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"As their best workers are considering leaving. I saw an interesting program about it, where a farmer put up an ad. 10 polish people applied and 0 brits, the brits was more intrested in playing playstation rather than helping their local farm, what will happen to the fields, will they be left to rot? Importing will be expensive." Polish people are not "helping their local farms" in Poland. They do it in order to get payed. Perhaps if farmer Barleymow paid a decent rate he might get more "help", from the "locals". Lack of a glut of unemployed people tends to push wages up. | |||
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"Look throughout history and Britain has always turned to foreign labour to do work that Britons thought was beneath them. Waves of migration by people to fill the menial roles. As that wave settles, their descendants born here grow up with higher expectations and no longer want to do the menial stuff. So a new wave of migration is needed and so on. Brexit really does fuck up that model. " That is the history of most countries. Do you think that Saudi's clean their own homes? That Israelis are the only ones who work in factories? That Americans pick the fruits of California? | |||
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"Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the majority of farmers vote for brexit.I can find zero fucks to give for farmers who voted for Brexit and now are complaining. They'll reap what they sow . Let them fold if they can't stay solvent." Actually to be fair to farmers the NFU did say that voting to remain would be better for their members, it’s the fishermen who wanted to leave.... | |||
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"As their best workers are considering leaving. I saw an interesting program about it, where a farmer put up an ad. 10 polish people applied and 0 brits, the brits was more intrested in playing playstation rather than helping their local farm, what will happen to the fields, will they be left to rot? Importing will be expensive. Polish people are not "helping their local farms" in Poland. They do it in order to get payed. Perhaps if farmer Barleymow paid a decent rate he might get more "help", from the "locals". Lack of a glut of unemployed people tends to push wages up. " Catch 22 - we want everything for nothing - ok as cheap as we can. Higher wages means higher prices! The supermarkets demand low prices so they can add their profit margin and sell to us cheaper food. A bit of cake and eat it. Farmers ain't making a massive profit. | |||
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"Other European countries not only pay higher wages than the UK but due to our warmer climate have a longer picking seasons Your shortage of Eastern European fruit pickers has nothing to do with Brexit - Brexit hasn't happened yet and the workers can still travel freely in your country Actually it has! The pound has fallen in value and therefore it's not as attractive to work here anymore. The perception of foreign workers - especially eastern Europeans is that they are not as welcome as they once we're - they're not wanted. Yes you are right they can still move freely at the moment - they just choose to move to other countries where they are valued! " | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops." Where do you think your strawberries come from in the winter Andy? | |||
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"Other European countries not only pay higher wages than the UK but due to our warmer climate have a longer picking seasons Your shortage of Eastern European fruit pickers has nothing to do with Brexit - Brexit hasn't happened yet and the workers can still travel freely in your country " We’ve hardly made it a welcoming environment have we though? Some might even say a ‘hostile environment’. -Matt | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. Where do you think your strawberries come from in the winter Andy?" In Summer, right now, they come from my garden, supplemented by British ones from the greengrocers. I don't buy the foreign ones in winter, because they taste inferior to British ones, and in particular my garden ones. The point is that someone is picking the British ones, cheaply, because they are no more expensive than previous years, and there are plenty of them. What happens in winter is irrelevant. They don't grow here in winter, so there is no requirement for any foreigners to come here and pick them. | |||
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"Other European countries not only pay higher wages than the UK but due to our warmer climate have a longer picking seasons Your shortage of Eastern European fruit pickers has nothing to do with Brexit - Brexit hasn't happened yet and the workers can still travel freely in your country We’ve hardly made it a welcoming environment have we though? Some might even say a ‘hostile environment’. -Matt" Maybe read the reports, not what idiots post on here. Most cannot even speak English, and don't know what is being said about them, and as is they care. They are only interested in the wages that they are paid. Many are simply staying at home, as Romania becomes more prosperous, as a result of all the money that the EU is pumping in there, that shortly, we won't have to pay for any longer, thank goodness. | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. " Tbf the wholesale price of strawberries is the same as last year. It may be there’s a larger harvest this year so the amount being picked is the same. Not my field (lol) | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. " That's a result of your exceptionally high temperatures this summer - Fruit ripens quicker and has a shorter lifespan on the vine - nothing to do with Brexit - but nice try | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. That's a result of your exceptionally high temperatures this summer - Fruit ripens quicker and has a shorter lifespan on the vine - nothing to do with Brexit - but nice try " Except the article was written in Feb 18 about 2017. Nothing to do with this summer - But nice try. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again " Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article." You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss " Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic." Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic." Thanks for the offer but I think I'll leave the shit arguments to you, as you already appear to have the monopoly | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! " It's still gone totally over his head. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head." Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side " Continue making shit arguments pumpkin. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side " "We’re going to win so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of winning" | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side "We’re going to win so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of winning"" He has the best arguments ever. They're the greatest. No one's ever had such incredible arguments | |||
