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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? " same thing could be said of elpicke resigning as conservative mp and standing as an independent mp for dover a few week ago centy....... but you seemed to skip that one.....  | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader." That's the bit i like, yes. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? " So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? | |||
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"Lets face it politics is changing,they are all becoming virtual independants in both parties. Result of weak leaders, poor policies,the country will end up in anarchy a bit like Italy. This is partly due to brexit but also a sign of the times we live in." It maybe better for the country if the 2 main parties split along Brexit lines. One pro EU remain party and one pro Brexit leave party. Seeing as most constituencies voted Leave in the referendum and around 85% of the public voted for Brexit manifestos in the general election it's pretty clear which party would win. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart?" I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons.  | |||
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"Lets face it politics is changing,they are all becoming virtual independants in both parties. Result of weak leaders, poor policies,the country will end up in anarchy a bit like Italy. This is partly due to brexit but also a sign of the times we live in. It maybe better for the country if the 2 main parties split along Brexit lines. One pro EU remain party and one pro Brexit leave party. Seeing as most constituencies voted Leave in the referendum and around 85% of the public voted for Brexit manifestos in the general election it's pretty clear which party would win. " I actually think that could be an interesting approach. However, believe it or not, our government have more to deal with than just Brexit. And contrary to your myopic view, and as has been explained to you several times already, the fact that 85% of the public voted for parties with Brexit manifestos does not mean they support Brexit itself. Brexit is just sucking up all the political oxygen at the moment. -Matt | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons. "So to clarify, Centaur confirms that he is Anti Corbyn, NOT anti racist. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons. "I agree that he is the clown that is making a mess of running his own little circus. But I do wonder what will happen if the old bastard lives long enough to bear the fruits of all the promises (lies) he told the young people who appear to believe the shit. This guy is worse than Tony Benn, Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock all put together, with the influences of Karl Marx and Gerry Adams thrown in for “good” measure. Imagine the mess we would be in if ever he did get elected!! | |||
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"Lets face it politics is changing,they are all becoming virtual independants in both parties. Result of weak leaders, poor policies,the country will end up in anarchy a bit like Italy. This is partly due to brexit but also a sign of the times we live in. It maybe better for the country if the 2 main parties split along Brexit lines. One pro EU remain party and one pro Brexit leave party. Seeing as most constituencies voted Leave in the referendum and around 85% of the public voted for Brexit manifestos in the general election it's pretty clear which party would win. I actually think that could be an interesting approach. However, believe it or not, our government have more to deal with than just Brexit. And contrary to your myopic view, and as has been explained to you several times already, the fact that 85% of the public voted for parties with Brexit manifestos does not mean they support Brexit itself. Brexit is just sucking up all the political oxygen at the moment. -Matt" I may need to have a game of thinking about what these two fantasy parties would look like and how they stack up in a government (not brexit) face off. Especially if we can add in those not currently in the HoC but who could be if we were to reconstruct the parties. So I’d include hannan, farage, Cameron, and osbourne. | |||
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"must keep old jc in charge ...he is doing his best to keep the tories in power....boy is he weak" Two things. First in answer to the above. The mess this country is in is the direct result of Tory policies and Tory willingness to sacrifice anything, including the future of the country to remain in power. I for one do not want to see another GE until after brexit. Tories made the mess they can own the results. Second, and this is a general point. Although Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party I notice he is not resigning as an MP and putting himself forward for reelection in a by-election. So I for one will not be setting much store in any of his self-serving rhetoric. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader." Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. " Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off." Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. | |||
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"Corbyn is the least racist person I know. He's protected the rights of people who were oppressed through dictatorships all over the world. He was a part of our Chilean community in London too and well know to us. Corbyn clearly says anti-zionist, being against the Israel regime is not anti-Semitic. He didn't redefine it. He's clarifying what it actually means. I saw the article on the Sun and they took it out of context. Go to a free Palestine protest. You will see it's not about race but the state. " Labour MP Margaret Hodge clearly disagrees and she is a Jew herself. It was her who called Corbyn a "fucking anti semite and a racist". She also said to Corbyn,... "You don't want people like me in the party". Corbyn didn't deny it, all he said in reply was "I'm sorry you feel like that". The exchange between the two has been independently verified by several different people, mainly Labour party members. As for your view that Corbyn has protected the rights of people who are oppressed by dictatorships all over the world it's simply not true. Corbyn has repeatedly refused to condemn the brutal dictatorship of Maduro in Venezuela, probably because he backs the dictatorial, authoritarian oppressive regime there. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons.
I agree that he is the clown that is making a mess of running his own little circus. But I do wonder what will happen if the old bastard lives long enough to bear the fruits of all the promises (lies) he told the young people who appear to believe the shit.
This guy is worse than Tony Benn, Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock all put together, with the influences of Karl Marx and Gerry Adams thrown in for “good” measure. Imagine the mess we would be in if ever he did get elected!!"Didn't Trump meet Gerry Adams too? | |||
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"Corbyn is the least racist person I know. He's protected the rights of people who were oppressed through dictatorships all over the world. He was a part of our Chilean community in London too and well know to us. Corbyn clearly says anti-zionist, being against the Israel regime is not anti-Semitic. He didn't redefine it. He's clarifying what it actually means. I saw the article on the Sun and they took it out of context. Go to a free Palestine protest. You will see it's not about race but the state. Labour MP Margaret Hodge clearly disagrees and she is a Jew herself. It was her who called Corbyn a "fucking anti semite and a racist". She also said to Corbyn,... "You don't want people like me in the party". Corbyn didn't deny it, all he said in reply was "I'm sorry you feel like that". The exchange between the two has been independently verified by several different people, mainly Labour party members. As for your view that Corbyn has protected the rights of people who are oppressed by dictatorships all over the world it's simply not true. Corbyn has repeatedly refused to condemn the brutal dictatorship of Maduro in Venezuela, probably because he backs the dictatorial, authoritarian oppressive regime there. " So "a Jew" (your words) suddenly speaks for all Jews, because apparently they aren't capable of differing opinions? Who's the anti-Semite? | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons.
I agree that he is the clown that is making a mess of running his own little circus. But I do wonder what will happen if the old bastard lives long enough to bear the fruits of all the promises (lies) he told the young people who appear to believe the shit.
This guy is worse than Tony Benn, Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock all put together, with the influences of Karl Marx and Gerry Adams thrown in for “good” measure. Imagine the mess we would be in if ever he did get elected!!
