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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? " So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances?" It's a simple case of this government taking so fucking long to decide what stance it's going to take in talks with the EU. Honestly, do you not read or watch or listen to any news sources to know this by now ? | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances?" There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept.... | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? It's a simple case of this government taking so fucking long to decide what stance it's going to take in talks with the EU. Honestly, do you not read or watch or listen to any news sources to know this by now ?" Why would you waste two years waiting to find out what stance the government is going to take? Surely you would expect the worst and moved as quickly as possible once the result of the referendum was known if it is going to cost your business so much money? | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept...." Jesús wept! How have they shown they are prepared to move? With threats? Are they the same ones they made if we didn’t join the Euro? Some people are soooo gullible | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept.... Jesús wept! How have they shown they are prepared to move? With threats? Are they the same ones they made if we didn’t join the Euro? Some people are soooo gullible " So, we've covered "Go on, Leave then" and now circled back to "No that's not true". Like fucking clockwork. A reasonable person might take these multiple warnings from multiple companies on specifically why a hard brexit would make it not worth their while to stay, as a sign that perhaps, this is not the correct course of action. But as you have amply demonstrated, we are not dealing with reasonable people. | |||
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"Apparently business wants nothing more than certainty? So just leave and you have it! " And moving would introduce uncertainty, hence why they'd rather the UK not continue down a stupid path. This isn't a difficult concept to grasp. | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept.... Jesús wept! How have they shown they are prepared to move? With threats? Are they the same ones they made if we didn’t join the Euro? Some people are soooo gullible So, we've covered "Go on, Leave then" and now circled back to "No that's not true". Like fucking clockwork. A reasonable person might take these multiple warnings from multiple companies on specifically why a hard brexit would make it not worth their while to stay, as a sign that perhaps, this is not the correct course of action. But as you have amply demonstrated, we are not dealing with reasonable people." A reasonable person might question why they are trying to ramp up the pressure now. And question the propaganda they see on their telescreens | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept.... Jesús wept! How have they shown they are prepared to move? With threats? Are they the same ones they made if we didn’t join the Euro? Some people are soooo gullible So, we've covered "Go on, Leave then" and now circled back to "No that's not true". Like fucking clockwork. A reasonable person might take these multiple warnings from multiple companies on specifically why a hard brexit would make it not worth their while to stay, as a sign that perhaps, this is not the correct course of action. But as you have amply demonstrated, we are not dealing with reasonable people. A reasonable person might question why they are trying to ramp up the pressure now. " Because as the brexit "negotiations" progress it looks like a hard brexit is more likely, either by design or incompetence. If it wasn't a likely outcome, there'd be no need to remind May et al. of why it's a stupid idea. | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? It's a simple case of this government taking so fucking long to decide what stance it's going to take in talks with the EU. Honestly, do you not read or watch or listen to any news sources to know this by now ? Why would you waste two years waiting to find out what stance the government is going to take? Surely you would expect the worst and moved as quickly as possible once the result of the referendum was known if it is going to cost your business so much money?" So what you are saying is that rather than wait to see what the government comes up with, each and every business in the entirety of the U.K. should have just upped sticks and left 2 years ago? Huh. Yeah, I can’t see any problem with that st all. -Matt | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept.... Jesús wept! How have they shown they are prepared to move? With threats? Are they the same ones they made if we didn’t join the Euro? Some people are soooo gullible So, we've covered "Go on, Leave then" and now circled back to "No that's not true". Like fucking clockwork. A reasonable person might take these multiple warnings from multiple companies on specifically why a hard brexit would make it not worth their while to stay, as a sign that perhaps, this is not the correct course of action. But as you have amply demonstrated, we are not dealing with reasonable