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"what high street crisis? " Um the lack of shops. Chains closing etc. I know wthe way people shop are changing but it's not for the greater good. I don't trust online banking. Prefer to speak to people face to face and where does your shop keeper go when they need change lol x | |||
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"what high street crisis? Um the lack of shops. Chains closing etc. I know wthe way people shop are changing but it's not for the greater good. I don't trust online banking. Prefer to speak to people face to face and where does your shop keeper go when they need change lol x" well peterborough sounds like a right little ray of sunshine ... maybe they should relocate those folks from the east end london tenements that they're evicting into the place to give it some vibrancy ![]() | |||
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"what high street crisis? Um the lack of shops. Chains closing etc. I know wthe way people shop are changing but it's not for the greater good. I don't trust online banking. Prefer to speak to people face to face and where does your shop keeper go when they need change lol x well peterborough sounds like a right little ray of sunshine ... maybe they should relocate those folks from the east end london tenements that they're evicting into the place to give it some vibrancy ![]() Have you seen Peterborough town centre can't even get in it for the amount of bloody roadworks lol its horrendous and going to be like this for next 6 months by then we won't have nothing left lol x | |||
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"Unfortunately it's the "system " that is at fault! Year after year rents and business rates rise and businesses have to pay it. That's a huge cost and business income has to cover all these. There comes a time when you actually reach the limit and this is what has happened! The public want everything for nothing and the business owner needs a profit. We see it in a shop at "x" and then we go on line for a cheaper deal! Not a fair playing field but then who cares we want it cheap! So it's us the public are partly to blame. You reap what you sow!" This.. Watching the inevitable news piece as another high street icon bites the dust with people waxing lyrically about how important said shop is and its a shame there never appears to be the obvious follow up questions on just who shops there and who is using online only.. Society and shoping is changing with such things like smart meters, self check outs and to a point online banking and online shopping but with all this so called progress there are consequences and job losses.. | |||
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"For the high street crisis. With local branches closing. There is less need to go into town. Interest rates and the lack of lending to small businesses. Do you know who your local bank manger is I dont and do you have a good relationship with them. Thoughts please x" All stems from credit crunch. Yes it is partly the banks fault but also the people who took out the loans and mortgages they couldn’t afford. This blame isn’t just on the banks. As for banks and shops closing, people are becoming ever more so lazy. Most things can be done online now and shops even offer same day delivery. Why go outside in the cold wet and wind when you can stay inside with a cuppa? Given that the uk weather is usually horrible. I know who my bank manager is and have a great relationship with him. Mind you I have known him before he became the bank manager at the branch. You could just book a appointment with him/her? From then on it will be easier. | |||
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"Personally I blame the councils rather than the banks. Where I used to live there are at least 4 coffee shops, numerous charity shops and mobile shops. Could I buy clothes in that town for my age........nope. Therefore forcing shoppers to go elsewhere for some basics. " How is that the council's fault? | |||
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"My town centre has been killed off by having four large "one stop" supermarkets within a mile, sky high rents, Draconian parking restrictions and the ease and convenience of online shopping. I do all of my banking online. It's instantaneous and safe. I visited my bank twice last year. " Internet banking is not safe,nothing on the net is safe.I go to my branch every week,get the cash I need and check my account simple. | |||
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"My town centre has been killed off by having four large "one stop" supermarkets within a mile, sky high rents, Draconian parking restrictions and the ease and convenience of online shopping. I do all of my banking online. It's instantaneous and safe. I visited my bank twice last year. Internet banking is not safe,nothing on the net is safe.I go to my branch every week,get the cash I need and check my account simple." Yet here you are on the internet? Internet banking has certain safeguards built in. Providing you follow the guidelines and don't do anything silly, you are legally covered. | |||
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"Been to my bank today all computers down had to wait two hours to get any money out. When computers go down all hell breaks loose x" ![]() | |||
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"My town centre has been killed off by having four large "one stop" supermarkets within a mile, sky high rents, Draconian parking restrictions and the ease and convenience of online shopping. I do all of my banking online. It's instantaneous and safe. I visited my bank twice last year. Internet banking is not safe,nothing on the net is safe.I go to my branch every week,get the cash I need and check my account simple." Putting money under your mattress would be safe. Even if you don't use internet banking, isn't your account available on the net. Cashiers can access your account, transaction systems that are legacy are open. Banks run on computer systems. | |||
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"Personally I blame the councils rather than the banks. Where I used to live there are at least 4 coffee shops, numerous charity shops and mobile shops. Could I buy clothes in that town for my age........nope. Therefore forcing shoppers to go elsewhere for some basics. How is that the council's fault?" Any attempts by chains to get into the town were/are blocked by the council...... | |||