Didn't Trump meet Gerry Adams too?"As did Thatcher. Corbyn was working for Mo Mowlam at the time... | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. " Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? | |||
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"didn't murdering ukip fucknugget, Steven Searle, grip his wife around the throat untill she ceased to exist? .... what a right wing brextremist shitmonger "Another pointless out of context contribution from Mr Angry! | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they?" I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not? | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not?" Are you comparing today's political landscape with that of revolutionary France? | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not? Are you comparing today's political landscape with that of revolutionary France? " No. Nor am I comparing it to revolutionary Europe in 1848,the unification of Germany in the late 19th century or the American war of Independence. What I am saying is, the notion of monarchies not being tolerable is present (although not universal) all across the political spectrum, with the possible exception of some strands of the far right. It's not unique to the far Left. Are you saying that the Republican party of the USA are somehow left wing? | |||
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"the blasé call that searle the sickening brextremist murderer made to the poor emergency services is disgusting "What has this got to do with the topic in hand please? | |||
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"the blasé call that searle the sickening brextremist murderer made to the poor emergency services is disgusting "Completely off topic, take your nonsense elsewhere. Anything to add about the topic of the thread being Woodcock's resignation from the Labour party or Corbyn's record as leader of the party? | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not? Are you comparing today's political landscape with that of revolutionary France? No. Nor am I comparing it to revolutionary Europe in 1848,the unification of Germany in the late 19th century or the American war of Independence. What I am saying is, the notion of monarchies not being tolerable is present (although not universal) all across the political spectrum, with the possible exception of some strands of the far right. It's not unique to the far Left. " However, one could surmise, that what with the close ties between parliament and crown, any obvious hatred of monarchy by a member of parliament could never be construed as centrist or "middle of the road". | |||
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"Ok centuar. I am starting to think you know nothing about Latin American history. Let's say there is this big global force controlling the UK. In your opinion it's the EU. They're taking your resources, not allowing the UK to sell their goods, controlling their policy, allowing their people to come in and take their jobs and richness. In this hypothetical situation there are two scenarios. Scenario 1. Imagine Brexit fails because the EU force a government change in the UK who is pro EU. Secretly trying to break the government and make it collapse. It does and a pro EU government is formed. So the oppression of the EU continues. Or scenario 2. We take back control. Brexit goes through. Then the EU tried everything to stop you succeeding. Not make trades with you. Block the UK from making trades with anyone else. Brexit fails because of the continued medlong of the EU. You'd be pissed off in either scenario with the EU. Ok. Latin American history. In scenario 1 change the UK to Chile. Change the EU to the USA. That is what happened. In scenario two, change UK to Venezuela and change the EU to the USA. This is why Corbyn protested against Pinochet who forced a pro American economy and politics and took away the riches of the country to the elite. But at the same time cannot condemn Maduros party because the USA has been doing anything they can to get back in." So that's why jeremy is anti EU.  | |||
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"Ok centuar. I am starting to think you know nothing about Latin American history. Let's say there is this big global force controlling the UK. In your opinion it's the EU. They're taking your resources, not allowing the UK to sell their goods, controlling their policy, allowing their people to come in and take their jobs and richness. In this hypothetical situation there are two scenarios. Scenario 1. Imagine Brexit fails because the EU force a government change in the UK who is pro EU. Secretly trying to break the government and make it collapse. It does and a pro EU government is formed. So the oppression of the EU continues. Or scenario 2. We take back control. Brexit goes through. Then the EU tried everything to stop you succeeding. Not make trades with you. Block the UK from making trades with anyone else. Brexit fails because of the continued medlong of the EU. You'd be pissed off in either scenario with the EU. Ok. Latin American history. In scenario 1 change the UK to Chile. Change the EU to the USA. That is what happened. In scenario two, change UK to Venezuela and change the EU to the USA. This is why Corbyn protested against Pinochet who forced a pro American economy and politics and took away the riches of the country to the elite. But at the same time cannot condemn Maduros party because the USA has been doing anything they can to get back in." Now the original point. Can a Jewish person be anti-zionist and not be anti semetic? It's like saying if you're against the government then you are anti britain. Now if someone is pro Israel faces someone else who isn't wouldn't they call them anti Semitic to be below the belt? Again it's like a left wing person calling you a racist because you're on the wrong side of the political spectrum. Since you are pro Jew and seem to care about the people of Venezuela I am assuming you're not racist. I still think you're just like the revelotionary socialist/Marxist Latin Americansit's who wants control back in their country and fighting the greater power. You're more like Maduro than Hitler to be honest. | |||
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"Ok centuar. I am starting to think you know nothing about Latin American history. Let's say there is this big global force controlling the UK. In your opinion it's the EU. They're taking your resources, not allowing the UK to sell their goods, controlling their policy, allowing their people to come in and take their jobs and richness. In this hypothetical situation there are two scenarios. Scenario 1. Imagine Brexit fails because the EU force a government change in the UK who is pro EU. Secretly trying to break the government and make it collapse. It does and a pro EU government is formed. So the oppression of the EU continues. Or scenario 2. We take back control. Brexit goes through. Then the EU tried everything to stop you succeeding. Not make trades with you. Block the UK from making trades with anyone else. Brexit fails because of the continued medlong of the EU. You'd be pissed off in either scenario with the EU. Ok. Latin American history. In scenario 1 change the UK to Chile. Change the EU to the USA. That is what happened. In scenario two, change UK to Venezuela and change the EU to the USA. This is why Corbyn protested against Pinochet who forced a pro American economy and politics and took away the riches of the country to the elite. But at the same time cannot condemn Maduros party because the USA has been doing anything they can to get back in. So that's why jeremy is anti EU. "But it doesn't end well. In Chile all their natural resources were given back to American companies. There is extreme poor and rich. It created a rift between pro Pinochet and anti Pinochet (50/50) for over 40 years. Chile is also the country that had the strongest economy. So imagine the other countries that lived through CIA sponsored dictatorship. Cuba and Venezuela are not CIA sponsored governments. They've suffered through the sanctions and the atttempted take overs. It seems the only way to win in South America is to let the EU, I mean USA, win by giving up the socialist dream or suffer the consequence of dictatorships, revolution or sanctions. Now this is a topic drift. | |||
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"Corbyn is the least racist person I know. He's protected the rights of people who were oppressed through dictatorships all over the world. He was a part of our Chilean community in London too and well know to us. Corbyn clearly says anti-zionist, being against the Israel regime is not anti-Semitic. He didn't redefine it. He's clarifying what it actually means. I saw the article on the Sun and they took it out of context. Go to a free Palestine protest. You will see it's not about race but the state. Labour MP Margaret Hodge clearly disagrees and she is a Jew herself. It was her who called Corbyn a "fucking anti semite and a racist". She also said to Corbyn,... "You don't want people like me in the party". Corbyn didn't deny it, all he said in reply was "I'm sorry you feel like that". The exchange between the two has been independently verified by several different people, mainly Labour party members. As for your view that Corbyn has protected the rights of people who are oppressed by dictatorships all over the world it's simply not true. Corbyn has repeatedly refused to condemn the brutal dictatorship of Maduro in Venezuela, probably because he backs the dictatorial, authoritarian oppressive regime there. So "a Jew" (your words) suddenly speaks for all Jews, because apparently they aren't capable of differing opinions? Who's the anti-Semite?" Not just 'one Jew' though is it. As Labour MP John Mann pointed out on the BBC Daily politics programme the chief rabbi in the UK disagrees with Corbyn's new definition of anti semitism and is backed by large swathes of the Jewish community in the UK who feel the same. There is an internationally recognised definition of anti semitism, which even our own police force use to make cases on hate crimes against Jews. Now Corbyn has decided he doesn't agree with the internationally recognised definition and has decided to pen his own definition of what he thinks anti semitism means and he has applied it to the whole of the Labour party. Didn't the general election where large sections of the Jewish community voted against Labour tell you anything? | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not? Are you comparing today's political landscape with that of revolutionary France? No. Nor am I comparing it to revolutionary Europe in 1848,the unification of Germany in the late 19th century or the American war of Independence. What I am saying is, the notion of monarchies not being tolerable is present (although not universal) all across the political spectrum, with the possible exception of some strands of the far right. It's not unique to the far Left. However, one could surmise, that what with the close ties between parliament and crown, any obvious hatred of monarchy by a member of parliament could never be construed as centrist or "middle of the road". " One could, but one would be a bit of an idiot. | |||
