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"Can we have a link please OP? " will do later when I find it again. Think it May have been the Guardian or FT. | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? " Was said during a TV interview when JRM was pressed on what he would consider to be a brexit success or failure. Reading between the lines he effectively said that regardless of how damaging brexit is to the UK economy and the population of the UK, brexit is a total success because it passes power to Tories. | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? " it was said in an interview to channel 4 news.... Rees-Mogg: “We will know at some point, of course we will. But it’s a question of timescale.” Guru-Murthy: “So how long have you got?” Rees-Mogg: “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” Guru-Murthy: “Of course not, but I mean we’ll have an indication. We’ll know if there’s been chaos, we’ll know if there have been job losses.” Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” | |||
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"Thought Reece mogg had intelligence. It will not affect him he will be dead and buried. " it won't affect him at all... the hedge fund company he set up and still owns are setting up a 2nd subsiduary with a base in dublin, you know... so they can move the money to for all those clients who are worried about brexit.... | |||
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"Thought Reece mogg had intelligence. It will not affect him he will be dead and buried. it won't affect him at all... the hedge fund company he set up and still owns are setting up a 2nd subsiduary with a base in dublin, you know... so they can move the money to for all those clients who are worried about brexit...." But they are still registered in the UK right? And pay UK taxes, right? | |||
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"EU is not working and going to cost more and more so best out and maybe the EU will get there act together " 4 members of the G7 are in the EU. I would say that proves it's working pretty well. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x" Based on what? Have any other countries even decided to have a referendum on EU membership, let alone voted to leave? | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x" Did you not do that 2 year's ago? 
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Based on what? Have any other countries even decided to have a referendum on EU membership, let alone voted to leave? " Nope.. ?? But we have not won euro vision so that's a fop to the isolationists.. Maybe..  | |||
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"Thought Reece mogg had intelligence. It will not affect him he will be dead and buried. " It will absolutely effect him. He stands to become more rich. There is a wealth of information about how he personally stands to make a lot of money. | |||
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"Thought Reece mogg had intelligence. It will not affect him he will be dead and buried. it won't affect him at all... the hedge fund company he set up and still owns are setting up a 2nd subsiduary with a base in dublin, you know... so they can move the money to for all those clients who are worried about brexit...." For the record he doesn't own Somerset Capital Management. He is a shareholder and also a partner. And it is not a second subsidiary, it is a second investment fund. | |||
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"Thought Reece mogg had intelligence. It will not affect him he will be dead and buried. it won't affect him at all... the hedge fund company he set up and still owns are setting up a 2nd subsiduary with a base in dublin, you know... so they can move the money to for all those clients who are worried about brexit.... For the record he doesn't own Somerset Capital Management. He is a shareholder and also a partner. And it is not a second subsidiary, it is a second investment fund." As a partner in a partnership he is in effect a part owner. The investment fund has been registered in the Rep of Ireland so that it falls under EU rules and is able to trade after brexit. So old Jacob is "hedging his bets" - or having a bit of cake in both area's? | |||
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"Let's wait and see who among the Leave cohort becomes a Remainer. By Remainer, I mean remaining on these islands while their cheerleaders exit Britain with their dual nationality and 2nd homes in France and the US, all paid for by their nest eggs in offshore tax havens. Who will the stay-at-homes blame then?" They won't be coming to the EU as they are clamping down on tax havens. | |||
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"So having checked the average life span in the UK is 81.6 - so anybody over 32 is going to be dead! Who is still going to be alive???? " JRM will be 99! | |||
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"So having checked the average life span in the UK is 81.6 - so anybody over 32 is going to be dead! Who is still going to be alive???? JRM will be 99!" Finally, his physical age and his mental age will match. | |||
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" Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”" That doesn’t mean what the op is eluding to. Over the next 50 years is not the same as for 50 years. I’m not talking semantics here. RM’s words are being twisted by remoaners. There are are so many variables, that some will present themselves earlier, or indeed later than others. The real differences will present themselves within the first 5 years imo.. | |||
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" Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” That doesn’t mean what the op is eluding to. Over the next 50 years is not the same as for 50 years. I’m not talking semantics here. RM’s words are being twisted by remoaners. There are are so many variables, that some will present themselves earlier, or indeed later than others. The real differences will present themselves within the first 5 years imo.." I am inclined to agree with the semantics here. | |||
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" Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” That doesn’t mean what the op is eluding to. Over the next 50 years is not the same as for 50 years. I’m not talking semantics here. RM’s words are being twisted by remoaners. There are are so many variables, that some will present themselves earlier, or indeed later than others. The real differences will present themselves within the first 5 years imo.." Agreed it’s been misrepresented. It wasn’t 50 years until we make a profit. It was 50 years until we know if it was a good idea !! (Or at least how good or bad an idea it is). He didn’t seem to be meant to say when we will have an inkling. | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one " Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. | |||
