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"“The United States and the European Union have a $1 TRILLION bilateral trade relationship – the largest economic relationship in the world. We want to further strengthen this trade relationship to the benefit of all American and European citizens...” Where’s Centy? Is he ill or something? He hasn’t been on here yet crowing about what a fantastic man Mr Trump is yet? -Matt" He will be here soon to quote a report by an albanian economics student that says a Boots in Leeds is expecting to sell an extra 2 or 3 toothbrushes a year post Brexit. And call anyone who doubts him a “remoaner”, say something meaningless about “project fear”. Then leave again. | |||
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Trump: US and EU agree to work towards lower trade barriers
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. " 
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. " Where is this free trade deal? I can't see one. All I can see is some verbals from Donald Trump, that font of every truth, in the White House garden, saying the US and EU have agreed to work together to reduce trade barriers between the two blocs. A suggestion the EU may lower tariffs on soya beans and LPG. Nothing published. No agreements in writing. It seems to have taken the heat out of his trade war with the EU. That's it. | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. " Lol. Maybe. In about 7 years time Perhaps. Until Trump has a hissy fit, changes his mind next week and point blank denies he said any of it. I mean, why would you set up a trade deal with with an entity you just a week or two earlier called a massive threat? -Matt | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. " Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it? | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. " That's the same straw man you wheeled out last time. It's starting to look a bit tatty. | |||
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"Trump has just made fools of the government,he has proved in a few hours deals can be done. " What deal has Trump done in a few hours? All I can see is a press release, There is no deal. Just as there is no deal in North Korea. Just a press release. Just as there was no deal in Helsinki. Just a press release. | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it?" We haven’t had two years of BREXIT dummy, it hasn’t even started yet. The proof of the Pudding is in the eating, and we haven’t had a nibble yet! | |||
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"Trump has just made fools of the government,he has proved in a few hours deals can be done. I have allways said doing a deal can be simple,just use common sense and no political dogma. Trump could sort Brexit in a few weeks but he is not British,but Alan Sugar could do it,he did say this after the vote.if brexit is to be done properly get business men to do it and the politions to shut up and just approve what we do.He is right of course. Fuck the crap do it, that is the answer,talk tough with common sense and a deal can be done easy peasy in a month" in the furthest reaches of the most imaginative fantasist everything is possible, someone called god made the earth, all the plants, the millions of insects, all the animals and humans in what was it again.. many things can be done in a month but global trade deals, nope and brexit well double nope.. the only one flip flop trump has made a fool of is his foolish flip flopping self, remind us all again how his tariffs have affected the US farming industry.. oh yeah, he said he would win and is now spending billions in subsidies to prop up that particular industry.. he will flip flip on all the tough talking which is starting to affect potential republican voters just in time for the mid terms and he will claim a 'really, really big win'.. comedy gold from the multiple times bankrupt one.. | |||
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"Trump has just made fools of the government,he has proved in a few hours deals can be done. I have allways said doing a deal can be simple,just use common sense and no political dogma. Trump could sort Brexit in a few weeks but he is not British,but Alan Sugar could do it,he did say this after the vote.if brexit is to be done properly get business men to do it and the politions to shut up and just approve what we do.He is right of course. Fuck the crap do it, that is the answer,talk tough with common sense and a deal can be done easy peasy in a month" Awwww... bless you. You actually think Trump has done something. No, he has come out and announced something big to try and cover up the last big gaff he made. He's come out spouting nonsense about selling soy beans and LNG to the EU. The EU said it will buy LNG *in the future* once it has built the ports and infrastructure that doesn't yet exist. And the soy beans thing was to try and appease his soy bean farmers, that due to him waving his dick at the Chinese has resulted in 116 bankruptcy filings in the past quarter by farmers. There is already zero tariffs on EU importing soy beans from the US and we already import a load of them. But there is no way we would want even a tenth of the amount that China imported from them. But hey... I'm sure we could have a word with Weatherspoons and get them to come up with a nice cocktail that uses soy beans and British sparking wine. -Matt | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it? We haven’t had two years of BREXIT dummy, it hasn’t even started yet. The proof of the Pudding is in the eating, and we haven’t had a nibble yet!" Oh sorry, yeah, you are right after two years of navel gazing and in-fighting we haven't even worked out what we want. Yes the proof is in the pudding, and far from a nibble, we haven't even decided what pudding we actually want apart from "pudding means pudding", let alone looked at what the ingredients are, or how to make it, or even started to bake it. -Matt | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it? We haven’t had two years of BREXIT dummy, it hasn’t even started yet. The proof of the Pudding is in the eating, and we haven’t had a nibble yet! Oh sorry, yeah, you are right after two years of navel gazing and in-fighting we haven't even worked out what we want. Yes the proof is in the pudding, and far from a nibble, we haven't even decided what pudding we actually want apart from "pudding means pudding", let alone looked at what the ingredients are, or how to make it, or even started to bake it. -Matt" Yet still you insist we have got it all wrong, typical remoaner... | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it? We haven’t had two years of BREXIT dummy, it hasn’t even started yet. The proof of the Pudding is in the eating, and we haven’t had a nibble yet! Oh sorry, yeah, you are right after two years of navel gazing and in-fighting we haven't even worked out what we want. Yes the proof is in the pudding, and far from a nibble, we haven't even decided what pudding we actually want apart from "pudding means pudding", let alone looked at what the ingredients are, or how to make it, or even started to bake it. -Matt Yet still you insist we have got it all wrong, typical remoaner..." Well, you haven't got it right, have you? -Matt | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it? We haven’t had two years of BREXIT dummy, it hasn’t even started yet. The proof of the Pudding is in the eating, and we haven’t had a nibble yet! Oh sorry, yeah, you are right after two years of navel gazing and in-fighting we haven't even worked out what we want. Yes the proof is in the pudding, and far from a nibble, we haven't even decided what pudding we actually want apart from "pudding means pudding", let alone looked at what the ingredients are, or how to make it, or even started to bake it. -Matt Yet still you insist we have got it all wrong, typical remoaner... Well, you haven't got it right, have you? -Matt" Nothing has happened yet, the politicians could well fuck it up. But we have triggered a50 and we will leave. I just hope it is with no deal. | |||
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"Trump has just made fools of the government,he has proved in a few hours deals can be done. I have allways said doing a deal can be simple,just use common sense and no political dogma. Trump could sort Brexit in a few weeks but he is not British,but Alan Sugar could do it,he did say this after the vote.if brexit is to be done properly get business men to do it and the politions to shut up and just approve what we do.He is right of course. Fuck the crap do it, that is the answer,talk tough with common sense and a deal can be done easy peasy in a month" Sorry. Gibberish. Trump is absolutely not an example of someone with good sense. The point is that Trump has claimed that he has done a deal and has offered the EU, whom he was calling a foe the same "deal" that Leavers are counting on as a great prize. It's meaningless. The EU does not buy soybeans or gas. Individual states and countries do. Our biggest soybean supplier was Brazil who is now exporting to China. We were always going to shift supplier under those circumstances. Gas from the US? Why not, although they are no more a reliable ally now than Russia is. Business men do not want Brexit. The deal they would do would be one that looked like the EEA which a crappier version of what we have. They don't believe in jam tomorrow because it never comes. | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible. Its not a free trade deal on the mould of the EU, its a regular trade deal. Theres no removal of all tarrifs and barriers on services, theres no removal of all customs checks, tarrifs and barriers on goods. Its closer to the Canada deal than the EU. Once again Brexiters fail to understand even the most fundamental parts of whats actually happening. After over 2 years of Brexit they still dont get the basics. Amazing isnt it? We haven’t had two years of BREXIT dummy, it hasn’t even started yet. The proof of the Pudding is in the eating, and we haven’t had a nibble yet! Oh sorry, yeah, you are right after two years of navel gazing and in-fighting we haven't even worked out what we want. Yes the proof is in the pudding, and far from a nibble, we haven't even decided what pudding we actually want apart from "pudding means pudding", let alone looked at what the ingredients are, or how to make it, or even started to bake it. -Matt Yet still you insist we have got it all wrong, typical remoaner... Well, you haven't got it right, have you? -Matt Nothing has happened yet, the politicians could well fuck it up. But we have triggered a50 and we will leave. I just hope it is with no deal." Of course a no deal Brexit isnt going to be a clusterfuck at all.... | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible.