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" Not just 'one Jew' though is it. As Labour MP John Mann pointed out on the BBC Daily politics programme the chief rabbi in the UK disagrees with Corbyn's new definition of anti semitism and is backed by large swathes of the Jewish community in the UK who feel the same. There is an internationally recognised definition of anti semitism, which even our own police force use to make cases on hate crimes against Jews. Now Corbyn has decided he doesn't agree with the internationally recognised definition and has decided to pen his own definition of what he thinks anti semitism means and he has applied it to the whole of the Labour party. Didn't the general election where large sections of the Jewish community voted against Labour tell you anything? " I decided to find out what is different. So the code of conduct is the same but they omit 4 examples. I can see why they can be taken badly. But it's a grey area. They talk about Israel. However the first point is predudice against the Jewish not racism. The second is an accusation against Israel. The third one is a bit confusing. Maybe saying to the Saudi government to treat women equally is anti Saudi? The fourth one is anti Israel but can see why it angers the Jewish community. Sounds a lot like political correctness... "Accusing Jewish people of being more loyal to Israel than their home country Claiming that Israel's existence as a state is a racist endeavour Requiring higher standards of behaviour from Israel than other nations Comparing contemporary Israeli policies to those of the Nazis" | |||
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" Not just 'one Jew' though is it. As Labour MP John Mann pointed out on the BBC Daily politics programme the chief rabbi in the UK disagrees with Corbyn's new definition of anti semitism and is backed by large swathes of the Jewish community in the UK who feel the same. There is an internationally recognised definition of anti semitism, which even our own police force use to make cases on hate crimes against Jews. Now Corbyn has decided he doesn't agree with the internationally recognised definition and has decided to pen his own definition of what he thinks anti semitism means and he has applied it to the whole of the Labour party. Didn't the general election where large sections of the Jewish community voted against Labour tell you anything? I decided to find out what is different. So the code of conduct is the same but they omit 4 examples. I can see why they can be taken badly. But it's a grey area. They talk about Israel. However the first point is predudice against the Jewish not racism. The second is an accusation against Israel. The third one is a bit confusing. Maybe saying to the Saudi government to treat women equally is anti Saudi? The fourth one is anti Israel but can see why it angers the Jewish community. Sounds a lot like political correctness... "Accusing Jewish people of being more loyal to Israel than their home country Claiming that Israel's existence as a state is a racist endeavour Requiring higher standards of behaviour from Israel than other nations Comparing contemporary Israeli policies to those of the Nazis"" Why can't Corbyn just accept the internationally recognised definition of anti semitism like everyone else? | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not? Are you comparing today's political landscape with that of revolutionary France? No. Nor am I comparing it to revolutionary Europe in 1848,the unification of Germany in the late 19th century or the American war of Independence. What I am saying is, the notion of monarchies not being tolerable is present (although not universal) all across the political spectrum, with the possible exception of some strands of the far right. It's not unique to the far Left. However, one could surmise, that what with the close ties between parliament and crown, any obvious hatred of monarchy by a member of parliament could never be construed as centrist or "middle of the road". One could, but one would be a bit of an idiot." Classic fab rebuttal. | |||
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"Corbyn is the least racist person I know. He's protected the rights of people who were oppressed through dictatorships all over the world. He was a part of our Chilean community in London too and well know to us. Corbyn clearly says anti-zionist, being against the Israel regime is not anti-Semitic. He didn't redefine it. He's clarifying what it actually means. I saw the article on the Sun and they took it out of context. Go to a free Palestine protest. You will see it's not about race but the state. " You make the common mistake of equating Zionism with the present Israeli regime. Zionism is a movement established at the end of the 19th century to establish and protect a Jewish homeland in Israel. This is nothing to do with whichever government/regime may presently be in power in Israel. | |||
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"Corbyn is the least racist person I know. He's protected the rights of people who were oppressed through dictatorships all over the world. He was a part of our Chilean community in London too and well know to us. Corbyn clearly says anti-zionist, being against the Israel regime is not anti-Semitic. He didn't redefine it. He's clarifying what it actually means. I saw the article on the Sun and they took it out of context. Go to a free Palestine protest. You will see it's not about race but the state. You make the common mistake of equating Zionism with the present Israeli regime. Zionism is a movement established at the end of the 19th century to establish and protect a Jewish homeland in Israel. This is nothing to do with whichever government/regime may presently be in power in Israel." So how does someone protesting about a state blur the lines with antisemitism? | |||
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"Corbyn is the least racist person I know. He's protected the rights of people who were oppressed through dictatorships all over the world. He was a part of our Chilean community in London too and well know to us. Corbyn clearly says anti-zionist, being against the Israel regime is not anti-Semitic. He didn't redefine it. He's clarifying what it actually means. I saw the article on the Sun and they took it out of context. Go to a free Palestine protest. You will see it's not about race but the state. You make the common mistake of equating Zionism with the present Israeli regime. Zionism is a movement established at the end of the 19th century to establish and protect a Jewish homeland in Israel. This is nothing to do with whichever government/regime may presently be in power in Israel." Ah but language is a bitch. It can evolve. That's why there are always additions to the dictionary. But people taking (the modern definition of) anti Zionist can go too far and persecute Jewish people about it which then slips into anti semitism. For example, blaming all British people for the actions of a government. This would be prejudice. This is confusing haha. | |||
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"The point is, apparently noone can criticise what israel is doing to Palestine. The genocide and slaughter of palestinians is cool Israel are doing gods work If you have a problem with that You hate jews Labelled anti semitic THAT is what Corbyn has been accused of So apparently you're not allowed to criticize the conflict or else you're jew bashing. Ridiculous " Yep. I think Tony Benn said similar. I can't post the link due to the link having the letter K and the number 9 in close proximity.. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? " After John Woodcock left the Labour party recently he has now been joined by another. Labour MP Frank Field has just resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP in Parliament. He gave his reasons for leaving as the continued anti semitism within the Labour party which he can't tolerate and the bullying and intimidation that is going on within the party towards Labour Jewish MP's, and also towards Labour Brexit backing MP's of which he is one. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? After John Woodcock left the Labour party recently he has now been joined by another. Labour MP Frank Field has just resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP in Parliament. He gave his reasons for leaving as the continued anti semitism within the Labour party which he can't tolerate and the bullying and intimidation that is going on within the party towards Labour Jewish MP's, and also towards Labour Brexit backing MP's of which he is one. " Frank Field was probably the only MP that could have ever convinced me to vote Labour. An honourable decent man with more common sense than the rest of the party put together. Thankfully he is still in parliament, but the Labour party will be a lot poorer without him. | |||
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"I am once again going to have to correct centy He has resigned the labour whip and will sit as an independent labour mp... he has not resigned from the actual Labour Party " Pedant. | |||
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"I am once again going to have to correct centy He has resigned the labour whip and will sit as an independent labour mp... he has not resigned from the actual Labour Party " Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going?  | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons.
I agree that he is the clown that is making a mess of running his own little circus. But I do wonder what will happen if the old bastard lives long enough to bear the fruits of all the promises (lies) he told the young people who appear to believe the shit.