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"i bet farmers are shit scared ...they might not be able to buy a new range rover every year ...poor farmers never met one ....plus no one said there would not be selective workers coming to uk ...its the shit hangers /scroungers we dont want" Why would the ' shit hangers / scroungers ' from the EU come to the UK when they can get better welfare and social payments and housing in their own countries than here? | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side " https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-LAST-YEAR-data-reveals I've capitalised the most important part of the URL that you seem to have missed. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-LAST-YEAR-data-reveals I've capitalised the most important part of the URL that you seem to have missed. " We discussed that one further up the page but I'll capitalise the key points as you seem to have missed them MIGRANTS - HIGHER WAGES - FRANCE/SPAIN/PORTUGAL - WARMER CLIMATE - LONGER PICKING SEASON - MORE FRUIT - CHEAPER ACCOM. BETTER LIFESTYLE - NICER FOOD - CHEAP WINE YOUR SHORTAGE OF MIGRANTS .. NOTHING TO DO WITH BREXIT - They just worked out they have better options elsewhere | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-LAST-YEAR-data-reveals I've capitalised the most important part of the URL that you seem to have missed. We discussed that one further up the page but I'll capitalise the key points as you seem to have missed them MIGRANTS - HIGHER WAGES - FRANCE/SPAIN/PORTUGAL - WARMER CLIMATE - LONGER PICKING SEASON - MORE FRUIT - CHEAPER ACCOM. BETTER LIFESTYLE - NICER FOOD - CHEAP WINE YOUR SHORTAGE OF MIGRANTS .. NOTHING TO DO WITH BREXIT - They just worked out they have better options elsewhere " Perhaps the drop in the value of the pound post referendum is having an effect? You know, the 14% drop since June 2016..... | |||
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"Perhaps the drop in the value of the pound post referendum is having an effect? You know, the 14% drop since June 2016....." No! Don't you remember the drop in the pound was good for the economy because people bought more of our stuff and the stock market went up... Anything else is project fear. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-LAST-YEAR-data-reveals I've capitalised the most important part of the URL that you seem to have missed. We discussed that one further up the page but I'll capitalise the key points as you seem to have missed them MIGRANTS - HIGHER WAGES - FRANCE/SPAIN/PORTUGAL - WARMER CLIMATE - LONGER PICKING SEASON - MORE FRUIT - CHEAPER ACCOM. BETTER LIFESTYLE - NICER FOOD - CHEAP WINE YOUR SHORTAGE OF MIGRANTS .. NOTHING TO DO WITH BREXIT - They just worked out they have better options elsewhere " im convinced, after all, he’s used caps lock. | |||
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"I didn't realise your fruit ripened in February Nice try - but failed miserably once again Read the post again. Or the URL. Or even the article. You mean the article from 6 months ago based on photos taken at some random time in the past - I think I will give that a miss Fair enough, make a shit argument instead, seems a good tactic. Haha, he's digging himself a hole so deep Elon Musk will tweet to offer him some help in a minute! It's still gone totally over his head. Nice attempt at humour boys! Can't be easy being permanently on the losing side https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-LAST-YEAR-data-reveals I've capitalised the most important part of the URL that you seem to have missed. We discussed that one further up the page but I'll capitalise the key points as you seem to have missed them MIGRANTS - HIGHER WAGES - FRANCE/SPAIN/PORTUGAL - WARMER CLIMATE - LONGER PICKING SEASON - MORE FRUIT - CHEAPER ACCOM. BETTER LIFESTYLE - NICER FOOD - CHEAP WINE YOUR SHORTAGE OF MIGRANTS .. NOTHING TO DO WITH BREXIT - They just worked out they have better options elsewhere im convinced, after all, he’s used caps lock. " A pure sign of winning! 99% of seasonal labour (picking) comes from the EU, 0.6% comes from UK, and 0.4% comes from the rest of the world. | |||
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"Look throughout history and Britain has always turned to foreign labour to do work that Britons thought was beneath them. Waves of migration by people to fill the menial roles. As that wave settles, their descendants born here grow up with higher expectations and no longer want to do the menial stuff. So a new wave of migration is needed and so on. Brexit really does fuck up that model. " That is right, they are good at doing that. | |||
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"Funny enough was listening to a thing last night where a farmer from Devon was explaining what the consequences of life after brexit would be to farmers.... I think the most scary thing is that the economist the brexiteer love to quote on everything, Patrick minford, said to a commons select committee “that like coal and steel production the farming community would become obsolete” I will find a link for it later but is an interesting listen......" Yes, it sounds interesting too. | |||
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"Funny enough was listening to a thing last night where a farmer from Devon was explaining what the consequences of life after brexit would be to farmers.... I think the most scary thing is that the economist the brexiteer love to quote on everything, Patrick minford, said to a commons select committee “that like coal and steel production the farming community would become obsolete” I will find a link for it later but is an interesting listen......Yes, it sounds interesting too." So no manufacturing, and now no agrifood either? Will it be more services then? So why are leaving one of the largest single markets for services and pinning our hopes on FTAs that don't include services? Seems like a shit idea to me! | |||