Pretty sure the ECJ won't be having oversight over American law courts either. "There will be an independent arbitrating body for resolving disputes which is what the ECJ does. It will cost a lot of money and we will have to abide buy its rulings. The difference is the ECJ is transparent. We know it's cost and what the judgements are. Arbitration is not under most trade deals. That would be a win then
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"Trump has just made fools of the government,he has proved in a few hours deals can be done. I have allways said doing a deal can be simple,just use common sense and no political dogma. Trump could sort Brexit in a few weeks but he is not British,but Alan Sugar could do it,he did say this after the vote.if brexit is to be done properly get business men to do it and the politions to shut up and just approve what we do.He is right of course. Fuck the crap do it, that is the answer,talk tough with common sense and a deal can be done easy peasy in a month Sorry. Gibberish. Trump is absolutely not an example of someone with good sense. The point is that Trump has claimed that he has done a deal and has offered the EU, whom he was calling a foe the same "deal" that Leavers are counting on as a great prize. It's meaningless. The EU does not buy soybeans or gas. Individual states and countries do. Our biggest soybean supplier was Brazil who is now exporting to China. We were always going to shift supplier under those circumstances. Gas from the US? Why not, although they are no more a reliable ally now than Russia is. Business men do not want Brexit. The deal they would do would be one that looked like the EEA which a crappier version of what we have. They don't believe in jam tomorrow because it never comes." Why isn't Trump an example of someone with good sense? He slapped tariffs on the EU because the trade with the USA was unfair to the USA. He came to Europe and told everyone how much he hated the EU, and what happened? D*unker went running to America to sort out a trade deal because Mrs Merkel told him to, because she knew how much the tariffs would hurt Germany. He went and an agreement in principle has been reached. Trump's plan worked. You're just too biased, and left-wing to see it. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. " Well, the EU has a 120 billion euro trade surplus with the USA at present, so they can afford to make some concessions. They levy a 10% import duty on US made cars. The USA only levies 2.5% on all those imported German cars. You can see why Mrs Merkel panicked, and sent D*unker over to sort a deal out. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. " What deal? | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? " The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. " No trade deal has been agreed to. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. " A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week." No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. " Who came running to the USA? D*unker. Did Trump do running to him? No! There is a 120 billion surplus in the EU's favour. You think Trump and US business think that's a good thing. Trump slapped on the tariffs to bring D*unker to heel and it worked, because Merkel told him to get to Pennsylvania Avenue to sort it out, because the EU slaps 10% on American cars, and America only slaps 2.5% on all those German cars, and you think she was going to allow that to happen? You need to read some newspapers instead of just being blinkered and rabidly pro-EU. Maybe read some of the world's financial ones, and see what the world's economic analysts are saying. They are saying - Trump is right, and they are saying that because of the 120 billion euro EU protection racket. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. Who came running to the USA? D*unker. Did Trump do running to him? No! There is a 120 billion surplus in the EU's favour. You think Trump and US business think that's a good thing. Trump slapped on the tariffs to bring D*unker to heel and it worked, because Merkel told him to get to Pennsylvania Avenue to sort it out, because the EU slaps 10% on American cars, and America only slaps 2.5% on all those German cars, and you think she was going to allow that to happen? You need to read some newspapers instead of just being blinkered and rabidly pro-EU. Maybe read some of the world's financial ones, and see what the world's economic analysts are saying. They are saying - Trump is right, and they are saying that because of the 120 billion euro EU protection racket. " Let's just take cars then, what were EU tariffs at the start of the year, and what are they today, supposedly after this trade deal? | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. Who came running to the USA? D*unker. Did Trump do running to him? No! There is a 120 billion surplus in the EU's favour. You think Trump and US business think that's a good thing. Trump slapped on the tariffs to bring D*unker to heel and it worked, because Merkel told him to get to Pennsylvania Avenue to sort it out, because the EU slaps 10% on American cars, and America only slaps 2.5% on all those German cars, and you think she was going to allow that to happen? You need to read some newspapers instead of just being blinkered and rabidly pro-EU. Maybe read some of the world's financial ones, and see what the world's economic analysts are saying. They are saying - Trump is right, and they are saying that because of the 120 billion euro EU protection racket. Let's just take cars then, what were EU tariffs at the start of the year, and what are they today, supposedly after this trade deal? " I told you. And Trump would have matched the EU rate on imported German cars, but for D*unker not being sent over by Merkel. In the new trade agreement, the grossly unequal tariff in the EU's favour will disappear. | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. Who came running to the USA? D*unker. Did Trump do running to him? No! There is a 120 billion surplus in the EU's favour. You