This guy is worse than Tony Benn, Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock all put together, with the influences of Karl Marx and Gerry Adams thrown in for “good” measure. Imagine the mess we would be in if ever he did get elected!!"Couldn't you say exactly the same thing about the promises made about Brexit? However in five years we'd still be stuck with the consequences. | |||
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? " We have the worst political leadership of a generation during the most important changes to the country in a generation. Frank Field has every right to resign his whip if he has parted company with his party. I don't really believe that it's suddenly come anti-Semitic or that he's just noticed that it always has been. Corbyn cannot apologise nor see how what he has expressed in the past was anything less than righteous. Stubbornness is good for campaigning but terrible for governing. | |||
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"I am once again going to have to correct centy He has resigned the labour whip and will sit as an independent labour mp... he has not resigned from the actual Labour Party Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going? "Gone where? He's still an MP, still a member of the Labour party, he just isn't going to be whipped anymore. Considering Corbyn voted against the whip about 250 times when he was back bencher it highlights what an odd system it can be. | |||
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"We have the worst political leadership of a generation during the most important changes to the country in a generation." No we do not. "Frank Field has every right to resign his whip if he has parted company with his party." True, but if he has any decency he will now resign the seat and if he believes he has the support stand as an independent in a by-election. "I don't really believe that it's suddenly come anti-Semitic or that he's just noticed that it always has been." Agreed, this is just the latest round in the 'get Corbyn' campaign. "Corbyn cannot apologise nor see how what he has expressed in the past was anything less than righteous. Stubbornness is good for campaigning but terrible for governing." WTF! How many accusations so far? How many retractions when faced with the prospect of deformation suits? Somehow we now live in a country where objecting to Israeli snipers shooting children and beating up women for being Palestinian is antisemitic! Somehow we have allowed the far right to so dominate the media that it is politically incorrect to object to fascists killing children because UK PLC sells arms to the killers and how dare JC even suggest that we shouldn't and say if he comes to power he will stop the trade! | |||
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"We have the worst political leadership of a generation during the most important changes to the country in a generation. No we do not. Frank Field has every right to resign his whip if he has parted company with his party. True, but if he has any decency he will now resign the seat and if he believes he has the support stand as an independent in a by-election. I don't really believe that it's suddenly come anti-Semitic or that he's just noticed that it always has been. Agreed, this is just the latest round in the 'get Corbyn' campaign. Corbyn cannot apologise nor see how what he has expressed in the past was anything less than righteous. Stubbornness is good for campaigning but terrible for governing. WTF! How many accusations so far? How many retractions when faced with the prospect of deformation suits? Somehow we now live in a country where objecting to Israeli snipers shooting children and beating up women for being Palestinian is antisemitic! Somehow we have allowed the far right to so dominate the media that it is politically incorrect to object to fascists killing children because UK PLC sells arms to the killers and how dare JC even suggest that we shouldn't and say if he comes to power he will stop the trade!" You think the country has good political leadership? A purposeful government and a coherent opposition? I did not say that the reasons behind Corbyn saying and doing what he has in the past were wrong. I said that he needs to see that they can be viewed in a far from positive light. He should understand the mood and explain and apologise as appropriate. Make compromises where they are appropriate and not fundamental. That is what being a political leader entails. | |||
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"We have the worst political leadership of a generation during the most important changes to the country in a generation. No we do not. Frank Field has every right to resign his whip if he has parted company with his party. True, but if he has any decency he will now resign the seat and if he believes he has the support stand as an independent in a by-election. I don't really believe that it's suddenly come anti-Semitic or that he's just noticed that it always has been. Agreed, this is just the latest round in the 'get Corbyn' campaign. Corbyn cannot apologise nor see how what he has expressed in the past was anything less than righteous. Stubbornness is good for campaigning but terrible for governing. WTF! How many accusations so far? How many retractions when faced with the prospect of deformation suits? Somehow we now live in a country where objecting to Israeli snipers shooting children and beating up women for being Palestinian is antisemitic! Somehow we have allowed the far right to so dominate the media that it is politically incorrect to object to fascists killing children because UK PLC sells arms to the killers and how dare JC even suggest that we shouldn't and say if he comes to power he will stop the trade! You think the country has good political leadership? A purposeful government and a coherent opposition? I did not say that the reasons behind Corbyn saying and doing what he has in the past were wrong. I said that he needs to see that they can be viewed in a far from positive light. He should understand the mood and explain and apologise as appropriate. Make compromises where they are appropriate and not fundamental. That is what being a political leader entails." He definitely shouldn't apologise. To do so would mean that he had something to apologise for. He does give explanations. They are, however frequently not the "soundboard politics" that people are used to from politicians. This has often led to him being quoted with no context whatsoever. | |||
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"We have the worst political leadership of a generation during the most important changes to the country in a generation. No we do not. Frank Field has every right to resign his whip if he has parted company with his party. True, but if he has any decency he will now resign the seat and if he believes he has the support stand as an independent in a by-election. I don't really believe that it's suddenly come anti-Semitic or that he's just noticed that it always has been. Agreed, this is just the latest round in the 'get Corbyn' campaign. Corbyn cannot apologise nor see how what he has expressed in the past was anything less than righteous. Stubbornness is good for campaigning but terrible for governing. WTF! How many accusations so far? How many retractions when faced with the prospect of deformation suits? Somehow we now live in a country where objecting to Israeli snipers shooting children and beating up women for being Palestinian is antisemitic! Somehow we have allowed the far right to so dominate the media that it is politically incorrect to object to fascists killing children because UK PLC sells arms to the killers and how dare JC even suggest that we shouldn't and say if he comes to power he will stop the trade! You think the country has good political leadership? A purposeful government and a coherent opposition? I did not say that the reasons behind Corbyn saying and doing what he has in the past were wrong. I said that he needs to see that they can be viewed in a far from positive light. He should understand the mood and explain and apologise as appropriate. Make compromises where they are appropriate and not fundamental. That is what being a political leader entails. He definitely shouldn't apologise. To do so would mean that he had something to apologise for. He does give explanations. They are, however frequently not the "soundboard politics" that people are used to from politicians. This has often led to him being quoted with no context whatsoever." I will apologise to someone for things I have sid if I have upset them even if my facts are right. It's only pride that stops you. There is also the political reality of alienating a large community. Too late to apologise now anyway. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. " I guess that depends where you believe the centre to be. I'd say he's well to the left of centre trying to control a party with a lot of centre left MPs. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. I guess that depends where you believe the centre to be. I'd say he's well to the left of centre trying to control a party with a lot of centre left MPs. " Yes, he's to the left of centre. A social democrat. Most Blairites are centre right. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. I guess that depends where you believe the centre to be. I'd say he's well to the left of centre trying to control a party with a lot of centre left MPs. Yes, he's to the left of centre. A social democrat. Most Blairites are centre right. " I see him as a full blown fairly hard left socialist and the Blairites as left of centre social democrats. If the centre has moved anywhere in British politics, and I believe it has, it's moved well to the right, not the left. Corbyn (and I don't actually dislike him personally) has never been considered a centerist and he's not now. | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. I guess that depends where you believe the centre to be. I'd say he's well to the left of centre trying to control a party with a lot of centre left MPs. Yes, he's to the left of centre. A social democrat. Most Blairites are centre right. I see him as a full blown fairly hard left socialist and the Blairites as left of centre social democrats. If the centre has moved anywhere in British politics, and I believe it has, it's moved well to the right, not the left. Corbyn (and I don't actually dislike him personally) has never been considered a centerist and he's not now." Hard left how? He's a social democrat, not a vanguardist. That's centre left. Hard left are communists etc. Blair was a third way centrist, firmly opposed to the state ownership of resources, an advocate of "responsible capitalism" policed by the market. A centre right liberal. | |||
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"Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going? "I'll say something... It is rather interesting that Field should resign the whip just when he faces deselection by his CLP for backing May's 'no deal' brexit... Or maybe that's just happenstance. Tea right. | |||
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"Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going?