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"A tad unnecessary. JRMs words were misrepresented IMO. And he was correct is pointing this out. The learning is you can’t judge a sound bite in isolation. The words were positive. The context was political sidestepping. " No, but what we can do is read an exchange and then accurately gauge what it means. The idea that they were positive is only superficially true. | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them." That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate." Shame you failed to provide the context earlier in the thread. Instead you made a strange comment about JRM having a mental age of 99... I can’t work out what this even means !! | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate. Shame you failed to provide the context earlier in the thread. Instead you made a strange comment about JRM having a mental age of 99... I can’t work out what this even means !!" Keep at it, it'll come to you. | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate." Oh brother | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate." Ah! Yet more anger and bad language! To use some of JRM's words ..... By taking lessons, you have an "overwhelming opportunity" to improve your understanding of English and to control your anger How positive does that sound? | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate. Shame you failed to provide the context earlier in the thread. Instead you made a strange comment about JRM having a mental age of 99... I can’t work out what this even means !! Keep at it, it'll come to you." It’s alright. You’re obviously waaaay smarter than me. I will let someone else fill in the gaps. | |||
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" Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” That doesn’t mean what the op is eluding to. Over the next 50 years is not the same as for 50 years. I’m not talking semantics here. RM’s words are being twisted by remoaners. " No they are not! I listened watched the interview and the slimy tory shyster refused to answer time and time again in the end being backed into a corner where he had to give a timescale and he came up with 50 years! That you would defend him shows that not only are you licking his arse you have your head fully inserted the brexit shitter. It is because of people like you that I eventually came to the conclusion that we needed to leave the EU. | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate. Ah! Yet more anger and bad language! To use some of JRM's words ..... By taking lessons, you have an "overwhelming opportunity" to improve your understanding of English and to control your anger How positive does that sound? " Not in the slightest, really. But it does sound like a something you might mistake as positive, if you're suitably predisposed to taking any old bullshit as gospel. | |||
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"JRM said - “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” English is my 3rd language but I recognise that as a positive statement Try reading JRM's statement a few times and see if it actually says - you will recieve no benefits FOR 50 years, as the OP has suggested Or if it says - you have an overwhelming opportunity OVER the next 50 years Sorry to give you an English lesson chaps but some of you obviously need one Hardly. The question put to this brexitering halfwit was what timescale would be needed to see the impact of Brexit. He then waffled - “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.” And when further pressed have the answer you're claiming is a positive. And you're wrong, because as it relates to the actual question, half a century is the time it will take for the impact of brexit to take shape and brexit is, in the mind of people like that, a good thing. Unambiguously, the payoff for brexit is fifty years in the future. And that's assuming it's an actual payoff. Of course, you fell for the weasel wording of his answer, hook, line, and sinker. Of course the opportunities for brexit lie in the future, they can hardly lie in the fucking past, now can they? But the more astute reader will note he made no mention of the kinds of opportunities, the volume, how many people will be actually able to avail of the opportunities, are these opportunities greater than the ones that continued EU membership would have offered, and so on. Simply that opportunities will happen in the future. For his next trick, in assume he'll blow our minds and tell us water is wet. Absolutely nothing about this is a positive, unless you're stupid enough to think Brexit is a good idea. So, about those English lessons you were so fucking certain everyone else needed? I'd say keep them. That was a slight over reaction! - perhaps after your much needed English lessons (and you really do need them) you could take a few anger management lessons on your way home? Fuck your tone policing bullshit. If you don't like having your mistakes pointed out to you, feel free not to participate. Ah! Yet more anger and bad language! To use some of JRM's words ..... By taking lessons, you have an "overwhelming opportunity" to improve your understanding of English and to control your anger How positive does that sound? Not in the slightest, really. But it does sound like a something you might mistake as positive, if you're suitably predisposed to taking any old bullshit as gospel." Unfortunately you lost the argument some time ago but just think yourself lucky - I only get to make you look stupid in English and not my first two languages Now that's a positive for you | |||
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"EU is not working and going to cost more and more so best out and maybe the EU will get there act together 4 members of the G7 are in the EU. I would say that proves it's working pretty well." 3 members of the G7 are in the EU, one of the 4 you quoted is in the process of leaving, and I would say that represents a failure by the EU. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it.. "Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
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Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent. "And How many had manifesto commitments to hold a referendum on leaving the EU? | |||