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"Of course banks are to blame! There was and is good reason why banks need to be heavily regulated. There is equally good reason that since the deregulation of the banks and financial industry that there has been a continual drip of financial scandals all of which have one thing in common. They involve fraudulent manipulation of funds and the theft of investors and depositors funds." Do borrowers have no responsibility for what they do? I think you know that I am confident that the pusher is equally culpable. | |||
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"Banks set up systems that only rewarded higher and higher levels of lending and in doing so they started lending to businesses and people who had no hope of repaying the loans. They rewarded this practice with massive bonuses,to people who were salesmen and spivs not bankers in the old fashioned way that had been prudent in the pre big bang days...In the end the house of cards collapsed and the banks had to be bailed out, They broke all the financial policies that had made them successful in the first place. In the end they are GUILTY of a massive mis management of funds. OH and of course they did not pay the price..We the working people of this land paid with years and years of redundancies, no pay rises, and dwindling monies for our social needs in the nation" Spot on.. people were being allowed to self assess their income and mortgages were being set at multiples of 6 and even 7 times the income, sheer incompetence and or deliberate bad practices.. | |||
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"Banks set up systems that only rewarded higher and higher levels of lending and in doing so they started lending to businesses and people who had no hope of repaying the loans. They rewarded this practice with massive bonuses,to people who were salesmen and spivs not bankers in the old fashioned way that had been prudent in the pre big bang days...In the end the house of cards collapsed and the banks had to be bailed out, They broke all the financial policies that had made them successful in the first place. In the end they are GUILTY of a massive mis management of funds. OH and of course they did not pay the price..We the working people of this land paid with years and years of redundancies, no pay rises, and dwindling monies for our social needs in the nation Spot on.. people were being allowed to self assess their income and mortgages were being set at multiples of 6 and even 7 times the income, sheer incompetence and or deliberate bad practices.. " Of course banks were hugely liable, but did those people who incorrectly self-assessed have no responsibility for the consequences? | |||
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"Banks set up systems that only rewarded higher and higher levels of lending and in doing so they started lending to businesses and people who had no hope of repaying the loans. They rewarded this practice with massive bonuses,to people who were salesmen and spivs not bankers in the old fashioned way that had been prudent in the pre big bang days...In the end the house of cards collapsed and the banks had to be bailed out, They broke all the financial policies that had made them successful in the first place. In the end they are GUILTY of a massive mis management of funds. OH and of course they did not pay the price..We the working people of this land paid with years and years of redundancies, no pay rises, and dwindling monies for our social needs in the nation Spot on.. people were being allowed to self assess their income and mortgages were being set at multiples of 6 and even 7 times the income, sheer incompetence and or deliberate bad practices.. Of course banks were hugely liable, but did those people who incorrectly self-assessed have no responsibility for the consequences?" Some may have done and learned from that but some never will and it won't be their fault, credit was and maybe still is too easy to abuse.. Does it go back to the loads a money mindset during thatchers time or has it always been there with some, who knows.. We were brought up with the mindset that if you can't afford it you either go without or save till you can and to live within ones means.. | |||
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"Banks set up systems that only rewarded higher and higher levels of lending and in doing so they started lending to businesses and people who had no hope of repaying the loans. They rewarded this practice with massive bonuses,to people who were salesmen and spivs not bankers in the old fashioned way that had been prudent in the pre big bang days...In the end the house of cards collapsed and the banks had to be bailed out, They broke all the financial policies that had made them successful in the first place. In the end they are GUILTY of a massive mis management of funds. OH and of course they did not pay the price..We the working people of this land paid with years and years of redundancies, no pay rises, and dwindling monies for our social needs in the nation Spot on.. people were being allowed to self assess their income and mortgages were being set at multiples of 6 and even 7 times the income, sheer incompetence and or deliberate bad practices.. Of course banks were hugely liable, but did those people who incorrectly self-assessed have no responsibility for the consequences? Some may have done and learned from that but some never will and it won't be their fault, credit was and maybe still is too easy to abuse.. Does it go back to the loads a money mindset during thatchers time or has it always been there with some, who knows.. We were brought up with the mindset that if you can't afford it you either go without or save till you can and to live within ones means.. " No personal responsibility then? | |||