I'll say something...
It is rather interesting that Field should resign the whip just when he faces deselection by his CLP for backing May's 'no deal' brexit...
Or maybe that's just happenstance.
Tea right. "You are not wrong in this respect. Under these circumstances he really should go to a bi-election but I suspect that he will retire and wants to use his votes in specific ways until then. | |||
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"Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going?
I'll say something...
It is rather interesting that Field should resign the whip just when he faces deselection by his CLP for backing May's 'no deal' brexit...
Or maybe that's just happenstance.
Tea right. "Can I take it that you support Chris Williamson's "Democracy Roadshow"? Visiting constituencies of MPs that are not Corbyn supporters, and gathering support for automatic deselection. | |||
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"Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going?
I'll say something...
It is rather interesting that Field should resign the whip just when he faces deselection by his CLP for backing May's 'no deal' brexit...
Or maybe that's just happenstance.
Tea right.
You are not wrong in this respect.
Under these circumstances he really should go to a bi-election but I suspect that he will retire and wants to use his votes in specific ways until then."Labour sources are saying that without the whip, they now cannot still be members of the Labour Party. I believe that there is a hastily convened meeting of the Labour NEC next week to discuss. | |||
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"Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going?
I'll say something...
It is rather interesting that Field should resign the whip just when he faces deselection by his CLP for backing May's 'no deal' brexit...
Or maybe that's just happenstance.
Tea right. "And just how many times did Corbyn rebel against the Labour whip and vote against the party when he was a back bencher? I believe he holds the record in the Labour party for rebelling the most on number of votes? Was Corbyn ever threatened with deselection over his incessant rebelling? Maybe you can remind us? | |||
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"Rather than picking flies anything to actually say about Frank Field going?
I'll say something...
It is rather interesting that Field should resign the whip just when he faces deselection by his CLP for backing May's 'no deal' brexit...
Or maybe that's just happenstance.
Tea right.
And just how many times did Corbyn rebel against the Labour whip and vote against the party when he was a back bencher? I believe he holds the record in the Labour party for rebelling the most on number of votes? Was Corbyn ever threatened with deselection over his incessant rebelling? Maybe you can remind us? "What goes around comes around - he was a pain in the arse to respective leaders - he's now getting some of his own medicine! Having said that "the opposition " is supposed to hold the government of the day accountable - a weak opposition is the worst thing this country needs at the moment! | |||
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"didn't murdering ukip fucknugget, Steven Searle, grip his wife around the throat untill she ceased to exist? .... what a right wing brextremist shitmonger
Another pointless out of context contribution from Mr Angry!"I will continue to read libtard posts, as they sometimes cheer me up with their stupidity. Gotta have a larf | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context. "So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then? 
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
"Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party! | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party! "Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today. "This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for. I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn? "What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin? I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn? "Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him. I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints."They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his. "Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his. "UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here."No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today. "Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen? | |||
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"Corbyn isn't a modern Labour Party leader. He's a Communist, Socialist Workers' Party leader. Really? Why then is he leader of neither the Communist Party of the UK nor the Socialist Workers Party? Aided the peace process? He attended many IRA funerals...do not recall him attending UFF or UVF funerals nor funerals of British Soldiers. Adams will drop him in it soon, now that Adams needs to watch his own back with his fellow nationalists. Fact is, he's a centre left socialist, trying to control a party with a lot of centre right MPs. Probably because he'd have no chance of getting his voice heard. Hopefully, when he's in power he'll take his "middle of the road" mask off. Well it's a "mask" he's worn consistently throughout his career. Oh I'm not sure about that. Not many middle of the road politicians are anti-Semitic, anti nuclear, anti royalty, anti Europe, friends of the ira. Are they? I don't think he's either anti Semitic or any more pro IRA than Thatcher was - if he was pro IRA, why would he have aided the peace process? The other things are pretty centrist, yes. In fact, anti monarchism is common all across the political spectrum. The revolutions that removed monarchies across Europe (and the one in North America) were bourgeois ones, were they not?" | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen? "the same gordon brown that you think is an idealogical hero and you agree with everything politically he's ever said and done? that gordon brown? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen?
the same gordon brown that you think is an idealogical hero and you agree with everything politically he's ever said and done? that gordon brown?"No I don't agree with everything politically Gordon Brown has ever done. At least he had the good sense to keep the British pound and decided not to join the doomed Euro though. That is one thing I did agree with him on. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party. "Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK? Does UKIP. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen? "You don't have the right to dictate which we the thread goes. Once you have posted it you just have to accept if someone wants to discuss something completely different. Isn't that so Centaur? That's what you've always told me  | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen?
You don't have the right to dictate which we the thread goes.
Once you have posted it you just have to accept if someone wants to discuss something completely different.
Isn't that so Centaur? That's what you've always told me "Oh so when you've moaned in the past about threads going off topic, we're just supposed to forget about that then are we?
And if you moan in future of a thread going off topic I'll remind you of this post. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP."Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK. More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen?
You don't have the right to dictate which we the thread goes.
Once you have posted it you just have to accept if someone wants to discuss something completely different.
Isn't that so Centaur? That's what you've always told me
Oh so when you've moaned in the past about threads going off topic, we're just supposed to forget about that then are we?
And if you moan in future of a thread going off topic I'll remind you of this post. "well in that case ... "didn't murdering ukip fucknugget, Steven Searle, grip his wife around the throat untill she ceased to exist? .... what a right wing brextremist shitmonger " | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK.
More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism? "Any extremism is a problem, so whilst we do have a problem with some of that faith it's not all of the Islamic faith as some like to portray.. Would you agree that the extremism of the far right must be equally condemned..? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK.
More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism?
Any extremism is a problem, so whilst we do have a problem with some of that faith it's not all of the Islamic faith as some like to portray..
Would you agree that the extremism of the far right must be equally condemned..? "Yes but as you said "extremism " be it left or right is not good! | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
Getting the thread back on topic now, Gordon Brown has said today that Labour MUST adopt the full internationally recognised definition of anti semitism. Will Corbyn listen?
You don't have the right to dictate which we the thread goes.
Once you have posted it you just have to accept if someone wants to discuss something completely different.
Isn't that so Centaur? That's what you've always told me
Oh so when you've moaned in the past about threads going off topic, we're just supposed to forget about that then are we?
And if you moan in future of a thread going off topic I'll remind you of this post. "Oh wow. You have absolutely no self-awareness. That is absolutely the point. I think that it's a perfectly reasonable to stick to the topic. You have incessantly criticised me for trying to keep threads that I've started on topic. However, as soon as I quote your own words back at you it appears that's unacceptable. Do as I say, not as I do? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK.
