, it seems racism is ok in your opinion when it's black people doing it!
Sorry my friend I don't feed trolls .you must think women who want only BBC are racists .The women in the thread is free to choose who she sleeps with .As is clear in the thread in the lounge.The fact you copied a comment I made in the lounge into tithe politics forum says much about you and nothing about me ,That's the last word I will say .You must want my attention .but you won't get it .
It's there as evidence!
Strange that you comment about her choice, which she is of course entitled to but you make no mention of her blantantly racist views! Where is the Racist Hunter General we all know and love!?
It at least smacks of double standards but maybe something a whole lot worse! "Oh didn't you know already, double standards and hypocrisy are par for the course on here for the likes of Bob and his lefty friends. Standard. | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? yes... basically woodward and bernstein are the journalist who basically uncovered "watergate" and brought down the nixon administration... he is basically the "journalists" journalist! he is about as close to "untouchable" as you get... which is whats is making this book fascinating... because if this was any other administration, there would have been a bloodbath going on with resignations all over the place right about now this funny thing is that woodward is about as republican as they get.. and has apparently everything either tripled sourced or on tape which is why everyone is scrambling right about now... the bits with regards to trump and charlottesville are really shocking.... so i shall be awaiting "someones" response.....
It's quite damming that they apparently treat Donald like a petulant child that has to be micro managed to prevent him looking a fool and an embarresment .I wonder if this book will take him down.
No it won't.
We cover this regularly. People who support Trump have several layers to prevent themselves from having to admit to the evidence in front of them.
Denial/"fake news"
It's a conspiracy by the press/elite/liberal/security services
...but Obama...
It doesn't matter because he's "making America great again"/"he's a strong leader/"he's keeping his promises"
Also "la, la, la, la, I can't hear you"
In short, it doesn't matter. It's like an addiction. Like gambling. He clearly has some spectacular sales technique because he has managed to get people to work for him, with him and lend him money when time after time he's proven to be unreliable and unethical.
Kudos "Just change the word Trump for Corbyn and you could just as easily be referring to Corbynistas and the Corbyn cult here in the UK. People who support Corbyn have several layers to prevent themselves from having to admit to the evidence in front of them. Denial/or fake news from the rabid right wing media. It's a conspiracy by the press/elite/establishment/media Deflection as is evidently the case on the 'Labour MP resigns' thread where people say, ......But ukip.....or, but the Tories (you even engaged in this deflection yourself). It doesn't matter because he's a strong leader/he's challenging the Blairites/he's a real socialist not a red Tory, blah, blah, blah. Also, la, la, la, la, I can't hear you. In short It doesn't matter. It's like an addiction, like some gambling, etc Kudos | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? Ignoring it won't make it go away unfortunately Bob, it seems racism is ok in your opinion when it's black people doing it!
Sorry my friend I don't feed trolls .you must think women who want only BBC are racists .The women in the thread is free to choose who she sleeps with .As is clear in the thread in the lounge.The fact you copied a comment I made in the lounge into tithe politics forum says much about you and nothing about me ,That's the last word I will say .You must want my attention .but you won't get it .
It's there as evidence!
Strange that you comment about her choice, which she is of course entitled to but you make no mention of her blantantly racist views! Where is the Racist Hunter General we all know and love!?
It at least smacks of double standards but maybe something a whole lot worse!
Oh didn't you know already, double standards and hypocrisy are par for the course on here for the likes of Bob and his lefty friends. Standard. "I knew it, it's just nice to be able to prove it! Everyone else on the thread condemns her attitude has racist but the man who to quote his own words "calls out racism wherever he sees it" doesn't, perhaps a trip to Specsavers is needed! | |||
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"parts of the bob woodward book on the president trump and the whitehouse are being leaked... some of the stuff in there is spectactular...... i am enjoying my popcorn at the moment... yes I saw that on the news isn't that the guy that brought down Nixon .Hes quite a respected writer/journalist isn't he ? yes... basically woodward and bernstein are the journalist who basically uncovered "watergate" and brought down the nixon administration... he is basically the "journalists" journalist! he is about as close to "untouchable" as you get... which is whats is making this book fascinating... because if this was any other administration, there would have been a bloodbath going on with resignations all over the place right about now this funny thing is that woodward is about as republican as they get.. and has apparently everything either tripled sourced or on tape which is why everyone is scrambling right about now... the bits with regards to trump and charlottesville are really shocking.... so i shall be awaiting "someones" response.....