people. A reasonable person might question why they are trying to ramp up the pressure now. And question the propaganda they see on their telescreens" Because we're a few months away from leaving and only a few weeks away from actually agreeing on what terms. Even I'm panicking and I don't stand to lose 1.2b a year if there's no deal or a hard brexit. Fair enough, maybe you're all cool, calm and collected about these scenarios because your preferred outcome would be a no deal/hard brexit. But for those of us (private individuals or companies) that are concerned about them and, as we see that the government is nowhere near agreeing amongst themselves, let alone negotiating with the EU, while we're literally around the corner of the cliff edge, when exactly would be the "right" time to start worrying and/or raise concerns? In addition, we have a government who's arguing about whether to order chicken tikka massala or beef burritos while they're in a chinese restaurant (and *knew* they were going to a chinese restaurant)! What are the chances that when the waiter comes and the order is given, he replies "you realise that's not available here, right?"? Which is pretty much what the EU will tell us, when we all smug and pleased with ourselves present them the fudge option on the 11th hour. And then, as usual, we'll blame *them* for leaving until the last minute to "be difficult", therefore it's "not our fault" that we're ending up with no deal  | |||
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"so today it is jaguar land rover who have "got it wrong" last week it was airbus and bmw who "got it wrong" the week before that ryanair and michael o'leary who "got it wrong".... and the joint letter from the japanese,canadian,indian and chinese chambers of commerse "got it wrong" so how many more companies do brexiteers have to say "got it wrong" before they start thinking....Hmmm, there might just be something to this!" They will play the “project fear” card, without irony, every time another company leaves the uk or every time an economist publishes any impact assessment or indeed when anyone looks at the prospects for the future of the economy. | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? It's a simple case of this government taking so fucking long to decide what stance it's going to take in talks with the EU. Honestly, do you not read or watch or listen to any news sources to know this by now ? Why would you waste two years waiting to find out what stance the government is going to take? Surely you would expect the worst and moved as quickly as possible once the result of the referendum was known if it is going to cost your business so much money? So what you are saying is that rather than wait to see what the government comes up with, each and every business in the entirety of the U.K. should have just upped sticks and left 2 years ago? Huh. Yeah, I can’t see any problem with that st all. -Matt" That’s why it’s all bollocks So tell me, where would they go? After investing billions in the U.K. already, would you really move to a politically unstable Europe with a precarious Euro and banking system? Really? Or would you take your business out of the EU altogether? Which kinda defeats the object really if you’re already outside the EU anyway | |||
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"I think that Owen Patterson might be eating his words for many, many years to come. Hapless Politician whose only commercial experience was to work in Daddy's leather business seemingly knows more about the motor industry than the Board of JLR. He said that, "JLR would be in a “wonderful position” if the UK left the single market, customs union and jurisdiction of the European courts." adding that it was “really important for business to get behind the prime minister”. His explanation was that components would be cheaper to source outside the EU if (for example) we had a free trade deal with Asian suppliers. Mo mention of course that external sourcing may invalidate origination rules and the consequential implications on non-tariff barriers - nor of the other catastrophic consequences of free trade with much poorer countries." He is going out of his mind now... "...if true, this would deny 100% of British economy the full benefits of Brexit to appease only 12% of UK GDP accounted for by exports to EU" He actually believes that the removal of all import tariffs will deliver utopia to the United Kingdom. It will be like someone celebrating their weight loss in the early stages of a cancer diagnosis. What a prick - the guy needs certifying or at least being held to account and challenged on these views. | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling " "I have not heard anything about it therefore it's not real". | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling "I have not heard anything about it therefore it's not real"." It never was | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling "I have not heard anything about it therefore it's not real". It never was " Well, I'm certain that you know better than anyone involved what's actually going on. No need to worry then! | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling "I have not heard anything about it therefore it's not real". It never was Well, I'm certain that you know better than anyone involved what's actually going on. No need to worry then!" I never do, I find that’s the way to live  | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling "I have not heard anything about it therefore it's not real". It never was Well, I'm certain that you know better than anyone involved what's actually going on. No need to worry then! I never do, I find that’s the way to live "It is certainly *a* way. | |||