More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism? "Islamic extremism is no different to any other form of terrorism. Justifying it with religion, just as Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism and even Buddhism (Buddhism ffs!) Has absolutely no bearing on the religion itself other than to allow it to be stigmatized. Everywhere has a problem with EVERY type of extremism including the Islamic variety. Gerard Batten is UKIPs leader. He believes that Islam (not just extreme interpretations of it) is a "death cult". He also believes that Muslims (not any other group religious or otherwise) should sign an oath denouncing certain parts of the Quran. The full interview is here. Nothing taken out of context. https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/media-centre/articles/en-gb/Sunday-with-Niall-Paterson-Interview-with-Gerard-Batten-MEP-UKIP-Interim-Leader Does UKIP and it's leader have a problem with being anti-Muslim? | |||
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"I haven't read all the the posts on this forum, but was did that MP jump, or was he pushed? No one seems to mention that Frank Field was about to be deselected by his own local constituency Labour party due to him supporting May on Chequers. That was more the reason why he resigned the whip. He has no seat now, and the Labour party won't put on any list. At this moment of time they are asking him to resign the Labour party because he has resigned the whip. Woodcock is in Ilford. It's possible that he was in danger of deselection. I'm waiting to hear news of it before blaming Corbyn. The way things are going, I'm beginning to think this is 'The Chicken Coup -the sequel'. Funny that. All this happening in silly season, when all the local parties have shut up for summer hols and just before conference season... Hmmmm... If this happened in November, it would hit the news for a week at most then disappear..." John Woodcock is the MP for Barrow, not Ilford. He would certainly be at odds with Jeremy Corbyn, as if elected PM, JC would certainly scrap Trident, upon which Barrow relies on for mass employment. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK.
More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism?
Any extremism is a problem, so whilst we do have a problem with some of that faith it's not all of the Islamic faith as some like to portray..
Would you agree that the extremism of the far right must be equally condemned..?
Yes but as you said "extremism " be it left or right is not good!"It's the common ground that all decent sensible people occupy but some struggle with it as their agenda, plain old racist view only sees bad in one and not the other.. And the nutters whomever they are who carry out such vile acts thrive on it.. | |||
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"Frank field ended his career as a politician in Birkenhead the moment he write for the The sun newspaper this year.. That's political suicide on Merseyside .He knew he was finished and he put a final nail in his coffin with his attack on corbyn. Stick a fork in his ass turn him him over he's done. "oohh I didn't know that. He's politically brown bread. Blimey. (Shakes head in shock) | |||
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"Frank field ended his career as a politician in Birkenhead the moment he write for the The sun newspaper this year.. That's political suicide on Merseyside .He knew he was finished and he put a final nail in his coffin with his attack on corbyn. Stick a fork in his ass turn him him over he's done. "His views on thatcher didn't go down too well either.. | |||
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"I haven't read all the the posts on this forum, but was did that MP jump, or was he pushed? No one seems to mention that Frank Field was about to be deselected by his own local constituency Labour party due to him supporting May on Chequers. That was more the reason why he resigned the whip. He has no seat now, and the Labour party won't put on any list. At this moment of time they are asking him to resign the Labour party because he has resigned the whip. Woodcock is in Ilford. It's possible that he was in danger of deselection. I'm waiting to hear news of it before blaming Corbyn. The way things are going, I'm beginning to think this is 'The Chicken Coup -the sequel'. Funny that. All this happening in silly season, when all the local parties have shut up for summer hols and just before conference season... Hmmmm... If this happened in November, it would hit the news for a week at most then disappear... John Woodcock is the MP for Barrow, not Ilford. He would certainly be at odds with Jeremy Corbyn, as if elected PM, JC would certainly scrap Trident, upon which Barrow relies on for mass employment." Ah yes. Sorry about the confusion with Ilford. There is an mp from Ilford who is publically wringing his hands at the moment. I stand corrected.  | |||
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"Frank field ended his career as a politician in Birkenhead the moment he write for the The sun newspaper this year.. That's political suicide on Merseyside .He knew he was finished and he put a final nail in his coffin with his attack on corbyn. Stick a fork in his ass turn him him over he's done.
oohh I didn't know that.
He's politically brown bread.
Blimey.
(Shakes head in shock)"I think it's becoming clear that frank field knew he was a dead man walking and had nothing to lose by stabbing corbyn on his way out. Just another day in politics . | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK.
More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism?
Any extremism is a problem, so whilst we do have a problem with some of that faith it's not all of the Islamic faith as some like to portray..
Would you agree that the extremism of the far right must be equally condemned..? "I have condemned it in the past on here and I've stated on this very thread I don't support far right groups like the kkk or the BNP. You seem to be overly obsessed with just focusing on the far right though. Would you agree that extremism of the far left must be equally condemned (as is now happening with anti semitism under Corbyn's leadership)? | |||
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"Frank field ended his career as a politician in Birkenhead the moment he write for the The sun newspaper this year.. That's political suicide on Merseyside .He knew he was finished and he put a final nail in his coffin with his attack on corbyn. Stick a fork in his ass turn him him over he's done. "I'd love to see a by-election in Birkenhead with Frank Field standing as an independent against a handpicked far left Corbyn Labour candidate. I know my money would be on Frank Field all day long.
And for Corbyn and his Momentum supporters to threaten Frank Field with deselection for rebelling against the whip is laughable considering how many times Corbyn rebelled and voted against the whip when he was a ack bencher. Corbyn holds the record for rebelling most on votes in the Labour party doesn't he? | |||
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" I'd love to see a by-election in Birkenhead with Frank Field standing as an independent against a handpicked far left Corbyn Labour candidate. I know my money would be on Frank Field all day long.
And for Corbyn and his Momentum supporters to threaten Frank Field with deselection for rebelling against the whip is laughable considering how many times Corbyn rebelled and voted against the whip when he was a ack bencher. Corbyn holds the record for rebelling most on votes in the Labour party doesn't he? "The difference between JC and FF is JC always had the backing of his CLP, FF has not had that support for quite a while now. That is why his CLP had started the de-selection process. | |||
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" I'd love to see a by-election in Birkenhead with Frank Field standing as an independent against a handpicked far left Corbyn Labour candidate. I know my money would be on Frank Field all day long.
And for Corbyn and his Momentum supporters to threaten Frank Field with deselection for rebelling against the whip is laughable considering how many times Corbyn rebelled and voted against the whip when he was a ack bencher. Corbyn holds the record for rebelling most on votes in the Labour party doesn't he?
The difference between JC and FF is JC always had the backing of his CLP, FF has not had that support for quite a while now. That is why his CLP had started the de-selection process."Yes but Frank Field voted with the government on Brexit to deliver on the result of the EU referendum which is to Leave the EU and a good many Labour supporters all over the country voted Leave (you included, lol). Frank Field also voted in line with the Labour party general election manifesto promise to deliver Brexit. The real truth is that far left Momentum activists are going around the country looking for any excuse to deselect moderate Labour MP's. | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Off topic, but I'll answer. Not all Muslims are a problem but there is a problem with Islamic extremism in the UK.
More importantly rephrasing the question, would you say the UK doesn't have a problem with Islamic extremism?
Any extremism is a problem, so whilst we do have a problem with some of that faith it's not all of the Islamic faith as some like to portray..
Would you agree that the extremism of the far right must be equally condemned..?
I have condemned it in the past on here and I've stated on this very thread I don't support far right groups like the kkk or the BNP.
You seem to be overly obsessed with just focusing on the far right though.
Would you agree that extremism of the far left must be equally condemned (as is now happening with anti semitism under Corbyn's leadership)? "What part of 'any extremism' above do you not understand? Not a fan of the type of activities that momentum are engaged in and whilst condemning the actions of those who attacked was it Angela Eagle's constituency office, not sure that those on the far left have carried out the type of acts that the far right have here? The anti semitism within labour is as equally wrong and should be condemned yes but so should the racism within your own political affiliations, is it still the kippers or are you a tory again now? | |||
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"Noticed when presented with the truth that corbyn quite obviously never said anything anti Semitic the BNP and EDL members in the forum have fuck all to say .Just shows they couldn't give a fuck about about anti Semitism or the Jewish community.A whole new level of pathetic .Like that time they refused to condemn the KKK.