It's quite damming that they apparently treat Donald like a petulant child that has to be micro managed to prevent him looking a fool and an embarresment .I wonder if this book will take him down.
No it won't.
We cover this regularly. People who support Trump have several layers to prevent themselves from having to admit to the evidence in front of them.
Denial/"fake news"
It's a conspiracy by the press/elite/liberal/security services
...but Obama...
It doesn't matter because he's "making America great again"/"he's a strong leader/"he's keeping his promises"
Also "la, la, la, la, I can't hear you"
In short, it doesn't matter. It's like an addiction. Like gambling. He clearly has some spectacular sales technique because he has managed to get people to work for him, with him and lend him money when time after time he's proven to be unreliable and unethical.
Kudos
Just change the word Trump for Corbyn and you could just as easily be referring to Corbynistas and the Corbyn cult here in the UK.
People who support Corbyn have several layers to prevent themselves from having to admit to the evidence in front of them.
Denial/or fake news from the rabid right wing media.
It's a conspiracy by the press/elite/establishment/media
Deflection as is evidently the case on the 'Labour MP resigns' thread where people say, ......But ukip.....or, but the Tories (you even engaged in this deflection yourself).
It doesn't matter because he's a strong leader/he's challenging the Blairites/he's a real socialist not a red Tory, blah, blah, blah.
Also, la, la, la, la, I can't hear you.
In short It doesn't matter. It's like an addiction, like some gambling, etc
Kudos "...and Brexit. Centaur, you have never been able to acknowledge any problem with what Trump says or does, or any weakness with Brexit or any benefits of the EU or positive Corbyn policies. That is not credible. That is self-delusion | |||
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"Just pre-ordered "Fear - Trump in the Whitehouse " - written by the guy who exposed Nixon and Watergate. It's already been "rubbished" by Trump as "disgruntled ex-employees " but will be an interesting read! Don't get it until 11/9 - but looking forward to it!" Michael Moore has his film Fahrenheit 11/9 out on the same date .Trump will be in meltdown on twitter that week. | |||
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"Just pre-ordered "Fear - Trump in the Whitehouse " - written by the guy who exposed Nixon and Watergate. It's already been "rubbished" by Trump as "disgruntled ex-employees " but will be an interesting read! Don't get it until 11/9 - but looking forward to it!" seen some of the explosive quotes already reported... i was awaiting to hear centy's spin with regard to trump and the charlottesville quotes... to see if he would follow the line of his hero..... the one thing woodward does is his research, and if it is true that he has hundreds of hours of recording of interviews to triple cross everything... its super damning... trump might like to think he can pick fights with journalists and win... he is never going to win in any spat against woodward! you going to believe trump.. or half the team that brought down an entire government!!!! | |||
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"Just pre-ordered "Fear - Trump in the Whitehouse " - written by the guy who exposed Nixon and Watergate. It's already been "rubbished" by Trump as "disgruntled ex-employees " but will be an interesting read! Don't get it until 11/9 - but looking forward to it! seen some of the explosive quotes already reported... i was awaiting to hear centy's spin with regard to trump and the charlottesville quotes... to see if he would follow the line of his hero..... the one thing woodward does is his research, and if it is true that he has hundreds of hours of recording of interviews to triple cross everything... its super damning... trump might like to think he can pick fights with journalists and win... he is never going to win in any spat against woodward! you going to believe trump.. or half the team that brought down an entire government!!!! " #crooked donald lock him up | |||
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