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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good?" Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? " Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan... | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan..." EU gravy train? But I thought we sent them more than we get back, etc etc? Surely the only one the 'gravy train' really applies to is Farage, since he takes his wage and pension for doing fuck all? -Matt | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? " There are some real swivel-eyed types in the conservative party, where their thinking doesn't seem to stack up too well and they often seem almost hell-bent on destruction of their party. Whilst they have some unpredictability, the usual suspects are predictable solely for aiming to line their nests a little further, getting closer to becoming Prime Minister at some point. They run the risk of premature speculation, taking the job but not holding it for long, or still holding the poison chalice that Theresa May was gifted with, which means they get blamed for brexit failures at a minimum. But, if they had someone else who could stand in the PM role, until they'd be willing to take it on, then there's no saying what they'd be willing to do. Apparently there are about 40 of the 48 required letters that have already been received. It's partly going to depend on what response May has to the current bill amendments going through parliament. Will she as good as enforce her white paper/chequers agreement, that the government signed up to? | |||
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"The Maybots latest backdown is not a backdown. We have this on good authority, the PM told Parliament. "I think the Maybot has had a virus hijack, so it's now part Mognot. The bot survived the week  | |||
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"The Maybots latest backdown is not a backdown. We have this on good authority, the PM told Parliament.
I think the Maybot has had a virus hijack, so it's now part Mognot.
The bot survived the week "Part Mogbot | |||
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"I'm wondering if the Tories realised just what a poisoned chalice Brexit is, and they are willing to take any way of passing the responsibility that they can..." Nothing trumps the power - they think it is their duty, their right. | |||
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"I'm wondering if the Tories realised just what a poisoned chalice Brexit is, and they are willing to take any way of passing the responsibility that they can... Nothing trumps the power - they think it is their duty, their right." True, but I think the calculus being used at the moment is that while power is great, having power right now is a sure way to get relieved of it pretty sharpish. Basically, it's easier to snipe from the sidelines as it stands and swoop in after brexit has thoroughly shat the bed. Explains why with this constant skuttlebutt of a no confidence vote the usual clownshoe motherfuckers are actively working to not be seen as the replacement. | |||
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"I'm wondering if the Tories realised just what a poisoned chalice Brexit is, and they are willing to take any way of passing the responsibility that they can..." Think Boris realised it when cameron dropped the brexit baby after the result and he got Give to slste him to give him an opt out.. People like Boris are not stupid and know full well its undeliverable anywhere near how they sold it to get the vote.. Hence they are happy to let chaos reign rather than take responsibility.. | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan... EU gravy train? But I thought we sent them more than we get back, etc etc? Surely the only one the 'gravy train' really applies to is Farage, since he takes his wage and pension for doing fuck all? -Matt" It was never our gravy train, but one for the politicians, not only Nige is going to miss his “pension.” British politicians have been skimming money off the top of various EU deals for decades, as have big business leaders. The poorer people in the UK have got nothing from it, indeed it has all been to our detriment. | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan... EU gravy train? But I thought we sent them more than we get back, etc etc? Surely the only one the 'gravy train' really applies to is Farage, since he takes his wage and pension for doing fuck all? -Matt It was never our gravy train, but one for the politicians, not only Nige is going to miss his “pension.” British politicians have been skimming money off the top of various EU deals for decades, as have big business leaders. The poorer people in the UK have got nothing from it, indeed it has all been to our detriment." This reads like we need to get out of the EU because our politicians and business are dodgy ... less the Eu is bad, just we can’t be trusted in the EU ? | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan... EU gravy train? But I thought we sent them more than we get back, etc etc? Surely the only one the 'gravy train' really applies to is Farage, since he takes his wage and pension for doing fuck all? -Matt It was never our gravy train, but one for the politicians, not only Nige is going to miss his “pension.” British politicians have been skimming money off the top of various EU deals for decades, as have big business leaders. The poorer people in the UK have got nothing from it, indeed it has all been to our detriment. This reads like we need to get out of the EU because our politicians and business are dodgy ... less the Eu is bad, just we can’t be trusted in the EU ?" You sound like a desperate remoaner.. | |||
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"In order to secure a vote of no confidence in May before the long summer parliamentary recess, the party must act this week - probably by Wednesday. 48 letters have to be received, which would trigger MPs voting for or against her. Before the summer break or to coincide with the autumn conference season? More harm than good? Imagine sitting in Brussels and watching this pantomime unfold. A Tory leadership contest, if it resulted in May's defeat, almost certainly would be followed by a General Election. So absolutely no chance of any agreement between the EU and the UK by October. Is this the cunning plan of the British nationalists - to so paralyse British politics that we crash out of the EU by default? Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan... EU gravy train? But I thought we sent them more than we get back, etc etc? Surely the only one the 'gravy train' really applies to is Farage, since he takes his wage and pension for doing fuck all? -Matt It was never our gravy train, but one for the politicians, not only Nige is going to miss his “pension.” British politicians have been skimming money off the top of various EU deals for decades, as have big business leaders. The poorer people in the UK have got nothing from it, indeed it has all been to our detriment. This reads like we need to get out of the EU because our politicians and business are dodgy ... less the Eu is bad, just we can’t be trusted in the EU ? You sound like a desperate remoaner.." ad hom. if I have miss represented your point please clarify. You talked about British politicians and big business skimming tips of deals. Which read to be as a British problem not EU. | |||
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" Unfortunately most of the political classes are for staying on board their EU gravy train. Otherwise it would have been a great plan..." I'm looking forward to the reaction of Mr Farage on March 30 when the European Parliament informs him there is no money to pay his pension because the UK left the EU without settling the divorce bill. "We can sue the UK to recover the money for your pension, Mr Farage," "Yes, yes, please do - I am entitled to my pension." | |||
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