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"As predicted... So why the fuck didn’t they leave 2 years ago? So no answer, as I thought. If the people who run these companies are so smart and Brexit is going to be such a disaster, what have they been waiting for? Why take any chances? There is a cost to relocating to another country. You shouldn't pay that cost unless you have to. As it stands, only a "hard brexit" will force these companies to have to relocate. So, staying put and lobbying for the least worse version of brexit and being prepared to leave if you have to is the best option available to any company. If you succeed you don't have to move, and being prepared to move means you have leverage in your lobbying (you've shown that you are serious about leaving) and unlike the UK itself, because you've prepared, you won't be caught flat footed if the country does something stupid. How is this not fucking blindingly obvious to you. It is just basic decision making. Jesus wept.... Jesús wept! How have they shown they are prepared to move? With threats? Are they the same ones they made if we didn’t join the Euro? Some people are soooo gullible So, we've covered "Go on, Leave then" and now circled back to "No that's not true". Like fucking clockwork. A reasonable person might take these multiple warnings from multiple companies on specifically why a hard brexit would make it not worth their while to stay, as a sign that perhaps, this is not the correct course of action. But as you have amply demonstrated, we are not dealing with reasonable people. A reasonable person might question why they are trying to ramp up the pressure now. And question the propaganda they see on their telescreens" Theyre ramping the pressure up because the fuckwits in charge still havent made their minds up what it is that they want. Maybe they think that the introduction of some reality into the debate will focus the minds of our leaders? (Some hope....the clueless gimps in the cabinet are utterly incapable of effective decision making) | |||
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"Thankfully JCB got it right in the EU debate and the decision to end their CBI membership. But then they only sell to 150 countries " So being in the EU hasnt stopped JCB thriving has it? It's a fatuous argument | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling " The banks are setting up offices/subsidiaries in Ireland and Luxembourg amongst other places.....do keep up. | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling The banks are setting up offices/subsidiaries in Ireland and Luxembourg amongst other places.....do keep up." And how many jobs are being lost in the UK | |||
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"Business seems to be as split about this issue as any other. That said, it is the PLCs with their shareholders to answer to who are really worried. By contrast, the individual entrepreneurs seem to be the ones cheerleading for Brexit. The difference - one lot is warning their shareholders, the other is expressing personal political opinion. " Even though their business could be damaged? | |||
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"Business seems to be as split about this issue as any other. That said, it is the PLCs with their shareholders to answer to who are really worried. By contrast, the individual entrepreneurs seem to be the ones cheerleading for Brexit. The difference - one lot is warning their shareholders, the other is expressing personal political opinion. " It is difficult to see why shareholders would be too bothered about Brexit. The stock market has put in a great performance for the past two years.If there were any genuine concerns share prices would be falling. A few adjustments to duty rates are hardly of much concern. Shareholders will be concerned with their dividend income and capital growth. Brexit would be of little interest to them. | |||
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"Business seems to be as split about this issue as any other. That said, it is the PLCs with their shareholders to answer to who are really worried. By contrast, the individual entrepreneurs seem to be the ones cheerleading for Brexit. The difference - one lot is warning their shareholders, the other is expressing personal political opinion. It is difficult to see why shareholders would be too bothered about Brexit. The stock market has put in a great performance for the past two years.If there were any genuine concerns share prices would be falling. A few adjustments to duty rates are hardly of much concern. Shareholders will be concerned with their dividend income and capital growth. Brexit would be of little interest to them." Then why are companies WARNING their shareholders? | |||