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"EU is not working and going to cost more and more so best out and maybe the EU will get there act together 4 members of the G7 are in the EU. I would say that proves it's working pretty well. 3 members of the G7 are in the EU, one of the 4 you quoted is in the process of leaving, and I would say that represents a failure by the EU. " 4 out of 7 are currently in the EU. That proved the block isn't failing. | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? " Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think? | |||
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" Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.” That doesn’t mean what the op is eluding to. Over the next 50 years is not the same as for 50 years. I’m not talking semantics here. RM’s words are being twisted by remoaners. No they are not! I listened watched the interview and the slimy tory shyster refused to answer time and time again in the end being backed into a corner where he had to give a timescale and he came up with 50 years! That you would defend him shows that not only are you licking his arse you have your head fully inserted the brexit shitter. It is because of people like you that I eventually came to the conclusion that we needed to leave the EU." I’m not even a Tory you pillock, I’m just anti EU, and of course I’m right. But the affects of BREXIT won’t all happen at once, and I’m sure that is what JRM actually meant. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent. "no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself.. any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..? | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..? "You're right. The Brexit brigade have been telling us that the EU will fall apart ever since the referendum. They told us le Pen would win in France and the right would win in the Netherlands; it was rubbish then and it's still rubbish now. Wishful thinking. The EU wont collapse any time soon however much the brexiteers say so | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
You're right. The Brexit brigade have been telling us that the EU will fall apart ever since the referendum. They told us le Pen would win in France and the right would win in the Netherlands; it was rubbish then and it's still rubbish now. Wishful thinking. The EU wont collapse any time soon however much the brexiteers say so"We also said 5 Star and the League would win in Italy.....which they did. We also said Victor Orban would win in Hungary.....which he did. You're in denial fella, the EU is crumbling. Of course it won't happen overnight it's a slow process, and the EU is dying a slow painful death. One thing that will quicken the EU's demise though is when the Euro goes down the tubes, and when you look at the debt problems and other fiscal difficulties surrounding the Euro, you'll realise it's doomed to failure, which former governor of the Bank of England Mervyn King warned about during the referendum campaign in 2016. | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think?" I wanted to know exactly what was said. So that I could come to my own conclusion, there was nothing sarcastic about it. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
You're right. The Brexit brigade have been telling us that the EU will fall apart ever since the referendum. They told us le Pen would win in France and the right would win in the Netherlands; it was rubbish then and it's still rubbish now. Wishful thinking. The EU wont collapse any time soon however much the brexiteers say so
We also said 5 Star and the League would win in Italy.....which they did. We also said Victor Orban would win in Hungary.....which he did. You're in denial fella, the EU is crumbling. Of course it won't happen overnight it's a slow process, and the EU is dying a slow painful death. One thing that will quicken the EU's demise though is when the Euro goes down the tubes, and when you look at the debt problems and other fiscal difficulties surrounding the Euro, you'll realise it's doomed to failure, which former governor of the Bank of England Mervyn King warned about during the referendum campaign in 2016. "And How many had manifesto commitments to hold a referendum on leaving the EU? ZERO. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..? ""Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check! If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe! The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept We all know which direction Sweden is heading I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline? | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think? I wanted to know exactly what was said. So that I could come to my own conclusion, there was nothing sarcastic about it." Try using Google | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think? I wanted to know exactly what was said. So that I could come to my own conclusion, there was nothing sarcastic about it. Try using Google "Why don't you try answering some questions? Like, "How many had manifesto commitments to hold a referendum on leaving the EU?" | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think? I wanted to know exactly what was said. So that I could come to my own conclusion, there was nothing sarcastic about it. Try using Google "If you scroll up 13 posts you will see the link. | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think? I wanted to know exactly what was said. So that I could come to my own conclusion, there was nothing sarcastic about it. Try using Google
If you scroll up 13 posts you will see the link. "if they look 6 posts into this thread... they will see i put an actual transcript of what was said....  | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
"A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain. | |||
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"Can we have a link please OP? Why hve you not got a brain,speak your own mind and not just sarcastic comments please,why do you need a link?Why not think? I wanted to know exactly what was said. So that I could come to my own conclusion, there was nothing sarcastic about it. Try using Google
Why don't you try answering some questions? Like, "How many had manifesto commitments to hold a referendum on leaving the EU?""I see this question is too tough for fragile egos to answer. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain."What evidence do you have for those two statements? | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements? "You can find it on the European Parliament website entitled "Eurobarometer survey shows highest support for the EU in 35 years" | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements?