"You only made reference to one particular incident earlier in the thread, while there have been many separate individual incidents where Corbyn has expressed his anti semitic views and he has shared stages and platforms with known anti semites. In any case it's not always what he says, more a case of what he doesn't say.... He has consistently refused to condemn the anti semitism displayed by the more unsavoury militant far left Momentum Labour acolytes, and he has stayed silent when he should have been speaking out against them. He has shown a complete lack of leadership on this particular issue. But then again maybe he has stayed silent because he agrees with what they are saying. | |||
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"Noticed when presented with the truth that corbyn quite obviously never said anything anti Semitic the BNP and EDL members in the forum have fuck all to say .Just shows they couldn't give a fuck about about anti Semitism or the Jewish community.A whole new level of pathetic .Like that time they refused to condemn the KKK.
You only made reference to one particular incident earlier in the thread, while there have been many separate individual incidents where Corbyn has expressed his anti semitic views and he has shared stages and platforms with known anti semites. In any case it's not always what he says, more a case of what he doesn't say.... He has consistently refused to condemn the anti semitism displayed by the more unsavoury militant far left Momentum Labour acolytes, and he has stayed silent when he should have been speaking out against them. He has shown a complete lack of leadership on this particular issue. But then again maybe he has stayed silent because he agrees with what they are saying. "Gerard Batten is UKIPs leader. He believes that Islam (not just extreme interpretations of it) is a "death cult". He also believes that Muslims (not any other group religious or otherwise) should sign an oath denouncing certain parts of the Quran. The full interview is here. Nothing taken out of context. https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/media-centre/articles/en-gb/Sunday-with-Niall-Paterson-Interview-with-Gerard-Batten-MEP-UKIP-Interim-Leader Does UKIP and it's leader have a problem with being anti-Muslim? | |||
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"Noticed when presented with the truth that corbyn quite obviously never said anything anti Semitic the BNP and EDL members in the forum have fuck all to say .Just shows they couldn't give a fuck about about anti Semitism or the Jewish community.A whole new level of pathetic .Like that time they refused to condemn the KKK.
You only made reference to one particular incident earlier in the thread, while there have been many separate individual incidents where Corbyn has expressed his anti semitic views and he has shared stages and platforms with known anti semites. In any case it's not always what he says, more a case of what he doesn't say.... He has consistently refused to condemn the anti semitism displayed by the more unsavoury militant far left Momentum Labour acolytes, and he has stayed silent when he should have been speaking out against them. He has shown a complete lack of leadership on this particular issue. But then again maybe he has stayed silent because he agrees with what they are saying. "It's arguable that he is anti-Semitic of course. He is certainly often against the actors of Israel but those are different issues. He is expressly against all types of racism. | |||
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"Noticed when presented with the truth that corbyn quite obviously never said anything anti Semitic the BNP and EDL members in the forum have fuck all to say .Just shows they couldn't give a fuck about about anti Semitism or the Jewish community.A whole new level of pathetic .Like that time they refused to condemn the KKK.
You only made reference to one particular incident earlier in the thread, while there have been many separate individual incidents where Corbyn has expressed his anti semitic views and he has shared stages and platforms with known anti semites. In any case it's not always what he says, more a case of what he doesn't say.... He has consistently refused to condemn the anti semitism displayed by the more unsavoury militant far left Momentum Labour acolytes, and he has stayed silent when he should have been speaking out against them. He has shown a complete lack of leadership on this particular issue. But then again maybe he has stayed silent because he agrees with what they are saying. "Would your last sentence apply to you over the murder of the woman in Charlottesville by the neo nazi? Because whilst you have made glib comments about condemning both sides you have yet to totally condemn this murder? | |||
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"Noticed when presented with the truth that corbyn quite obviously never said anything anti Semitic the BNP and EDL members in the forum have fuck all to say .Just shows they couldn't give a fuck about about anti Semitism or the Jewish community.A whole new level of pathetic .Like that time they refused to condemn the KKK.
You only made reference to one particular incident earlier in the thread, while there have been many separate individual incidents where Corbyn has expressed his anti semitic views and he has shared stages and platforms with known anti semites. In any case it's not always what he says, more a case of what he doesn't say.... He has consistently refused to condemn the anti semitism displayed by the more unsavoury militant far left Momentum Labour acolytes, and he has stayed silent when he should have been speaking out against them. He has shown a complete lack of leadership on this particular issue. But then again maybe he has stayed silent because he agrees with what they are saying.
Would your last sentence apply to you over the murder of the woman in Charlottesville by the neo nazi?
Because whilst you have made glib comments about condemning both sides you have yet to totally condemn this murder? "On an earlier post in this thread when I asked you if you condemned far left extremism you said "what part of any extremism don't you understand?" On a similar note here...what part of condemned both sides don't you understand? | |||
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"Noticed when presented with the truth that corbyn quite obviously never said anything anti Semitic the BNP and EDL members in the forum have fuck all to say .Just shows they couldn't give a fuck about about anti Semitism or the Jewish community.A whole new level of pathetic .Like that time they refused to condemn the KKK.
You only made reference to one particular incident earlier in the thread, while there have been many separate individual incidents where Corbyn has expressed his anti semitic views and he has shared stages and platforms with known anti semites. In any case it's not always what he says, more a case of what he doesn't say.... He has consistently refused to condemn the anti semitism displayed by the more unsavoury militant far left Momentum Labour acolytes, and he has stayed silent when he should have been speaking out against them. He has shown a complete lack of leadership on this particular issue. But then again maybe he has stayed silent because he agrees with what they are saying.
Would your last sentence apply to you over the murder of the woman in Charlottesville by the neo nazi?
Because whilst you have made glib comments about condemning both sides you have yet to totally condemn this murder?
On an earlier post in this thread when I asked you if you condemned far left extremism you said "what part of any extremism don't you understand?"
On a similar note here...what part of condemned both sides don't you understand?
"I understand that as usual you will duck and dive rather than specifically condemn that particular murder just as you have done on countless occasions..? The only conclusion given what you said above is that you are in agreement with the actions of that neo nazi murderer.. Btw in case you may have missed it again I have and still do condemn all politically motivated murders by anyone and all acts of terrorism by anyone be they left, right, white or black, Christian, Muslim etc.. | |||
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"Does this really have to become a competition on who can condem the strongest "There's no reason why this thread should be different to ALL of the others on here! People take themselves so seriously as they wax lyrical on a website designed to help people fuck! You clowns! | |||
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"Does this really have to become a competition on who can condem the strongest "that’s all this site does but some ppl are selective on who they condem same shit diffrent day | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP."Nevermind Muslims, the UKIP website says that they are concerned about the implementation of the Kallergi plan. For those who are unfamiliar, the Kallergi plan is a Jewish plot to water down the genes of the master race, by allowing non whites to immigrate an masse. Apparently this will make the resulting mixed children easier to control because they won't be as intelligent.... Who's the anti-Semite now? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Nevermind Muslims, the UKIP website says that they are concerned about the implementation of the Kallergi plan.
For those who are unfamiliar, the Kallergi plan is a Jewish plot to water down the genes of the master race, by allowing non whites to immigrate an masse. Apparently this will make the resulting mixed children easier to control because they won't be as intelligent....
Who's the anti-Semite now?"There was a guy a few months back who posted a link in this forum about the kallergi plan ,the website was run by a guy called Jeff rense .I got some time on the naughty step (which was worth it )after posting a link to his page that celebrates Hitler's birthday and "proof" the holocaust was fake news He was a hardcore kipper.Never seen him since I called him out. 