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"Business seems to be as split about this issue as any other. That said, it is the PLCs with their shareholders to answer to who are really worried. By contrast, the individual entrepreneurs seem to be the ones cheerleading for Brexit. The difference - one lot is warning their shareholders, the other is expressing personal political opinion. It is difficult to see why shareholders would be too bothered about Brexit. The stock market has put in a great performance for the past two years.If there were any genuine concerns share prices would be falling. A few adjustments to duty rates are hardly of much concern. Shareholders will be concerned with their dividend income and capital growth. Brexit would be of little interest to them." So you are suggesting that Companies should not adhere to their legal and fiduciary responsibilities and not issue risk warnings to their shareholders? | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling " I think the scaremongering doom merchants in the remain camp decided to drop that one a few months ago when one of the top bankers in Germany said that London would remain the financial centre of Europe after Brexit. He also admitted that French, German and Irish banks had been trying to lure away bankers from London to work in their countries but had no joy and the bankers wanted to stay in London.  | |||
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"P.S. what has happened to all the moaning and scaremongering about banks leaving lately? Oh that is so last season darling The banks are setting up offices/subsidiaries in Ireland and Luxembourg amongst other places.....do keep up. And how many jobs are being lost in the UK" The question you should be asking is how much tax take is the Uk going to lose | |||
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"Business seems to be as split about this issue as any other. That said, it is the PLCs with their shareholders to answer to who are really worried. By contrast, the individual entrepreneurs seem to be the ones cheerleading for Brexit. The difference - one lot is warning their shareholders, the other is expressing personal political opinion. It is difficult to see why shareholders would be too bothered about Brexit. The stock market has put in a great performance for the past two years.If there were any genuine concerns share prices would be falling. A few adjustments to duty rates are hardly of much concern. Shareholders will be concerned with their dividend income and capital growth. Brexit would be of little interest to them." I dont think youve grasped the responsibilities that plcs have to their shareholders. If Brexit is going to affect profits they have to warn their sharehlders | |||
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"I personally don't think there will be a deal, no transition, all done on 29/3/19. Then we will see who was right and who was wrong! Probably a big court case on breach of contract. Even Trump says a trade deal with our special relationship will take 2 yrs. Of course we trade on WTO rules - which Trump is undermining. All happening at the wrong time for the UK - absolute calamity world wide. 1930's all over again - and who caused that? The good old U.S. as they did the banking crisis. Interesting times ahead!" I've seen some reports that the EU may be about to throw in the towel and agree to lower tariffs on American products going into the EU, so it looks like Trump playing hard ball with the EU may have just paid off. Trump said he would win a trade war and looks like he may be proved right. When Trump threatened higher tariffs on EU made cars going into the USA then those EU car companies took a hit on stock markets, the EU is increasingly looking like a dog with no bark or a jellyfish (no backbone). | |||
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"But what does it matter if they admit they are wrong or not? Why’s it such a big deal on this board to prove them wrong? It’s not going to change anything. For the record Brexit has without a doubt fucked me and its fucked my family and my people over. I just don’t understand this mindset? "The more I read the answers/replies on the various threads, the more I agree with you. In fact, I think that the mindset is such that, after the completion of the process, if things don't turn out as expected/hoped for with the "new, many and amazing trade deals", in all likelihood the remainers and/or EU will be blamed for it somehow, because, of course, nothing in support of brexit could have ever been wrong. "Fault always lies in the same place: with him weak enough to lay blame" - S.King | |||
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"Because a brexiters want to destroy the country, they dont like it when everyone get along." Oh because the rest of Europe a really getting along just great at the moment aren't they? Fact is the EU is in crisis and it's not just because of Brexit. You have Eurosceptic governments elected in Italy, Hungary, Poland, Slovenia and Austria, and now Merkel's fragile coalition is teetering on the brink of collapse in Germany. Continue to bury your head in the sand if you like but it's plain to see the writing is on the wall for the EU, it's finished! The UK just took the first available life boat out. | |||