think Trump and US business think that's a good thing. Trump slapped on the tariffs to bring D*unker to heel and it worked, because Merkel told him to get to Pennsylvania Avenue to sort it out, because the EU slaps 10% on American cars, and America only slaps 2.5% on all those German cars, and you think she was going to allow that to happen? You need to read some newspapers instead of just being blinkered and rabidly pro-EU. Maybe read some of the world's financial ones, and see what the world's economic analysts are saying. They are saying - Trump is right, and they are saying that because of the 120 billion euro EU protection racket. Let's just take cars then, what were EU tariffs at the start of the year, and what are they today, supposedly after this trade deal? I told you. And Trump would have matched the EU rate on imported German cars, but for D*unker not being sent over by Merkel. In the new trade agreement, the grossly unequal tariff in the EU's favour will disappear." So you should be able to tell me the rates at the start of the year, and what they are now.  | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. " There is no deal agreed. Are you genuinely unable to get that? There is no negotiation starting. Its a quote to save face and claim a "win". The EU does not buy anything. Individual countries and companies do if they want to. The EU can raise any limits if there are any (which there are not on gas and soybeans). | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. Who came running to the USA? D*unker. Did Trump do running to him? No! There is a 120 billion surplus in the EU's favour. You think Trump and US business think that's a good thing. Trump slapped on the tariffs to bring D*unker to heel and it worked, because Merkel told him to get to Pennsylvania Avenue to sort it out, because the EU slaps 10% on American cars, and America only slaps 2.5% on all those German cars, and you think she was going to allow that to happen? You need to read some newspapers instead of just being blinkered and rabidly pro-EU. Maybe read some of the world's financial ones, and see what the world's economic analysts are saying. They are saying - Trump is right, and they are saying that because of the 120 billion euro EU protection racket. Let's just take cars then, what were EU tariffs at the start of the year, and what are they today, supposedly after this trade deal? I told you. And Trump would have matched the EU rate on imported German cars, but for D*unker not being sent over by Merkel. In the new trade agreement, the grossly unequal tariff in the EU's favour will disappear." Cars are not the biggest part of the US market. Pick-ups are. We do not tax pick-ups at 10% and they do not tax at that rate. US built cars are also completely inappropriate for European roads which is why they have always had European subsidiaries for this market so the tariff was of no interest. This is also what European car companies do with factories in the US. Trump is wrong. He's a shouty putz. Reading a newspaper is not research. | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible.
Pretty sure the ECJ won't be having oversight over American law courts either. "Exactly, Trump will do any deal that he believes is best for the US. That doesn’t mean he won’t deal with us directly, but we will have to be able to be able to do such a deal. Any weak deal with the EU will see us having to do all our business with the same restrictions we had before BREXIT. Trump is waiting, and he will is ready to do business with a free and independent Great Britain, | |||
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"Amazing isn't it? The miracle of doing the impossible. A free trade deal No freedom of movement No membership of the customs union No membership fee Something Barnier and Juncker insist is impossible.
Pretty sure the ECJ won't be having oversight over American law courts either.
Exactly, Trump will do any deal that he believes is best for the US. That doesn’t mean he won’t deal with us directly, but we will have to be able to be able to do such a deal. Any weak deal with the EU will see us having to do all our business with the same restrictions we had before BREXIT.
Trump is waiting, and he will is ready to do business with a free and independent Great Britain,"There will be a dispute resolution process. It will be in secret. Of we introduce a law that costs US companies money we will pay them compensation, even on medical grounds. In secret. The ECJ does the same job in public. Which option do you prefer? Trump will do any deal where he is in a position of power and can name his terms. That's why he's trying to divide Europe. Do we want a trade deal with the USA more than with Mauritania? Will we offer the USA better terms? If yes then why will we have a better bargaining position than the EU? | |||
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"I'm a bit concerned as to what concessions the EU may have made to get a deal. What deal? The trade deal that has been agreed to be negotiated to end the recently introduced tariffs on both sides. No trade deal has been agreed to. A trade deal has been agreed to be negotiated. That was the point of the joint announcement between Trump and D*unker this week. No, it hasn't. Trump said "I'm gonna whack a load of tariffs on a load of countries" Businesses, economists and politicians around the US said "please don't do that, it's a terrible idea". Trump said "I'm gonna do it anyway" The EU said "if you put tariffs on us, we'll put tariffs on you. How about we just keep things as we are instead?" Trump said "screw that, I'm putting tariffs up" US business said "these tariffs are really fucking hurting us" Trump then met with the EU and announced "I'm getting rid of the extra tariffs, I'm the greatest, I'm the most amazing negotiator ever, look how quickly I got rid of these tariffs" And people like you have somehow come to believe that a trade deal has been done. " It's fucking unbelievable isn't it 
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