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"While there are a lot of practices which are unsavoury, I’m not aware of anything fraudulent or stealing. " Of course you don't... ... Nick Leeson and Barings Bank. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae selling worthless mortageages round the world that led to the 2008 'Financial Crisies'. All the banks worldwide who have reached settlements with governments worldwide to pay for their massive frauds! Or how about the fixing of Libor? ... Does that help your memory? Or are you still unaware of any frauds or stealing? | |||
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"While there are a lot of practices which are unsavoury, I’m not aware of anything fraudulent or stealing. Of course you don't... ... Nick Leeson and Barings Bank. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae selling worthless mortageages round the world that led to the 2008 'Financial Crisies'. All the banks worldwide who have reached settlements with governments worldwide to pay for their massive frauds! Or how about the fixing of Libor? ... Does that help your memory? Or are you still unaware of any frauds or stealing?" fair comment. I will give you fraud. Whether the mortgages is fraud or stealing is debatable ... | |||
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"While there are a lot of practices which are unsavoury, I’m not aware of anything fraudulent or stealing. Of course you don't... ... Nick Leeson and Barings Bank. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae selling worthless mortageages round the world that led to the 2008 'Financial Crisies'. All the banks worldwide who have reached settlements with governments worldwide to pay for their massive frauds! Or how about the fixing of Libor? ... Does that help your memory? Or are you still unaware of any frauds or stealing?" ...and personal responsibility? The banks and politicians are guilty. What about the rest of us? Just victims? | |||
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"Banks set up systems that only rewarded higher and higher levels of lending and in doing so they started lending to businesses and people who had no hope of repaying the loans. They rewarded this practice with massive bonuses,to people who were salesmen and spivs not bankers in the old fashioned way that had been prudent in the pre big bang days...In the end the house of cards collapsed and the banks had to be bailed out, They broke all the financial policies that had made them successful in the first place. In the end they are GUILTY of a massive mis management of funds. OH and of course they did not pay the price..We the working people of this land paid with years and years of redundancies, no pay rises, and dwindling monies for our social needs in the nation Spot on.. people were being allowed to self assess their income and mortgages were being set at multiples of 6 and even 7 times the income, sheer incompetence and or deliberate bad practices.. Of course banks were hugely liable, but did those people who incorrectly self-assessed have no responsibility for the consequences? Some may have done and learned from that but some never will and it won't be their fault, credit was and maybe still is too easy to abuse.. Does it go back to the loads a money mindset during thatchers time or has it always been there with some, who knows.. We were brought up with the mindset that if you can't afford it you either go without or save till you can and to live within ones means.. No personal responsibility then?" First paragraph | |||
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"While there are a lot of practices which are unsavoury, I’m not aware of anything fraudulent or stealing. Of course you don't... ... Nick Leeson and Barings Bank. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae selling worthless mortageages round the world that led to the 2008 'Financial Crisies'. All the banks worldwide who have reached settlements with governments worldwide to pay for their massive frauds! Or how about the fixing of Libor? ... Does that help your memory? Or are you still unaware of any frauds or stealing? ...and personal responsibility? The banks and politicians are guilty. What about the rest of us? Just victims?" Of bystanders as the crash happened, even after some of us who have no formal economic qualifications but have experience of that in raising families, running a small business etc had told others that were going down the path of overstretch and speculation and that what they brought just may not increase so fast they were covered and make a killing.. Responsibility was evident across the board but too many thought they could get rich quick so greed over took responsibility and old fashioned common sense.. It will happen again as people exploit the flaws in the system.. | |||
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"You want to see the state of our old town Falkirk. Extortionate rates from the local council have driven most retailers away. The town looks horrible. As far as I was aware there was a local business man that proposed to buy all the retail space and allow for new business start ups and smaller indipedent retailers better rate incentives to locate in Falkirk. Again the idea was snubbed because the council would loose to much money going to a private holding company. ![]() Part of the problem is central government funding policy. Business rates are one of the few ways of raising funding, but councils have been squeezing too tightly... | |||
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"Of course banks are to blame! There was and is good reason why banks need to be heavily regulated. There is equally good reason that since the deregulation of the banks and financial industry that there has been a continual drip of financial scandals all of which have one thing in common. They involve fraudulent manipulation of funds and the theft of investors and depositors funds. Do borrowers have no responsibility for what they do? I think you know that I am confident that the pusher is equally culpable. " There is something in what you say but the public are very brainwashed by advertising in many cases,and they are to keen to borrow money it is a society problem | |||