You can find it on the European Parliament website entitled "Eurobarometer survey shows highest support for the EU in 35 years""They surveyed 27,601 people out of a total population of 512.6 million! | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements?
You can find it on the European Parliament website entitled "Eurobarometer survey shows highest support for the EU in 35 years"
They surveyed 27,601 people out of a total population of 512.6 million! "Polls take a random selection in the UK they are usually between 1,000 -2,000 out of a population of 65,000,000 - and your point is? | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements?
You can find it on the European Parliament website entitled "Eurobarometer survey shows highest support for the EU in 35 years"
They surveyed 27,601 people out of a total population of 512.6 million!
Polls take a random selection in the UK they are usually between 1,000 -2,000 out of a population of 65,000,000 - and your point is?"I think his point is that actual real elections in Europe in recent months are showing a different story, with Anti EU, Euroscrptic governments being elected or making big gains. | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements?
You can find it on the European Parliament website entitled "Eurobarometer survey shows highest support for the EU in 35 years"
They surveyed 27,601 people out of a total population of 512.6 million!
Polls take a random selection in the UK they are usually between 1,000 -2,000 out of a population of 65,000,000 - and your point is?
I think his point is that actual real elections in Europe in recent months are showing a different story, with Anti EU, Euroscrptic governments being elected or making big gains. "How many are planning on holding referendums about leaving the EU? Come on Centaur, it's an easy question | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements? "This survey which has been done annually for decades https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-election-poll/poll-shows-support-for-eu-at-35-year-high-across-bloc-idUSKCN1IO2SP As for my second point, that is my experience of the views of my friends and neighbours here in Spain. You may not agree, but that's tough | |||
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"More crap forecasts then ....i forecast another 2 major countries in the eu leave in next 5 years if not more ...x Did you not do that 2 year's ago?
All those countries who on the back of the vote who were about to elect far right parties into power..
Not happened has it..
Do you keep up on current events? I seem to recall a right wing Eurosceptic government being elected in Italy this year. Also a Eurosceptic government being elected in Hungary. The government in Poland now seems to be more Eurosceptic than Europhile. Also within the last few months a right wing anti immigration government being elected in Slovenia. Marine Le Pen came 2nd in France which was new ground for her. Angela Merkel got a bloody nose in Germany with the right wing Eurosceptic AFD making big gains. The tide is turning against the EU all over the European continent.
no it isn't turning, short term gains which will be reversed as the centre ground reasserts itself..
any sign of any votes for leaving the EU in those countries..?
"Short term gains which will be reversed" ........How about a reality check!
If you want signs there are plenty of signs down here in Southern Europe .. Spain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, also add most of Eastern Europe!
The UK is leaving soon, in addition there are deep concerns in France and Germany, and a right wing switch in Austria, Slovenia and Italy and we have elections in Sweden 9th Sept
We all know which direction Sweden is heading
I've deliberately left a few countries out, so I don't overload the debate - But out of interest - can anyone name a single country where support for the EU is growing and not in decline?
A recent poll shows support for the EU is at its highest level for 35 years.....just saying. I split my time between Spain and the UK and see no sign of euroscepticism gaining a foothold in this part of Spain.
What evidence do you have for those two statements?
You can find it on the European Parliament website entitled "Eurobarometer survey shows highest support for the EU in 35 years"
They surveyed 27,601 people out of a total population of 512.6 million! "Oddly, that's how all surveys work.....the word you're looking for is sampling | |||
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