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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() What part of "they are no longer British citizens" don't you understand? And if you want to campaign for and on behalf of ISIS then good luck with that. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() It is true though. UK has said it will revoke British citizenship of anyone who goes abroad to fight for ISIS. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() And have they, because they can't revoke the citizenship of anyone who isn't a dual citizen. The real world - more complicated than you'd think. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() Can't make people stateless. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() Yuuuuup! Kinda ruins the whole "UK has said it will revoke British citizenship of anyone who goes abroad to fight for ISIS" thing.. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() They belong to the so called Islamic State, the clue is in the name = ISIS ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() The UK, and the rest of the international community do not recognise it as a state. I doesn't meet the internationally established criteria for statehood, the Montevideo Convention. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah, almost forgot, you already do campaign for and on behalf of them in a roundabout way seeing as you support Jeremy Corbyn's Momentum terrorist loving Labour party. Filled with IRA terrorist loving sympathisers like John McDonnell and Diane Abbott. And lets not forget what Jeremy Corbyn himself said about ISIS Mk 1 which went by the name of Al-Quida, when he called the death of its leader Osama Bin Laden "a tragedy". He also calls the Islamic terror groups Hamas and Hezbollah his "friends". So yes, i think its crystal clear to everyone who you support OP. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() Has it been formally recognised as an actual state then? Just because they call it that doesn't make it so, you know as in officially a state with a capital etc.. Keep up | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() Oh, so we should recognise things by international definition when it suits? Apart from the international definition of anti semitism, which Jeremy Corbyn can't accept, so has to make his own up instead. Sounds about right. ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() Get back here with those goalposts! | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() What does that have to do with ISIS? As per usual, as soon as you realise you are losing your argument, you try to deflect attention away to something unrelated. | |||
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"These people are abhorrent, and have done the worst things one human being can do to another. They still shouldn't be executed though. " Maybe it is better if the USA says they will not face the death penalty so then they can spend the rest of thier lives in solitary with a cop each alone with no possibility of perol ever! ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() Sounds like you acknowledge the cowardly scum called isis, most decent people people scorn their so called state.. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() Unfortunately that only applies to people with duel nationalities. I totally agree with your views Centaur but unfortunately the UK government can't do anything about citizenship if they don't have duel nationalities | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() To me it’s a bit of a cop out, (excuse pun). Our abolition of the death sentence for the most serious of crimes was a mistake. These evil bastards that go and join Isis should be returning to the UK to face the death sentence here. | |||
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" To me it’s a bit of a cop out, (excuse pun). Our abolition of the death sentence for the most serious of crimes was a mistake. " Nope. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() What about the brits who join the peshmerga and fight for Kurdistan another unrecognised state.? Who I have to admit I'm a big fan of . ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() Ridiculous rant of the month. ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He took a trump pill. A bit off topic. | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It's like a "Sun" headline collage... ![]() | |||
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"If it was more important to secure a conviction against conservative politicians in a country overseas, with a death penalty, than it was to ensure that the other country was campaigned not to apply the death sentence, is it reasonable if you have always pressured countries against it? The UK government published its continuation of support against death penalties last week. Today is a different week and the Dianne Abbott is arguing that it's immoral to be not 100% against it. " Diane Abbot is a stupid bitch to be polite,if she says it then it must be wrong ![]() | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() I'm sure there are other UK citizens on death row around the world. I read somewhere about a British grandmother on death row for drug smuggling and a few in the states so I think if you commit a crime abroad where you know the death penalty is practised then tough shit you should have stayed at home | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() You tried to change the subject... but you cannot make a person stateless under a little thing you may of heard of called the Geneva convention So the other person is right that unless this person has duel citizenship... ( and since no one recognises isis as a country) you can’t strip a person of citizenship if it leaves them stateless So yep... letting them rot in Guantanamo is fine, killing them is not! Also the other interesting thing in this case is that the families of those these people murdered are actually also against them being given the death penalty as they believe they would be looked at as martyrs | |||