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"Funny enough was listening to a thing last night where a farmer from Devon was explaining what the consequences of life after brexit would be to farmers.... I think the most scary thing is that the economist the brexiteer love to quote on everything, Patrick minford, said to a commons select committee “that like coal and steel production the farming community would become obsolete” I will find a link for it later but is an interesting listen......Yes, it sounds interesting too. So no manufacturing, and now no agrifood either? Will it be more services then? So why are leaving one of the largest single markets for services and pinning our hopes on FTAs that don't include services? Seems like a shit idea to me! " Yes, it makes no sense leaving the single market, it was thatchers idea, which was good and now uks growth is at its lowest and it have dropped on europes leauge table. | |||
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"As their best workers are considering leaving. I saw an interesting program about it, where a farmer put up an ad. 10 polish people applied and 0 brits, the brits was more intrested in playing playstation rather than helping their local farm, what will happen to the fields, will they be left to rot? Importing will be expensive. Polish people are not "helping their local farms" in Poland. They do it in order to get payed. Perhaps if farmer Barleymow paid a decent rate he might get more "help", from the "locals". Lack of a glut of unemployed people tends to push wages up. Catch 22 - we want everything for nothing - ok as cheap as we can. Higher wages means higher prices! The supermarkets demand low prices so they can add their profit margin and sell to us cheaper food. A bit of cake and eat it. Farmers ain't making a massive profit. " No there not, I agree. Its the supermarkets making obscene profits. Just one of the "benefits" of being a huge buyer. Bit like you know who. | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. Where do you think your strawberries come from in the winter Andy?" I eat seasonally. Like decent chefs tell us too. Its better for the environment too. And strawberries bring me out in a rash. Evil fucking things. | |||
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"As their best workers are considering leaving. I saw an interesting program about it, where a farmer put up an ad. 10 polish people applied and 0 brits, the brits was more intrested in playing playstation rather than helping their local farm, what will happen to the fields, will they be left to rot? Importing will be expensive." Poles are good hard workers,sadly Brits are lazy and greedy,the youth of this country must get of there bums,they will have to next year a great Brexit benefit. It is because of lazy Brits the strawberries are going to waste in the fields and prices are going up.Very annoying as I love British strawberrys especially Scottish ones | |||
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"As their best workers are considering leaving. I saw an interesting program about it, where a farmer put up an ad. 10 polish people applied and 0 brits, the brits was more intrested in playing playstation rather than helping their local farm, what will happen to the fields, will they be left to rot? Importing will be expensive.Poles are good hard workers,sadly Brits are lazy and greedy,the youth of this country must get of there bums,they will have to next year a great Brexit benefit. It is because of lazy Brits the strawberries are going to waste in the fields and prices are going up.Very annoying as I love British strawberrys especially Scottish ones" So you're saying that the British attitude of the youth is the cause of immigration for strawberry picking? | |||
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"Funny enough was listening to a thing last night where a farmer from Devon was explaining what the consequences of life after brexit would be to farmers.... I think the most scary thing is that the economist the brexiteer love to quote on everything, Patrick minford, said to a commons select committee “that like coal and steel production the farming community would become obsolete” I will find a link for it later but is an interesting listen......Yes, it sounds interesting too. So no manufacturing, and now no agrifood either? Will it be more services then? So why are leaving one of the largest single markets for services and pinning our hopes on FTAs that don't include services? Seems like a shit idea to me! " FFS don't point out the bloody obvious, that's just scare mongering and project fear. Don't you know we're British for God's sake. As "Good chaps" we can bite the bullet AND keep a stiff upper lip, both at the same time; "don't you know". Now stop being such a rotter and spoiling everyone's fun, there's a good chap; hey! | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. " Bus convicts in to pick the food, problem solved. | |||
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"Bloody hell reading this reminds me of dads army ....were doomed doomed....i think not ...we will thrive away from the eu..others will follow soon after ...lets leave Germany to pay for the eu that remains ..they want control let them have it x" they dont like it up them | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. Bus convicts in to pick the food, problem solved. " I can see the tag line now "British Strawberries - Hand picked by paedophiles" It'll sure be a winner. | |||
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"More scaremongering from the left-wing remoaners. Funny how the supermarkets, shops and markets are all full of English strawberries, all being sold as cheaply as ever. How come there are not empty shelves or sky-high prices, if there is no one to do the picking, and thus a shortage. Maybe get out from your computer sometime, ignore the fake news and look in the shops. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/09/lack-of-migrant-workers-left-food-rotting-in-uk-fields-last-year-data-reveals Food is rotting in the fields. Bus convicts in to pick the food, problem solved. I can see the tag line now "British Strawberries - Hand picked by paedophiles" It'll sure be a winner. " depends on the religion I think. | |||
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