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"it's plain to see the writing is on the wall for the EU, it's finished!" You fucking wish. | |||
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"I've seen some reports that the EU may be about to throw in the towel and agree to lower tariffs on American products going into the EU, so it looks like Trump playing hard ball with the EU may have just paid off. " That you've "seen some reports" doesn't make it true, at all. Given that i can't find anything on any reputable news site that matches this, I'm going to put it in the same category as your claims the EU is finished. Bullshit. | |||
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"Because a brexiters want to destroy the country, they dont like it when everyone get along. Oh because the rest of Europe a really getting along just great at the moment aren't they? Fact is the EU is in crisis and it's not just because of Brexit. You have Eurosceptic governments elected in Italy, Hungary, Poland, Slovenia and Austria, and now Merkel's fragile coalition is teetering on the brink of collapse in Germany. Continue to bury your head in the sand if you like but it's plain to see the writing is on the wall for the EU, it's finished! The UK just took the first available life boat out. "The EU's finished? The basis for this assertion is what exactly? Wishful thinking i suspect. Didnt you tell us the Dutch and the French would elect anti EU leaders? That worked out well didnt it? | |||
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"I personally don't think there will be a deal, no transition, all done on 29/3/19. Then we will see who was right and who was wrong! Probably a big court case on breach of contract. Even Trump says a trade deal with our special relationship will take 2 yrs. Of course we trade on WTO rules - which Trump is undermining. All happening at the wrong time for the UK - absolute calamity world wide. 1930's all over again - and who caused that? The good old U.S. as they did the banking crisis. Interesting times ahead! I've seen some reports that the EU may be about to throw in the towel and agree to lower tariffs on American products going into the EU, so it looks like Trump playing hard ball with the EU may have just paid off. Trump said he would win a trade war and looks like he may be proved right. When Trump threatened higher tariffs on EU made cars going into the USA then those EU car companies took a hit on stock markets, the EU is increasingly looking like a dog with no bark or a jellyfish (no backbone). " Source? Alternative facts to quote a phrase. So the EU is weak - you think negotiations are going well then? If the EU is weak what does that make the UK stance? We will see as China ramps up after today's tariffs are implemented. Trumps childlike philosophy will bite him on the bum! | |||
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"Because a brexiters want to destroy the country, they dont like it when everyone get along. Oh because the rest of Europe a really getting along just great at the moment aren't they? Fact is the EU is in crisis and it's not just because of Brexit. You have Eurosceptic governments elected in Italy, Hungary, Poland, Slovenia and Austria, and now Merkel's fragile coalition is teetering on the brink of collapse in Germany. Continue to bury your head in the sand if you like but it's plain to see the writing is on the wall for the EU, it's finished! The UK just took the first available life boat out. "If Italy are anti-EU, then why are they begging the EU to solve the migrant issue? If they were anti EU then they would solve it unilaterally. | |||
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"I personally don't think there will be a deal, no transition, all done on 29/3/19. Then we will see who was right and who was wrong! Probably a big court case on breach of contract. Even Trump says a trade deal with our special relationship will take 2 yrs. Of course we trade on WTO rules - which Trump is undermining. All happening at the wrong time for the UK - absolute calamity world wide. 1930's all over again - and who caused that? The good old U.S. as they did the banking crisis. Interesting times ahead! I've seen some reports that the EU may be about to throw in the towel and agree to lower tariffs on American products going into the EU, so it looks like Trump playing hard ball with the EU may have just paid off. Trump said he would win a trade war and looks like he may be proved right. When Trump threatened higher tariffs on EU made cars going into the USA then those EU car companies took a hit on stock markets, the EU is increasingly looking like a dog with no bark or a jellyfish (no backbone). " Er..... nope! What is being discussed is a potential zero tariff on cars ( the us put a 2.5% tariff on cars , where the Eu put a 10% on) in exchange for a zero tariff on trucks ( the Eu put on a 10% tariff on trucks, where the USA put on a 25% tariff) Irony being it was being discussed BEFORE trump decided to try and blow everything up... so the Eu took the offer off the table... And after seeing what has happened to Harley Davidson the us went back to try and make the deal happen But hey.... spin away centy  | |||
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