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"Many would state that it's not who you campaign for, but what you campaign for. The UK has discussed the death penalty with a country that they may be tried in but has explicitly emphasized that the death penalty will not be something that they will pressure against. Last week they were 100% against it - this week it's 0% against it, if they can have people trialed abroad and probably killed. Will the UK become a more dangerous place if it encourages death sentences against Muslims? ![]() ![]() ![]() Dual citizenship is ok but if both countries strip citizenship at the same time, then you do create a stateless person. The stateless "terrorist" could challenge through the courts but it could and would take years. | |||
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"Has Ms Begum won her appeal yet?" Nope | |||
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"Diane Abbot is a stupid bitch to be polite,if she says it then it must be wrong ![]() O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism." He has never fooled me . I know all there is to know about Corbyn active support for terrorist causes worldwide. Thornberry takes legal action when someone says she said the stupid word. The PM on live national TV alleges Corbyn is a supporter of terrorist causes including the IRA. Yet not a peep from Corbyn. He knows what he has said and what he has done and knows it can all be proven in court. Same for abbot and McDonnell . If any other MP was accused of being a terrorist supporter, lawyers would be engaged IMMEDIATELY. But not Corbyn. Says it all really | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism." Is he planning to set fire to the Houses of Parliament? ![]() | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Is he planning to set fire to the Houses of Parliament? ![]() He does not have the guts would love someone to do it and he would not condemn for sure | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism." Oh seriously, you do make me laugh sometimes - Corbyn truly evil - PMSFL. Corbny, as was been proved on 12 December, is too ineffectual to be evil. He's nothing but a self delusional fool. Now John McDonald - he's no fool and could well of been dangerous - still not sure I'd say evil though. | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. He has never fooled me . I know all there is to know about Corbyn active support for terrorist causes worldwide. Thornberry takes legal action when someone says she said the stupid word. The PM on live national TV alleges Corbyn is a supporter of terrorist causes including the IRA. Yet not a peep from Corbyn. He knows what he has said and what he has done and knows it can all be proven in court. Same for abbot and McDonnell . If any other MP was accused of being a terrorist supporter, lawyers would be engaged IMMEDIATELY. But not Corbyn. Says it all really" Genuinely, you come across as completely delusional. The thought that someone who has access to all this privileged information would be posting it on a swingers site is quite ridiculous. If you had any real security clearance you would have been flagged up a long time ago for participating in this forum. Get back to your jack ryan books and give up on your delusions of grandeur because nobody really cares what you think ![]() | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism." Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. He has never fooled me . I know all there is to know about Corbyn active support for terrorist causes worldwide. Thornberry takes legal action when someone says she said the stupid word. The PM on live national TV alleges Corbyn is a supporter of terrorist causes including the IRA. Yet not a peep from Corbyn. He knows what he has said and what he has done and knows it can all be proven in court. Same for abbot and McDonnell . If any other MP was accused of being a terrorist supporter, lawyers would be engaged IMMEDIATELY. But not Corbyn. Says it all really Genuinely, you come across as completely delusional. The thought that someone who has access to all this privileged information would be posting it on a swingers site is quite ridiculous. If you had any real security clearance you would have been flagged up a long time ago for participating in this forum. Get back to your jack ryan books and give up on your delusions of grandeur because nobody really cares what you think ![]() Ha ha ha .... you’re so funny | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() I do not but love winding people up.But I do fear the left very much have done since my early teens,even more so now I am older. I am a socialist but there is a very very big difference between the two | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() So what was Corbyn? If you say a Marxist, i'll blow that theory out of the window. | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() The dogs in the street know what Corbyn is | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() . He's a trot dinosaur from the 70s, everybody who knows anything about UK politics knows his ilk quite well. ![]() | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() Do the cats know Boris..?? | |||
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"Corbyn today says that he is the resistance against the tory government,he did not say opposition this enforces his belief in violence and terrorism. I hope that you fools that where taken in will begin to see the true evil of Corbynism. Oh dear Emma, I think your time would be better spent on redecorating your home than blaming the evil empire of the Labour party and Corbyn for all the wrongs in the world ![]() Of course they do. But the country they decided on a lying buffoon for a leader rather than a non- leader | |||
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