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"fair comment. I will give you fraud. Whether the mortgages is fraud or stealing is debatable ... " To say I find your moral and ethical compass questionable is an understatement. Unfortunately I believe you probably represent the majority of society, not only in Britain but round the world. Theft is theft regardless of the method used to misappropriate property and misappropriation of property is stealing. "...and personal responsibility? The banks and politicians are guilty. What about the rest of us? Just victims?" Personal responsibility, really? That is straight out of the victim blaming handbook. Is the patient of a 'medical practitioner' to blame if they follow what they believe to be advice given in good faith that turns out to have been given in bad faith for profit and it damages the patient? Remember doctors prescribing unnecessary and on occasions harmful drugs because they were getting backhanders from the pharmaceutical industry a few years back? Or how about dentists doing unnecessary dental work in the 60's and 70's because they were paid by the filling and extraction. Where is the difference? If I go to my bank or insurance company for financial advice I should be able to trust that the bank will give me honest advice. Fact is I can't because the banks and insurance industry have become the dodgiest of second hand car dealers. | |||
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"fair comment. I will give you fraud. Whether the mortgages is fraud or stealing is debatable ... To say I find your moral and ethical compass questionable is an understatement. Unfortunately I believe you probably represent the majority of society, not only in Britain but round the world. Theft is theft regardless of the method used to misappropriate property and misappropriation of property is stealing. ...and personal responsibility? The banks and politicians are guilty. What about the rest of us? Just victims? Personal responsibility, really? That is straight out of the victim blaming handbook. Is the patient of a 'medical practitioner' to blame if they follow what they believe to be advice given in good faith that turns out to have been given in bad faith for profit and it damages the patient? Remember doctors prescribing unnecessary and on occasions harmful drugs because they were getting backhanders from the pharmaceutical industry a few years back? Or how about dentists doing unnecessary dental work in the 60's and 70's because they were paid by the filling and extraction. Where is the difference? If I go to my bank or insurance company for financial advice I should be able to trust that the bank will give me honest advice. Fact is I can't because the banks and insurance industry have become the dodgiest of second hand car dealers." I'm not talking about PPI misselling or businesses being asset stripped when they should have been offered an overdraft. Not the interest rate spikes like in the 80s. Self-certified mortgages that came with a nudge and a wink? Come on. Borrowing money to go on holiday or buy a top spec new car or wide screen TV? That's not victim shaming. That's greed. Both vendor and buyer complicit. People are certainly being offered credit inappropriately but these aren't complex financial products. It's unsecured loans for "stuff" that people do not need but want. | |||
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"It is many factors. High business rates Internet shopping High price of street parking in towns. Out of town shopping centres I do believe that business rates and the internet are the main reasons.The internet will destroy society as we know it but this is a different topic" In a nutshell ..... ![]() | |||
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"For the high street crisis. With local branches closing. There is less need to go into town. Interest rates and the lack of lending to small businesses. Do you know who your local bank manger is I dont and do you have a good relationship with them. Thoughts please x" Interestingly Metro Bank are just opening a branch in Bristol. They are the newest high street bank in years and they are deliberately opening branches, which seems against the flow of the move to mobile banking. But they seem to recognise the needs of the consumer. Most banks are only open 9-5. What use is that to most working people? Metro bank branches are open in the evenings too. -Matt | |||
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"Online transactions are the biggest killer of the town high street, lack of parking finishes it off. Internet prices are generally far lower for most items. If I'm after an item that doesn't need to be held / tried on before I buy then I'll probably whip out my phone and have it ordered in under a minute. Same for banking, everything's on direct debit / PayPal , Sage etc but if I have to take cash to pay in it does feel old fashioned & extremely time consuming lol" I just received a cheque for refund of my car insurance. It is still sat on my desk weeks later as the hassle of actually paying it in is almost more than it is worth. I’m pretty sure that is why they do It. On the other hand I sold the car with Webuyanycar and they asked me if I wanted to pay £40 to have payment paid by Faster Payments. Cheeky fuckers! -Matt | |||
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"Jeeez, £40 for a Bacs, there again I'm not surprised. " Yup. The underlying faster payments network charge 3 pence per transaction. WBAC even state that the slower payment is by ‘future dated faster payment’. Ie exactly the same thing as the faster one, just the hold on to your money for a few more days. I just wish they’d be more honest about it and say ‘if you let us hold on to your money for four days we’ll give you an extra £40’. -Matt | |||
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"It is many factors. High business rates Internet shopping High price of street parking in towns. Out of town shopping centres I do believe that business rates and the internet are the main reasons.The internet will destroy society as we know it but this is a different topic In a nutshell ..... ![]() Here is an example. My father in law who is very comfortable and living in an affluent area often goes into his local gentleman's shop for Church shoes or Barbour jacket get the sizes etc Then goes home and orders on line to save a few bob. He knows it's wrong and the shop are measuring him etc etc spending time with him to make sure he gets what's best for him. One day that shop will close thanks to people like him! | |||
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