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"Labour MP John Woodcock has resigned from the Labour party and will now sit as an independent MP. He says Corbyn's leadership or lack there of is the reason he decided to go. Another Labour MP Margaret Hodge also accused Corbyn of being, and I quote..."a fucking anti semite and a racist" after Corbyns new definition of anti semitism within the Labour party came into effect. Corbyn has also had more front bench resignations overall than Theresa May, can he hold on much longer as leader? So now you’re against racists? Why the change of heart? I've always been against Corbyn (my posting history on here proves it) so no change of heart there. Although he does have his uses as the useful idiot in the house of commons.
I agree that he is the clown that is making a mess of running his own little circus. But I do wonder what will happen if the old bastard lives long enough to bear the fruits of all the promises (lies) he told the young people who appear to believe the shit.
This guy is worse than Tony Benn, Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock all put together, with the influences of Karl Marx and Gerry Adams thrown in for “good” measure. Imagine the mess we would be in if ever he did get elected!!"....compared to the mess we're currently in you mean? | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Nevermind Muslims, the UKIP website says that they are concerned about the implementation of the Kallergi plan.
For those who are unfamiliar, the Kallergi plan is a Jewish plot to water down the genes of the master race, by allowing non whites to immigrate an masse. Apparently this will make the resulting mixed children easier to control because they won't be as intelligent....
Who's the anti-Semite now?"I don't really like rooting around sites like that. It makes me feel contaminated. Like accidentally following a link to the Mail. That's the mother of conspiracy theories. It links the creation of the EU to it. Mixing genes tends to produce stronger offspring of course. Better tans too | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Nevermind Muslims, the UKIP website says that they are concerned about the implementation of the Kallergi plan.
For those who are unfamiliar, the Kallergi plan is a Jewish plot to water down the genes of the master race, by allowing non whites to immigrate an masse. Apparently this will make the resulting mixed children easier to control because they won't be as intelligent....
Who's the anti-Semite now?
There was a guy a few months back who posted a link in this forum about the kallergi plan ,the website was run by a guy called Jeff rense .I got some time on the naughty step (which was worth it )after posting a link to his page that celebrates Hitler's birthday and "proof" the holocaust was fake news
He was a hardcore kipper.Never seen him since I called him out.
I think he thought I was part of the kallergi plan as my children's genes are English/Jewish/German /Jamaican and probably a few other nations I don't know about ... "I remember him. Kept quoting pseudo-scientific terms trying to sound as if it was confirmed research but was basically just a nasty racist. I reported him when I saw that link. It was genuinely horrible. He's probably doing the same thing somewhere else though | |||
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"You've gotta live the far right neo con snowflakes get triggered over corbyn call a Zionist a Zionist .I very much doubt any of these neo con illiberal chumps have even seen the video or get the context of his comments.Its a beautiful thing context.
So you think people like Frank Field who are voicing concerns are 'far right neo cons' now then?
Add Margret Hodge, John Mann and Yvette Cooper, all old fashioned socialists, into that. Labour Conference is going to be a blast for the Conservative party!
Add David Blunkett to that list now too. He's come out in support of Frank Field today.
This must really confuse you, on one hand you hate Labour, but on the other hand they’re being accused of bigotry and racism, which you’re usually bang up for.
I wonder if this means you are slightly warming to Corbyn?
What a ridiculous post, but if you want to play that game I could level the same accusations at you on the opposite side of the coin. Are you confused that the far left hero Corbyn is being publicly supported by the likes of the KKK and former BNP leader Nick Griffin?
I wonder if it means you are going off Corbyn?
Was never s Corbyn fan. And because some of your boys support him doesn’t really alter my opinion of him.
I don’t see why it’s rediculous to ridicule you and you’re archaic viewpoints.
They are not 'my boys' and never have been. I'm a ukip supporter, and don't support the kkk or the BNP. The way you have created this fantasy in your head which makes you think I do though is quite amusing. As for Corbyn, I'm on the same page as you and have never been a fan of his.
UKIP / BNP : we are splitting hairs here.
No we are not. Ukip have barred any BNP or former BNP member's from joining the party.
Do you think that Muslims are a problem in the UK?
Does UKIP.
Nevermind Muslims, the UKIP website says that they are concerned about the implementation of the Kallergi plan.
For those who are unfamiliar, the Kallergi plan is a Jewish plot to water down the genes of the master race, by allowing non whites to immigrate an masse. Apparently this will make the resulting mixed children easier to control because they won't be as intelligent....
Who's the anti-Semite now?
I don't really like rooting around sites like that. It makes me feel contaminated. Like accidentally following a link to the Mail.
That's the mother of conspiracy theories. It links the creation of the EU to it.
Mixing genes tends to produce stronger offspring of course. Better tans too "Interesting that Gerard Batten,the UKIP leader also thinks that the EU was a plan put into a action by a former Nazi: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-nazis-created-basic-plan-for-the-european-union-ukip-mep-gerard-batten-says-a7032221.html So a Zionist anti-Semitic conspiracy
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"The Labour Party has just adopted the IHRA full definition of anti Semitism .Lets see what the media do with this. "It shouldn't have got to this. It was dragged here. That's a huge political miscalculation regardless if the truth or half-truth or lies. | |||
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It shouldn't have got to this. It was dragged here.
That's a huge political miscalculation regardless if the truth or half-truth or lies."This.. All the whole shoddy episode has done has caused more division.. Poor management.. | |||
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"The Labour Party has just adopted the IHRA full definition of anti Semitism .Lets see what the media do with this. "Even so, Corbyn himself didn't want it. Was reported on the news (bbc/sky/itv/channel 4) Corbyn made a personal statement at the meeting, 1 and a half pages long saying he wanted to keep his new definition of anti semitism instead of adopting the full internationally recognised version. Seems Corbyn was out-voted though. So what you now have is a Labour party who has adopted the full internationally recognised version of anti semitism that the leader Corbyn doesn't agree with. You also have Peter Willsman the Labour Momentum activist who labelled Corbyn opponents as "Jewish Trump fanatics" just elected to the NEC Labour ruling body. Somehow I don't think the Jewish community will be reassured much by these developments.  | |||
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"The Labour Party has just adopted the IHRA full definition of anti Semitism .Lets see what the media do with this.
Even so, Corbyn himself didn't want it. Was reported on the news (bbc/sky/itv/channel 4) Corbyn made a personal statement at the meeting, 1 and a half pages long saying he wanted to keep his new definition of anti semitism instead of adopting the full internationally recognised version. Seems Corbyn was out-voted though.
So what you now have is a Labour party who has adopted the full internationally recognised version of anti semitism that the leader Corbyn doesn't agree with.
You also have Peter Willsman the Labour Momentum activist who labelled Corbyn opponents as "Jewish Trump fanatics" just elected to the NEC Labour ruling body. Somehow I don't think the Jewish community will be reassured much by these developments. "Gerard Batten is UKIPs leader. He believes that Islam (not just extreme interpretations of it) is a "death cult". He also believes that Muslims (not any other group religious or otherwise) should sign an oath denouncing certain parts of the Quran. The full interview is here. Nothing taken out of context. https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/media-centre/articles/en-gb/Sunday-with-Niall-Paterson-Interview-with-Gerard-Batten-MEP-UKIP-Interim-Leader Does UKIP and it's leader have a problem with being anti-Muslim? | |||
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